What is Reddit's opinion of The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited (Cambridge Middle East Studies, Series Number 18)?

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Don’t know why you are arguing about this. Several books have been written about this, including the linked source by Israel’s most respected relatively objective historian, Benny Morris.

Morris’ book generally describes various reasons for fleeing. In the appendix, there is a list of over 700 villages and cities from which Arabs fled and the reasons listed in a code from among five reasons for leaving.

One thing not remarked on usually, but important, is the known fight of most effendis (rich, powerful Arabs) at the beginning of the civil war in December 1947 who had family or residences in other Arab cities like Cairo or Beirut. I’ve got to think that sent a very conspicuous, demoralizing message to the masses of poor fellahin.

The one source that is generally agreed to be excellent is: The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem by Benny Morris. Its been updated a bit: https://www.amazon.com/Palestinian-Refugee-Problem-Revisited-Cambridge/dp/0521009677

Pretty much what happened and when depends on which town of village. Its a complex detailed story.

Catastrophic Thinking: Did Ben-Gurion Try to Rewrite History? - The file in the state archives contains clear evidence that the researchers at the time did not paint the full picture of Israel's role in creating the Palestinian refugee problem.

Benny Morris' The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. In the 80s, Israel and the UK opened up their archives. Its startling revelations about how and why 700,000 Palestinians left their homes and became refugees during the Arab-Israeli war in 1948 undermined traditional interpretations as to whether they left voluntarily or were expelled as part of a systematic plan.

Two sources that seem to be accepted as accurate by Israelis, Palestinians and Western Liberal Zionists, non-Zionists, most non-Palestinian Arabs...:

• Gush Shalom's Truth against Truth. This is a pamphlet written by liberal Palestinians and very Liberal Zionists outlining what happened. That is mainly trying to tie the Jewish and Palestinian narratives together by nothing that most of the core differences arise out of a difference in perspective and focus. There is no need to deny the other party's point of view.

• Benny Morris Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. Morris himself is a fairly rightwing Zionist. But he is brutally accurate about the events. Palestinians do feel comfortable using him on matters of what happened when.

As far as BDSers they pride themselves on concepts like, "always side with the weaker party". That sort of viewpoint requires them to make arguments that are inconsistent, invalid or unsound frequently when the weaker party is at fault. They appear either mostly or entirely disinterested in logic, correctness of facts or completeness one has to conclude they simply lack placing any value on truth. Lacking the intellectual integrity (either generally or specifically with respect to Jews) that makes the concept of truth possible I don't know of anything that would be generally acceptable that they would agree with.

But those two sources work for the rest.

Two books by Benny Morris:

• 1948: A History of the First Arab-Israeli War, excellent overview of the events leading up to and following from the UN Partition Plan.
• The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, Revisited, a deeper dive into the Palestinian refugees (causes, outcomes, etc).

Other books:

• Six Days of War, a phenomenally well researched insight into the 1967 war from a historian that speaks Hebrew, English and Arabic and was able to draw on an immense amount of primary sources.
• My Promised Land, a much more personal book, incredibly insightful and emotionally intelligent.

Catastrophic Thinking: Did Ben-Gurion Try to Rewrite History? - The file in the state archives contains clear evidence that the researchers at the time did not paint the full picture of Israel's role in creating the Palestinian refugee problem.

Benny Morris' The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. In the 80s, Israel and the UK opened up their archives. Its startling revelations about how and why 700,000 Palestinians left their homes and became refugees during the Arab-Israeli war in 1948 undermined traditional interpretations as to whether they left voluntarily or were expelled as part of a systematic plan.

If you want to talk about Haifa while citing Benny Morris, then you better include the part of his book where the Jewish mayor of Haifa begged the Arabs to stay. On top of that, you better recall that, in the same book, Benny Morris notes that the Arabs departed because to stay would mean they acquiesced to Jewish governance, which meant they would be treated as traitors by the soon-to-invade Arab armies.

Do you even read books, or just cherry-pick convenient stuff from self-hating rags like 972Magazine?

> Israel is the artificial creation, not Palestine which existed before Israel.

I'm so glad you mentioned this, because it's so easy prove that you have it backwards.

I guess you've never heard of Abraham, father of Ishmael, ancestor of Mohammed. He's buried in Hebron (in Israel), along with his wife Sarah, his other son Isaac, and his grandson Jacob. Their descendants built the Kingdom of Israel, which was eventually conquered by the Roman empire) <-- this page contains the correct link; Reddit doesn't like URLs with parentheses. Fed up with repeated attempts to revolt, the Romans exiled the Jews and renamed the region after the Philistines (whom the Jews defeated during earlier wars).

From Wiki: > after Bar Kokhba's revolt (132–135 CE), the Roman Emperor Hadrian changed the name of the province to Syria Palaestina and Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, which certain scholars conclude was done in an attempt to remove the relationship of the Jewish people to the region.[1][2]

So there you go: the very name "Palestine" is little more than a Roman machination to discredit any Jewish heritage in the land of Israel.... even though the graves of pretty much every important biblical figure is located there. If cemeteries aren't good enough for you, then I'll direct your attention to the retaining below the al-Aksa Mosque, which Herod built in order to make the Second Temple larger. Below this site, in the Shiloah neighborhood (Silwan, in Arabic) is the site where archaeologists are still uncovering artifacts from King David and King Solomon's capital city.

And now, after just under 2000 years, the Jews are back.

I don't suppose there's any famous Arab archaeological sites in Israel that you'd like to share?

> There was never a country called Florida either -- that doesn't give you the right to take it over.

Go tell the Spanish and the British.

Well according to Israeli historians, the Haganah and Irgun did quite a bit of ethnic cleaning, not to mention rape and massacre. Worth mentioning that a quarter of Palestinian refugees were quite LITERALLY pushed into the sea.