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Let's not forgot this dude wrote a book called "The Coming Collapse of China" and predicted China would collapse in 2 years.
That book was published in 2001.
>Now that they are a big dog, they are going to grow more slowly.
I have been hearing this for a while. But they continue to beat projections. "The coming collapse of China" was published in 2001.
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
The maps of balkanized China is copium and will never happen. The book "The Coming Collapse Of China" was first published in 2001.
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
But the decades ahead in the future is impossible to tell how the world will look like. This is pure speculation, but personally I believe the US will stay as the most powerful country as China will inevitably go through economic Japanification and looking at other social and environmental challenges makes me believe that the US is here to stay. But on the other hand claiming that China is collapsing and will lose it's status and power on the world stage is unfaithful. China is likely only to get more powerful relatively at least into the foreseeable future.
It's hard for both Americans and Chinese people to look at this from an objective neutral point of view.
This famous book about China incoming collapse is from 2001, 20 f*cking years ago, and China economy has only be getting stronger and stronger since that with no sign of slowing, not even the pandemic really affected them thanks to their efficent response.
>As China’s abuses and status as a modern Nazi regime become more well known by the world it will be economically isolated and suffer as a result.
How adorably naive. Do you have an estimated date when China's going to suffer isolation? Just so we can revisit this topic when this totally happens.
As of now, China has more countries supporting its programs than condemn. Not a single Muslim country supports your wild accusations. Not one. Western nations are pouring money into China. Why are your elites investing in the Chinese stock market or Chinese bonds? Can't they read Reddit to understand geopolitics from simpletons like yourself?
I just checked the GDP forecast for this year from the IMF and World Bank, things are looking pretty for China. You? Not so much.
>Their success ruined by their own hateful government.
Ironic. Your government is the one spreading atrocity propaganda while actually committing atrocities against Muslims.
>World order is changing but China will be nowhere near the top.
This is good. We want you to stay asleep. Might I recommend this book from 2001 about the collapse of China?
>Enjoy irrelevance you brainwashed goon.
I'm not patient enough to wait centuries for this "irrelevance" to happen. Tell me when we're going to get isolated so I can prepare bro.
> far before 2011
The most infamous example of this genre!
> weaker Yuan and a push to even higher exports
Just to defend the article I put up, the obvious objections are: a) what's to stop everyone devaluing in turn? b) where is the demand for all these exports going to come from? c) How will the ordinary Chinese feel about the reduction in living standards due to devaluation? d) More broadly, will this provoke increased political reactions in countries being exported to?
Lol it's not even the oldest book on the topic, here is a classic from 2001: https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China#Development
^^ Here you go, even the economists are saying all sorts of self contradictory things. Half think the book is cooked in one direction, others think they're cooked in the other direction.
But one thing is obvious, there are a large segment of reddit that wanted China to fail and puts that wish in their assessment of objective things. That's how you end up with books like Coming Collapse of China ^published ^2001
You should check out this bestseller. According to the author China will collapse in 2011.
Did you really just link a youtube video as a rebuttal to a Harvard study and Edelman research? Are you 12 years old or something? I also see you completely ignored the research findings that I quoted via the AmericanAffairsJournal. Can't have these facts get in the way of your beliefs/feelings, can we? This "poll" took over a decade to finish, I think it's fair to call it a study. Harvard itself calls it a study too. I'll let them know deltabay the salty redditor disagrees ;)
Hey Harvard, forget your years-long research and come take a look at this youtube video! What do you mean youtube isn't a good source? Well I have this random unknown blogger too!
Cute strawman but it's not 136% approval, but 93.1%, and that percentage is lower for local governments (81.7% for provincial, 73.9% for county, and 70.2% for township). I see you refuse to even read the studies lmao. I wonder if you've ever read a study in your life. I mean the sources you're linking me isn't giving me much faith.
If you consider how much China has developed over the last 3 decades, it makes complete sense that there's overwhelming support for their government. They went from pretty much irrelevant backwater representing just 1.28% of global GDP in 1990, to being in the center of global trade today and projected to overtake the largest economy within 15 years. Russia has been stagnant compared to China, they're not even remotely comparable. The fact that you used Russia as an argument against China tells me you know very little about China.
It's obvious you'd rather put your head in the sand and deny reality, since you're linking me some blogger or youtuber that confirms your beliefs. Looking at this youtube channel, it's also fairly obvious from his nonstop China bad content that he makes money off people like you, who only want to see China bad content. The moment someone shows you an actual good source (unlike youtube), you disregard it because it goes against your beliefs. This is the definition of cognitive dissonance. Your feelings are clearly more important than reality.
I think I'm done here. I'll stick to the research by respected institutions, you can stick to your bloggers and youtubers. I think you know full well there's a difference in quality here. Have fun living in your fictional world where Chinese people can't wait to revolt. Meanwhile in the real world, it's one of the most pro-government and nationalistic countries in the world. Muted. This is a very one sided discussion and not worth my time anymore.
Book recommendation to make you feel better (just ignore the dates): https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
>No military bases around the world.
This is important but they are attempting to quickly change this. They already opened a base in Djibouti and are attempting to do the same across the Indo-Pacific.
>Doesn’t even manufacture double what America does despite having over four times the population.
This is wrong. China is far ahead the US in manufacturing output. Do you mean GDP instead?
https://globalupside.com/top-10-manufacturing-countries-in-the-world/
Ultimately, In international relations is driven by economic incentives and military force to achieve their goals. China in the last two decades had a meteoric rise in both, whether China will become great power #1 and replace the US is to be seen.
The coming collapse of China was first published in 2001. But instead China just got stronger and beat western economic growth rates for several years.
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
a little dated, but may still be of insight:
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Collapse-China-Gordon-Chang/dp/0812977564
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The Coming Collapse of China Paperback – July 31, 2001
But what about Facebook and Internet?
Look what happened to Soviet Russia which is was also authoritarian communist like China. Also, most of China's GDP is due to the construction of giant ghost cities in which no people live.
People should read this book: The Coming Collapse of China
Yet another highly insightful piece of analysis exposing China’s weakness as a global player.
Whenever I read articles like this I’m reminded of the words of renowned China expert Gordon G. Chang, in the introduction to his book The Coming Collapse of China:
‘The end of the modern Chinese state is near. The People's Republic has five years, perhaps ten, before it falls. This book tells why.’*
I mean sure, he wrote those words two decades ago, but still…
*To be fair to Chang, he published the following correction in Foreign Policy a decade later: ‘Not long ago, everything was going well for the mandarins in Beijing. Now, nothing is. So, yes, my prediction was wrong. Instead of 2011, the mighty Communist Party of China will fall in 2012. Bet on it.’
I agree. And discussing potential dangers could make a great fortune.
China will collapse any day now.
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