{"product":{"product_id":"0195176561","title":"The Myth of Ownership: Taxes and Justice","price":"37.39","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41s42oDEAuL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0195176561"},"comments":[{"body":"Estuve buscando y encontré este libro: [The myth of ownership](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Liam-B-Murphy/dp/0195176561), por los filósofos Liam Murphy y Thomas Nagel. Este último es un filósofo súper importante, así que tal vez sea bueno. Las reseñas se ven bien, aunque hay opiniones polarizadas (lo que no necesariamente es malo).\r\n\r\nLa verdad parece piola para echarle un ojo.","subreddit_name":"VivimosEnUnaSociedad","author":"Bl4nkface"},{"body":"Yeah the argument that taxation is theft is well known but certainly not something that all philosophers by any means would agree with.\r\n\r\nI'm sure there's a broad literature on this topic but a book I read as an undergrad (https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Ownership-Taxes-Justice/dp/0195176561) argues, as I recall, that gross pay should be considered a bookkeeping entry. That is, the the excess of your gross income over your net income was never genuinely yours and so it has not been taken from you when it's taxed.","subreddit_name":"askphilosophy","author":"dmm9999"},{"body":"\u0026gt;\u0026gt; If society regarded them as valuable, they would use their own money to give them what they deserved. But they're not, so they don't.\r\n\r\nIt really boggles my mind how you can struggle so hard to grasp the moral worth argument like it's really interesting to me.\r\n\r\nNothing you're saying is relevant to that argument, the entire point of the argument is that the market isn't moral.\r\n\r\nSociety values curing cancer more than someone being a banker, the amoral market sets the values, there isn't money in cancer research in the short term.\r\n\r\nYou're making really intellectually lazy arguments because like the other you're just not grasping the moral worth argument.\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Ownership-Taxes-Justice/dp/0195176561\r\n\r\nHere's a good book, and it makes an argument like mine.\r\n\r\nThe only way for you to be morally entitled to your pre-tax income is if you deserve it morally, the market is amoral and doesn't give value based on morality.\r\n\r\nIt's just the way the market is structured, and making the \"morals are subjective\" argument defeats your argument as well. \r\n\r\nIf morals are subjective then the government has no obligation to respect your morals, meaning it still isn't theft.","subreddit_name":"KotakuInAction","author":"asiltopbr"},{"body":"[The Myth of Ownership by Murphy and Nagel](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Myth-Ownership-Taxes-Justice/dp/0195176561).","subreddit_name":"askphilosophy","author":"Lord_Treasurer"}]}