>And how can you express "justice" without the value judgment that supports it?
Because the principle is distinguishable from the value. See my example from before of someone who thinks something is unjust but doesn't care.
>No, you are a moral relativist who is deluded and thinks that his morals are "objective".
No, people's positions describe what they think is true. That's a contradiction in terms.
>The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement wants all humanity to die.
Based on something like a utilitarian idea that the most moral world would be one where there is as little suffering as possible and that human beings pose a disproportionate threat to the well-being of their world.
>The Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide as a delusional means to teleport to a spaceship.
That isn't even a moral dimension of their beliefs.
>If there were "essential principles", as you claim, then we would all follow the same religion.
You don't think that human beings are capable of disagreeing about things that are objectively true?
>I know what collectivism is, and you're trying to change the subject to avoid answering the question. I will ask again: If someone valued male chauvinism and the power principle over individualism, do you see how they can come to the conclusion that rape is a moral good?
No, they don't consider rape to be a good end in itself, but a justified means to the end of an individual having satisfaction, etc. Nobody is for rape just for the sake of rape occurring.
>My philosophy is NIOF.
Someone disagrees with your moral opinion that they shouldn't take possession of your belongings for themselves. You wouldn't oppose them by using force? I can say that it is intrinsically wrong for them to do so, but you don't have that ability and can only resort to violence of threat of violence to enforce your will because under your view all moral opinions are capricious and arbitrary and there is no way to reason someone out of them.
>I agree that it's a non-sequitur.
Your argument against the beliefs is a non-sequitur. That doesn't by itself imply that the beliefs are nonsensical in any way. I would suggest that you read a bit more about soteriology and how the doctrine of salvation in Christian theology is purported to work (there are multiple theories such as Christus Victor) which reason out how Christ's willing death can be an atoning act for human beings.