I highly recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
It might help to understand how a person can “fake” human emotions when deep inside they lack empathy etc..
It’s creepy to encounter people who operate like this.. it’s like the wolf in sheeps clothing.
This is how:
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
As a society, we don't discuss it - the fact that around 20% of the people around us are sociopaths of one form or another - because honestly, it would lead to some very uncomfortable truths that we can't adult about.
Instead, we say things like "oh, he's just a bit eccentric" or "she likes the drama" - instead of doing what we should be doing about the problem, which is honestly discussing it and figuring out how to fix it, or at least make it less of a societal issue.
Sociopaths are gifted at mimicking emotions, including love. But it’s not love they feel.
Love requires empathy and reciprocity. Sociopaths are - by their nature - incapable of either.
Check out the book The Sociopath Next Door.
It’s a page-turner, and the author is highly credentialed. She includes case studies and examples that are so chilling. And stats that blew my mind.
Example: 4 in 100 people in the US have Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie sociopaths).
You are starting your research with a (very specific) conclusion and looking for papers that justify it. You need to do it the other way around, or make a falsifiable hypothesis (formulate criteria that would reject the conclusion you are trying to prove).
“Narcissism” is a really charged term that someone in social sciences (the various studies of society) might not be the most equipped to address. In any case, psychopathology and personality are not as black and white as you might imagine. It is difficult to isolate, control and study parenting styles or techniques (or a specific kind of child abuse) to empirically measure the outcome on a child. Then is that outcome retained in adulthood necessarily?
By the By: Narcissism and antisocial characteristics are present in virtually everyone. Narcissism as a pathology is defined by freud as one thing, as a personality disorder with specific criteria in the DSM and ICD-10, and in Greek mythology as an absurd cause of death.
Suppose instead you start reading books about this instead of studies… Many of those who write books on topics like pathological narcissism, psychopathology and child abuse will have done a much broader literature review than you might be capable of right now, given your present level of familiarity with the topic.
I like this one.
PS - we all go through a phase when we hate our parents, and sometimes we come up with very academic ways to. Remember that science is about finding the truth through disinterested observation of evidence, not for finding ways to justify your feelings.
Cool, I’ll check it out! The Sociopath Next Door is good, too.
There are a lot of us armchair psychologists on this sub. I’m fascinated by the number of HWs who show signs of NPD and ASPD. I guess it makes sense, their personality disorders make for good TV.
Nothing more boring than a healthy, self-aware, self-regulated human with good boundaries haha .
I just ran across this. It strikes a chord with me because I was in a situation where I was having similar conflict. I eventually split from that guy and made it very clear to stay out of all parts of my life. I was still struggling with the ordeal for some time afterwards because it was so baffling on so many levels. I happened to run across this book, and after reading it I felt so much better; I felt like it lent some explanation to things , which is something I always crave. I hope you’re doing better. If you can’t afford the book, check with your local library.
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Totally agree! I guess I’m an “armchair psychologist” sometimes with HWs. I’m not a clinician, but I don’t fling around diagnoses casually. I’ve spent years reading as much as I can on the ASPD cluster.
Have you read The Sociopath Next Door? Also very enlightening, from a clinical psychologist.
sociopaths are known to be in the low single digits percent wise, according to what I have read. I would reccomend this book https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/ref=nodl_
These are people that have no conscience at all. I believe you are mistaking people who may not see harm caused by what they support for people that don't care about causing harm to others at all when you are labeling common republican voters as sociopaths.
This book was recommended to me in another subreddit, and it explains SO much about my ex and several co-workers I've had.
1 in 24 people in the US are sociopaths. It can be confused with narcissistic personality disorder because they are so similar.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828
"The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout PhD
This is actually a good psychology issue. When presented with a sociopath people impress upon them expectations of moral shame, etc. that aren't possible for them. Some people are just learning to be perceptive of it. Good reading on this phenomenon is [1]
[1] The Sociopath Next Door https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VX4sDb0P265Z8
Also, read this book. This was a total game changer for me and my kids, as I gifted them when they were of age.. mid teens. It helped me endure other people that are extremely difficult and it's interesting as hell with some of the stories in it. I think this is what made me say "HOLY FUCK, THERE IS A NAME FOR THIS BEHAVIOR!!!"
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
This book might shed further light on him, but you are ultimately the only one who could make a determination from it.
Sounds like the younger sister is involved with a sociopath, if you want to be subtle, give her The Sociopath Next Door and suggest it as an interesting read; if she is smart she will connect the dots. The author helps the reader identify sociopathic charactistics and how to deal with people you might suspect are high on the sociopathic scale. I would recommend it to you even if you didn't share it with her.
Also this.
This subject can't be neatly summed up in a page or passage.
Study the habits of these creatures, and you'll learn to spot them a mile away (in the future).
Get this book and read it. It's probably available at your local library.
There's one trait to look for in spotting sociopaths. They will ALWAYS play the victim. As an example, a sociopathic female will complain endlessly about her narcissistic husband, pretending all the while to be a victim of said husband. At no point will she ever admit her victimhood is of her own choosing. She could leave her husband at any point in time, but she would rather continue to exploit the clueless for her own purposes, while playing the victim for all eternity. What this means is, once the perpetual victimhood of a sociopath is spotted, they will appear exceedingly stupid to you, because it is stupid to play the victim when the problem is easily solved by leaving the relationship.
In particular, sociopaths will play the victim after screwing you over. If anyone plays the victim immediately after harming you, it is guaranteed you are dealing with a sociopath.
The response after spotting one is up to you. Setting boundaries is one way to deal with them. For me, bitch-slapping them out of my life is the preferred method, because I have zero interest infecting my life with those who have no empathy.
The right people... uh huh. People are people. You can't possible know if each and every one of your associates and family are trustworthy. The more confident you are in knowing they are all on the up and up, the more clueless you probably are.
I got interested in this when I figured out one day that a trusted employee (a manager) was not only systematically stealing money but that she had created a detailed web of lies about all of her employees that she was telling the other employees. She did the same with management. She was exceptional at getting me to believe lies that once considered were obviously not true. I have to say I was impressed by what she accomplished.
I recommend this book which says 4% of all people are sociopaths. I found it fascinating. I then sat with my wife and we made up a list of 20 people that fit the profile. I have since distanced myself from some of them I still see.
Some of them scare me. They will do anything. My daughter's best friend's parents once told us a neighbor had warned them not to let their children play at my house. It wasn't safe. How many people had she told that to that believed it?
I too had a boss who is a sociopath. I did not realize it until years later. When I got promoted to VP as his peer I watched him take credit for my work, in front of me. At his wife's birthday party I was the asked to be the MC and I told him some of my jokes. He stood up first and told them. We shared sports tickets with him and his wife. She just died of cancer. Her funeral is in two days. I do not expect to ever see him after that. Good on you for getting away.
Sure it's depressing, but some people are intentionally evil, willing to actively lie to get what they want. They're called sociopaths, and they make up 2-4% of the population. They are defined by a strong personal sense of superiority, a reckless disregard for "little people's rules", a ruthless willingness to screw anyone for personal gain, and a psychotic confidence that they'll be able to lie their way out of any jam. Sound familiar?
You actually could not be more wrong about sociopaths. Their greatest control mechanism is sympathy. Garnering this emotion from people is actually key to the way that sociopaths control people. Once we feel sympathy for someone, our guard is down. If you're interested to learn more about sociopaths- and we all should considering their prevalence- the best book on the subject that I've read is The Sociopath Next-door. When this author asked a diagnosed sociopath what he wanted more than anything, his answer was people's pity. We do really need to expand our range of sociopathic understanding past murders but the best example I can easily give you is Ted Bundy. He faked having a broken arm in order to gain a woman's sympathy and help and then killed her. Now, imagine this in all sorts of contexts and it becomes very frightening. A great movie on Netflix called The Woman Who Wasn't There will display this perfectly. http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Have you read The Sociopath Next Door? I have not, but knew someone who had and they talked about it quite a bit. I had it on my list of things to read and was wondering your thoughts.
>...one day I am going to get raped/mugged/killed because of it.
Most people won't hurt you in this way, though you might suffer significantly from an ongoing minor use by others. If you feel you have a propensity to be a victim (which is possible, bad people look for easy prey, and you sound like it) you might brush up on how many psychopaths are (possibly) out there and what they might look like. I thought Psychopath Next Door was pretty good read on that.
As far as the minor use, if you are not comfortable with the your intuitive feel for who decent people are (from your description sounds like you should not be), I would suggest
My $0.02 from personal experience. Prior to going into psychology, my previous line of work brought me to work with quite a few narcissists and a couple psychopaths. So the following is based on years of real world experience + my academic understanding of the topic. To answer your question, I'll compare some subtle differences in behavior.
Psychopaths: Their focus is "outward target focused" and getting what they want at all cost, even to the detriment of looking good even initially. Their behavior is more predatory, even from the very first impression. The name of the game is to find out as much information about you as possible to quickly assess if you're a good target and if so what your vulnerabilities are so they can manipulate you and proceed with their goals. They seek out a vulnerable target who is emotionally "weak" or lacking something in their life, do "recon" and get as much information as possible to find their angle, use flattery and slights to keep their target off-balance so they can control them and get what they want. In their initial assessment of you if they see that you're not giving them the information they need or that you're onto their game, you'll be too difficult and they will move on to an easier target. They won't waste their time.
What that looks like in real life:
First impressions with a psychopath: you feel a "bit off." You can't put your finger on why, but you feel a little weird and uncomfortable: it could be an initial awkward silence in them waiting for you to reveal things about yourself (recon), it could be the one-sided self-disclosure (them asking lot of questions about your life without them reciprocating on things like circle of friends, agreeableness, emotional state, your likes and dislikes), it could be the overt flattery playing to your ego and them trying too hard to be just like you, it may even be the very initial awkard non-verbal behavior (eye-contact / fake smile) as they are searching for visual cues on how to physically act / stand /or mimic your behavior to earn your trust. --> All this might make you feel like you can't trust them.
To add to this, though, quickly after, you'll observe them saying an odd phrase here or there that doesn't add up, a compliment followed by a slight directed at you or at someone else ( "Did they really said that??")... all meant to keep their target off balance and under their control. This inconsistent, flattery / insult behavior makes you feel uncomfortable and questioning yourself and also if they're a "good person." Since their main goal is not to look good but to manipulate their target, they don't care as much if they come across as likable if they can manipulate the power dynamic back into their favor.
TLDR: They don't care as much how they're being perceived, likeable or not, just as long as they get what they want, so appearing charming isn't a top goal, just part of the process.
Narcissists: Narcissists, in contrast, have a "self-centered focus," first and foremost, and manipulate people to get what they want second to that. They manipulate people by making themselves look good, keeping the focus on their successes, and by appealing to your sense of wanting to be in with the "cool kids." "I'm going to show you how awesome I am, and you're going to want to be just like me and work for / be friends with me and do what I say because I'm so cool." They're not going to manipulate you because they've studied you and assessed your weaknesses and are preying on your vulnerabilities, like the psychopath (=more calculated behavior). That would be taking away from the focus on them. They're going to manipulate you through showing you how great they are. And because narcissists are focused on themselves, they expect you will, too, (and you most likely will to avoid confrontation, initially) so this keeps them happy and... charming... longer. Narcissists will only lash out or exhibit ugly behavior if their ego is threatened, if the focus isn't on them, if they don't get their way, or if you get in their way.
What this looks like in real life, and why they might appear more charming longer: "Me, me, me!": Narcissists biggest focus is to look good and to keep the focus on them. As such, they know creating a good first likable impression is important so they will focus on dressing well, being well groomed, smiling, appearing pleasant, acting charming, inflating their accomplishments and their connections, and building a fabulous picture of who they are. This all makes them look charming and appeals to your sense of wanting to be in with the top dogs. Unlike psychopaths, they will talk a lot about themselves, both personally and professionally, and won't ask you hardly anything about you unless it relates to their goals. Unlike psychopaths, their focus is not trying to get information on you and figure out their angle. Their focus is on maintaining the appearance of their huge persona. To cultivate a larger than life image, they must form and maintain an entourage of beautiful and powerful people, and this requires that they act charming as much as possible.
Initially what might make you feel uncomfortable is how much they talk about themselves or how little they ask about you, and this throws your spidey sense off guard (makes you not trust them), but because you're not hearing them say horrible things to another person outright, they might seem charming longer.
TLDR: They care very much how they're being perceived. They want to be liked because that's how they create and maintain a grandiose sense of self, and being charming is an important part of this process. They won't get ugly until they absolutely have to. For all these reasons, they might appear charming longer.
Also, assessing what's going on in initial interactions with psychopaths or narcissists is based on awareness (or lack therof) and experience in dealing with them. For example, because I had worked with a bunch of both, I was much more attuned to the behavior and games each would play. Fellow younger grad student friends had knowledge from textbooks, but they lacked real world experience and what their behavior actually looked like in real life, so it was hard for them to see what type of manipulation was going on.
EDIT:
ARTICLES for those of you who asked me:
This Is How To Deal With Psychopaths And Toxic People: 5 Proven Secrets (includes quotes by Martha Stout)
I like works by American psychologist, Martha Stout: served on clinical faculty at Harvard Med. School for 25 years and is the author of The Sociopath Nextdoor. I like her wording.
20 Diversion Tactics Highly Manipulative Narcissists, Sociopaths And Psychopaths Use To Silence You
7 Stages of Gaslighting in a Relationship
I have a lot more resources on workplace bullying, etc. PM for more. :)
He's a sociopath. That's not an exaggeration. He fits the criteria for sociopath (feel free to annotate criteria with other examples)
[1] https://www.md-health.com/Sociopath-Traits.html
[2] The Sociopath Next Door https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vmTXBb2D1FDVD
[8] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/business/media/trump-mika-brzezinski-facelift.html
[10] http://fortune.com/2018/08/05/trump-defend-don-jr-trump-tower-meeting/
there's actually quite a bit of evidence that he's a sociopath. It should be noted sociopath is not what most people think. It just means he doesn't operate based on a conscience like most people do. Estimates say 4% of people are sociopaths but they aren't the violent kind you'd expect from the movies. He fits the criteria for sociopath (feel free to annotate criteria with other examples)
He values winning above all else, morality does not seem to hold the slightest sway in decisions around winning [3]
Social relationships do not appear to hold value to him except in so far as they can be used to advance his goals [4]
He has callous unconcern for the feelings of others [5]
He has a persistent disregard for social norms and the taking of responsibility [6]
He has a very low tolerance for disagreement and frustration, lashing out at times violently for small matters [7]
He can appear charming to individuals, which makes him seem charismatic and he can make relationships quickly, but long term relationships of any depth eludes him and in fact any disagreements can end with violent attacks of long term allies [8]
He is incapable of accepting guilt and will repeatedly almost unconsciously blame others to avoid it. [9]
Most importantly he seems to hold conscience in low regard and suggests others don't have it either, or that they're lying about it to fulfill some goal of their own [10]
[1] https://www.md-health.com/Sociopath-Traits.html
[2] The Sociopath Next Door https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vmTXBb2D1FDVD
[8] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/business/media/trump-mika-brzezinski-facelift.html
[10] http://fortune.com/2018/08/05/trump-defend-don-jr-trump-tower-meeting/
Sociopath Next Door - https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
anything by Oliver Sacks - https://www.oliversacks.com
Or it's because they are a horrible person who gains enjoyment from hurting others. Sociopaths are a thing and they aren't capable of feeling love.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/signs-sociopath
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Martha Spout believes that the rate of sociopathy can be as high as 1 in 4 of the current population. It's not a romantic concept like someone doesn't feel lovable so they lash out - there is no cure except to remove them from your life completely.
I am all for helping people who can or want to change. That is a God given mission and a great mitzvah to do.
But I am also very aware that sociopathic people will prey on empathetic people and if you read Martha Stout's Book, The Sociopath Next Door, you will get very deeply that predatory people will do all get out to get someone to feel sorry for them - because then "they get to keys to candy store, and they go in and take everything they can get." She worked with imprisioned psychpaths/sociopaths and these are their very own words. Believe them - and once you can recognize their behavior patterns you won't forget them. Your intuition will also always tell you. These are the people beyond help -
So be careful and be aware.
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Here is a study or two about how sociopaths are more likely to cheat at things in life… it astonishing you needed a source before believing that assertion.
Also, this book will give you insight on how banal and common sociopathy is…
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
A sociopath is much more likely to be a Fortnite cheater than a serial killer.
Evil feels religious. I don't like that. Also, I feel people here seem to mean immoral when psychopaths are more accurately amoral. I've read a lot of the literature, and I think this is the best book on the subject. https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Some people are definitely born without the ability to feel empathy, have no conscience, unable to feel compassion or love the way others know it, have little fear of consequences, believe they are inherently smarter or better than others, etc. All signs of psychopathy. It’s their natural state of being, and they sometimes don’t know that they are different until they are told, or sense it in others. However, psychopathy does not always, or even mostly, mean violence.
Read- The Psychopath Next Door
If you're interested in the topic these articles are good starting point:
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828/
https://medium.com/swlh/psychopaths-sociopaths-and-great-business-leaders-7e847838005
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1053525.pdf
https://dealbreaker.com/2017/05/business-schools-might-have-tiny-little-psychopath-problem
A fabulous book: The Sociopath Next Door https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_D0W9F7NPRY3P8VH35WYV
https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Author - Martha Stout Ph.D
She completed her professional training in psychology at the McLean Psychiatric Hospital and obtained her Ph.D. at Stony Brook University. She served on the clinical faculty of the Harvard Medical School for over 25 years and also served on the academic faculties of The New School for Social Research, the Massachusetts School of Professional Psychology, and Wellesley College.[2] She writes on the subjects of conscience, character, and integrated awareness. Her work in psychology and cultural commentary has appeared in <em>The Boston Globe</em> and The Huffington Post, and she is a contributing writer for <em>The New Republic</em>.[3] Stout is in private practice as a clinical psychologist in Boston, where she specializes in recovery from psychological trauma, post-traumatic stress disorder, and suicide.
I never did support Avenatti.
You, however, support an objectively disgusting old fraud in Trump.
Here's some more evidence of what a ridiculously corrupt old lunatic he is:
For one thing e's a sociopath. That's not an exaggeration. He fits the criteria for sociopath.
[1] https://www.md-health.com/Sociopath-Traits.html
[2] The Sociopath Next Door https://www.amazon.com/dp/0767915828/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vmTXBb2D1FDVD
[8] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/business/media/trump-mika-brzezinski-facelift.html
[10] http://fortune.com/2018/08/05/trump-defend-don-jr-trump-tower-meeting/
He has direct ties to the murderous regime of Saudi Arabia.
President Trump's conflicts of interest and his administration's response to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
President Trump's business ties with the Saudis date back decades and are worth millions of dollars, a Saudi Prince that was later arrested by Crown Prince MBS had previously bailed out Donald Trump twice.^[6] President Trump has made money from Saudis while in office, a public relations firm for Saudi Arabia spent an exorbitant amount of money at his Trump Hotel in Washington in 2017 and a spokesman claimed that the payments came as a Saudi-backed lobbying campaign against a bill that was being deliberated on.^[7] President Trump was quick to jump to the defense of Saudi Arabia comparing the Kavanaugh ordeal with the likely state-sanctioned assassination of a journalist working for an American news agency.^[8] It should be noted that missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi was banned from entering Saudi Arabia in late 2016 following his criticism of President Trump.^[9]
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visited Riyad, Saudi Arabia and met with Crown Prince MBS and Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir. Upon his arrival Saudi Arabia delivered a $100 million pledge to the United States that was made in the summer, Saudi Arabia paid America for their efforts in fighting ISIS in Syria.^[10] When pressed by reporters Secretary of State Mike Pompeo stated that he did not want to discuss the facts of the missing journalist's ordeal nor did the Saudis,^[11] so instead they discussed other issues while he assured everyone that Saudi Arabia was conducting a thorough investigation.^[12]
Moreover, U.S. intelligence agency officials have grown increasingly convinced of Prince Mohammad bin Salman's involvement with the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. Circumstantial evidence including the presence of members of the Prince's security detail, intercepts of Saudi officials discussing a possible plan to detain Mr. Khashoggi, and Prince Mohammed bin Salman's complete control over the Saudi's security services means it is highly improbable that the prince did not know of the operation.^[13]
1) Wall Street Journal - How a Saudi Prince Unseated His Cousin to Become the Kingdom’s Heir Apparent
2) Reuters - A house divided: How Saudi Crown Prince purged royal family rivals
3) The Intercept - SAUDI CROWN PRINCE BOASTED THAT JARED KUSHNER WAS “IN HIS POCKET”
4) Reuters - Kushner loses access to top intelligence briefing: sources
6) Quartz - A Saudi prince helped save Trump from bankruptcy—twice
7) Washington Post - Trump’s business ties to kingdom run long and deep
8) Fox News - Trump, on Khashoggi case, decries 'guilty until proven innocent' claims
9) The Independent - Saudi Arabia bans journalist for criticising Donald Trump
11) The Hill - Pompeo: Saudis didn't want to discuss 'any of the facts' in Khashoggi disappearance
12) Fox News - Pompeo meets with Saudi leaders following Khashoggi’s disappearance
Keep supporting that hateful old con-man. But know we will NOT forgive you.
Joyce = The Sociopath Next Door
It might! It is hard to say, because I don't know your sister, but it can't hurt. I also recently picked up The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.
Martha Stout has a very good book on the subject. See https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/118905-the-sociopath-next-door and https://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
I recommend starting with Sociopath Next Door - it's not legally available for free. The Mask of Sanity is available here, free for educational purposes.
Pandemic 2. There's also Plague Inc: Evolved for Steam and tablets. I don't think it was made by the same people. Plague... is more suitable for casual / mobile gaming, truth be told.
I don't see your point - you're saying that CEO, Surgeon, and Lawyers are "very common jobs" but I disagree. The only common job there is "sales person" which still isn't that common. But I don't like making arbitrary claims (cough) so i'ma get some numbers...
BLS Employed Persons by Occupation (of our list of psychopaths) in thousands:
Total: 148,834
CEO - 1517 (1.02%)
Lawyer - 1803 (1.21%)
Media (Television/Radio) - This got a little tricky, I ended up counting producers/directors, "news analysts, reporters, correspondents", Public Relations Specialists, and Editors. The second group (news analysists, reporters, correspondents) will later be the entity of "journalists" because they lacked a separate distinction (the overlap is ok) - 544 (0.37%)
Salesperson - This is another tricky one, I went through the list and excluded any retail or administrative duty, I'm looking only as sales, so the categories are: first-line supervisors of non-retail sales, Advertising sales agents, insurances sales, "securities, commodities, financial services sales agents", Travel agents, Sales reps (services, other), Sales reps (wholesale), "Models, demonstrators, and product promoters", Real estate brokers, Telemarketers, door-to-door, sales engineers. The total here is 5422 (3.64%)
Surgeon - Another assumption, they grouped "Physicians/Surgeons" so I assumed a 50/50 split. Whatever, nitpick if you want. 503 (0.34%)
Journalist - So these didn't get their own group (unless I missed them). I'm calling them reporters/correspondents, and news analysts. 68 (0.05%)
Police officer - 688 (0.46%)
Clergy person - 496 (0.32%)
Chef - 415 (0.28%)
Civil servant - Here I had to go externally. They didn't seem to list it under anything I could find, but this lists the number as 2.721million so in our numbers 2721 (1.83%)
In total, all of these positions I included account for 9.51% of our economy that are filled the most with people considered "Psychopaths". A book report on the book "The Sociopath Next Door" claims that 4% (or 12 million) americans are "consciousless sociopaths" with probably way more being on the spectrum of sociopathy without being a full blown consciousless sociopath (my own conjecture). This falls in line with our employment numbers. We aren't talking about "most americans" in these jobs, we're talking about 10% of them, and there is a sharply consistent number of americans that suffer from a lack of empathy and a desire (or lack of the opposite) is to be a piece of shit.
The point I'm trying to make is that it is very likely that positions that assume authority over others are going to attract the people that want it. Police is one of those which means we need to be vigilant about our hiring practices that yield a police force that has empathy but the will to do what is necessary.
This police officer in question has no nerve, shot a man and then said "I don't know why" and now is backtracking and lying to cover his ass. And the fact is, this isn't even a remotely unique story. Cops faced in tough situations react the way I would - a fucking office jocky statistician. I wouldn't want some janitor doing my job because it takes skill and training - why don't we expect the same from our police officers. In fact, certain departments even PREFER corrupt and sociopathic cops source
I'm tired of this argument that our nations policing doesn't need reform - it's a god damned cess pool where the good are chased away and the bad are embraced. Anecdotally, my brother who is a cop decided to change careers after 7 years on the force because his department is insane and his coworkers are disgusting people.
edit: spelling error that changed the meaning of a sentence
>Jays life after all this seems pretty mundane considering his background. If he were this insanely bad he had plenty of time to get a decent out of control sociopath resume going.
That doesn't mean much, actually. There are plenty of sociopaths who lead relatively normal lives (recommended book: The Sociopath Next Door.
As I understand, Jay continued to have run-ins with the law. For me, that isn't really mundane. My mundane existence has managed to avoid run-ins with the law.
>You can make up a million fantasies about who could want to strangle Hae. But in the real world we only know one person. The dumped boyfriend.
This is not evidence. It's the sort of thinking that lead to the false conviction and 25 year incarceration of Michael Morton.
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>Sorry I have known a lot of people and Adnan is most definitely a type. I certainly know this guy by the way he talks. I knew him almost instantly. Jay could be a good actor on the witness stand. I can say for a fact they are both lying. But I believe Jay when he says Adnan did it.
You know people who murder their ex-girlfriends? Because that's the type you are comparing Adnan to. What exactly is that type?
>I certainly know this guy by the way he talks. I knew him almost instantly. Jay could be a good actor on the witness stand. I can say for a fact they are both lying. But I believe Jay when he says Adnan did it.
This all sets off red flags to me. It isn't evidence based at all. You apparently made a snap decision and went with it. There's no way you can examine the evidence with an open mind. I'm sorry but this really disqualifies you as someone who can have an unbiased opinion. I recommend this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
A good read though I don't agree with some of the points in the book it is a good insight.
This may or may not help to explain things for you: http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Door-Martha-Stout/dp/0767915828
Let me add another one for you to read, The Sociopath Next Door. After reading that, you will think everybody is up to no go.
Actually, I believe that anyone running for any public office or about to be appointed to any government office at any level should have to take this test: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist
Failure of the test would not only disqualify the candidate for office, but guarantee him Life Without Parole in a SuperMax prison.
see also: Stout, "The Sociopath Next Door" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767915828/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=076791581X&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0W3Z0QHQ6WG5A065WVRT
If you like the OP's cited book, you may also like other books by Robert Hare on the same topic:
See also:
I had one of these assholes for a boss for about a year and a half before the company caught on and got his green card revoked.
that is all
<em>The Sociopath Next Door</em> is a great book and was written by a Harvard psychologist.
>What kind of bad actors?
Sociopaths, for one. It's been estimated that between 1% and 4% of the population are sociopaths. Take that source with a grain of salt if you want, but they're out there. And they will fuck things up for other people. Hell, sometimes a regular person will just fucking snap and do some crazy or stupid shit for no good reason. Damage someone's property, injure them, who knows?
The point is that you can't assume rational behavior on people all the time. Every anarchist proponent I've ever met, including you, seems to be blind to the notion that people act irrationally a lot. Any society that wants to be successful or thrive has to be able to deal with these kinds of people and situations.
Eventually, punishment has to be meted out. And you can dress it up however you want to, you can use other words, and try to dodge the idea all you want, but at the end of the day you're still going to have what you refer to as "rulers". That function must exist. To suggest otherwise is to ignore human nature.
Look, I wish I believed in human nature the way you do. I really do. But I use the word Utopian for a reason. Because that's where your beliefs are.