{"product":{"product_id":"B00OZ3HUVA","title":"The Suffragette Bombers: Britain's Forgotten Terrorists","price":"2.99","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51+7DYnR-JL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OZ3HUVA"},"comments":[{"body":"\u0026gt; Feminism has always been a disease.\r\n\r\nYep. It was never about \"equality\". [The Suffragette Bombers: Britain's Forgotten Terrorists](https://www.amazon.com/Suffragette-Bombers-Britains-Forgotten-Terrorists-ebook/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=\u0026amp;sr=)","subreddit_name":"MGTOW","author":"NoSignalCharlie7954"},{"body":"They haven't changed a bit. Same terrorists they have always been:\r\n\r\n[The Suffragette Bombers: Britain's Forgotten Terrorists](https://www.amazon.com/Suffragette-Bombers-Britains-Forgotten-Terrorists-ebook/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=\u0026amp;sr=)\r\n\r\nCheck out the reviews.","subreddit_name":"MGTOW","author":"AlphabetMafia8787"},{"body":"[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as\\_li\\_ss\\_tl?\\_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;btkr=1\u0026amp;linkCode=sl1\u0026amp;tag=iktnweb-21\u0026amp;linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917\u0026amp;language=en\\_GB](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;btkr=1\u0026amp;linkCode=sl1\u0026amp;tag=iktnweb-21\u0026amp;linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917\u0026amp;language=en_GB)\r\n\r\nIf you insist, but I really doubted you'd need a citation. I wouldn't make that outlandish of a claim with such conviction if there wasn't some basis to it.\r\n\r\nHas Elliott Rodgers actually ever claimed to be an MRA, or pro men's equality? As far as I'm concerned, it's mostly feminists trying to make leaps and stretches to link him to the movement. \r\n\r\nI'm not \"tarring\" your movement by pointing to a couple of terrorists. If I wanted to \"tar\" feminism, there are far more effective examples to use as ammunition. But I take issue with you declaring to be a first and second wave feminist as if they were:\r\n\r\n1) Better than their future counterparts. To me they are not.\r\n\r\n2) A perfect representation of what you think feminism is. \r\n\r\nI don't care what you believe feminism to be at the moment. But I'm troubled by the constant misinformation being spread that paints the suffragettes and second-wave feminists as saints. They are far from and I argue that they and their ideologies at the time are far worse than third wave and fourth wave feminism. At least the latter, most of time, does not act on their incessant hatred of men.","subreddit_name":"MensRights","author":"reddut_gang"},{"body":"Actually I do understand feminism.\r\n\r\nName one good thing feminism has done for men. Feminists claim to be for equality, so name it. \r\n\r\nI can name things feminists have done against men. \r\n\r\nMary koss, a feminist who has been in front of congress and helps advise the cdc and fbi. She says women cant rape people, and men cant be raped. \r\n\r\n[https://clyp.it/uckbtczn](https://clyp.it/uckbtczn) \r\n\r\nFeminists lobbied against gender neutral rape laws in india. \r\n\r\n[https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms) \r\n\r\nThe same in israel. \r\n\r\n[https://www.jpost.com/israel/womens-groups-cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape](https://www.jpost.com/israel/womens-groups-cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape) \r\n\r\nAnd nepal..\r\n\r\n[https://kathmandupost.com/national/2020/12/11/ordinance-amends-law-on-rape-but-fails-to-recognise-rape-of-boy-child-and-sexual-minorities](https://kathmandupost.com/national/2020/12/11/ordinance-amends-law-on-rape-but-fails-to-recognise-rape-of-boy-child-and-sexual-minorities) \r\n\r\nThey threatened the person who made the first domestic abuse shelters life for saying men can be raped. \r\n\r\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin\\_Pizzey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey) \r\n\r\nThey were terrorists leading up to ww1. \r\n\r\n[https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as\\_li\\_ss\\_tl?\\_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;btkr=1\u0026amp;linkCode=sl1\u0026amp;tag=iktnweb-21\u0026amp;linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917\u0026amp;language=en\\_GB](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;btkr=1\u0026amp;linkCode=sl1\u0026amp;tag=iktnweb-21\u0026amp;linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917\u0026amp;language=en_GB) \r\n\r\nThey sent bomb threats to people who revealed the  rate of violence against women was the same against men \r\n\r\n[https://archive.is/gT0O6](https://archive.is/gT0O6) \r\n\r\nDirectors of feminists organizations say girls arent hurting boys at all.\r\n\r\n[https://imgur.com/YUAwAYt](https://imgur.com/YUAwAYt) \r\n\r\nHeres a quote by Karen Straughan. \r\n\r\n\" So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists... they are not \"real feminists\".\r  \r\n\r  \r\nThat's not just \"no true Scotsman\". That's delusional self deception.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nListen, if you want to call yourself a feminist, I don't care. I've been investigating feminism for more than 9 years now, and people like you used to piss me off, because to my mind all you were doing was providing cover and ballast for the powerful political and academic feminists you claim are just jerks. And believe me, they ARE jerks. If you knew half of what I know about the things they've done under the banner of feminism, maybe you'd stop calling yourself one.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nBut I want you to know. You don't matter. You're not the director of the Feminist Majority Foundation and editor of Ms. Magazine, Katherine Spillar, who said of domestic violence: \"Well, that's just a clean-up word for wife-beating,\" and went on to add that regarding male victims of dating violence, \"we know it's not girls beating up boys, it's boys beating up girls.\"\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not Jan Reimer, former mayor of Edmonton and long-time head of Alberta's Network of Women's Shelters, who just a few years ago refused to appear on a TV program discussing male victims of domestic violence, because for her to even show up and discuss it would lend legitimacy to the idea that they exist.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not Mary P Koss, who describes male victims of female rapists in her academic papers as being not rape victims because they were \"ambivalent about their sexual desires\" (if you don't know what that means, it's that they actually wanted it), and then went on to define them out of the definition of rape in the CDC's research because it's inappropriate to consider what happened to them rape.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the National Organization for Women, and its associated legal foundations, who lobbied to replace the gender neutral federal Family Violence Prevention and Services Act of 1984 with the obscenely gendered Violence Against Women Act of 1994. The passing of that law cut male victims out of support services and legal assistance in more than 60 passages, just because they were male.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the Florida chapter of the NOW, who successfully lobbied to have Governor Rick Scott veto not one, but two alimony reform bills in the last ten years, bills that had passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, and were supported by more than 70% of the electorate.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the feminist group in Maryland who convinced every female member of the House on both sides of the aisle to walk off the floor when a shared parenting bill came up for a vote, meaning the quorum could not be met and the bill died then and there.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the feminists in Canada agitating to remove sexual assault from the normal criminal courts, into quasi-criminal courts of equity where the burden of proof would be lowered, the defendant could be compelled to testify, discovery would go both ways, and defendants would not be entitled to a public defender.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not Professor Elizabeth Sheehy, who wrote a book advocating that women not only have the right to murder their husbands without fear of prosecution if they make a claim of abuse, but that they have the moral responsibility to murder their husbands.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the feminist legal scholars and advocates who successfully changed rape laws such that a woman's history of making multiple false allegations of rape can be excluded from evidence at trial because it's \"part of her sexual history.\"\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're not the feminists who splattered the media with the false claim that putting your penis in a passed-out woman's mouth is \"not a crime\" in Oklahoma, because the prosecutor was incompetent and charged the defendant under an inappropriate statute (forcible sodomy) and the higher court refused to expand the definition of that statute beyond its intended scope when there was already a perfectly good one (sexual battery) already there. You're not the idiot feminists lying to the public and potentially putting women in Oklahoma at risk by telling potential offenders there's a \"legal\" way to rape them.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nAnd you're none of the hundreds or thousands of feminist scholars, writers, thinkers, researchers, teachers and philosophers who constructed and propagate the body of bunkum theories upon which all of these atrocities are based.\r  \r\n\r  \r\nYou're the true feminist. Some random person on the internet.\"","subreddit_name":"AsABlackMan","author":"YouLookGoodInASmile"},{"body":"**1st wave feminists:** Two examples of first wave feminists demanding and getting men's rights without men's responsibilities. Two of them actively involve zero sum situations such as income and property rights, or custody rights to children, and in both cases feminists managed to arrange things such that women got all the rights while men were still burdened with all the responsibility: **1)** [Won the right for married women to own their own property and income, and hold it separate from their husband's control.](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_Women%27s_Property_Act_1882) [Yet maintained the legal entitlement of married women to be supported financially by their husband.](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverture) Their entitlement to their husbands support even extended to the tax burden on their property and income--property and income their husbands were legally prohibited from touching. There were men sent to prison in the UK for tax evasion for being unable to pay the taxes owing on the property/income of their wealthier wives. [One suffragette, Dr. Elizabeth Wilks even refused (as was her right under the law) to provide her husband with the necessary documentation so he could calculate the taxes, and given that he was a schoolteacher and responsible for paying for everything else, he couldn't have afforded to pay it regardless.](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wilks) While he was in prison, she urged other suffragettes to do what she had. He was released from prison on humanitarian grounds due to his failing health, and died a few months later. **2)** [Won default mother custody of young children upon divorce or separation thanks to the tender years doctrine](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tender_years_doctrine). Previously, the assumption was of paternal custody since the father was solely burdened with financial responsibility for their care. Of course, it was only custody that was changed, financial responsibility still fell 100% to the father to maintain the household of his minor children.**first wave**: **A)** [In the years leading up to the First World War, the suffragettes were responsible of many incidents of bombing and arson in the United Kingdom, The targets for their attacks ranged from St Paul's Cathedral and the Bank of England in London to theatres and churches in Ireland. The violence, which included several attempted assassinations, culminated in June 1914 with an explosion in Westminster Abbey.](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HUVA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;btkr=1\u0026amp;linkCode=sl1\u0026amp;tag=iktnweb-21\u0026amp;linkId=25b6dae8537b762785db6883a2e72917\u0026amp;language=en_GB), [\\[1\\]](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/www.historyhouse.co.uk/articles/suffragettes.html), [\\[2\\]](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://www.historytoday.com/fern-riddell/weaker-sex-violence-and-suffragette-movement) **B)** [There were also many suffragettes who were racists and white supremacists](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://thefrisky.com/your-fave-is-problematic-white-suffragettes-were-very-fucking-racist/), for example Susan B. Anthony who said ''I will cut off this right arm of mine before I will ask for the ballot for the Negro and not for the woman.” and Carrie Chapman Catt, the Founder of the League of Women Voters who said ''White supremacy will be strengthened, not weakened, by women’s suffrage.” **C)** After the titanic disaster, on April 21, 1912 the New York Times reported a story from London, England, headlined “Suffragettes Deny Chivalry on the Titanic.” in which [Sylvia Pankhurst, a militant suffragette](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Pankhurst) [said that the men of the Titanic had not really displayed exceptional gallantry as ''women first is the universal rule''](https://archive.is/o/AWSEN/https://magicmastsandsturdyships.weebly.com/titanic-headlines-titanic-questions.html)","subreddit_name":"antifeminists","author":"Thanosboi86"}]}