{"product":{"product_id":"0967967503","title":"The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric","price":"13.59","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51uG+FOjwgL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0967967503"},"comments":[{"body":"Try:\r\n\r\n[The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar and Rhetoric](https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503)  \r\nby Sister Miriam Joseph \r\n\r\nthere's a good description at the beginning of that book of how/why we communicate in the way we do in that book. Depending on your background you may need to hit the dictionary and research a lot of the terms used. I had that problem because I'm probably not in the target demographic of that book but I think it's really interesting!","subreddit_name":"learnmath","author":"Windscale_Fire"},{"body":"The 'Trivium' is not some secret to education being denied to the 'masses' who yearn to 'think for themselves'. If you attended a Catholic school before and during the 1950s and 60s, you were probably exposed to the Trivium. Nobody called it that 'explicitly', but that's what teh sisters of the Bleeding Heart and the Jesuits of the \"Don't tell your parents\" were teaching. Hardly cutting edge.  \r\n\r\nSkip the YouTube bullshit about alchemy and secrets of the universe. Go to your local library, ask about interlibrary loans and get a copy of Sister Miriam Joseph's *The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric*. The ISBN number is all they need. [https://www.amazon.com/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503/ref=sr\\_1\\_4?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=trivium\u0026amp;qid=1595361731\u0026amp;sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.com/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=trivium\u0026amp;qid=1595361731\u0026amp;sr=8-4)  \r\n\r\n\r\nYou'll want to get it from the library, because even if you manage to get to the end, you'll be thanking all the Daoist gods in paradise that you didn't spend money on it or attend 20 hours of YouTube videos on this. (I would recommend thanking 兔兒神 Tu'er Shen, the Gay Rabbit God, as an especially ironic tribute to the conservative wing of the Roman Catholicism.) Congratulations, you just rediscovered the ancient secrets of William F. Buckley's middle school years! You're qualified to write outraged articles about American culture for the *National Review*! Your grandmother is so proud!","subreddit_name":"Taoist","author":"KunbyedRgyalpo"},{"body":"while it's not the easiest read, i bought [this book](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967967503) on the trivium about 10 years ago\r\n\r\nas for the quadrivium (arithmetic, geometry, music, astronomy), there are plenty of books on those subjects","subreddit_name":"conspiracy","author":"alone_in_the_crowd_"},{"body":"Not everyone agrees with my pedagogy, but I do honestly think the following will help you, not simply in a patriots reddit, where you completely misjudge the person to and with whom you are conversing, but in life; these kinds of messups take their toll, eventually. \r\n\r\nhttp://www.csus.edu/indiv/m/mayesgr/phl4/handouts/phl4contradiction.htm\r\n\r\nCheck out this too, if you want a more indepth look at logic and grammar; needless to say, it will do you, kksred, a great deal: \r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1503198807\u0026amp;sr=8-1\u0026amp;keywords=the+trivium","subreddit_name":"Patriots","author":"nonsensejon"},{"body":"Fill your head with something more interesting. Find a hobby or learn something new to give you other things to talk about. As far as getting them out, you can read The Trivium by Sister Miriam Joseph. My husband was falling down the rabbit hole like you are with conspiracy theories. The Trivium helped him learn how to break down the conspiracies until he was able to refute them himself.   \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n# The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric\r\n\r\n  \r\n[https://smile.amazon.com/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503/ref=sr\\_1\\_3?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=trivium\u0026amp;qid=1607127365\u0026amp;sr=8-3](https://smile.amazon.com/Trivium-Liberal-Logic-Grammar-Rhetoric/dp/0967967503/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1\u0026amp;keywords=trivium\u0026amp;qid=1607127365\u0026amp;sr=8-3)","subreddit_name":"Advice","author":"thisismyusername51"}]}