{"product":{"product_id":"0465098835","title":"The Way We Never Were: American Families and the Nostalgia Trap","price":"20.99","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51VJV1R3JKL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0465098835"},"comments":[{"body":"\u0026gt; The phenomenon of 'return to the past' nationalism/conservatism may also be an an area to look into. I am less helpful with that, but maybe a search on amazon may help, or someone else could suggest some works.\r\n\r\n[I gotchu fam!](https://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835/ref=sr_1_1?s=books\u0026amp;ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1469464495\u0026amp;sr=1-1\u0026amp;keywords=the+way+we+never+were) A sociology professor recommended this as a great look at the topic, albeit less philosophical and more historical/sociological.","subreddit_name":"askphilosophy","author":"scdozer435"},{"body":"Certainly for most of human history, the concept of marriage was primarily an economic arrangement that wasn't built off any concept of 'love' or 'romance' as a cornerstone. And if 'were' there, it was mostly incidental to the relationship and was something that grew on the husband and wife. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten jumped on by a cadre of ignorant hoes, who screech that \"women have always worked!,\" \"the 1950's wasn't some kind of utopia!,\" \"DURRRRRRRR!!!!!!\"\r\n\r\nYes, honey. [I know the history of it too](https://smile.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3S5PUPRS2D4NQ\u0026amp;keywords=the+way+we+never+were%5C\u0026amp;qid=1658552549\u0026amp;s=books\u0026amp;sprefix=%2Cstripbooks%2C1647\u0026amp;sr=1-1). That was a product of 20th century domestic ideology and while it wasn't a universal widespread phenomenon everywhere, it 'absolutely' existed and was a good and functional ideal to live toward just as much then as it is today. I grew up with two parents that followed that basic arrangement. Our family was still 'extremely' dysfunctional and abusive, but that was because my mom and dad were polar opposites who weren't for each other.\r\n\r\nI don't object to a woman who doesn't want kids, or wants to work. What I object to is a widespread propaganda campaign that tries to convince women to ignore their biological instincts, the consequence of which will certainly make 'most' of them unhappy down the road. The type of women who 'want' a career as opposed to working one out of necessity, will always be destined to be in the minority, so there's nothing to worry about by letting them have it.\r\n\r\nI find most of G.K. Chesterton's writing extremely boring, but he encapsulated [the principle](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/52258-it-feminism-is-mixed-up-with-a-muddled-idea-that) quite well. It's almost a pity feeling like I'll die in [Kali Yuga](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga#:~:text=The%20Kali%20Yuga%2C%20in%20Hinduism,full%20of%20conflict%20and%20sin.) just short of the [light at the end of the tunnel](https://smile.amazon.com/Past-Future-Country-Conservative-Demographic/dp/1788360753/ref=sr_1_1?crid=331X46ZZQLS6T\u0026amp;keywords=conservative+demographic+revolution\u0026amp;qid=1658553370\u0026amp;s=books\u0026amp;sprefix=conservative+demog%2Cstripbooks%2C1906\u0026amp;sr=1-1).","subreddit_name":"CultureWarRoundup","author":"twisted_rainbow"},{"body":"It seems that your comment contains 1 or more links that are hard to tap for mobile users. \r\nI will extend those so they're easier for our sausage fingers to click!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Here is link number 1 - Previous text \":\"](https://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n----\r\n^Please ^PM ^[\\/u\\/eganwall](http://reddit.com/user/eganwall) ^with ^issues ^or ^feedback! ^| ^[Code](https://github.com/eganwall/FatFingerHelperBot) ^| ^[Delete](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=FatFingerHelperBot\u0026amp;subject=delete\u0026amp;message=delete%20hmpdcxp)","subreddit_name":"HermanCainAward","author":"FatFingerHelperBot"},{"body":"Recommended read: [The Way We Never Were](https://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835)[:](https://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835)[American Families and the Nostalgia Trap](https://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835)","subreddit_name":"HermanCainAward","author":"circuspeanut54"},{"body":"The way things never were.  Coontz\r\n\r\nhttps://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465098835/ref=pd_sbs_14_img_0?_encoding=UTF8\u0026amp;psc=1\u0026amp;refRID=H6FM1YRSBPDF5FECNE0K","subreddit_name":"exmormon","author":"mannheimsteamroller"}]}