> Yes, I've seen this too. > What I think is interesting is where marriage goes from here. > The concept of legal marriage -- a union of one man and one woman, until one of the partners is deceased, with lifetime hard monogamy for both, for the purpose of pooling resources and dividing labor? That's DEAD.
Yes, absolutely. The only vestiges of Marriage 1.0 left are my grandparents generation and maybe a pittance percentage of my parent's generation (I'm 34).
> Most women will go to an AF/BB/AF strategy, where it's AF to 30, then BB for fatherhood until the kids are older (with some Chad on the side); then AF again when the kids get to high school and Mom is freed up.
This is already being normalized by society and the culture. 20 years ago, this whole bullshit "Cougar" phenomenon wasn't even a thing. Back before feminism destroyed the culture, women in their late 40's, 50's and 60's were busy being the respected matriarchs of their families. They were teaching their grandkids valuable life lessons and spoiling them with ice cream and candy behind the parent's backs. They were proud grandmothers.
Today, the average single spinster is abandoning that in favor of lifelong, unfulfilling "careers", whilst simultaneously watching DVR recordings of "Cougar Town" and "Sex in the City" reruns. And before bed, they're hopping on www.cougarlife.com to see if any desperate Simp sent her a message.
It's no mistake or accident that this "Cougar" culture is being thrust upon us; it is by design. Old man/young woman and old woman/young man used to both be shunned. But now, "Cougar" has to be normalized, because these old women are figuring out that feminism sold them a shitty bill of goods, and feminism has to do damage control by altering social norms to satisfy these spinsters of the Old Feminist Guard.
> An increasing number of women will go to one-way open cuckold marriages -- where she stays married to her BB, and fucks Chads on the side with BB's full knowledge. I think more than a few women will say "we're opening up this marriage because I want to fuck hotter guys, and I'll stay married to you and sex you when I feel like it; but I want to fuck hotter guys. If you divorce me I'll ruin you financially and you'll never see the kids again."
I'd suggest this is already happening in bigger numbers than anyone is publicly ready to admit yet. Look at the whole "Eat Pray Love" phenomenon and the "Wild Oats Project". What happens to the culture is often predicated in literature; women are now vocally expressing their desires to openly cuck Betas. That is literally the premise of Wild Oats project; a woman married 18 years stays married, moves out of her house, and starts fucking every Chad with a willing dick, then at the end rationalizes away the whole thing as somehow empowering.
Women are actively and openly saying Welcome to the Hypergamy Buffet, here's my hypergamy on a fucking platter, gentlemen, eat the scraps of it or starve altogether. How men choose to react to this female, societal shit test will be telling. What these women fail to realize is that there is a new restaurant being built across the street and opening soon: The SexBot Cafe.
> think most men will have to accept that they wont' get married like their dads did. They aren't going to have lifetime marriage partners. They won't have long term sex partners. They'll have a series of partners, if they're lucky. Most men will either have "get lucky" sex interspersed among exceedingly long dry spells. Some will resort to escorts. A significant number will give up and avoid women altogether. The top 10% to 15% will have virtually ALL the sex.
Also agree and have nothing more to add. Enjoy the decline.
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> Yes, I've seen this too. > What I think is interesting is where marriage goes from here. > The concept of legal marriage -- a union of one man and one woman, until one of the partners is deceased, with lifetime hard monogamy for both, for the purpose of pooling resources and dividing labor? That's DEAD.
Yes, absolutely. The only vestiges of Marriage 1.0 left are my grandparents generation and maybe a pittance percentage of my parent's generation (I'm 34).
> Most women will go to an AF/BB/AF strategy, where it's AF to 30, then BB for fatherhood until the kids are older (with some Chad on the side); then AF again when the kids get to high school and Mom is freed up.
This is already being normalized by society and the culture. 20 years ago, this whole bullshit "Cougar" phenomenon wasn't even a thing. Back before feminism destroyed the culture, women in their late 40's, 50's and 60's were busy being the respected matriarchs of their families. They were teaching their grandkids valuable life lessons and spoiling them with ice cream and candy behind the parent's backs. They were proud grandmothers.
Today, the average single spinster is abandoning that in favor of lifelong, unfulfilling "careers", whilst simultaneously watching DVR recordings of "Cougar Town" and "Sex in the City" reruns. And before bed, they're hopping on www.cougarlife.com to see if any desperate Simp sent her a message.
It's no mistake or accident that this "Cougar" culture is being thrust upon us; it is by design. Old man/young woman and old woman/young man used to both be shunned. But now, "Cougar" has to be normalized, because these old women are figuring out that feminism sold them a shitty bill of goods, and feminism has to do damage control by altering social norms to satisfy these spinsters of the Old Feminist Guard.
> An increasing number of women will go to one-way open cuckold marriages -- where she stays married to her BB, and fucks Chads on the side with BB's full knowledge. I think more than a few women will say "we're opening up this marriage because I want to fuck hotter guys, and I'll stay married to you and sex you when I feel like it; but I want to fuck hotter guys. If you divorce me I'll ruin you financially and you'll never see the kids again."
I'd suggest this is already happening in bigger numbers than anyone is publicly ready to admit yet. Look at the whole "Eat Pray Love" phenomenon and the "Wild Oats Project". What happens to the culture is often predicated in literature; women are now vocally expressing their desires to openly cuck Betas. That is literally the premise of Wild Oats project; a woman married 18 years stays married, moves out of her house, and starts fucking every Chad with a willing dick, then at the end rationalizes away the whole thing as somehow empowering.
Women are actively and openly saying Welcome to the Hypergamy Buffet, here's my hypergamy on a fucking platter, gentlemen, eat the scraps of it or starve altogether. How men choose to react to this female, societal shit test will be telling. What these women fail to realize is that there is a new restaurant being built across the street and opening soon: The SexBot Cafe.
> think most men will have to accept that they wont' get married like their dads did. They aren't going to have lifetime marriage partners. They won't have long term sex partners. They'll have a series of partners, if they're lucky. Most men will either have "get lucky" sex interspersed among exceedingly long dry spells. Some will resort to escorts. A significant number will give up and avoid women altogether. The top 10% to 15% will have virtually ALL the sex.
Also agree and have nothing more to add. Enjoy the decline.