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Well, there was the fact that he said that he was worried about a Federal judge being biased because he was Mexican. You know, the one I mentioned upthread? The one from fucking INDIANA? Calling a judge biased based on his apparent race is... racist! My source is... Donald Trump, who said that shit himself on camera.
Also, upthread, was mention of the Department of Justice going after the property management company that Trump ran twice for racist practices related to black applicants. Discriminating against people based on race in terms of whether or not you will rent to them is... racist! If you need a source on that, there's google.
The, the book written by the former president of his casino. Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall. I wish I had an affiliate link. The statement was "Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control.... Don't you agree?" Do I really have to point out what this is an example of?
So yeah, the guys is what we in the field like to call "really fucking racist", probably just shy of "don't mention blacks around Uncle Ted even if he's sober"-racist. These facts weren't hidden away or never mentioned. I didn't really go hunting for them or engage in anything a junior high English teacher would call research. It's all fairly common knowledge.
Tell me, is any of this really a surprise to you?
Edit: And you edited a bunch of crap into your post. Whatever.
Apart from the examples you probably know about, e.g. mexican rapist comments. The former president of one of his casino's wrote a book in 1991, with much more explicit quotes.
Probably the most well known of which, is "laziness is a trait in blacks. I really believe that".
The context is nonexistent, because he didn't say it. The only source you will find for that is a book that was written to defame Trump, this book here: https://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Inside-Trump-His-Cunning-Spectacular/dp/067173735X The same source that people cite when they quote Donald Trump as saying things like black people are lazy.
Article 1: Ha. Starting off strong. The meme came from a site and creator who has plenty of anti-Semitic content. The suspension of disbelief is strong with you if you think it was just coincidence that the star was six pointed.
Article 2: I guess you agree with this?
Article 3-6: He's consistently applauding the strong arm tactics of authoritarians. There's no white washing that.
Article 7: Yes, because the KKK kept and published their membership we should be able to find it all. I'll admit though, that this is the one that is impossible to prove without further evidence.
Articles 8, 9, 11: It doesn't seem relevant that there is a significant amount of white supremacy and anti-semitic speech coming from his official and unofficial supporters?
Article 10: Ok, you don't like that? How about this quote “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
That snopes article is with respect to the quote "lazy fools only good at eating, lovmaking, and thuggery." The quote Im referring to is allegedly from the following book: http://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Inside-Trump-His-Cunning-Spectacular/dp/067173735X/ref=la_B000APBB94_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1451843508&sr=1-1
>This is in the first or second year of at least a 4 year term and potential 8 year term.
As mentioned in my original question, Trump has being accused of racism and dealing with racial accusations dating back as far as the early 1970s. Before he was even on the national stage. This wasn't something that begun in 2016 and picked up in an attempt to "find dirt" on him as you seem to claim in your response. There were many many people who came forward.
Here's a list of things he's dealt with directly (note there are some moments of seemingly anti-racist acts). His "introduction" to the public eye was a report of him being sued by the DOJ for being racist. But that isn't it.
Here's a book published in 1991 also accusing Trump of being racist .
>Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.
The author recently wrote another article going into more detail and with more accounts.
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He lost a discrimination suit in 1992
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Here's an article from 2015 highlighting accusations made against Trump in the early 1980s
>"When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” he said. “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back."
It should be noted that, Trump isn't even the subject matter of that article.
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He had a fairly bigoted response to the 2010 mosque fiasco
>Letterman wondered: "Describe for me what insensitivity is manifested if it's built there?" And Letterman fretted: "Does this suggest that we are in fact officially at war with Muslims?"
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>To which, Trump observed: "Well, somebody knocked down the World Trade Center."
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>Well, somebody's blowing us up. I mean, somebody's blowing up buildings, and somebody's doing lots of bad stuff, David.
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I don't point to all of these in an attempt to try and convince you Donald Trump is racist. I do so because I'm struggling seeing how the top answer on this question is that accusation that Trump is racist is "way off base".
Can you see how it would be strange to a NS that the first thing that popped into many NN here's mind is racism. When, at this point believing Trump isn't racist is pretty much faith based (which is fine) considering it goes against court cases and accusations dating back all the way to the 70s?
In John R. O’Donnell’s book, Trumped! The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump, he quoted Trump as saying, quote, “laziness is a trait in blacks” and saying he hates letting blacks count his money.
A few years after the book was published, Donald Trump did an interview with Playboy. He told Playboy, and I quote, “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
>He did denounce those groups. I've read the quotes myself.
Not in every instance he didn't and in many, he didn't denounce them at all. Hence my claim he repeatedly was reluctant stands true.
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> A quick fact check kills this argument
Funny that you demand sources yet supply none. A quick fact check reveals multiple instances he failed to denounce white supremacy.
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> Apparently he had so say it every time he spoke to appease his critics.
Every time he was asked about it, yes.
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> The fine people quote wasn't for them, you are cherry picking the quote. Read the whole thing.
It was for them. The reporter specifically asked about the alt-left and white supremacist and Trump said:
"Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."
In that same press conference, Trump failed to condemn white supremacists. He said they should be condemned, but that's not condemning them. The rest of the back and forth with the reporter, Trump kept trying to conflate "the other side" with all protestors so it would appear that he wasn't speaking too negatively about white supremacists. So he said there are some bad white nationalists and white supremacists, but was also sympathetic towards them and did describe them as very fine people, though he tried to walk that back later.
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>Implied racism. Nice.
Yeah. When Trump refuses to rent apartments to black people it's not explicit racism, it's implied racism.
>What is the book and who wrote it? I'd like to read.
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
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"Laziness is a trait in blacks.”"
https://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Inside-Trump-His-Cunning-Spectacular/dp/067173735X
"Get him off there right now," Trump said, "and don't ever let that happen again. I don't want people to think that Trump Tower is being built by Black people."
" The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino has lost a bid to overturn a $200,000 penalty imposed because managers catered to the presumed prejudices of a high roller by removing a black dealer from his table. "
"When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,"
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/09/07/the-death-and-life-of-atlantic-city
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and then you also have the entire birther movement which has been proven to be a racist dog whistle which was the catalyst for Trump's campaign.
You want sources? I got sources. I don’t speak without educating myself. I do research. :)
> do you have a source he agreed to stop
Yeah. I already linked it in my original comment. Thanks for proving you didn’t read it.
> Source for “laziness in blacks”
A book written by an former Trump employee - really interesting read BTW.
> rapists and drug lords
I might have misspoken with “all” - but for one decent statement he makes, he makes 5 negative ones. He outright said “they’re not bringing their best, they’re sending people with problems....but maybe some of them are okay” as if the majority of them aren’t.
> bUt iT hApPeNeD uNdEr ObAmA!!¡¡
We separated children under Obama from actual violent criminals, which happens here everyday in the US. When it’s in the best interest of the child, it should be done. Taking hard working people and imprisoning them for a misdemeanor (illegal border crossing) with NO criminal history is what’s happening under Trump. Imagine that - losing your kids for speeding or jaywalking. There’s a huge difference there.
Also, can any Trump supporter defend the president without bringing up another politician? We’re talking about Trump’s behavior, not Obama’s. I never said Obama was any better. I said Trump is caging children and LOSING THEM over misdemeanors - that’s something Obama never did.
> source for that tweet
which one? or both?
> they’re using our tax money to transition
His anti-transgender movement is just like the anti-gay movement, which prevented plenty of eligible people from joining the military. Can you provide me a source where they started banning transgenders because they were using money for transitioning? The logic I’ve seen was that gender dysphoria is a “mental health concern” which will prevent them from being able to effectively do their jobs (which wouldn’t be a problem if they were allowed to transition....and we fuck our soldiers up constantly with PTSD....but, y’know)
Here’s a good article written by the US Naval Academy
We’ll have to agree to disagree about the shithole country part. There are plenty of white-majority shithole countries and none of those were on his list. Take almost any country that was part of the USSR, for example.
I tried and failed. They are all too good. Honestly though, I don't think any quotes speak as loudly as denying housing to black people. : https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html
The quotes were gathered from this website: https://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-racist-15-controversial-quotes-president-elect-said-about-blacks-2447531
The question of "Is Donald Trump Racist?" has been very well documented. It is a bit tricky to work Google though.
“If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me,” Trump said in response to Khizr Kahn, the father of fallen Muslim Army Captain Humayun Khan, after his Democratic National Convention speech in July.
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people,” Trump said while announcing his campaign in June 2016.
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks,” John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump saying to him in his 1991 book. In May 1997, Trump was asked about his comment during an interview with Playboy, and he confirmed that “the stuff” O’Donnell wrote about him were “probably true.”
“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. . . . If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage,” Trump said in a 1989 interview with Bryant Gumbel.
“He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings – rulings that people can’t even believe,” Trump said about Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who oversaw a class action lawsuit against Trump University. Curiel is a U.S. citizen who was born in Indiana.
"He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way," Trump said of Obama during a March 2011 appearance on The Laura Ingram show.
"LAZINESS IS A TRAIT IN BLACKS."
from this book: http://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Inside-Trump-His-Cunning-Spectacular/dp/067173735X
please rationalize this quote.
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