What is Reddit's opinion of Tyranny of Kindness: Dismantling the Welfare System to End Poverty in America?

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Anyone who thinks the heartless compassion-less bureaucratic government who treats EVERYONE like a freaking number, and a statistic on a filled out request form, and which can't make an independent decision based on real need instead of the 'program guidelines enacted by the legislature' is better than REAL private charity is just in denial of reality.

Getting assistance from the government is DEHUMANIZING because,

• Government has no heart

• Government has no compassion

• Government does not help someone based on their individual need

• Government does not care

• Government does not bend the rules to the situation to help someone

• Government does not dynamically find solutions to problems but can only blindly follow rules, laws and work within legal boundaries

• Government does not hug you when they give you your check

• Government does not wish you the best

• Government does not love

• Government does not want you to get better

• Government does not stay late and talk to you about your problems

• Government does not call you the next day to see how your job interview went

• Government does not see the big picture

• Government does not care if you REALLY need the help or if you would be taking away from those that really do need it...as long as you meet their quotas and strict program guidelines in some way either right or through trickery you get the money

• Government does not care if its doing the 'right thing'.

• Government does not care how this happened to you or want to keep it from happening again

Getting help from your neighbor and caring charities helps, strengthens character, builds communities and heals.

If you really want an education read this heart-wrenching book by a former welfare mother that documents how government is NEVER EVER EVER the solution to providing charity: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787

Calling for the abolition of public relief, Tocqueville cheered private charity for establishing a "moral tie" between giver and receiver.

In contrast, impersonal government relief destroys any sense of morality. The donor (read taxpayer) resents his involuntary contribution, while the recipient feels no gratitude for what he receives and inevitably believes that what he receives is insufficient.

Consider this simple thought experiment: If you had $10,000 available that you wanted to use to help the poor, would you give it to the government to help fund welfare or would you donate it to the private charity of your choice? Which do you think will do a better job?

> You think that taxes are immoral, but how would we take care of those in our society that can’t work or are otherwise impaired?

The most basic answer is that people simply voluntarily come together and find solutions to help those in our community which need help. It should not be done by force at the end of a barrel using government.

Anyone who thinks the heartless compassion-less bureaucratic government who treats EVERYONE like a freaking number, and a statistic on a filled out request form, and which can't make an independent decision based on real need instead of the 'program guidelines enacted by the legislature' is better than REAL private charity is just in denial of reality.

Getting assistance from the government is DEHUMANIZING because,

• Government has no heart

• Government has no compassion

• Government does not help someone based on their individual need

• Government does not care

• Government does not bend the rules to the situation to help someone

• Government does not dynamically find solutions to problems but can only blindly follow rules, laws and work within legal boundaries

• Government does not hug you when they give you your check

• Government does not wish you the best

• Government does not love

• Government does not want you to get better

• Government does not stay late and talk to you about your problems

• Government does not call you the next day to see how your job interview went

• Government does not see the big picture

• Government does not care if you REALLY need the help or if you would be taking away from those that really do need it...as long as you meet their quotas and strict program guidelines in some way either right or through trickery you get the money

• Government does not care if its doing the 'right thing'.

• Government does not care how this happened to you or want to keep it from happening again

Getting help from your neighbor and caring charities helps, strengthens character, builds communities and heals.

If you really want an education read this heart-wrenching book by a former welfare mother that documents how government is NEVER EVER EVER the solution to providing charity: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787

Calling for the abolition of public relief programs, Alexis de Tocqueville cheered the large amount of private charity he saw in his tour of America for establishing a "moral tie" between giver and receiver.

In contrast, impersonal government relief destroys any sense of morality. The donor (read taxpayer) resents his involuntary contribution, while the recipient feels no gratitude for what he receives and inevitably believes that what he receives is insufficient.

Consider this simple thought experiment: If you had $10,000 available that you wanted to use to help the poor, would you give it to the government to help fund welfare or would you donate it to the private charity of your choice? Which do you think will do a better job?

Anyone who thinks the heartless compassion-less bureaucratic government who treats EVERYONE like a freaking number, and a statistic on a filled out request form, and which can't make an independent decision based on real need instead of the 'program guidelines enacted by the legislature' is better than REAL private charity is just in denial of reality.

Getting assistance from the government is DEHUMANIZING because,

Government has no heart

Government has no compassion

Government does not help someone based on their individual need

Government does not care

Government does not bend the rules to the situation to help someone

Government does not dynamically find solutions to problems but can only blindly follow rules, laws and work within legal boundaries

Government does not hug you when they give you your check

Government does not wish you the best

Government does not love

Government does not want you to get better

Government does not stay late and talk to you about your problems

Government does not call you the next day to see how your job interview went

Government does not see the big picture

Government does not care if you REALLY need the help or if you would be taking away from those that really do need it...as long as you meet their quotas and strict program guidelines in some way either right or through trickery you get the money

Government does not care if its doing the 'right thing'.

Government does not care how this happened to you or want to keep it from happening again

Getting help from your neighbor and caring charities helps, strengthens character, builds communities and heals.

If you really want an education read this heart-wrenching book by a former welfare mother that documents how government is NEVER EVER EVER the solution to providing charity: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787

Calling for the abolition of public relief, Tocqueville cheered private charity for establishing a "moral tie" between giver and receiver.

In contrast, impersonal government relief destroys any sense of morality. The donor (read taxpayer) resents his involuntary contribution, while the recipient feels no gratitude for what he receives and inevitably believes that what he receives is insufficient.

Consider this simple thought experiment: If you had $10,000 available that you wanted to use to help the poor, would you give it to the government to help fund welfare or would you donate it to the private charity of your choice? Which do you think will do a better job?

Here is the problem with most modern Christians. They are LAZY, and just want government to do the work so they don't have to get their hands dirty helping in their community.

Anyone who thinks the heartless compassionless bureaucratic government who treats everyone like a freaking number and a statistic on a request form, and which can't make an independent decision based on real need instead exactly following the 'program guidelines enacted by the legislature' is better than real private community run charity is just in denial of reality.

Getting assistance from the government is DEHUMANIZING because,

• Government has no heart

• Government has no compassion

• Government does not help someone based on their individual need

• Government does not care

• Government does not bend the rules to the situation to help someone

• Government does not dynamically find solutions to problems but can only blindly follow rules, laws and work within legal boundaries

• Government does not hug you when they give you your check

• Government does not wish you the best

• Government does not love

• Government does not want you to get better

• Government does not stay late and talk to you about your problems

• Government does not call you the next day to see how your job interview went

• Government does not see the big picture

• Government does not care if you REALLY need the help or if you would be taking away from those that really do need it...as long as you meet their quotas and strict program guidelines in some way either right or through trickery you get the money

• Government does not care if its doing the 'right thing'.

• Government does not care how this happened to you or want to keep it from happening again

Getting help from your neighbor and caring charities helps both the giver and receiver, it strengthens character, builds communities and heals.

If you really want an education read this heart-wrenching book by a former welfare mother that documents how government is NEVER EVER EVER the solution to providing charity: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787

When Alexis de Tocqueville was touring early America to see how it was different than Europe, and after seeing community charity in American society he started calling for the abolition of public relief himself in France, Tocqueville cheered private charity for establishing a "moral tie" between giver and receiver.

In contrast, impersonal government relief destroys any sense of morality. The donor (read taxpayer) resents his involuntary contribution, while the recipient feels no gratitude for what he receives and inevitably believes that what he receives is insufficient.

Consider this simple thought experiment: If you had $10,000 available that you wanted to use to help the poor, would you give it to the government to help fund welfare or would you donate it to the private charity of your choice? Which do you think will do a better job?

Diane Pagen intro:

She's a social worker. She thinks it's insane to try to help poor people without giving them money.

(She gave a presentation this weekend that will blow you away: https://twitter.com/2noame/status/572013592335273985)

She got turned onto basic income from reading: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787/

"All the welfare workers coming up behind me are being preened to do this lunacy."

First of all lets compare to a government program.

Anyone who thinks the heartless compassion-less bureaucratic government who treats EVERYONE like a freaking number, and a statistic on a filled out request form, and which can't make an independent decision based on real need instead of the 'program guidelines enacted by the legislature' is better than REAL private charity is just in denial of reality.

Getting assistance from the government is DEHUMANIZING because,

• Government has no heart

• Government has no compassion

• Government does not help someone based on their individual need

• Government does not care

• Government does not bend the rules to the situation to help someone

• Government does not dynamically find solutions to problems but can only blindly follow rules, laws and work within legal boundaries

>Take, for example, the case of a poor person who has a job offer. But she can't get to the job because her car battery is dead. A government welfare program can do nothing but tell her to wait two weeks until her welfare check arrives. Of course, by that time the job will be gone. A private charity can simply go out and buy a car battery for that person, while someone else needs a totally different sort of unseen help.

• Government does not hug you when they give you your check

• Government does not wish you the best

• Government does not love

• Government does not want you to get better

• Government does not stay late and talk to you about your problems

• Government does not call you the next day to see how your job interview went

• Government does not see the big picture

• Government does not care if you REALLY need the help or if you would be taking away from those that really do need it...as long as you meet their quotas and strict program guidelines in some way either right or through trickery you get the money

>Because eligibility requirements for government welfare programs are arbitrary and cannot be changed to fit individual circumstances, many people in genuine need do not receive assistance.

• Government does not care if its doing the 'right thing'.

• Government does not care how this happened to you and want to keep it from happening again

Getting help from your neighbor and caring charities helps, strengthens character, builds communities and heals.

If you really want an education read this heart-wrenching book by a former welfare mother that documents how government is NEVER EVER EVER the solution to providing charity: http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Kindness-Dismantling-Welfare-Poverty/dp/0871135787

When George Washington warned that "government is not reason, it is not eloquence--it is force," he was making an important distinction. Government relies on force and coercion to achieve its objectives, including welfare.

In contrast, the civil society relies on persuasion--reason and eloquence--to motivate voluntary giving. In the civil society people give because they are committed to helping, because they believe in what they are doing.

Thus private charity is ennobling of everyone involved, both those who give and those who receive. Government welfare is ennobling of no one. Alexis de Tocqueville recognized that 150 years ago.

Calling for the abolition of public relief, Tocqueville cheered private charity for establishing a "moral tie" between giver and receiver.

In contrast, impersonal government relief destroys any sense of morality. The donor (read taxpayer) resents his involuntary contribution, while the recipient feels no gratitude for what he receives and inevitably believes that what he receives is insufficient.

Consider this simple thought experiment: If you had $10,000 available that you wanted to use to help the poor, would you give it to the government to help fund welfare or would you donate it to the private charity of your choice? Which do you think will do a better job?