don't worry dude, the other 99'11" of this line is still good, no need to rip it out
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Crimper-Connector-Network-Crimper315/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518894673&sr=8-3&keywords=ethernet+kit&dpID=51DjZejC9oL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch should have everything you need for under $15 - will sort you out perfectly.
It took me about 20 minutes to learn to use the tools, and now whenever I need a short cable I can just make one. Boot split and frayed? Who cares, I'll just replace that bad boy, no throwing out the entire run for me. Drilling through a wall to feed a cable outdoors, how will the plug fit? No problem. So convenient as a future-proof ability to have under your belt.
Unsurprisingly, excellent instructions for dummies like me are incredibly prolific on the internet, including lots of great YT videos
As others have mentioned the interference from multiple unshielded cables right next to each other will be slowing your entire network down right now (loads of dropped packets and failed attempts), so I agree this is more /r/techsupportgore than MacGyver. Fix this right and everything will be significantly less laggy, plus you only gotta buy cheap tools once and then you're set to be able to make incredibly low price Ethernet lines wherever you live for the rest of your life
The guy above didn’t bother completely reading your post or has little knowledge with Ethernet cables. The cable you bought from Home Depot contains stranded conductors which are meant for patch cord use. This means that the cable can tolerate being moved around constantly because the conductors are flexible. As a result, these cables should not be used for long distances, in-wall, or terminated to a patch panel or keystone jack.
You should look into purchasing CMR or CM rated solid copper conductor Ethernet cable from Monoprice or other similar reputable cable manufacturers. Don’t go on Amazon and purchase the first cheapest spool of Cat6, make sure the specs are good. CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum) conductors are not acceptable.
As for the termination, watch YouTube videos on how to do it. Most devices will auto negotiate regardless of what standard you used. However, I would recommend using the B standard for every cable you may terminate. This is a good kit to start out with.
This^^^^^^ except for WTF with your T568b standard being backwards as f. EVERYONE (ya know, everyone) knows it as orange-white, orange, green-white, blue, blue-white, green, brown-white, brown!
All kidding aside, even a cheap test kit from Amazon complete with RJ45 terminators , punch down tool and crimper are phenomenal!
This is the one I purchased and it works great: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_9204JVNTRGSEHC3ZEQP1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Go to YouTube to figure out how to use a punch-down, crimper and RJ45. The tester requires male connectors, so you will need to make (or buy) and plug in some small male to male ethernet cables for your test. Short length cables are generally called patch cables cuz the big boys use hundreds on their network switches and they are less than a foot in length.
Assuming you’re not constantly plugging and unplugging your cables, it’s unlikely HDMI interference or your router is causing your Ethernet cables to break; however it does sound like your Ethernet cables are of crap quality.
Either crimp new RJ-45 connectors at both ends or buy better quality cat 5 or better Ethernet cables.
Something similar to this should help you out:
https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Crimper-Connector-Network-Crimper315/dp/B008UY5WL0/
If you haven’t done it before, as someone who just did this in a new house and was a noob, it’s straightforward to put Ethernet connectors on, but it’s very fussy. I went through about 30 connectors for 3 cables and had to keep cutting the ends off and meticulously re-crimping before I got them right. Get a crimping tool that comes with a simple cable tester (just lights that blink in a series to show the connection for each wire). This is the cheap one I used:
UbiGear Cable Tester +Crimp Crimper +100 RJ45 CAT5 CAT5e Connector Plug Network Tool Kits (Crimper315) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_LebqFuhO9wsHP
Here is a cheap kit you'd need to cut, cap, crimp your cable. If you're interested in running your own cables a kit like this is a good thing to have.
UbiGear Cable Tester +Crimp Crimper +100 RJ45 CAT5 CAT5e Connector Plug Network Tool Kits (Crimper315) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ghHFBbBPTHDE2
While you could put a keystone on the other end and then use a short Cat6 cable to connect to the AP, I'd recommend doing it this way instead:
So I completely eliminated the WirePath panel. The tv is plugged into a wall panel and then the cable runs from the wall panel through the house's plumbing and into the master panel. It used to be plugged into the WirePath but I unplugged all those cables and plugged them right into the switch. Do you think the RJ45 is not crimped correctly at the switch or the wall panel? Should I go get a something like this and redo the panel and connector at switch?
There's this RJ45 cable tester that's a part of this kit (crazy how popular this model is), if you don't have one and if you just moved in, you might find it useful to double check to make sure the cabling is "correct", and that all 4 pairs/8 wires are actually working.
https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Crimper-Connector-Network-Crimper315/dp/B008UY5WL0
I had a friend like this at one point that owed me some money and got annoyed at me when I'd ask him for it back every couple weeks or so. Said something to the effect that I had more money than him so I could "afford to" let it go. He eventually paid be back but tried to make me feel guilty for it. The moral of the story is don't loan your friends any more than you'd be happy to lose.
As for your CAT5 dilemma. If you still pity this boy enough to help him. Get a CAT5 Crimper and turn that 30 meter cable into a 28 meter cable and a 2 meter cable. They are a handy thing to have around. Depending on what you do with your home network it's nice to have a cable that's just exactly the right length or the ability to thread a cable through a tiny hole.
...You can also use a cable as garret if this narcissistic tool thinks you owe him something.
It's actually super easy, and pretty inexpensive, to convert them for ethernet.
>I guess I'll settle for an ethernet wall adapter to bring connectivity to my other room.
If you're talking about "ethernet over power" adapters, those are extremely terrible devices which should be used as a last resort. All you'd need would be a 10 pack of these, one of these (you only need one of 'em, but this is a two pack), and maybe a couple of these (if the ports on the wall aren't already RJ45). Youtube videos will help you with crimping the RJ45 ends onto the cables in your wall cabinet. You could even pick up a length of Cat5 cabling pretty cheaply (Lowes / Home Depot / Ace Hardware / Menard's etc should have this in stock) to practice before you work on the cabling in the apartment. Stick the old wall plates back on the wall when you go to move out and the landlord will never know what happened, especially since the cabling in the cabinet isn't even connected. :D
I bought a Ethernet/phone cable tester with a crimping tool and few other things in a kit a few years ago on Amazon for around $16. The tester worked fine - Tester Kit
I used the tester that came with this kit, and it passed. I'll order that though, as it seems a lot better than my current tester
If I wanted to just crimp on new plugs, would something like this get the job done?
Or would you recommend something else?
Would something like this work?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_YqDSFbNJ2DC6T
Wouldn't it be better to end it with a male end instead of a female end or is there a specific reason for that?
I used this one and it was my first time - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008UY5WL0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
any brand that is 4k, has ONVIF so you can mix n match stuff from other companies...not stuck to 1 company for everything, POE IP cameras, free P2P for mobile remote viewing without any monthly fees.
right now, Amcrest cameras check all those boxes and low price. sure there are plenty of others with more features and more expensive. but for me, amcrest is the best bang for the buck.
start building a camera system for your house and friends so you can understand what's going on. if you mess up, your family n friends wont be too hard on you. buy some tools like CAT5 crimper to practice making your own cable and terminate for outside cameras. get cable tester to verify the cable is not damaged or cut in the middle somewhere, this kit has all that i mentioned https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Crimper-Connector-Network-Crimper315/dp/B008UY5WL0/
ipcamtalk forum has tons of help from others. https://ipcamtalk.com/forums/
this sub does not seem to be very helpful as ipcamtalk.
good luck!
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My concern for latency would be just for gaming, I know wifi has come a long way but I still just prefer the rock solid stability of a hardwire to get the absolute peak performance from my connection.
The crimper I bought from amazon came with two units that you put on each end of the cable to test if the crimp was successful.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008UY5WL0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$19.97 on Amazon and you can even get 100 ends and a testing tool. I use this one around the house even though I have much better ones at the office
Thank you so much for such a detailed reply. Really Appreciate that!
Checked the wires again and its honeywell 5078 4PR24. A quick search shows me the below item
So I believe its 24 AWG and solid config? I was planning to order the below from lowes for the wall. I assume it should fit?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Legrand-Plastic-CAT5e-Ethernet-Wall-Jack/50122191
I was also planning to pickup the below tool from amazon which also has RJ45 plugs that I will need for the other end of the wire (to connect to a router or switch). I assume this tool can also be used to punch down on the ethernet wall jack (above lowes item)? Or will I need a different one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_x6tMEb2DR2EE6
I guess I will stick to 5e or 6 for the one extra line I need. I dont think I will need more than 1 Gbps any time soon. Current internet is only 200 Mbps : )
Thank you again for such a detailed reply!
I have everything in my media center. The biggest thing I did to clean it up was custom cut-to-length ethernet cables. You can get the tools to do it yourself quite inexpensively, it's easy to learn, and it makes a big difference. Plus, then you'll get the itch and re-wire everything in your house.
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Unfortunately a lot of the power cables are non-standard so it's harder to get different lengths. I have a cable management box that I shove a power strip and all the power plugs into, and then velcro all the cables into a bundle to run to the hubs.
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Quick Guide on custom cables:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX17FF47deI
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Toolkit on Amazon:
(Note: This only includes cable ends, but you can do what I do and cut up the longer cables you already have to make shorter cables, instead of buying cable stock... until you need more)
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Cable Management Box:
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I'm sure sure what you mean. Are you using keystone jacks, or just making your own male connectors with a crimper?
You need four connected wires in total, because if you have something like 6 functional wires in there instead of 8, your network equipment might try to negotiate at gigabit, and it won't work. Whereas if you have 4 wires at positions 1,2,3,6, it'll go straight to 100mbps, afaik.
Edit: If you were using a pre-terminated cable that you are now modifying, you'll need buy a crimper.
That box with all that stuff in in that you call the "home network system" is not a network system, it is a telephone and cable tv system, you need to convert it to a network system. Telephone systems use 4 wires, ethernet uses 8 wires.
Correct so far. you need to get a crimper this one comes with ends so you dont need any of those.
Then you need to remove the lines from the junction box that you want to hook up to your network, as they are being used as phone lines right now and crimp the cat 5 ends onto the cables following this guide.
Also you will need to remove the cover plates and make sure that all 4 pairs (8 wires) are connected to the wall jack.
Then connect the newly crimped wires in that closet to the router and plug a device into the wall jack and you should have internet there at the wall jack
Consider yourself lucky that whoeever did that used Cat5 cable instead of Cat3 or just telephone lines. at least i'm assuming those are cat5e cables. what does the jacket of the cable say? it should say either cat3 cat5 cat5e or cat6 on it
Edit: clarification
your build is good, I'd spend the money on the wired network.
for $60 you can get all the tools you need and a 1000' spool of CCA network wire
most people would recommend going with solid copper wire but that will blow your budget, i've used this cca and it works. I wouldn't use it for POE runs ofcourse.
Yep.
Ok, get yourself a kit like this, http://www.amazon.com/Wild-us-Tester-Crimper-Connector-Network/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1428285654&sr=8-4&keywords=ethernet+connectors
and go to town on it. You'll need the pinout for the cable: http://www.bb-elec.com/Learning-Center/All-White-Papers/Ethernet/Cat5e-Cable-Wiring-Schemes.aspx
Note: You're trying to make a "patch" cable, not a crossover cable.
That's so much more work than cutting it and crimping on a new end... crimper kits are actually pretty cheap.