What is Reddit's opinion of Ubiquiti EdgeMax EdgeRouter Lite ERLite-3 512MB Memory 3 Ethernet Ports Router?

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> ERL3 is hardwired only.

Interesting, I was going by this page that shows Wireless N. Thanks again for the tip and additional context around deployment scenarios. Much appreciated.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

I knew we'd need something to manage QoS. Are you thinking along these lines? I'm sure I'd rely a bit on my outside techs to get it going.

Have you had any experience w/ VOI? Issues? Seems to me, with the last couple of phone providers I've had here "best effort" is about all we get no matter what line the calls are riding. In such a small firm (11 people) I don't want to have to manage the hardware, or access to it, on-site.

External resources are almost a non-issue, but yes, that's a good point to keep in mind. I think there's only one for me to remember.

With the low bandwidth requirements for voice I'm thinking cellular as a backup could at least let us get calls from the courthouse or whatever, and I could have everyone use their own cell phones for outgoing calls during an emergency until the main connection was back up.

Convert the Asus to AP only mode and get an Edgerouter Lite for the internet facing router piece. It's better to separate the roles IMO especially with faster pipes.

Thanks for the quick reply! As for more questions, I guess my major one would be "What EdgeRouter do you think would be the best to support my needs?" my needs/setup being:

• 2 Manages switches
• IP cameras (would be on switches)
• Wireless AP (I guess this could go on a switch too)
• Homelab (this has a dedicated switch)

That's about all I can think of. I guess I could probably go for this router since If I put everything on the switches, then I really only need 3 ports, one for the WAN and two for the LAN.

Thanks for the help!

> Do you know if we could pay to upgrade to the 200 series network boxes? Are those even out in the field anywhere? I'd love to abandon the crappy 100 series interface.

Do you have the TV service with the Network Box separate from the Storage Box? If so, Good News! You can use your own router/gateway. A buddy of mine uses the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite, a basic multiport gig-e switch, and a couple Ubiquiti APs. There's a really simple config to get this up and running.

What will your speed be? 50Mbit, 100Mbit, Gigabit?

If it's going to be 100Mbit or faster take a look at the UBNT EdgeRouter Lite. I can pass traffic between VLANs at nearly 900Mbps. It handles my 100Mbit internet connection without issue for several computers and various devices.

The catch: The ERL is not a simple device. Some prior knowledge of networking and configuration will be needed, or at least the willingness and capability to sit down and learn how to set it up.

It also doesn't have built-in wireless. If you have an existing wireless router you can set it to AP mode and just use it for handling your wireless clients.

> I wondered if it's possible to re-configure the router in such a way that one of those ethernet LAN ports could act as a WAN?

With a proprietary firmware, very unlikely. I would suggest looking into a http://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K or a pfSense device if you're feeling adventurous.

I'm not sure exactly what problem you're trying to solve by replacing the router, but this will do tagging and routing of VLANs on the same port (using 802.1q tagging).

http://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K

You'll obviously need a separate access point for your wifi and presumably you've some sort of switch for the rest of your network?

I think the ERL might be my best bet with IPSec. 100Mbps sounds good enough. Although I do have a question about the ERL. On the ubiquiti website link the model sold looks different from the one on amazon link . Would I be fine with getting the one on amazon?

Not all that much. A Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite is $90 (or just shy of it) on Amazon, and it is by far the best router for that kind of money. It does not do wifi and only has 3 ports, so you would probably need a switch as well.

An 8 port D-Link managed switch (DGS-1100-08) is a great little 8 port managed switch for only $50 (a normal 8 port gig switch runs about $30).

That should be all you need to get most info you want, but you can even extend this to the access point (AP) and get a Ubiquiti Unifi N or any of their models based on your needs.

 

I would honestly start looking into the software first, as it will need some getting used to and might be a bit much for the home user. Unfortunately there is no easy to use software that will give you a lot of info about every client on your network.

 

You can also look into pfSense, which is a free router OS with a lot of flexibility. It has addons that you can install to give you a better graph of what is going on in the network.

This link has a number of modules / software that can be installed on pfSense to watch network traffic. Naturally ti will not do as a comprehensive job as the stand alone software (Observium) but it might be all you need.

Sure, here is a link to their dual wan setup guide.

EdgeMax is their line of routers, they all use the same OS, here is the link to the wiki.

And here is the Amazon link if you want to help me out with a small kickback :).

$91 for a gigabit internet capable ER-Lite$52 for a similar model which still supports fairly high internet speeds

Take your pick of any unmanaged gigabit switch if you don't need VLANs etc, i.e. This solid $22 8 port TL-SG108

Want solid WiFi too? UAP-AC-Lites are pretty cheap at $77 for what they give you too

$151-$200 to have a solid network that will last years doesn't seem too expensive to me.

The point about it not being easy does apply for that AP, you do need to run some software to initially configure the AP (that you don't need to keep running unless you have multiple APs and you want it to force your device onto the closest AP), you can however probably find a different AP that works out the box and skip all that.

The rest are easy though, The gigabit switch is plug and play and the EdgeRouters just need you to use a setup wizard on their web interface.

I have a Ubiquiti Edmax Lite. If your not an IT person it may be a bit much.

Ubiquiti EdgeMax EdgeRouter Lite ERLite-3 512MB Memory 3 Ethernet Ports Router https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CPRVF5K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uaY7AbQ0HFJRK

I have Verizon FIOS gigabit internet and I too had the same router you did and I had lag. I purchased the EdgeRouter Lite 3 port router and all my issues went away. Heres the link to the site https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ Heres the link to the amazon page I ordered from https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CPRVF5K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 My setup is EdgeRouter 3> Netgear Gigabit Switch>(2) Google OnHubs one on either side of my house and this setup works well. All my other machines are hard wired to the Netgear Switch. If you do decide to get the EdgeRouter 3 make sure before you disconnect your old router that you release the DHCP lease and then unplug it right after that way when you plug the new router in it will pull a new DHCP lease. Also I'm assuming your have Ethernet from the ONT? Hope this helps :)

To get those routed packets flowing at sweet gigabit speed for cheap, check out Ubiquiti's Edge Router Lite. Running gig internet at gig speeds.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

Ubiquiti EdgeMax EdgeRouter Lite

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeRouter_Lite_DS.pdf

Not PFSense, but this still makes a good $100 firewall with 3 gig ethernet ports, no wifi.

You mean wireless access points. You don't use consumer wireless routers in a business unless you want laughable range, speeds, and respect levels.

Get Ubiquiti gear.

https://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K - The router.

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512 - The access points.

Setup the controller software on a spare PC. You can easily enable and customize the captive portal.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-System-UAP-AC-LITE-US/dp/B015PR20GY/

Combine a good wired router with a good wireless access point. Add more as needed to extend coverage and improve range.

You can get the pro versions of the access points if you want dual radios and ethernet pass-through.

It doesn't actually have that range or speed. The 5300mb/s figure assumes 100% speed out of all 3 radios. A wireless client connects to 1 radio and usually at 50% rated speed or less. 1gb/s isn't out of the question but you can't get anymore. You might ask why and I will tell you its because the ethernet ports are only 1gb/s, you are line limited.

Get yourself a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and 2 or 3 UniFi AC LR AP.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K/

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-System-UAP-AC-LR/dp/B015PRCBBI/

Wireless speeds will be consistent, the range good, and the WAN-LAN throughput will be fantastic. Add a network switch and some more wireless access points to extend coverage as needed.

To fill you in on the Ubiquiti side, what you'd want is the Edgerouter Lite (or ERL) as the router. It's fast, powerful, will let you do a LOT if you want to learn how, but also comes with easy to use setup wizards to get you going out of the box. Then for wireless, you pick up one (or more, if your house is big or weirdly shaped or whatever) Unifi access points and connect them via Ethernet to the ERL (or a switch). For most people, the Unifi UAP-AC-LITE is sufficient, but you could also upgrade to the Long Range or Pro model.

you have to do bandwidth management so that means you have to buy a router that has bandwidth management.The cheapest one is Ubiquiti Edge Router Lite

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

a nice tutorial of setting up bandwidth management using your edge lie router

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Edgerouter-lite-bandwidth-limiting-per-ip-address/td-p/1150905

just go router only, in a month there going to replace it anyways and then you can decide if replacing that one with a fiber compatible model will be worth it. as for router recommendations now, I personally would go with a Ubiquiti Edgerouter Lite, add on a gigabit switch and a Ubiquiti Unifi Ap Ac Pro

now, if you are a plug and play kind of guy the edgerouter may not be for you but you would be hard pressed to find a better router for anywhere near the money. if you want something a little more network newb friendly here is a pretty damn good list of excellent routers that will have no trouble at all with your sonos amps (and a lot more)

edit: if you go the ubiquiti route the folks over at /r/ubiquiti are very knowledgeable and friendly

get a Ubiquiti edge max lite router .it has the best management interface you could ever want if you donot want to start installing ddwrt and the likes of pfsense

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

Absolutely not. Go with Ubiquiti if you don't mind a little extra setup work for much better results.

EdgeRouter Lite.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K/

Three pack of wireless access points.

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-3-Pack-UAP-3/dp/B00HXT8RDI/

This is a great answer. +1 for the Ubiquit AP mention and the edge router lite. A lot of people do this setup!

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446323314&sr=8-1&keywords=edge+router+lite

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-LR-3-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B005SHQ644/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1446323334&sr=8-3&keywords=ubiquiti+ap

Okay, first your description of what network neutrality is, is correct at least in the dictionary sense. No, network neutrality does nothing to prevent an ISP from jacking rates anytime they please. The initial problem for a lot of people was this: Netflix as a content provider was already paying a service provider for their bandwidth, users are already paying their service providers for bandwidth. Providers should not be allowed to charge "extra" because Netflix occupies more bandwidth than other content providers since they have already paid for their share of bandwidth. There is a legitimate discussion in whether or not Netflix should be charged more in some capacity since they send more data, but that is complicated...

Bandwidth is not a finite resource in the traditional sense. Once I have a connection of some capacity it is always present in a way. I don't have to expend anything to provide that bandwidth. What is often perceived by the user to be slowness might actually be network congestion, which is not that the data is suddenly "so big", it's just that there is a lot more of it. The connection to you is still the same speed, however. This slowness can be solved by more quantity of or more powerful equipment at the ISP's end. They can also do various other things like throttling or traffic shaping to keep the volume of data low enough that things keep running smoothly. The routers and switches and other stuff can't keep up with how much data is going back and forth.

So now you're probably thinking, "okay, exactly, in order to serve more people more data you need more infrastructure". The problem with that though, is that the network technology available has far outstripped the pace at which ISP's are implementing it or allowing you to access it (funny how AT&T can suddenly have 1gbps available when Google fiber comes to Austin, isn't it). And this is before we even talk about cable companies providing internet. They have a vested interest in preventing you from having good Netflix service. Why? They are a direct competitor in the form of CATV. Is the reason cost? You might be able to make that argument for something like fiber which is a more complicated technology than say, copper coaxial or what I worked with, RF/wireless. Network technology has never been cheaper, though. What is available to the consumer and the provider today is incredible compared to where we were when I was working with this stuff. Basically, a lot of ISP's aren't upgrading their equipment, but are charging like they have the most advanced networks in the world.

Let me give you an example, when I was working with RF backhauls, 11mbps of full duplex (full duplex = send and receive at the same time) cost you about 2k$ at each end. So one link was about 4k$. Well, you can do something like this now. I can buy a million packet per second router from those guys for less than a hundred bucks and that is just one company and one example. So we have halved (or more) the price and exponentially increased the bandwidth/capacity, so why haven't consumers seen a lot of benefit? Well, some ISP's have done some upgrading or improving, but others haven't (I am at least moderately confident that some of those 11mbps backhauls are still in use). This gets us into a whole other ball of wax, peering...

I didn't work with this part of the business, so I only have what I've read, but from what I understand, here is what happens. Say you and I both own ISP's. A user on my network wants to get to a user on your network, so we agree to set up a link between our networks so our users can get to each other. This is the essence of peering. Well, what if I make that link really slow, or don't give it enough capacity to serve all the users who want to access each network? Then you have what happened with Netflix. Traditionally, peering is considered beneficial for both networks since both sets of users had access to each network's resources. So should Netflix have to pay for more bandwidth? Even when it is the users of that ISP's network who requested Netflix's data in the first place? Netflix is just lobbing data that other networks have requested onto the network that they pay to access (their ISP). Why should Netflix or users be responsible for the crappy link between ISP 1 and ISP 2, whether that is due to a physical limitation or a synthetic one (remember our old pal throttling and traffic shaping)? Netflix also offered to provide their content locally to bigger ISP's on their network to reduce overall network load, but I am not familiar with all the details of that. Read up on Netflix's Open Content Delivery or some such.

So now a bit of industry history. A lot of people are angry at ISP's because we did pay for that infrastructure already. Read some of this or this. When you combine this with the exorbitant prices we pay for the crappy bandwidth we get, you might start to understand why this all seems like a joke to a lot of people in terms of infrastructure cost. Oh, not to mention that there are even places where these bigger ISP's have made it practically illegal for local or municipal ISP's (I am fortunate enough to have access to one of these, 1gbps for 99/month, so it can be done) to compete and other generally consumer unfriendly behavior.

The profit margin is insane. These ISP's are making money hand over fist using old technology, and in many cases don't upgrade at all or do it very slowly. There isn't some big pool of bandwidth out there that I have to take from to provide to you. I just set it up and it's there. For coax, it may already be there in a lot of cases (read about this). You just need a little bit better packet handling. Or they could just give users what their networks are actually capable of.

In my opinion, you could combine fiber rollouts or hybrid fiber-coax to high density areas with RF for rural areas and do it for far less than the amount of money these ISP's are making and what we have given them. I don't think a national average of 250mbps in 10 years time is unrealistic, but I doubt we will even come close to that.

Now take all of what I have said with this in mind, I haven't been a part of this industry for almost ten years now. I've also simplified a lot. I try to keep up with it when I can as I love technology, but I wanted to put this out there publicly so that people who are more up to date can correct me if necessary, but I am fairly sure that's the thrust (it's also late and I am sleepy). Like I said, it is a complicated issue. Thanks for reading if you've made it this far.

*Edited for formatting

Why recommend Unifi stuff over the Edge lineup? (Honest question)

Ubiquiti ERLite-3 - ~$90 - http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-48-500W - ~$760 - http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeSwitch-ES-48-500W-100-240VAC-Universal/dp/B00LV8YY34

If you don't need POE you can get the EdgeSwitch Lite for ~$420 - http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-ES-48-Lite-EdgeSwitch/dp/B013JDNN3K

That is one option. You can buy hardware to run it for ~$200, or you can buy hardware with pfsense on it, which will run you $300+. If you're not very technical, however, I would advise against it.

I would suggest:
-Ubiquiti Edgerouter Lite
http://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K/
-Ubiquiti Unifi AP(you can just keep adding more of these if you need to cover a larger area).
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B004XXMUCQ/ref=pd_bxgy_147_text_z

It's super easy to setup and all manageable from one console.

Here's some deals. Any router with a Gigabit Internet/WAN port and N300 wireless or better would work.

I use a Edgerouter Lite Wired Only Router and a crappy N150 router in Access Point mode while I wait for 802.11ac access point prices to come down a little bit.

So you're saying use this... http://smile.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428876280&sr=8-1&keywords=Edge+Router+lite

I'm not too familiar with how to power the AP through the Router, would I need to get something in addition to be able to do that? I see they have a different router that seems to do this standard?... http://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-ERPOE-5-EdgeRouter-Adapter/dp/B00E77N3WE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428876134&sr=8-1&keywords=Edge+Router+POE

Should I just get a cheap WAP in the meantime?

I'm just guessing on the amount of APs needed. Im currently running a Netgear wireless router that covers most of the house (if only poorly in some areas). It's currently located all the one on one side of the house, so I'm thinking if we get a good WAP installed right in the center, that should cover the majority of it. Then the outdoor AP to cover the backyard and shed.

Ill keep that in mind about the patch panel, but the house isn't huge. I was already considering 16 to be "room to expand".

If you want a hardware router that is inexpensive but featureful, you may consider something like the EdgeRouter Lite

EdgeRouter Lite ERLite-3 512MB 3 Ethernet Ports Router https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CPRVF5K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_w12fvb16HPYV7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CPRVF5K/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_w12fvb16HPYV7

Great routers, but not for people who hate CLI. These routers can do a ton if you're willing to learn the command line. Seems to be a ton of user support and technical documentation out there too.

tedu@ just did a blog post on a 90$ router that supports OpenBSD: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/OpenBSD-on-ERL

The router in question: http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

I have been hesitating to pick one for myself, they look pretty sweet.

edit: lol did not see that you posted the link in your post. Why isn't that OK for you ?

I would recommend to go with pfSense.

If you like proprietary systems, try http://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K/

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