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No, these are garbage.
For a five gallon bucket, 30 watts of high end COB or a 50 true watt UFO LED will be more than enough light. This UFO light will get the PPFD (photosynthetic photon flux density or the light intensity used in botany) up to 1300-1400 umol/m2/sec in a five gallon bucket (tested) which is all the light that a plant can use without CO2 enhancement.
[link] I used this and coiled a string of LEDs around just above the top of my pot.
Electricity cost will depend on what lights you use, but it's usually not very much for a single bucket. I have a "150W" UFO light plus 5 meters of LED strip for side lighting, and two PC fans. All together it draws about 75 watts at the wall. At a US average rate of 13.3¢/kWh, that's about 1¢ per hour. Almost all of that is lights so call it 18¢/day for an 18/6 light schedule, or about $5.50 per month. Note that some providers charge more for electricity used during peak hours. In that case you can set your dark period to occur during that time.
Bottom line, it's really cheap to operate a spacebucket even if you do pay your own power bill. You can grow an ounce or more for about $20 worth of electricity plus $20 of supplies (seeds, nutes, etc). Even factoring in equipment cost and the need to buy supplies in bulk you will still break even compared to buying dispensary weed after only a few grows.
UFO Led Grow Light, Growstar 150W Full Spectrum Plant Light with High Par Value Cree COB and Switch for Indoor Plants Bloom Flowering and Growing [link]
This is going to do well for your seedlings. You're going to want to get that light about 4 inches away or so.
This is a popular UFO that I have tested for safety and performance, and will work well with a five gallon bucket. I would not use it for more than 1 square foot.
I didn’t want to mess with wiring, so I cut the top of a bucket off, flipped it upside down, cut a circular hole in the bottom to rest this light on it. UFO Led Grow Light, Growstar 150W... [link]
That light seems like a gimmick to me and very doubtful it puts out anything near 200 watts with a blurple puck. Granted, I don't know enough about it / have never seen it used (which only lends to it being yet another piece of questionable garbo)
I was able to find the NON KNOCKOFF UFO150 in UK though.
Careful as I saw a TON of knock offs. You can tell the knock offs as they are half the price and do NOT have the cree white puck in the middle.
> I’ve been reading growweedeasy but still not sure
Be careful because there's a lot of bad information on that site. I'm a frequent critic of Nebula Haze for being a copy/paste hack.
At 18 inches away this type of 50 watt true light will have a PPFD of around 150 umol/m2/sec (if that was a white light it would be around 10,000 lux) directly under the light (light in the open and not in a bucket orf with reflective walls) which is good for a seedling. In a bucket you can be twice this which I would still use for a cannabis seedling.
Use the UFO light and not the ring light or by the window.
Sorry for the delay. I thought that I had included this in the post.
Hey everyone, I have been learning a lot from this sub but I'm not having much luck applying the knowledge. I have now made two attempts to grow some Lemon Pie CBD. As you can see I was not able to get them past ~ 3-4 inches. It seems like one or both are flowering. The old plant was planted almost 2 months ago. The new plant was planted 3 weeks ago. I thought fungus gnats were to blame for the first plant but controlling them for the second didn't seem to change much. In general they were grown similarly:
Thanks. I only started looking at those strip lights because of this thread.
By grow lights you're talking about something like this UFO LED right?
Thanks, my full build is on my last post... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07312WKX2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Hey everyone! This might look long but the TL;DR is - What soil and nutrients do I need for my first grow (beginner friendly)?
**I get no kick backs for these links at all and, honestly, haven't used any of these products yet so I am not endorsing or reviewing them**
I'm looking to start my first grow this week. I have a few questions, though.
So I'm going to be building a pretty standard space bucket from 5gal buckets. I bought a UFO Grow Light, some cloth bags, a few 80mm fans, timer, power switch, etc.
I'm looking to grow from some seeds that I purchased. The strain is Dos Si Dos 33. I chose this strain because I filtered some options on a vendor site and this matched most of what I thought I'd want (easy grow, photoperiod, relatively strong, decent avg yield).
My questions mostly center around soil and nutrients. I've probably watched 4-5 hours of videos just on this subject (and many more on growing indoor/in space designs), but I can't seem to grasp what I need to learn. I'm worried that I'm over thinking things.
If I were to germinate in a paper towel or peat cup and then move the seedling into my cloth bags what soil should I use? I don't mind spending a little bit of extra money to get good soil or plant food/nutrients, but I don't want to overcomplicate my first grow. I'm sure that I can grow to some degree of success in just about anything, but I've been looking at Fox Farms Ocean Forest. If I use that should I need additional nutrients or additives? Will it carry me through the whole grow?
Thanks for reading. :D
I got this LED. Someone else on this sub suggested it.
I my 5-gallon bucket setup, I use a Growstar 150W UFO LED for veg and the 300W version for flower. Since these lights are round, they work well in a bucket, though the 300W is a bit too big to move up and down within a bucket. As a result, I use spacers to give me more height when needed.
Provided you're using a traditional 5gal bucket, this is probably your best bet.
Yes, this style of light works well in a five gallon bucket has a history of doing well in a five gallon bucket.
First bucket ever. I've lurked here for years on my main account. I was gifted a clone for Xmas, so I built a bucket. I have the side lights and fans on a separate, removable ring. Other than that, I follows the "simple template" pretty close. Lemme know what you think. Here's what I used.
150W UFO Light by GrowStar
2 Phanteks PC case fans
4x 5gal Lowes Buckets
~3 Rolls Gorilla Tape
12v 4a power adapter with splitter and female jack cinnector
5050 SMD LED Strip lights - White
53 bucks on amazon
This post you linked is extremely helpful. Especially when considering safety, which is one of my most important factors to consider. You also mention this light in your post:
I am also using that light as well in my tests. As well as:
As I said, the yield results are nearly identical, but more testing is needed. ALL of these lights will burn the plants if they get too close, so I have laser cut a shield out of transparent acrylic and placed it 4 to 6 inches from the canopy of the pants in my lighting enclosure. That has dramatically cut down on light burn. This was one of the reasons I posed the question about lighting.
Judging by your past post, you obviously have extensive experience in this area. Based on the lights you have tested, in your opinion what is the best light considering price you would recommend in a small enclosed space like a bucket?
Also, I will be digging into this article this weekend regarding this topic:
Thanks everybody for your advices, it's my first set up so I need these. I come from France so it's not easy to find the exact same product than in the US and for a cheap price.
So here is my list for this bucket (can help my fellow Europeans) :
- UFO 150W Growlight : https://www.amazon.com/Growstar-Spectrum-Switch-Flowering-Growing/dp/B07312WKX2
- Fan USB AC infinity : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00IJ2J2K0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- LED strip : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B018UGBD7O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Mylar film : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07K7KKSSX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Spray glue : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B01LY96BAS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Mechanical electric programmer : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B005O1AQE0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Duct tape : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00F3BNYXG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- 5gal/20L Bucket (not the best but it works) : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B08BCBRG9G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Plant bag : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0895QWD8J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Substrat : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0090HODGQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Humidity/temperature controller : https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4001104854438.html?spm=a2g0s.90423188.8.131.52e7d6c37v7bRbS
For the tools I had only a cutter and a Leatherman knife.
>So far I couldn't really find any on the reviews that would deter me away from purchasing it.
Take Amazon reviews with a few pounds of salt.
I tested the smaller version of this light and here is a shot of it off my spectrometer. The smaller one had a draw of 55 watts from the wall.
The light you linked to should be adequate. Most all the claims about it on that Amazon link should not be taken seriously (it does not go to 380 nm, for example, nor would it need to). This is a common type of mass produced light and people then just have their own label slapped on. I doubt that's a true Cree COB.
This light is not UL listed or "approved".
I would not bother with that strip and just get a white one.
>The adapter has an output rated for 12 Volts x 2Amps = 24 Watts
Many white LED strips will have much more power. Some are closer to 60 watts.
>The adapter puts out a LOT of heat
If this is a 24 watt adapter and you are drawing 40 watts then you need to unplug this and get a different adapter. You have a potential fire hazard going on here.
The buckets I used are 20l (5gal) buckets, which I glued milar sheets to the inside and duct tape to the outside.
For lighting I bought a cheap Ufo light off amazon with "150 W" (something like this.
The exhaust is done by an inline duct fan (240 m^3 /min or 4 cfpm) that I fixed to a carbon fliter with duct tape. The duct fan is probably far too strong for my build, but this way I don't have to worry about a fan to circulate air inside the bucket with an additional fan. My fan is similar to this and my filter to this.
I opted for a passive intake for my build, just making holes twice the area in sum as the exhaust and made them lightproof.
Additionally Im thinking about making a second spacer and adding some side lights this week. Hope this helps :)
"150w" and "300w" is marketing that really means nothing. You want to go off the true power draw and keep in mind that the electrical efficiencies of the LEDs used in cheap lights might be close to half that of quality LEDs like the Samsung or Bridge COB LEDs.
Generally speaking, a 50-60 watt true UFO LED light is all you need for a five gallon bucket and anything more is superfluous due to limitations in photosynthesis efficiency at extremely high lighting levels.
I don't endorse this light but I have tested this light and it will work very well in a five gallon bucket.
I don't play much with LED strips (I use different setups) but something like this:
This is the one I'm using as many growers have recommended it for these smaller scale projects.
this is the one. Any recommendations for a decent budget replacement?
Yup, a UFO in a five gallon bucket will work for all phases and is enough light for a plant.
Don't get hung up on a specific UFO light. Most are the same or fairly close enough to the same but just with different labels. This is a popular light that I have tested and it is sold by numerous resellers.
Stay away from this style of light. The ones I tested were dangerous and about 30% less efficient per true watt. They also only draw about 20 actual watts.
Even the lower end LED grow lights are going to be far superior to CFLs. A UFO style light is about $50 and perfect for a five gallon bucket grow.