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Yes, I've been told this as well. Unfortunately, I had already bought the Noctua cooler by the time I heard about the Ventroo cooler. I'm not sure about performance on that one either.
Here it is for those interested.
its a step up from the stock cooler. any 120mm tower heatsink is going to be like $20 and the rest of what you're paying is for fans.
this is probably a better value right now at $25
That's pretty high. I can guarantee you that getting even a 30 dollar cooler is going to help a ton. I benchmarked an older i7 that previously had temperature issues using prime95 and was maxing out at 65 degrees Celsius. It's worth the 30 dollars to just get one of these: ventroo v5. It's well reviewed
Random note your cpu cooler is totally overkill. There’s been a lot of hype recently surrounding the Vetroo V5. HardwareCanucks and Jayz2Cents both reviewed it very highly. Save yourself $55
Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM Processor 150W TDP Fan Intel LGA 1200 115X / AMD Ryzen AM4 Universal Socket w/Addressable RGB Lights Sync(V5, Black) [link]
You could also just use the stock cooler and be fine.
first, you should buy an aftermarket cpu cooler. something inexpensive like the vetroo v5 seems like a good option
but for airflow, it all depends on your case. if your case comes with like 3 fans, like the be quiet 500DX, then you're good with what comes with your case. if your case just has 1 rear exhaust, it would help to add a couple
The stock cooler on the 5600X is not good enough, really. You'll be leaving a ton of performance on the table with it.
Try to secure a cheap/free Wraith Prism cooler from another user/builder who don't need it - I often see this happen, where they have aftermarket solutions and don't want the stock one at all.
You could also get a better cooler. Others have recommended some budget options, like the Arctic Freezer 34, but you can also try the Vetroo V5, which was reviewed by Jayztwocents and performed quite well.
Alternative, you could spend more for more, get something like the be quiet Dark Rock 4, or the big daddy NH-D15, the NH-U12S, or the NH-U14S, all of which comes in chromax.black.
I just used this for my stock 5600x and it is pretty damn quiet in my rig
The CPU is great, the 11400F is fantastic for gaming. Yes, the cooler is terrible as you'll find in most prebuilts, but I don't think you'll reach thermal throttling. If you want more comfortable temps, I'd highly recommend the Vetroo V5 - highly efficient and a great price.
PSU's included in prebuilts tend to be kind of crappy, but honestly if you aren't doing any overclocking or high-power-demand tasks on this PC then it should be fine.
ABS is Newegg's own brand. They're among the better value brands when it comes to prebuilts, the other being Skytech. This one in particular looks pretty good in terms of value.
All in all, pretty good compared to other prebuilts out there.
Looks great. The A2000 is a great drive at that price, the upgrade to a SN750 or 980 would be ~$150. Much better than the cheaper SN550 as the A2000 has a dram cache.
My only tiny suggestion would be to grab a Vetroo V5 for $40 instead for the CPU cooler, the extra heat pipe gives you better cooling overhead. However I have heard that the fan can spin up to be a little loud so the beQuiet cooler might be a better option if you aren't stressing the CPU much.
> Vetroo V5
it seems available on amazon.ca but more pricy than 212 black rgb: [link]
Also the 212 seems to be on sale +/- once per month or 2 months so I would probably grab it next time I see it on rebate
I would recommend wiring the fans into a molex connector like another commenter pointed out.
Also, get a tower cooler for the cpu. I know you're stayed for cash at the moment, but even a $25 tower cooler will be a big upgrade over the stock heatsink. Maybe you could get a used hyper 212 for cheap locally. Or something like this for $30
Don't get an AIO, they are inferior to air coolers at any reasonable price point. The Arctic Esports 34 Duo cools like a beast and is 45 dollars. Another good one is the Ventroo V5 which is 30 dollars. Just installed it on a system with an i7 6700k, bench marked it for 5 minutes with Prime95 and it pretty much held steady at 60 degrees Celsius, kissed 65 degrees for a split second and came back down.
Linus tech tips did a video on air coolers vs liquid coolers and overall, air coolers won by a decent margin. They are also simple and easily fixable while an AIO will eventually die. Jayz 2 cents did a review of this thing and it beat his 250mm aio by like 7 or 8 degrees Celsius.
Use the extra money to ask for 2 things for your birthday or something lol
No, didn't make much of a difference for most people
Looks good to me
This 120mm fan cooler is 148mm in height [link]
Yes, the 5600x is a low power draw cpu and the power supply you have selected is high quality.
Maybe yes maybe no... Hard to say without testing although it would most likely be fine. More fans could allow for lower speed and noise and lower temps though
Ensure your side fans are set to intake. You should be able to see the motor side of the fans and not just the blades. Or just take the side panel off and feel the airflow. Unfortunately the CPU heatsink is woefully undersized and ill-equipped to handle that processor. You need to buy a new one and install it. It's easy. Check YouTube for CPU heatsink replacement. There's this great one on Amazon for cheap that's actually a great bang for buck one.
Check out Jayz2Cents video on the Vetroo cooler. Super value, great cooling, wonky mounting. Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM Processor 150W TDP Fan Intel LGA 1200 115X / AMD Ryzen AM4 Universal Socket w/Addressable RGB Lights Sync(V5, Black) [link]
Hey all, JayzTwoCents did a video on the Vetroo V5 air cooler back in February and I'm considering getting it, does anyone have any experience with this cooler? Thanks!
yeah, a simple tower cooler is more than enough. like this one looks nice and is affordable
Here’s a cheaper similar cooler if you want [link]
I'm not sure what you mean by quality, but different CPUs produce different temperatures depending on the number of cores and manufacturing process. However that is less important than having a good cooling solution. A good liquid cooler will keep even the hottest CPU under 60C. Your factory cooler's performance is terrible and upgrading to something cheap like
will improve your temps significantly. However in your case I would recommend buying a new CPU regardless because the 3400G will really bottleneck the 3070 which is a very sad sight.
Here’s another similar cooler to the 212 which you might be able to get for cheaper than the 212(mine has a $10 Amazon coupon showing up) [link]
It was just reviewed by Jayztwocents so you can check out that vide on it if you want
This is another similar one [link] it’s not from as big a brand, but youtuber jayztwocents just reviewed it and liked it
Do you know how the Vetroo V5 compares to those other ones you mentioned? It's a noticeable price cut below the others but appears to be essentially the same general design.
Yes it has thermal issues and only comes with one stick of RAM. Here’s a parts list I used to solve both those problems.
Cpu cooler $30
Fan splitter $9:
Intake Fan $4:
For the intake fan you’ll need to remove the hard drive cage at the front, which is easy to do.
The white fan in the image gallery is the intake I added. The smaller fan next to it I pulled off the cpu cooler that came with the dell. You can’t screw them in, just secure them with zip ties. You can also buy a second 92mm fan to replace the exhaust if you’d like, as the exhaust that comes with it is only 80mm.
You can sell the RAM that came with the computer for about 40USD on eBay once you replace it.
Also reinstall windows to remove their bloatware.
Vetro v5, five heatpipes, in black or white ARGB, performs close to this and is currently 25$
Yes. Do clean install, replace CPU cooler with this, exhaust fan with this and you are good. Both work out of the box.
Vetroo V5 CPU Coolers for $19.99
I upgraded the cooling for thing for ~$50 and it runs very cool and fast. You could put an AIO in there but I am very happy with my air cooler.
Ventroo v5 screws right in
I keep wanting to reach out and spend more money, which is a sign I should stop, take a deep breath and sit on myself. So taking another look, three roughly $-equal quibbles and the one big question.
1) So this thread commends your choice of the MSI, but recommends the Aorus Pro motherboard for $10 more. Having built 2 Aorus cases in the last 3 months, I would agree with that choice unless there's a specific reason you want MSI or $10 is actually back-breaking.
2) For example, you could make up the $10 with a Vetroo V5
3) Why are you buying a 6-pack of 120mm fans when your case takes 3 140s? Actually for that matter, why are you buying a $60 case and $43 worth of fans when you could buy the P400a, a $90 RGB case that comes with 3 120mm RGB fans and slap a $10 Arctic P12 on the back for exhaust for the same price.
Or if you want to keep the P300a, get 3 P14's ($10 each or a 5-pack for $32) and slap a Phantreks Halo ($12 each) on all of them if you want the RGB.
Re the storage question....
Spinning Rust is actually bad. You should only be using spinning rust in 2021 for capacity reasons or "I know that I need sequential cold storage" reasons, probably on the long end of a network connection (NAS). The best investment you can make is moving from spinning to even SATA SSD for random read reasons. For $50 more....
1) Toss that drive and up it to a 2 TB NVMe SSD of the same model. (Preferred, don't think about storage locations at all)
2) Grab a Sata *SSD* for $100. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073SBQMCX/
You'll thank me when it doesn't take a full minute for certain game levels to load.
Rock on. The Vetroo V5 and the Aresgame are both listed as $30 now, but frequently drop to $20-25 on ebay, etc.
I love this computer. It’s a great deal and is serving me well.
I agree. Get a good ~$40 air cooler to make it a happy chip. Jayztwocents has a lot of good things to say about this guy:
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thanks so much for the guide. I was able to update to microcode 0x40 using this. I didn't run any before or after benchmarks.
I've already modded the case by adding 3 120mm fans (was $5.59 at prime day and they are decent fans - https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/o73qw3/fan_3pcs_3in1_black_case_cooling_fan_120mm_quiet/) . I'm also adding the vetroo v5 cooler ($28 after coupon https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F21X2VP ) which another redditor recommended for this case, and some cheap RAM heatsinks just for completeness (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073QKMH4 - $10.99).
This is the guide someone posted for taking apart the case. I didn't have to go nearly as far, I never disconnected any cables and was able to pop off the front and top to screw and ziptie the 3 new fans: https://imgur.com/a/O5VdWuY
Between the microcode update and all of the updated cooling for less than $50 I think I came out ahead for this build
Highly recommend the Vetroo V5, works great and fits easily in the NR200. I have one in one of my builds and it works amazingly.
If you want a good value rgb cooler, the vetroo v5 would work well with that cpu.
I bought a dell XPS which had similar problems and this is how I fixed it.
A Ventroo v5 ($27 on amazon) will fit your cpu and greatly improve thermals. It comes with thermal paste.
There is probably a removable hard drive bay at the front of the case you can take out and zip tie some fans up front. I reused the small fan from the cpu cooler as one of the two intakes I installed.
Get a 3 way 4 pin fan splitter ($8 on amazon) since, if your mobo is like mine, it won’t have enough places to plug in your fans.
Any ddr4 RAM should fit that motherboard
Looks good, for the cooler there are better options that are also cheaper.
My choice would be the ventroo v5.
An even larger/better option would be the aresgame
But since it is larger, it may not fit in your case. You’d have to confirm the dimensions. The ventroo v5 is more than enough cooler for your cpu though.
yes on the cpu cooler since this one thermothrottles. the vetroo for $20-25 will let you get max performance. there's a video from dawid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej89Y1kpFBo
Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM Processor 150W TDP ... [link]
a cpu cooler upgrade wouldnt go amiss. like the vertoo v5 would be sufficient, or hyper 212 black, or be quiet slim 2. [link]
if you want a bigger upgrade, and a more expensive one, you can get a 11400F and a b560 motherboard [link]
16GB of memory would be good, probably just replace what you have. 16GB kits of 3200mhz are $80.
[link] all in all, heres what i advise. plus if you can get your hand on a 3060, 3060ti, or 6700XT for under $500, that would be great. or a 2060/2060super for ~$400
This $30 cooler that is suprisingly good
The Ventoo V5 is the current darling of the budget cooler market. It's performance is surprisingly good.
you can add it if you want. i was just showing an example using less characters. you can even get away with just:
that is probably the shortest url you can use without using a link shortener.
you can actually go even cleaner:
Works great on my 3600.
Saw it recently on a jayztwocents video and figured I'd give it a shot, nothing crazy but a ton of value for the money
You might want to look at the Vetroo V5.
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Veetro V5 if you're on a tight budget.
There are other options which cool better or run quieter but this cooler really is a great value at $25-30 (Newegg / Amazon)
I cut costs a bit down to this:
You're not overclocking, and you don't have pcie Gen 4 storage, so an A520 board will do fine. Slightly less expensive RAM, SSD, PSU. Still all roughly the same quality.
In terms of right now, this will do fine. With a 1650 you can stick with the stock fan configuration. If you end up buying a 6800xt though, I would add fans to the bottom and upgrade your GPU cooler at that time too.
Nice upgrades would be faster 3600C16 RAM, 1TB drive (which you'll feel more necessary once you start installing more games), and the CPU cooler and fans I mentioned.
Here is a list with all my suggestions, just to see what that would look like. You can pick and choose to do some, all, or none of the changes.
Well, one of the 4 pins definitely snapped off. I'm wondering if I should get this for $27 used?
r/bapcsalescanada and r/bapccanada are good resources for component sales and build help respectively.
The 11400 is an excellent CPU but can be really hard to find at msrp in stock in Canada. The whole 11th gen lineup has been out of stock since a few days after launch and the 11600k/11700k has just started to come back into stock. It should be about $240-250, don't pay much more than that (amazon has it for $370!!). If you're considering paying $370, it makes much more sense to grab a 5600g for $330 which has a much better APU, or the 11600k for the same $370 for faster clock speed. You can also look at a similarly performing 10600k for $280 which will function about the same as the 11400.
All the intel 11th gens run hot and the stock coolers are crap so you'll need an upgrade. I'd grab the Vetroo V5 for $40 while its in stock/on sale (available in black or white). It's an excellent cooler. A cheaper alternative is the Gammax 400s which is only $20 but will be struggling a little bit and likely result in higher fan speeds and thus more noise.
The Corsair 4000D airflow is another case with similar looks to those two, but it also does not have an ODD bay. Very few modern cases do. The one that comes to mind is the full size NR600 or the micro-ATX NR400. The beQuiet Pure Base 600 might also work, but as the company name suggests it's focus is on quiet operation and not airflow. Still, solid quality case so it might be acceptable to you. You may have to look on amazon or kijiji for older or off-brand cases, I'd be sure to find a mesh front or side intake to facilitate cooling.
For the same price I'd grab the 500gb NVMe SN750 instead of a 250gb drive. Not sure whats going on with the $190 1tb SSD but that's just wrong, 1tb A2000 NVMe (cheapest with a dram cache) is like $117
Are you committed to building ITX? That's costing you a lot extra in the motherboard cost. If you're sticking with ITX, I'd look at the NR200P which is an excellent case for $80-90 right now (normally like $130+, comes with a riser and an optional glass panel so more options for the future). Unfortunately it would require a SFX PSU which also raises costs as well.
Might as well grab the X570 Aorus Pro from MemEx for $235, overkill but cheaper.
5600G could run well on a Vetroo V5 for $40.
500w is fine if you're certain you're not going to add a GPU in the future... I'd look at at least 650w so you can drop in a 3060ti when prices get back to normal. Either way, I'd probably pay $10 more for a plat efficiency A-tier, or a little less for the 550w Seasonic Focus Gold A-Tier.
This is how I would build it without going ITX: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yXFYMv ($925)
Would this fan work?: [link]
So I would replace the fan in there with this one? I am a beginner..
I cannot recommend this bad boy enough [link]
My bud runs it on his build and while gaming temps are around 40C.
Cool ARGB too! And quiet enough. 28 bucks…
Vetroo 5, has RGB, quiet and similar performance to noctua’s.
Currently less than 30 bucks with that 2 bucks off.
80°C is not hot... if you wanna drop your thermals, try using an aftermarket cooler. If you want a 20°C drop cheap, I suggest this 1.
Vetroo V5 CPU Air Cooler w/ 5... [link]
List of things to buy for this system:
Vetroo V5 - stock cooler is completely inadequate for the 11400. This cooler fits fine with the wonky mounting. https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F21X2VP
Additional fans- stock airflow is mediocre, one single 80mm isn't great. You can add some 92mm fans (supported stock in the rear and with jerryrigging up front) to alleviate this some. 120mm is doable up front with a 3D printed part.
New RAM- 8GB in single channel is a joke if you're trying to game. This system should support DDR4-3200 speeds with the 11400, so you can also get a bit of a speed bump. Team T-Create Classics run 3200c22 without XMP and are fairly affordable. [link]
Spend the $30, it'll be 100000% worth it. Look up jayz2cents on the review of the cooler i linked.
Here. Like other people have mentioned there is a fucking gigantic shortage at the moment, to the point that not only the pc industry has been affected but even the automobile industry, TV industry and Phone industry have suffered. Good news though, things are getting better.
The processor is a core i5-11400, great processor to performance, 6 cores, 12 threads, does well in gaming, generally considered as a great value/budget processor. The vetroo v5 is a great budget RGB cooler. You can buy it from Amazon for $40. It’s got 5 heatpipes and a fan so performance is good enough that it made itself into the top three in this roundup. The motherboard is a dirt cheap B560 board. On top of being the second cheapest it’s quite good for its price. You get a good upgrade path including 4 memory slots, 2 M.2 slots and 6 SATA. It’s VRMs are fine if you disable power limits so you won’t experience throttling and stuff in terms of power delivery and or overheating near the MOSFETs and stuff. The Asrock RGB software is ass but you can always use jacknet or something and at $113 there are little boards that provide this much value.
The memory is pretty fast, 3600MT/s CL18 isn’t quite as fast as CL16 but it’s better than 3200MT/s by a bit. It’s also got RGB and looks really pretty IMO. The SSD is a sort by cheapest pick, it’s dirt cheap with rock bottom pricing but it actually performs surprisingly well, though for gaming and general use this isn’t too important. You can also grab a 500GB SSD/2TB HDD setup. For the graphics card, your really looking at the best you can get for your budget. An rtx 3060 ti 8GB will be ideal, it’s an excellent performer and great value for $400 USD. It’s meant to cost like $550 CAD, not really the case. You can also look at the rtx 3060 though it is quite a step down from the 3060 <strong>ti</strong> and should cost $330 USD. AMD is also releasing their rx 6600 xt for $380 USD, no idea how that will perform but you can look out for it when it launches.
For the case, the one I went with is cheap, and has RGB fans and the airflow looks decent. There are tons of other options though, look into the phanteks P400A/P360A, lian li lancool II mesh and lancool 215 and the cooler master TD500 mesh. Those ones are all also good. You can just take a browse and see what you like. The power supply is the cheapest 650w gold certified fully modular PSU. Also a really good model too. It’s made by CWT, who also makes PSUs for Corsair. It’s got an A tier ranking here and 4/5 stars from toms hardware and a highly recommended from Techpowerup. 650w of power should be enough for all the GPUs you should be considering. A great deal for its price and much better than the competition can offer not just with its aggressive pricing but also with its great performance.
Anyways. That’s it, enjoy.
Something like these should be fine for you:
Yeah, if op wants rgb I would get the vetroo v5 for $8 more
Yup, the one I included in the list should be fine.
This one on Amazon should be fine too, and it has a black finish as well as RGB.
I don't know how big you need, but this is the most recent budget brand name: https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F21X2VP/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=vetroo&psr=PDAY&qid=1624302255&s=prime-day&sr=1-2
edit, also check out ID-Cooling and Gelid
Also, that cooler looks terrible. Even something affordable like this would be a big big upgrade:
FYI, you can get a good air cooler that is better than a stock cooler for $20-$25, so intel not coming with a stock cooler shouldn't matter.
Just keep an eye out on /r/buildapcsales. I personally bought this for $25, though it went down to $20 for a short while after mine had already arrived. CPU idle temps 35-37c, under load 70-75c. This one also regularly goes for $20 and seems to be the same performance as the one I bought.
If you are not hard against the prospect or had planned on upgrading the r5 3600 to a 5600x or otherwise down the line, then yes, replacing the cpu with a 11400 or 11400f and replacing the motherboard with a b560(like this) will increase performance a fair bit(PL= power limit, aio= aftermarket cooler).As well as getting a better cooler like a 224xt, gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 or any other 5 heatpipe copy.
You would have to set up some settings in the bios, like the cpu power limit and memory XMP. So you'll wan to watch some vids on how to do that if you don't know yet.
I got the white version, myself.
This one? Amazon
This one is good. Few small things:
Overall, the changes look like this - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpBNwz
u/ahtMishell let me know what you think :)
nice choice with the 11500. It has a better igpu then the 11400, so it should provide a slightly less crap experience. Though it really is quite slight, but considering the market, may be worth it.
The s12III series are prone to coil whine, in part to the dual mag amp secondary design. So if noise is a concern, you may to give it a pass. I'd personally look into the evga BQ as a minimum, though it being double forward on the primary side can also be prone to coil whine, just not as common as the s12III.
I'd personally shave a few bucks off and opt for a gammaxx 400 v2, or vetroo v5 air cooler.
Here is a good one on amazon that's readily available in black/white.
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That's the one I got. Brought my 5600x from 59c to 45c idle and never went above 60c on warzone paired with a 3070
I can't tell how much of a difference a new cooler will make, but if you're looking for a cheaper alternative consider this CPU Cooler that JayzTwoCents reviewed yesterday that was able to cool a 5900X.