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for your other post: that cooler is non-customizable. just constant rainbow. get a vetroo v5 instead [link]
besides that, all your rgb will work fine. you'll need to use 2 separate apps to control it, Icue and MSI's
For the water cooling, it’s not a custom loop, it’s just an AIO and it’s ridiculously hard to mess up. All the tubing and such is already connected and there is generally no risk of leakage due to the AIO often being tested in the factory. You just need to mount the pump onto the CPU, slap the radiator on the roof and slap on the fans onto the radiator and it’ll work with zero risk of leakage. If you do decide to downgrade, I would consider a core i9-10850k and Asus Z490 prime for a great value system if you are near a microcenter where you can get that processor for just $300, otherwise just the R5 5600x. If you do decide on the 5600x, pair it with the vetroo v5 and slap on a cheap rear exhaust fan for the case.
My bad sorry, Vetroo V5 White CPU Air Cooler w/ 5 Heat Pipes 120mm PWM Processor 150W TDP Fan Intel LGA 1200 115X / AMD Ryzen AM4 Universal Socket w/Addressable RGB Lights Sync [link]
I got this one for $27 awhile back. I'd keep an eye out for a good deal on one here on this sub, you don't need a crazy good cooler for this pc. First time using an aftermarket cooler, only used stock before. Pain in the ass install for the fan but it works great.
I’d swap the cooler for this one since it lets you control the lighting and will cool a little better [link]
I don't know anything about the cooler you posted, but if you don't want to deal with Newegg, the Vetroo V5 from Amazon has some pretty great reviews and frequently has coupons for up to $6 off (that I've seen in the last month or so). The white one linked currently has a $2 off $29.99 coupon, but I grabbed one last week with a free ARGB LED light strip (normally $10) on a promotion they had listed further down the page along with the $2 off coupon.
>34Posted byu/millhauser16 hours agoKeyboard[Keyboard] HyperX Alloy FPS RGB Silver Speed Switches - $55 ($55
It has a $4 coupon so its $25.99 atm
This one is cutting it very close at 148mm dimensions but check this guy out. It works incredibly well, tested it on an older i7 6700k and it topped out at 65 degrees Celsius on prime 95 for 5 minutes, but held at around 60 degrees.
definitely an airflow problem then. do you have your computer crammed against the wall? is it on carpet? how many fans do you have set up right now?
even a budget cooler like this will help a lot
With these CPUs I would personally go with an aftermarket. The stock is fine, but I feel like you are probably leaving some performance on the table if you aren't doing everything you can to keep temps low so that the CPU can automatically boost as high as possible. For relatively little cost you can really bring out the potential, might as well right?
I got this Vetroo after seeing it in a jayztwocents video. It was only $30, it is white, and it seems to do a great job. I'm pretty convinced that any reputable air cooler would do what you need it to do though.
I would get a tower cooler. The stock coolers included with the cpus are anemic and don't allow the cpus to perform at their best. If you want to save $10 compared to the h212 rgb, check out the vetroo v5 on amazon
I just got my XPS, and the upper half of the front panel is solid plastic (is the G5 open at the top, or is that just the pattern with solid plastic behind it?). I'm not sure if I'd get any benefit mounting a 120mm there. Unfortunately, my GPU is too long to mount an intake fan at the front, so all I've got is the tiny 80mm one at the back :(
As you said the CPU almost thermal throttles itself at 50-60W load, so I'll probably look into some sort of aftermarket cooling for that at least. Hopefully it'll help as the inside of the case is super hot after running the PC for a while (and even the exterior is hot to the touch). I'm considering the white Vetroo V5 that seems to be pretty popular as a budget cooler. According to the reviews, people said it can mount in the XPS 8940. Nobody will see it due to the solid white panel, but the white does match nicely IMO.
The vetroo v5 air cooler pretty much outperforms all similarly priced tower coolers, so I'd drop the gammax 400 for the v5 instead. It's cheaper as well.
Use the remaining finds for the gpu. It's highly unlikely that you will get a 3060ti at msrp, but good luck anyways.
The cpu fan follows something called a fan curve. Like when the cpu is 40°, the fan runs at 50%; when the cpu is 50°, the fan runs and 55%; etc. The fan doesn't measure the clock speed of the cpu to determine its speed, just temp.
There is benefit to keeping a cpu extra cool: it can boost higher and for longer. Higher clock speeds mean more heat, and the cpu has specific instructions to slow down its boosting if it exceeds a certain temp (there's also a time limit that some boards enforce and some boards don't by default). This is like the little cousin of thermal throttling, where the cpu will tank below it's base frequency if it passes ~100°.
Replacing a stock cpu cooler is often worth it just to get lower noise levels. Something basic like a $25 tower cooler is a massive improvement compared to the stock soopers of both amd and Intel. [link]
The esports cooler is just fine for the 3600. Check out this cooler, half the price (with coupon right now - $25) and awesome reviews even from Jayztwocents - Vetroo V5
I do also want to note that the cooler you mentioned, the Vetroo V5, often goes on sale for $25. I actually ordered one yesterday with the $10 off coupon. For half the price of the Fuma 2, I took the plunge. Going to use it on a 5800x I have arriving soon.
Hi, just a thought, not sure if you're interested in tower coolers but the Vetroo V5 is on sale on Amazon for $25 in both black and white. it's got an argb fan on it. I just ordered on. Don't know the brand and haven't had a chance to install it yet but it seems to have decent reviews and I imagine will still outperform a wraith. it's one of the shorter towers coolers out there at 148mm tall, so not quite as squat as an H7, but shorter than a Hyper 212.
Just an idea, I prefer the aesthetic of the wraith prism but the prism's cooling isn't stellar. It's fine but gets loud once it needs to ramp up under load.
Edit: I'm personally going to try to switch out the fan with a different rgb fan I have laying around since my mobo only has 12v rgb headers, not argb
Also available on Amazon for $29.99 with a $5.00 coupon for anyone that prefers to shop Amazon or has Prime shipping.
Same price on Amazon for <strong>Prime members</strong> after 10$ coupon. I paired this with a $21 - 3 pack of their ARGB fans (OOS for now). Not bad for a super low end cooler + fans combo for a budget white build, ~$46 total.
If you're looking for a super clean low end white RGB build, you can also grab a white case from Amazon:
That's just over $100 for case, cooler, and fans. Not bad. Toss in some white ram (~$60) and PSU extension cables (~$25) and you've got everything you need for a clean white build for under $200, just add in CPU/Mobo/GPU/PSU.
Its a good bang for the buck option. This one is also very well regarded in this sub and frequently goes on sale for under $25.
Would look into building something like this:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU price is Microcenter price and CPU cooler can be found on Amazon (white version)
CPU: The i5-11400 is pretty much the best bang for buck gaming CPU right now at only $170 for 6 strong cores
CPU cooler: Vetroo’s v5 cooler is a steal for $25, with 5 copper heatpipes and also comes in white. ARGB fan included. JayzTwoCents has a review of this cooler on his channel. Want something beefier/more reputable? Consider the Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo in white for $49.99
Motherboard: White B560 motherboard, has wifi, in stock. ROG Strix is a premium product line, so you won’t be missing out. B560 lets you use XMP, so that RAM you have can run at full speed.
SSD: A 1TB NVME TLC SSD with a DRAM cache. For gaming, there’s absolutely no point paying $20-30 more for expensive prosumer SSDs like a WD Black or a Samsung, it doesn’t make much difference to performance at all.
Case: The 4000D Airflow is a well thought out high airflow case, great reviews, good quality, and looks sleek. It’s available at a good price right now after the mail in rebate too
Fans: 3 daisy-chainable white Arctic P12 fans for improved airflow/to replace the black Corsair fans included with the case. Put two on the front and one on the back. If you want to keep the included case fans, just use three of these as intake on the front and move the included ones to the back/top as exhaust
PSU: 750W is more than what this build needs, but gives you some headroom to upgrade the graphics card and CPU down the line. Phanteks AMP line is based off the Seasonic Focus line, which is a great value PSU, gold rated Tier A. Also, being a fully modular Seasonic rebrand, if you are so inclined you could get colored replacement cables from Cablemod or other brands. At $103 after the rebate, it’s a great price for a good 750W PSU. If you want fully white build with white cables, you could pay $40 more for the Corsair RMx White 750W
Mouse: You wanted the extra buttons so I went with Razer’s Naga Trinity to match the rest of your Razer peripherals, but do your own research on mice to find what kind of feel, weight and shape you like. This one is a bigger/bulkier mouse, so I wouldn’t recommend it if you have smaller hands. Has 3 different side panels for different button layouts.
Microphone: Included the Razer Seiren Mini in white as requested
You can save on Windows 10 by just using it unactivated
Yes, if you dont mind the extra shipping time.
I ordered this CPU cooler from Amazon.com for a total of $34.98 USD after discount, shipping, and duties. After conversion, my card got charged for $47.15
As can be seen in the link: same product, same seller, but from Amazon.ca, it would have cost me $69.78
Shipping time would have been the same since it's the same seller from US and CA, but for other items, I now check Amazon.com as well since they have a greater variety of items and prices are sometimes better.
I replaced my stock fans with these, they are really cheap but decent and quiet. Use the coupon and it's like $26 a fan.
The Vetroo V5 ARGB in White and Black also has a $5 off coupon bringing the price down to $24.99 https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F2FS7SR/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=vetroo+pc+fans&qid=1619676903&s=electronics&sr=1-15
Just bought one today for a 6700k. i have heard good things about this cooler.
JayzTwoCents did a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDz-uDKoJo
Impressed you could fit this under $500. Some thoughts:
Overall RGB build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G99YK3
u/lumared take a look and let me know what you think :)
A good 212 alternative is the Vetroo V5, at $25 right now on Amazon. They're basically Scythe's "other" sub brand. The mount is also much less of a pain in the butt than the Hyper 212.
This took a lot of fiddling and finicking to figure out, but I managed to make it work... unfortunately, we're going to have to maximize your budget, and you 100% cannot buy from just Amazon if you want to get the best prices (not doing so would hurt your wallet a lot more.) I have done my best to unify as many things as I could under Amazon, but for some other things you're going to also have to get from Newegg or Canada Computers, for instance this Newegg bundle containing the GPU and the PSU.
$1100 CAD is not enough to get a build that is decent at the entry-level, as it is only around $900 USD and the current threshold is $1200 USD, which just so happens to be a little less than $1500 CAD. However, this build will do all that you want it to do.
CPU: The i5-11400 is a capable 6-core CPU that will be able to run any modern game. It is quite the well-rounded chip and the best for value at the moment in Canada.
CPU cooler: The Vetroo V5 White, available here outperforms a Hyper 212 for a little less. It isn't under Amazon Prime, but I have tried to unfy as may
Motherboard: The ASRock B560 Pro4 isn't the best motherboard out there, but its feature set is excellent for the price and it will certainly support an 11400 with proper cooling.
Memory: Some Silicon Power XPower Turbine, 16 GB 3200 MHz CL16. This is generally enough for gaming besides some specific use cases (this is not one of those. If Sims 4 proves to be lagging down becuase you've overloaded it with stuff, pop in another set of identical sticks for a total of 32 GB and that should solve any issues pertaining to memory.)
Storage: The Mushkin Pilot-E is a fine and often underlooked NVMe - its DRAM cache will improve its performance under sustained loads, and 1 TB of space will be plenty of room for your games. It also offers the best price/GB among the good NVMes for 1 TB, so there's that.
GPU: I'm going off this video for GPU requirements - it looks like the GTX 1650 will handle Sims 4 fine since people were using it with a GTX 780 six years ago, which has equivalent performance. This GTX 1650 is found in the Newegg bundle I linked above, and is a single fan GDDR6 Asus Phoenix model. It will run a little hot as a result, but the airflow in the case I've picked is good.
Case: Unfortunately, I had great difficulty trying to find a pink and white case that didn't cost a ridiculous amount. My mind immediately went to the Silverstone Seta A1 but it only seems to be available on eBay at the moment. I'll leave it up to you whether you want to get it, but it is compatible with everything else in this list. In the meantime though, I selected the Silverstone Fara R1 Pro in white; this case comes with 4 ARGB fans, a mesh front for good airflow, and a clean white color scheme.
PSU: We are limited to the PSU that comes attached to the GPU. The good news is that while its wattage is rather overkill, the Rosewill Capstone G is not an explodey power supply and ranks B-tier on the LTT PSU Tier List, the tier for mid-range systems - so it's actually quite good for a bundled PSU. At 750W, it will allow you plenty of headroom for a future upgrade.
Windows: I have included a key here, it is rather costly though as it is a retail key. I will leave it up to you whether you want to get this or find some other way to get Windows for less
Monitor: I've picked out this Acer Nitro 1080p 144 Hz 23.8" monitor; it's a fairly decent IPS gaming monitor and while the 1650 may not be able to make full use of its framerate all the time, it will be a good driver. Too often I see people cheaping out on the peripherals and monitor after getting a tower that can do so much more.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask!
This looks pretty good, but I'd make several changes.
1) The vetroo v5 performs the same, is cheaper and has argb lighting.
2) OP can also consider the white version of those ram sticks or maybe something with rgb like the team delta rgb white 3600mts cl18
3) A PCIE 4.0 SSD really isn't needed for gaming, like, at all. Even say a Samsung 980 pro doesn't really have a noticeable performance difference vs the Kingston A2000
Vetroo V5 fits with TG and comes in white
I would suggest the following to get you better spec RAM and maintain the white theme for less cost.
your cooler is a bit expensive for what it is. and youre missing the opportunity to add more white into the builds, lol [link]
also you might as well get the white crucial ballistix
the white vetroo cpu cooler
White sleeved cables so you dont use ugly stock cables
There's also the Vetroo V5 if you combine it with a 2nd white fan, the Vetroo has 5 heatpipes compared to the Freezer Duo's 4 heatpipes, which might make a difference? Another option is the Phanteks TC12DX.
Would look into getting something like this, all white build with great airflow and the case dust filters are easy to clean.
Motherboard restocks May 25th on Newegg (can backorder now), and the CPU cooler is available in white on Amazon. [link]
Went for faster 3600MHz RAM as its only $4 more than 3200MHz.
4000D Airflow is a really good case, great airflow and easy to build in. Also added 2 Arctic P12 fans in white that you don’t really need but are nice to have at the front (move the included front fan as top exhaust instead). If you don’t like the idea of mail in rebates, get the Phanteks P360A instead for $73.
Went with a good quality white PSU (so that you get white cables), 650W is enough for a 3060 and even though this is “only” bronze rated, it’s a well reviewed unit with good protections. Also, it’s on sale at $60 with a mail in rebate.
This would be good then:
Alternatively, I’d say it’s worth getting the 2060 with a 27 inch 1440p display for $250 more if you’re willing to spend extra.
I would drop the h212 in favor of a vetroo v5 or id 224xt. Both are cheaper and better performing compared to the h212.
The 970 evo plus is a great ssd. But unless you really need the speed for transferring files across multiple ssd's, I would rather opt for a cheaper nvme ssd, perhaps a 1tb ssd as well as the cost increase is very minor.
You absolutely need two sticks of ram. Running with one stick in single channel mode reduces performance by 20% or more sometimes. Get a 2x8gb kit or otherwise.
You state that your budget is €1000, but you linked a USA pcpartpicker. You can change the region on the top right in a drop down menu on pcpartpicker.
Use the integrated graphics while waiting for GPU supply issues to resolve. RTX 3050 Ti ($250ish) should be out by then, which would be perfect. Otherwise a GTX 1650 Super or 1660 would suffice.
that's not a very power hungry cpu. you'd be fine with something inexpensive. [link]
I had this exact same issue with the stock 3600 cooler and swapped to this one and now temps don’t go above 70.
This isn't on pcpartpicker, but it should be compatible. Argb cpu cooler instead of the solid white led in the list.
The real deal is always in the post, thanks chief.
Amazon link to the V5 for whoever needs it.