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You'd look for something like this for a tent, but obviously to whatever size you need.
For lights, you should try to aim for about 30-40w per square foot. That's actual draw like listed on the light above, not that's Mars Hydro or other Amazon lights that list equivalents. For my 2x4 tent, I use just one of the above mentioned Kingbrite boards.
I have 2 vivo sun tents, they seem to block almost all the light. The corners have a trim that is over the joining seam, so the corners are all very light proof.
Here I found the tent I bought. Look at the reviews.
Very similar to yours. So I thought I was good. Thought wrong.
I do not think using pax in a greenhouse is a good idea. MDF won’t stand up to heat and moisture for very long and would probably be a fire hazard. Why wouldn’t you get something purpose built for this?? [link]
I'm assuming this is the one.
The tent I have has reflective insulation inside of it.
This is all in my garage which is hot and hostile, lol. I have 4 inline fans and ducts so the airflow is filtered and doesn't heat the garage too much. There is no AC involved. Currently the rigs aren't in the tent since I moved the rigs and shelf around. I plan to set up the tent soon and will do a separate post. Feel free to ask me anything.
I'm using this one right now and absolutely love it
Everything is super sturdy, the zippers are high quality and zip really well, and the inside seems perfect. I was originally going to go apollo and save 20 bucks, but i went a little more pricey based on reviews and couldnt be happier.
Never used a gorilla grow tent, but i went with the Vivosun (4'x2') for like $80 and am very impressed with it's quality for the price. Super happy with the purchase.
Edit: Looks like they make a 4x4 version for $120 - that's 2x the area for only 50% more than mine!
Out of all the components that will go toward setting up a good, working tent, lights are by far the most expensive (and important) part.
I'm going to include a shopping list of items from amazon, but this is what I would get.
(get 2, one for intake, one for exhaust)
(get 3-4 of them)
Get several digital thermometers/hygrometers to monitor the environment inside the tent.
Also, get a couple oscillating fans for the inside of the tent to keep the air circulating.
Sorry if the formatting is terrible, got sidetracked for a minute.
(edit) if you have more money to spend, I'd recommend investing in some good grow lights. The ones I linked work, but they're not too good.
Here's a link to a MUCH better one, but more expensive. HERE
If you've got a little cash to throw at this, get like a 2x2 or 4x4 tent, ~400w LED light array from Amazon (or, these days, from Aubuchon), like:
Get some nutrients, like https://www.amazon.com/Fox-Farm-Liquid-Nutrient-Formula/dp/B0155IDR4M
Long term you're probably also going to want to look into adding a hydroponics setup, because working with dirt is kind of a pain in the ass, but I would strongly encourage starting simple and then adding things one at a time.
Note that one bummer with LED lights is that despite being much cooler and more efficient than HPS/MiH setups, they do NOT penetrate well, 18" is about the max you get. So this encourages "screen of green" type growing, where you use a mesh or something to control where the bud nodes are. You can ignore all that and just keep tying the plants down over and over as a first grow, though; most of this stuff will make a lot more sense once you've watched the whole lifecycle a time or two.
⛺️: 4x4 is versatile as both veg and flower.
💡: If you want to go new, reasonably priced and show results look at quantum boards (check out r/microgrowery for advice on which) ([link]). If not, 400w HID (either Kijiji or Amazon options) including Metal Halide for veg, HPS for flower, will work in that size tent, although you should shoot for 50w/square foot (true watts from the wall). Magnetic ballast is cheaper but more cumbersome, digital is more money but can be dimmed most of the time and switch back and forth from Veg/Flower easily.
Ventilation: 4” or 6” inline fan (for fresh air) ($40 Home Hardware, either one), and a 4” or 6”exhaust w/carbon filter on Amazon, depending on what size tent. Couple of clip on fans and an oscillating fan to circulate (might have to mess with the oscillating with space, or get a wall mount one $$)
Random rambling notes:
You can be as frugal or spend as much as you want with this hobby. I did the half and half approach with sourcing my lights on Kijiji ($50 for 400w hps and $25 for metal halide that I wired to remote ballast) with new tent, fans, medium, fertilizers, ph pen (don’t cheap out), and other accessories, and I could say the initial investment was just at about $1000.
I wish I went with a 4x4 to start for shape and heat dispersion (2x4 is fine for 400w in the winter, harder to control during summer and growing two plants into a rectangle can be a pruning job itself ), 2x4 is fine for 2 big girls comfortably, 3 is a crowd but possible. Or you could go SOG growing method and pack more in, but I like to make table top plants as much as possible. I know this grow is in Canada so go ahead and get 1 or 2 cheap humidifiers for vegging during winter (it’s coming :D), but you’ll have an easy time during flower to keep RH low for flower. Summertime you’ll have an easier time w an air conditioned apartment, it should keep the humidity in check as well. Also get a couple of thermometers for the tent, one maybe with an outside probe to keep outside the tent to check during lights out. Also, you’ll find aluminum tape handy to cover pinhole leaks from less expensive tents (Vivosun is affordable, they have great customer service that will compensate any flaws in their tent w pinhole light, or bite the bullet and get a Gorilla or Mammoth tent 💵 💰). Harvesting is another bag of shit to get, hit me up if you want that list.
A 4x4 tent would be fine. Like all hobbies. You aren't going to start with the best. You are going to start at affordable and with experience and your preferred growing style. You will have a better handle on what you want to spend. If this turns to be a long term hobby.
For right now this 4x4 is your standard side.
The place you pick to grow in your home. You want to make sure you have a way to exhaust the air out of the tent.
If you own your home or handy with patch work. YOu can cut a hold in your ceiling or adjacent wall and vent the air thru there.
A 4 inch would be fine as well. But if you get a bigger tent. You already have a fan to support it.
1st time growers. I recommend using a super soil. Something that you can just water and watch the results with out stressing about bottle nutes and burning your plants.
https://www.amazon.com/Kind-Soil-Hot-Product-single/dp/B00S1HRLPQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1548404272&sr=8-4&keywords=super+soil YOu will need a couple things to supplement it. But that for another episode.
You will need to assess the quality of water where you live. Most major cities will post their water quality and treatment online. Most major cities use chloramine to treat the water. Unlike chlorine which can evaporate if left standing out chloramine . Will require a filter to keep from stunted growth or just killing your plant.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KL0JG6/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 If your city just used chlorine. No need for the filter just let the water sit at room temp for 24hrs
As far as for lights. The cheap ones from Amazon won't due. But also you aren't trying to pay the price of a small car either. You want a company that has live people working there and that is US based for troubleshooting and warranty issues.
There are plenty of others lights that other growers will recommend.
If you like to tinker and build. There are number of options for DIY lights as well
for a more affordable price.
I'm going to stop here. Because its will be just alot of nickle and dime purchasing. Thermometer/hydrometer, ph and ppm meters, clippers, wire(if you plant to LST), pots, saucers, etc If you are someone who doesn't have anything. The tab will be more then expected. Sure you can do it on the cheap. But if you plan on this being say a 5 year hobby. You want to put aside 800-1000. Quality equipment matters to your bud and your time.
Do you think that the square style (80inches) is better than the cube style (72inches) tent? I'm thinking the extra height is a boon.
A good inline fan
A good quantum board LED
Are the three biggest things you'll need.
Those aren't necessarily the best items or the best prices nor am I endorsing any of them but just trying to give you an idea of what to look for.
For the light, check manufacturer's specs to make sure it will cover the tents footprint. And also make sure you don't get a blurple light, if you don't know what that is you will after googling led grow lights.
4x4x8 is a pretty decent sized tent and that's what I flower in. I also run a 2x2x4 with a shit blurple as a starting tent.
If smell is a concern you'll need a filter.
Then there's pots, grow medium, nutrients, water, and genetics.
People use different sized pots anywhere from a solo cup to 20 gallon containers or bigger (or smaller!)
For my grows I switch between 3 and 5 gallon pots
There's plenty of different mediums and techniques for soiless and hydro grows but I don't do that so I can't tell ya. I grow in soil. Google best potting soil for growing weed and pick something in your price range. Many people will reccomend not using miracle grow products because of their slow release fertilizers.
I am making the switch from the Aurora Soul nutrient line, a seven bottle lineup of liquid nutrients, to megacrop, a one step dry nutrient that is supposed to be good for all stages of the cannabis lifecycle. There are so many different nutes to choose from, I can't tell you what's the right one.
You'll need a ph pen for testing your water and nutrient mixes.
Oh and some fans for circulating air around tent. Uhm temp humidity monitor and then possibly humidifiers/dehumidifiers.
I'm probably missing something here but I hope this points you in the right direction.
Jk VIVOSUN 48"x48"x80" Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent with Observation Window and Floor Tray for Indoor Plant Growing 4' x4' [link]
$126 - Vivosun 4x4
$129 - Mars Hydro 4x4 (using 3% coupon code)
Vivosun use only 600D canvas. Mars Hydro is only few bucks more expensive & use 1680D canvas (same as gorilla)
VIVOSUN Grow Tent 48"x48"x80" for Indoor Hydroponic Plant Growing with Observation Window and Floor Tray [link]
I follow mr.canucksgrow gaia green regiment and don't want to list it all but it's all on Amazon through his youtube so support his affiliate links I guess
What are you going off about?
I've purchased three different grow tents on Amazon with no issues. Vivosun was one of them and can't remember the other two. It's a tent.. as long as it zips up with no light leaks, who cares?
using a 4x4 from Vivo for 2 years with no issue. You can even change the size of tent you want. Stay away from their fans and lights though. I build my own QB LEDs and upgraded to an AC Infinity fan.
Hey if you are just trying to grow 4 plants I would get a smaller tent like: https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01731MNJE/
or even a little smaller depending how big you want to grow your plants: https://www.amazon.com/TopoGrow-Indoor-High-Reflective-2-Tiered-Propagation/dp/B06XYH28WG/
The light you have linked is very suspect because its so cheap and doesnt have a lot of information. I would skip it because you really want a good light because other than the genetics you're growing the light is probably the most important part for your end product.
I'd pick up a quantum board like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TXFR69M/ it's a perfect fit for a 4x4 tent but it's expensive and if you dont mind waiting a week or two for shipping you could buy a comparable quantum board light set up much cheaper direct from China on Alibaba like this one: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Kingbrite-SAMSUNG-LM301H-quantum-board-mix_62143217457.html
If discretion is required and you dont want someone to smell your garden make sure you pick up something like this: https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Control-Australia-Charcoal/dp/B07B3LG55T/ using this to exhaust your smelly garden air also works to draw fresh air in through your tent vents
I use small clip on fans that I clip to the tent poles
You can also check the grow tent kits on amazon to give you an idea of some of the other things you might not think of like ducting, hydrometer etc but I wouldnt buy those kits because they always have crappy lights.
The hydrometer you linked looks like a controller that you'd connect to a dehumidifer/humidier unless thats what you wanted you can get a normal hydrometer for way cheaper.
Here you go.
In my case, I have to sell my house semi-frequently and grow rooms aren't quite selling features just yet.
The tent is the perfect versatility for me.
Not sure it is possible to make something perfectly sealed when it's doors are zippers and the vents are velcro and little bungee cords.
This is the tent [link]
4x4, it was a cheap amazon tent but the only thing that I have noticed so far is a few small pin holes of light where some stitching got messed up.
VIVOSUN 48"x48"x80" Mylar... [link]
VIVOSUN 48"x48"x80" [link]
They make a sweet 4x4 with Amazon Prime as well!
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