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Yes def. get the pro if you want to have pico remotes trigger automations—which are awesome!

I use one to control volume of my receiver from another room, I also have one set up as an emergency alert that sends announcements to all echos (by triggering a routine) when my wife or I am sick, I trigger relaxation scene in the bath which sets lighting, turns on a diffuser, and runs a routine to play meditation music, another one sets the mode in the media room for TV, Movie, Yoga, or all off using the 4 button scene pico, and another one lets me control my pool light and fountain from a switch in the kitchen, etc.

The possibilities go on which is why they are def. one of my favorite parts of my home automation.

Pico remotes are super responsive and look awesome mounted on the wall anywhere I want.

And to answer the original question, reusing a non-smart switch may be possible but it is more limited, by replacing all 3 ways with wireless picos you can have n-way switches, and add more as needed. You just close the 3 way circuits so they all behave like a one way back to the primary and mount pico in front of each box... I swapped out a dozen in my home that way...there’s a useful YouTube instructional video from Lutron.

BTW, do yourself a favor and get some wago connectors if you are upgrading a lot of switches...they will change your life :-) ( but only use real Wago (UL Certified), not the knockoffs-just not worth the risk):

WAGO 221 Lever-Nuts 75pc Wire Connector Assortment Pack with Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018MGMFDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_z9bAFbM9RRXPV

These switches in most cases (I won't say all because I don't know) work without the network. If I unplug the hub it's connected to it will still turn off/on/dim at the switch.

Before I paired it with my Wink after the install I turned the switch on/off dimmed my lights worked great.

When I flipped my breaker on and off it remembered the last setting the switch was on even. (I'll test all this again tonight and edit if I'm telling you wrong)

If you're asking about reliability I'm not sure, these switches are all pretty new. My Leviton one has a 5 year limited warranty but who knows how long it will really last, which would be a shame considering how expensive they are!

One thing I did do in my house when I wired these up was bought some Wago Lever Nuts (https://www.amazon.com/Wago-221-412-221-413-Lever-Nut-Assortment/dp/B018MGMFDI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479411696&sr=8-1&keywords=Wago+Wire+Nuts) that way if I sell my house I can pull my switches easily and don't have to worry that I may be cutting my wires too short. But also if my switch does blow up at least it will be easy to replace.

Surprisingly, amazon was cheaper than ebay for those. Just checked, and they have the newer model. While more expensive than traditional wire nuts, they save serious time on DIY projects. The link I provided is an assortment that costs more, if you plan on buying a lot... buy them separately by size. I just wanted to show you the different sizes.

I get them through Amazon. Only get the Wago brand, not worth risking it with the clones. Here's a link to a good assortment to start.

https://smile.amazon.com/Wago-221-412-221-413-221-415-Assortment/dp/B018MGMFDI/

I started with an assortment like above and have since bought more of the 2 and 3 port versions as I have almost exhausted the supply in my assortment, and the 5-port isn't that far behind.

When I have to connect stranded wire to solid wire, these are by far the best option IMO. They are also great if you are tinkering and want to connect things temporarily.

If you DIY, here's a video that popped up in a quick search... I skimmed it but it seemed to be giving good advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KBcC80n2Ts

If you end up needing to pigtail, I'd recommend getting some (genuine) Wago 221 lever nuts, they are easier to work with than wire nuts and more space efficient.

Seller "Peppy Products" on Amazon sells legit product, or an electrical supply house. Here's an assortment pack but if you end up doing a bunch it's probably better to buy in box quantities of the sizes you need.

And absolutely invest in a non-contact voltage tester and use it every single time you're about to mess with some wires.

If you are also rewiring outlets, which is imo more critical to do than light switches if they are also this style, an outlet testeris a good cheap investment.

I tend to use these connectors:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018MGMFDI/

They're much more common in the EU than in the US.

the Luton documentation is really good, however, there are 4 wires: Ground, Neutral, Fan Hot, and Light Hot. I simply removed the canopy and patched those wires 1-to-1 back to the light switch box using Wego 221 Connectors, then I wired up the box with 2 Lutron products: A light and Fan controller. The Wires are color-coded, if your wiring meets modern wiring standards, You might find this guide helpful.

That's not /r/techsupportmacgyver but simply dangerous.

At least buy something like this to at least have a save temporary solution: https://www.amazon.com/WAGO-Lever-Nuts-75pc-Connector-Assortment/dp/B018MGMFDI/

 

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A set of Wago 221 lever nuts. So much easier than wire nuts, a very homeowner friendly way to make electrical connections and repairs. Oh and a pair of wire strippers.

Thing shouldn't be shorting out if you are using proper terminal/junction blocks. Have you tried Wago connectors: https://www.amazon.com/Wago-221-412-221-413-221-415-Assortment/dp/B018MGMFDI/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=wago&qid=1636649433&sr=8-3

Also shorter wires where possible.