It’s called hyperbole…. Evidently not everyone saw the irony. Oh well. Most American “Right” are more concerned about masks and toilet paper…. As long as it doesn’t concern or upset my comfortable life, I’ll ignore it. Even to the point of destroying the planet.
If you want to read an interesting book on African wars, read “We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will be Killed With Our Families: Stories from Rwanda”
https://www.amazon.com/Wish-Inform-Tomorrow-Killed-Families/dp/0312243359
Relative to Bosnia. Try this, Kagame interviewed about why they couldn't bring them all to justice, not least because a very large number were parked in refugee camps in the DRC. The story of the Rwandans closing those camps is pretty horrific too.
We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be killed with our families is a great read about tribalism and the causes and events of the Rwandan Genocide. Long title but great book.
A really good book about the genocide, def recommend to anyone We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will be Killed With Our Families: Stories from Rwanda by Philip Gourevitch
I recommend reading the book We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will be Killed With Our Families.
Social structure and pressure do have something to do with it. If you begin to defend the rights of people in group 3, those in first group will turn against you and attempt to devalue you socially.
I'm not arguing whether the experts are right or wrong. Just that the value of authority is important, and if you publicly go against their pronouncements, you will be devalued to a lesser class by those with the power to sway the crowd.
Regarding the Zimbardo experiment, it is more of a reference to when people possess authority over a subject group and the seriousness to which that dichotomy can get if no one intervenes.
If we get to a point where our legal and political system begins to allow doctors, lawyers, real estate agents, business owners, teachers, police officers, the military, and any other authority-based position to punish those who don't comply with medical mandates, we will be entering a scary territory socially.
Unvaccinated people will not only face discrimination, but they will also face physical and social hostility and be used as a scape goat for other problems. People know this and will do their best to avoid being part of this class. That is why shame is being used to force people to get vaxxed right now. The media and government know people don't want to be completely shunned, exiled, or demonized socially.
Please don't take this next part the wrong way, as the similarities are only sociological and not in degrees of violence. I only include this to point out that the government and media can coerce the public to turn against a group of people and is an example of the extreme.
During the Rwandan genocide, the Government and their media arm stoked public hatred of the Tutsis to the point of mass executions. Anyone that opposed the demonization of the Tutsi people was seen as complicit and were executed as well. It was a full-scale societal collapse, where neighbors were hunting neighbors, and traditionally safe social interactions turned into violent altercations (doctors purposely killing patients, for example). The point of including this is to point out an extreme of what behavioral psychologists and sociologists know about human nature. There is a book on the social dynamics of this situation here. It's worth a read if you want to learn more about how society falls apart.
With that being said, I hope our society makes it through this panic and gets back to a healthy frame of mind.
> The Tutsi and Hutu were ethnic groups/social classes within Rwanda, not the Congo. And Rwanda was under German control until 1916 when it was taken over by the Belgians, which was 7 years after Leopold II died.
I'll admit, I got my facts confused. I was just going off memory from what I learned from the film "Hotel Rwanda" and this book and it has been years since I read it.
I suppose I should have spent 5 minutes brushing up on my history before mentioning it.
But you're acting like you're somehow an expert when you obviously just went to Wikipedia and found the first thing you could find to debunk my claim...
The truth is still closer to my side. When the Belgians took over they implemented the ID card system which codified the ethnicities into a rigid caste system with the 1 percent Tutsis ruling over the 88 percent Hutus. This is what I was thinking of and I wrongly attributed it to Leopold. My bad.
But most historians trace the strife back to this action by the Belgians and I still stand by that position. There were divisions between the Hutus and the Tutsis prior, but people could move fairly freely between the ethnic groups. And there wasn't this intense hatred:
> The Hutu and Rwanda were not living in equality before European colonialism but major conflicts between the two ‘races’ didn’t occur until after European colonialism. The European “divide and conquer” strategy for dealing with native populations combined with the ‘scientific’ racism of the era gave motivation and reasoning for developing the divide between the Hutu and Tutsi. European colonialism directly created the animosity between the Hutu and Tutsi, through the subjugation of the Hutu and elevation of the Tutsi as well as the removal of any social mobility, that upon their subsequent withdrawal from the firestorm they created, they had put the country of Rwanda on the road to genocide.
And the use of ethnic ID cards provided a basis on which to carry out the genocide, i.e. you had lists of people who were designated Tutsi, much like you had people with Yellow Stars or Pink Triangles, designated Jews or Gays.
http://www.amazon.com/Wish-Inform-Tomorrow-Killed-Families/dp/0312243359
Is pretty damning, considering its considered one of the best resources on the genocide.
Read We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be slaughtered with our families. Truly horrific.
We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families is a mouthful for a title, but a really sad and fascinating investigation of the Rwandan genocide.
We Wish To Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families by Philip Gourevitch - the book takes its title from an actual line in a letter written by Tutsi pastors who were hiding in a church, waiting to be murdered with all of their family, friends, and church members