if the goal is to teach your father about your beliefs... this book might not actually be so bad. its a well reviewed book called "why are you athiest so angry... 99 things that piss off the godless" and is really meant to explain that, yes, athiest have reasons to be angry and reasons why we should do stuff, and it's not just to piss off christians.
but i think Demon haunted world is a better idea, its a book about skeptical thinking, which is ultimately what i think you want convey really, not your beliefs but how you arrived at them.
and it won't piss off your father... like the god delusion. i mean seriously, just the title is bad enough for someone like your father.
Think about it this way: relativity is entirely observable, with quantifiable results and experiments that can be run against it.
Religion, simply put, has none of that. At all.
I'd recommend you read Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off The Godless if you want to get a better idea of why equivocation like yours is so infuriating ("it's all about making the world a better place" ... when Catholicism is responsibly for some of the worst atrocities the world has known)
To quote:
>Why are atheists angry? Is it because they're selfish, joyless, lacking in meaning, and alienated from God? Or is it because they have legitimate reasons to be angry--and are ready to do something about it?
Read a BOOK
Watch a LECTURE
Then try exercising what little intelligence you appear to have and think about it.
> CMV: If you have never read a Bible or Quran or at the very least researched what is written in them, you shouldn't be arguing with Christians or Muslims over their religion
Not every argument has to be about what scripture does and doesn't say. I see religion foremost as a phenomenon that manifests in society, with certain effects on society. Instead of criticizing what a religion is based on, we are also very much justified in criticizing the effects it has.
To understand what I'm getting at, I'd recommend the book "Why are you atheists so angry" by Greta Christina. Alternatively, you can read a summary in blog format, or watch it as a video).
For example, one big thing that happened in the past, is that official support for slavery and the slave trade was incorporated into Church Canon Law by Pope Gregory IX and only abolished 5 centuries later by Pope Gregory XVI in 1839. I don't need to know what's in the Bible to argue against such things.
> Personally, I don’t think death gives life meaning.
Death doesn't give life meaning, no. But it makes it valuable, because it's finite. Aluminum was once considered more valuable than gold because it was hard to mine. Then we worked out how to efficiently mine it and now it's so common that it's extremely cheap.
Life is precious because it ends, not because it goes on forever.
> I do have questions, and I am searching for answers.
What do you do with these answers? Does truth matter to you, or are you just curious what other people think?
> Would you mind elaborating? When I click the link it just brings me to the top of the faq, no where specific.
Ah, you're on mobile. Reddit sucks that way. Here's the text:
If religion were nothing but a personal choice, many of us would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, it causes a great deal of harm in the world, from justifying historical slavery and genocide, to current oppression of women, LGBT individuals, and other minorities across the globe, to promoting child abuse and teaching fairy tales as fact in science classrooms.
Greta Christina wrote a fairly comprehensive article on why atheists have good reason to be angry, which is also available in video form, as well as a book which goes into more detail.
For more detail, please see the wiki entry on Atheists and Anger.
In a nutshell, we call ourselves atheists because believers keep bringing it up.
Why are you all so angry? Why do you dislike religion if it's a personal choice?
If religion were nothing but a personal choice, many of us would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, it causes a great deal of harm in the world, from justifying historical slavery and genocide, to current oppression of women, LGBT individuals, and other minorities across the globe, to promoting child abuse and teaching fairy tales as fact in science classrooms.
Greta Christina wrote a fairly comprehensive article on why atheists have good reason to be angry, which is also available in video form (48:18), as well as a book which goes into more detail.
For more detail, please see the wiki entry on Atheists and Anger.
FYI
> Why So Mean?
> Now, I am not a regular of this sub, or of any, for that matter.
Ok, did you start by reading the FAQ? I’m guessing: not so much.
> If you boys weren't so anti-religion, I'd call you zealots.
> Anyway lads, I reckon ye might want to just reign yerselves in a shlight bit, t'is all a bit mad in fairness.
Tone trolling with a cute accent is still tone trolling.
Here’s what the FAQ offers on this topic:
> Why are you all so angry? Why do you dislike religion if it's a personal choice?
>
> If religion were nothing but a personal choice, many of us would have no problem with it. Unfortunately, it causes a great deal of harm in the world, from justifying historical slavery and genocide, to current oppression of women, LGBT individuals, and other minorities across the globe, to promoting child abuse and teaching fairy tales as fact in science classrooms.
>
> Greta Christina wrote a fairly comprehensive article on why atheists have good reason to be angry, which is also available in video form (48:18), as well as a book which goes into more detail.
>
> For more detail, please see the wiki entry on Atheists and Anger.
My book recommendation would be Greta Christina's <em>Why Are You Atheists So Angry? 99 Things That Piss Off the Godless.</em>. I also have a list of examples demonstrating the hypocrisy of Christian privilege.
I think your imposing a perception of atheists onto them that doesn't fit without first considering if it's correct.
For example you say atheists are angry at god, most atheists would correct this and tell you they dislike the character of the christian god in the same way they dislike Voldemort from the Harry Potter books.
They dislike some actions taken for religious reasons and thus the religions which provide the reasons behind the actions.
There are good reasons to be angry, just not in the way to are mischaracterising, I'd recommend looking up Gretta Christina, there's a Blog post, YouTube video and a book she has written which are all about why she is an angry atheist.
Edit: I'd also recommend Gretta's follow up blog post replying to criticisms
> I just have a dislike for a lot of atheists, as most, if not all of the atheists I know are only atheist to spite their upbringing, and have no valid arguments other than ones they hear on tv and online, yet they can't back these up.
Many atheists are angry and I think they have a lot of good reasons to be frustrated. Imagine how you would feel if you reached a point when you felt (for whatever reason) that much of what your parents taught you was not only wrong, but in some cases wilfully or knowingly wrong. Being told that touching yourself in certain places or having certain thoughts would put you in danger of burning for eternity, while simultaneously being told that Jesus loves you... I could go on.
Greta Christina (a blogger) made an excellent post a number of years ago to show to people some of the things atheists are frustrated with. The list is extensive. It became rather popular so she wrote a small book.
Well, as a staunch (sometimes militant) atheist, who really hopes someday the stranglehold the religious organizations hold on society will diminish though further applications of science and discovery, and very aware of the encroaching crap they have done in 'free' societies (treaty of tripoli, god on money or inserting in the pledge); the nice people within the religious communities still have their rights. Even though Greta Christina's rant is spectacular.
I've never had a problem with someone having religious beliefs, as long as they kept it mostly private and to themselves (The taxation exemption is another issue entirely). All the OP is basically mentioning is this, people in his community are showing their concern for his mother, some of it is crap, but some is genuine.
Religious communities have done some good. Overall, not very much. But to ignore some of the good they have done is almost as bad as persecuting all of them because of the bad actions of some of them. Responsibility also requires respect. If someone is nice to you one day, and horrible the next, does it mean they are only one of these things? A good way to look at it is this is water, (but it's much better listening to him speak)
Kinda like they way they blame all Atheists as godless sinners?