{"product":{"product_id":"0307272702","title":"Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It","price":"20.4","image_url":"https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/516kUs7tBbL._SL500_.jpg","url":"https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307272702"},"comments":[{"body":"Doctors recommend Fiber because they don't have a clue how heart health works in regards to cholesterol and insulin.\r\n\r\n\r\nFiber is not 'heart healthy'....carbohydrates are heart killers.\r\n\r\nRead \"Why we get fat\" and you can learn much more about the medical side and how since the 1960s they have been ignoring the truth.\r\nhttp://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702\r\n","subreddit_name":"Paleo","author":"nixfu"},{"body":"If you buy into Gary Taubes's [low carbohydrate school](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-Borzoi/dp/0307272702) of nutrition, then pasta and soda are equally bad for you.  Sugar is cheap, and carbohydrates are essentially sugar.\r\n\r\nI certainly can't eat more than a few servings of almonds a day, and picky kids definitely aren't going to.","subreddit_name":"gue","author":"DublinBen"},{"body":"I'm not sure how the ketostix work, or what exactly they're testing for.\r\n  \r\nI could be wrong, though. Googling this shit is impossible, though. You have to read books on this stuff. \r\n  \r\nI already linked this, but I got that info from Gary Taubes in [Why We Get Fat.](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307272702/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851\u0026amp;pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1\u0026amp;pf_rd_t=201\u0026amp;pf_rd_i=1400040787\u0026amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER\u0026amp;pf_rd_r=0WVXMK1Y5W3ZY0SN4R3H)","subreddit_name":"Fitness","author":"CurtR"},{"body":"First read this book [Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1303112136\u0026amp;sr=8-1).\r\nLearn about low, slow, no carb diets and try them until you find one that will work for you. Exercise is good for you but diet is what will determine your weight loss. It sucks but the sodas will have to go, switch to diet if you need something carbonated. Good Luck!\r\n","subreddit_name":"loseit","author":"RUST1d"},{"body":"ugh. this makes me really sad. I just read [Why We Get Fat](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-Borzoi/dp/0307272702) and this kind of thinking is totally backwards and wrong. We shouldn't shame ourselves because doctors and the diet/health/fitness industrial complex has lied to us for decades.\r\n\r\nFor the first time in my life I'm not feeling ashamed or guilty for being ~10-15 lbs overweight and now that I understand the science behind it I'm quickly on my way to losing it all.\r\n\r\nSeriously, this kind of thinking is fucked up and has to stop.","subreddit_name":"loseit","author":"snatchdracula"},{"body":"At work so can't watch. Posting here to for a lazy bookmark :D\r\n\r\nI read the [BOOK](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702/ref=bxgy_cc_b_img_a) recently. Putting some of it into practice and it is already working! (eating mostly meat, little too no carbs; after plateauing on a 4HB/slow carb diet!). People really need to read and understand this shit!","subreddit_name":"Health","author":"tyronomo"},{"body":"\u0026gt;\"law of conservation of mass\"\r\n  \r\nIs this another way of saying \"the laws of thermodynamics?\" \r\n  \r\nAs Sinamon just said, the calorie in / calorie out model is flawed. Not just flawed, actually.. fatally flawed. It's not the black in white. If you've read through the comments here, you've seen discussion on insulin levels and hormones. \r\n  \r\nIt's obvious you've done enough reading on nutrition to get you here, but I suggest you keep going.\r\n  \r\nPick up this book: [\"Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It\"](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1307979201\u0026amp;sr=8-1)\r\n  \r\nHowever, your premise is correct. Paleo is not a weight-loss diet. Our goal is not always to lose weight, but just to become healthier people. Paleo will do that for you. \r\n  \r\nCoincidentally, if you're not the weight your body has been designed to be, you will, overtime, come closer and closer to that weight.\r\n","subreddit_name":"Paleo","author":"CurtR"},{"body":"I'll quote [Taubes' 2nd book](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-Borzoi/dp/0307272702) here. You'll have to accept that psychology does enter into the equation (but it's not the whole story!) because obviously it's possible to remain in a state of starvation indefinitely and remain thin; people unable to obtain enough food adequately prove that. Equally obvious, I hope, is that such a thing is unsustainable and unhealthy.\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; Thermodynamics tells us that if we get fatter and heavier, more energy enters our body than leaves it. Overeating means we're consuming more energy than we're expending. It says the same thing in a different way. Neither happens to answer the question why. Why do we take in more energy than we expend? Why do we overeat? Why do we get fatter?\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; The very notion that expending more energy than we take in - eating less and exercising more - can cure us of our weight problem... is based on yet another assumption about the laws of thermodynamics that happens to be incorrect... The thinking is that we can choose to eat less, or semi-starve ourselves (reduce calories-in), and this will have no effect on how much energy we subsequently expend (calories-out) or, for that matter, how hungry we become... Intuitively, we know this isn't true, and the research in both animals and humans, going back a century, confirms it.\r\n\r\n\u0026gt; In short, the energy we consume and the energy we expend are dependent on each other... Change one, and the other changes to compensate. To a great extent, if not entirely, the energy we expend will determine how much we consume, while the energy we consume and make available to our cells (a key point, discussed elsewhere) will determine how much we expend. The two are intimately linked. Anyone who argues differently is treating an extraordinarily complex living organism as though it were a simple mechanical device.","subreddit_name":"pics","author":"nickiter"},{"body":"Unfortunately, we can't pin the problem of obesity on the obese people, which seems like what you're doing with your \"dozen burgers\" example. It's absurd to claim that people magically lost willpower over the last twenty to thirty years. That diet and exercise are more popular than they have ever been should make it seem very strange that the people who diet and exercise the MOST (Americans, believe it or not) are also the fattest.\r\n\r\nIn order to solve the obesity epidemic, we need a diet that actually works for actual people. \"Eat less, move more\" works for less than 2% of people who attempt it, in time frames longer than one year. And yet, doctors prescribe it to nearly all of their overweight patients. If \"eat less, move more\" was a drug, it would be a drug that made people better for a few months, then in 98% of cases, made them worse. Should we be prescribing that drug?\r\n\r\nNutrition guidelines are wrong. The paradigm is based on faulty science. There are diets that consistently, reliably yield permanent results. Eat less, move more is not one of them. If you still disagree, I have plenty of evidence I can show you, but if you're really interested, check out a copy of [Why We Get Fat](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-Borzoi/dp/0307272702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1298859140\u0026amp;sr=8-1) from the library.","subreddit_name":"pics","author":"nickiter"},{"body":"The only criticism I'd have is to find a better dressing. You can find ranch/Caesars that are 1-2g per serving.\r\n\r\nLettuce is good, but there are more  nutritious greens. Broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts, spinach, etc... Make friends with all of these.\r\n\r\nAs for 20g of carbs, it's definitely a good hard limit to start. At first generally the closer to 0 the better, (which you'll never do unless you neglect veggies, which you shouldn't do). But people can go as high as 50g or more and still be in keto. Everyone's different but just don't freak out if you're at 25g a day or something. You'll learn your limits.\r\n\r\nAlso, don't pay much attention to calories, and read [Why We Get Fat](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702). \r\n\r\nGood luck!","subreddit_name":"keto","author":"romple"},{"body":"Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that she was \"sitting at home and eating Bon-Bons\". What I meant by saying \"I don't see how she could *not* be insulin resistant\" is, if she is obese at such a young age, then something in her hormone balance has to be out of whack. No one's body *wants* them to fat, really, it's just that when we eat the wrong foods, we're sending the wrong signals to our bodies. I'm not blaming either her or you for that -- our government recommends that the bulk of our diet be the very foods that send those wrong signals, and it can be easy to chalk it up as \"just genetics\", because there are certainly a lot of people that eat that way and manage to stay skinny. I think those people did just get lucky with genetics, they tolerate the modern mainstream high carb diet better. But for those of us that didn't win the genetic lottery, so to speak, which I count myself in that group and probably your daughter too, keto and/or low-carb is very often the answer.\r\n\r\nIt's awesome that she's active, and you're right, exercise helps regulate insulin resistance, but there's more to it than just that, I believe diet definitely plays a bigger role in hormonal balance than does exercise (some people even say 90% diet, only 10% exercise). Additionally, it sounds like it's all cardio, and cardio can actually hinder weight loss as it releases stress hormones that cause your body to want to hold on to its \"emergency stores\" of energy. I don't know why I forgot to recommend this book in my first comment, but you may also want to read [Why We Get Fat](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702). It's a fantastic book, very easy to understand even if I wish it was shorter. It will turn your ideas about what is healthy upside down.","subreddit_name":"keto","author":"[deleted]"},{"body":"You are welcome. It seems that education, in this diet above all others, is important. You have to understand that bacon doesn't make your heart blow up, and that there are factors for heart disease that are heightened by carbohydrates. In other words, the USDA food pyramid is upside down. Seriously, watch the videos, read the literature, order [Why We Get Fat...](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1320469860\u0026amp;sr=8-1) from Gary Taubes off of Amazon.com ($14.33) and let him read that. You read it too and there will be no more doubt.","subreddit_name":"keto","author":"matbiskit"},{"body":"Congrats on wanting to change your life!  All of us r/keto-ers are happy to lend our support and encouragement.\r\n\r\nBut first, some real talk:\r\n\r\nThe hard part is re-learning what you know about diet and nutrition.  For the past 50 years, doctors have been pushing dietary advice that is well-meaning, but based on some bad science.  \r\n\r\nFor example, you say dietary fat is your \"real problem,\" and that you're concerned about calories.  These are the two biggest fallacies of mainstream dietary advice.  What researchers like Gary Taubes have discovered is that, if you look at all the scientific research we have, most of what we've been told is just plain wrong.  Most notably: \r\n\r\n* Eating fat does not make our bodies create fat    \r\n* Calories are mostly irrelevant\r\n\r\nI second the recommendation to read [*Why We Get Fat*](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307272702/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8\u0026amp;tag=fatmatt-20\u0026amp;linkCode=as2\u0026amp;camp=217145\u0026amp;creative=399377\u0026amp;creativeASIN=0307272702) by Gary Taubes.  **It's extremely important that you understand *how* and *why* your body creates fat tissue, and how a low-carb ketogenic diet corrects it.**  This is *not* a \"fad diet.\"  This is science.  \r\n\r\nCut out carbs, increase fat, and never look back.\r\n\r\nDo not worry about portion sizes.\r\nDo not worry about calories.\r\nDo not worry about fat.\r\n**Do** worry about **what you eat**, not how much.  There's overwhelming scientific evidence that **carbohydrates quite literally make us fat,** and that fat and protein do not.  ","subreddit_name":"keto","author":"severaltons"},{"body":"\u0026gt; obesity is caused by the consumption of excess calories (energy)\r\n\r\nMaybe not: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702/ref=asc_df_0307272702/","subreddit_name":"overpopulation","author":"hitssquad"},{"body":"I hope you do see the benefits of getting your fat intake up, since on keto your body is using fat for energy. You need to consume fat to have something for your body to run on. Let me know how it works out for you :)\r\n\r\nAnd in response to your last statement...it's not that neither are an issue on *this diet* per se, it's that over the past 50 years we've been given a ton of misinformation about the \"dangers\" of saturated fat and dietary cholesterol. \r\n\r\nIn a nutshell, heart disease is caused by inflammation in the arteries which is 100% **NOT** caused by what we commonly refer to as \"high cholesterol\" or by eating saturated fat. The inflammation is caused by a carbohydrate rich diet. When you eat keto, you actually reduce your risk of heart disease. \r\n\r\nDo just a bit of research and you'll be convinced that what you thought you knew about healthy eating is really not the way it actually works. I highly recommend reading [\"Why We Get Fat\"](http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307272702) by Gary Taubes to understand this better, and/or watch the documentary [\"Fat Head\"](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Head) on netflix or youtube. \r\n\r\nBest of luck, I hope you become a true keto believer ;)","subreddit_name":"keto","author":"notthecoyote"}]}