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Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Antenna 700-2700 MHz, 50 Ohm (314411) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_EXRSER9RAVPZZTF00G52

I have this one. If starlink is delayed again I’ll get a mofi that can do carrier aggregation as that will be a huge speed increase. I will also add a second antenna and off set them 45 degrees from vertical.

If you get a device with an external antenna port a Wilson LTE yagi antenna will set you straight.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_N0J1YN4N5VPR9XSQGY1P

You'll need to order 50ohm coaxial cable terminated with N-type female connectors, and an adapter for your devices external antenna ports.. (Usually SMA connectors or pressure fittings, I don't know the name of those, exactly)

If that's too confusing, check the Wilson wireless website, I believe they sell kits with everything you need.

I'd only had the trashcan a short while before adding an antenna. I didn't take note of any tower ID because given my remote location I'm almost positive there is only one tower for me to connect to. Where can I find my tower ID?

 

The trashcan wasn't relocated. In fact, placing it in anything other than a southern window makes me lose connection entirely. Before and after the antenna mod I've always connected to bands 2 and n71.

 

I actually already have this antenna mounted outside because I was previously using an unlimited Verizon prepaid plan for home internet:

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ

 

However, my trashcan seems fickle in its willingness to connect. I tried connecting it to that Wilson antenna and sometimes it'd connect with the same speeds and specs as if there was no antenna connected and sometimes it wouldn't connect at all. If I change the trashcan's position or antenna, sometimes I have to reboot several times before it'll finally connect.

>wifi isn’t all that strong (we have a hot spot that will barley stream)

First of all, Wi-Fi is your local network and it's fast. Then there's the Internet which is slow for you.

Now, if you have a hot-spot that sits at home that barely works, you need to move it outside. Signal strength is better outside for obvious reasons (obstructions). A non-obvious reason is LoE windows have silver coating that reflects some of the solar radiation as well as LTE signals.

When your hotspot is located outside your home and the speed is still not acceptable for normal use, you'll need some dedicated hardware like a yagi (directional) antenna. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ Some of the small hot-spot devices can be connected to external antennas, e.g. Mi-Fi 8800 from Sprint. Adapters required.

Also trying all cell providers and comparing them side by side is a must. Where I live, AT&T was the best, Sprint was pretty good, and T-Mobile was garbage. AT&T is a great choice because you don't have to use the device they provide, you can insert the SIM card to your own device, which is crucial for me as I have an OpenWRT device with a very decent LTE module with 2x carrier aggregation. Obviously, this is highly technical and not for everyone. But you have options if you're a techie.

Are there any obstructions? Outside directional antennas with clear line of sight. I run two of these Wilson antennas on a 25’ mast pointed straight at the cell tower. Each antenna at a 45* angle to each other shaped like an X.

If you have 4 sma ports on your cellular modem it sounds like you can run 4. The thing is though, line of sight is very important, if there are a bunch of trees or a hill or something in the way it’s not gonna work worth a crap.

That looks like it should work well. It covers B2, B4, B12, B66. B4 and B66 are similar signals, with B66 containing B4 and some extra frequencies (superset). What I have always struggled with is sometimes the devices will latch B12 and result in the slow speeds.

Something to try. Manually turn down all the signals but AWS and see if that helps keep you on B66. Depending on how the tower is pointing (bi-directional, tri-directional, etc) and where you are on that. If you are on one of the diagonals from the antenna, where the antennas are not directly pointing at you, that’s quite a distance to expect B66. It also depends on the load on the tower.

I typically stick to the Wilson yagi, but yours should work just fine.

Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Antenna 700-2700 MHz, 50 Ohm (314411) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_AjAbGbF2FA2XY

I work in IT and quite frequently work with LTE internet.

I would always recommend getting your own sim card modem and an outdoor directional antenna you can point at the tower. It's a relatively small investment that would pay off. You don't want something omnidirectional or an indoor antenna, it will be flaky and prone to interference.

Looking at that package, the modem they include is a pretty good deal and has external antenna ports, so I would pair it with this: https://www.amazon.ca/ELECTRONICS-WSN314411-Wideband-Directional-Antenna/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=sr_1_35?dchild=1&keywords=external+antenna+lte+directional&qid=1609338050&sr=8-35
and whatever length cable you will need.

LTE internet when setup properly works great, the downfall is data caps/throttling by the providers.

I work in IT and quite frequently work with LTE internet.

I would always recommend getting your own sim card modem and a directional antenna you can point at the tower. It's a relatively small investment that would pay off. You don't want something omnidirectional or an indoor antenna, it will be flaky and prone to interference.

Looking at that package, the modem they include is a pretty good deal has external antenna ports, so I would pair it with this: https://www.amazon.ca/ELECTRONICS-WSN314411-Wideband-Directional-Antenna/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=sr_1_35?dchild=1&keywords=external+antenna+lte+directional&qid=1609338050&sr=8-35
and whatever length cable you will need.

> Line-of-sight is very important.

Agreed. Since I get "almost no signal", I am assuming that the other hill is not entirely blocking me. Or maybe it is just causing some sort of diffraction/scattering. In any case, I am guessing that getting up higher will be better.

>A moderately high gain antenna (maybe 12dbi) will be easier to align than a really highly directional one.

This 10.6 dB gain one is the one that seems to work well for most people and it covers all the common cell frequency bands. The two bands I am most interested in are bands 2 and 12, and it is hard to find a good high gain antenna that covers both of those.

>Put all the hardware up in the tree and keep your cables to no more than a few feet.

Out the other end of the booster they usually connect an omni antenna that the phone then connects to. It needs to be placed far enough away from the first antenna so not cause interference and it only has a range of 10-20 feet. So you ether need to have a coax run somewhere, and if I put the booster up in the tree also then I also need to run the power cord up there.

>This will probably require a larger panel and battery than you expect. A single full-size panel (250W or more) is probably what you'll end up with. Be sure to oversize your solar power system by a lot.

Oh, I see what you are saying. No, having a PV panel in the tree will not work as there will be almost 100% shade. In fact I will probably only be able to get the antenna mount ed half way up the trunks of some of these trees. Still that is at least 50 feet up which is way higher than most of the masts I can afford. Power will absolutely need to come from the ground level which is why it makes sense to have the booster at ground level.

Kinda in the same boat as you, expect I've updated to a MOFI4500 and still the same issue, I've now ordered an Antenna on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J14YEHQ/ and hope for the best, I've read good thing about the MagicBox here, but either you have an account with Sprint or know someone that can order one for you (free).

I ordered him the Wilson Wideband Directional Antenna found here: https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Wideband-Directional-700-2700-314411/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=wilson+yagi&qid=1569347723&s=gateway&sr=8-2

I'm waiting on an adapter to connect the antenna cabling to the LB1120 modem, so I can't give any insight on speeds yet. (I recommended he get two for a MIMO setup, but he would like to try one first before doubling up)

All together, here is what we purchased: AT&T Prepaid Sim ($10) Nighhawk AC1750 Router ($80) Wilson Wideband Directional Antenna (700-2700 MHz, 50 ohm) ($50) LB1120 4G Modem ($100) 32 ft of N Male to RP SMA Male cabling ($15) Connectors to convert to a TS9 plug ($6, part I'm waiting on)

All this for under $275, not too shabby. If he decides to go with the second antenna, add $70-ish. I'll report back once the connector is in on Thursday.

The one I have looks identical, but could be different internally. Mine is a log periodic design (this one appears to be as well), which is very broadband and works well from 700-2600 MHz.

Found it. Here's the one I have: https://amazon.com/weBoost-700-2700-Directional-Antenna-Connector/dp/B00J14YEHQ/

Both people were wrong. But also the amp was a bad idea. Amps should only be used for cell phone voice, not house data. What you’d want is actually just two cross polarized yagi antennas

https://youtu.be/UiWt1yNBY2A

Now I’d suggest https://mikrotik.com/product/lhg_lte_kit it’s a good all in one kit.

I had a net gear nighthawk w/ 4 Yagi antennas, that setup cost nearly $500. So $150 for nearly the same speeds is pretty good.

But I would also look into wisps. Something else, if you have line if sight of someone who has good internet you can create a wireless link.

https://store.ui.com/products/pbe-5ac-iso-gen2

Buy a pair of those and point them at each other. The link will be good for miles. You can split the internet bill with them. If a business, pay some rent for having the dish on their roof. Blah blah blah.

You can use link.ui.com and try some links to your house. Remember you don’t have to put the links on your house. You can put them on a pole 100ft away if need be. Be creative.

This is what I used with my M1. I only got 1 bar on my phone inside the house.

pics - https://imgur.com/a/6nvF6ex

Antennas

Cables

adapters

Cables might seem expensive but signal loss will kill your speeds.

You don't necessarily need a ts9 antenna. Usually antennas have an N type connector. Then you need an N type to ts9 cable, or an N type to n type cable plus a ts9 pigtail. What antenna do you have now? Something like this might work though the cable isn't very high quality. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_SCVR2679DQ3H065TFWC1

WILSON ELECTRONICS WSN314411, Wideband 50Ohm Directional Antenna https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_SCVR2679DQ3H065TFWC1

https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Wideband-Directional-700-2700-314411/dp/B00J14YEHQ

WiFi is the wireless INSIDE your house, cellular is what connects you to the outside world. You need a cellular antenna. As I mention in my other post it sounds like your local cell tower has a problem. You MAY be able you connect to a different tower if one is nearby.

Check out towers here https://www.cellmapper.net/map

Get an antenna like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/

Or you can wait for them to fix the tower

 

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I am using a pair of yagis that I had gotten to test with a different LTE modem. They don't even claim to do quite as low as N71, but they boosted signal on it. Now I am getting N41, since they added it to my tower.

I am using these right now: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J14YEHQ

However, you need to get your own cables, pigtails, etc. Once you add those in, there isn't much savings over the Waveform kit.

Once Starlink arrives, and I retire the non-T-Mobile LTE modem, I will probably add the panel to the T-Mobile/Nokia device. At that point I will have 2x2 + 1 + 1.

I did purchase a 4x4 panel at one point, but it arrived broken and I returned it. I am fine with that as it was HUGE. Having looked inside one, I would rather have a pair of 2x2 panels than a 4x4.

In your case, given the long distance, I believe a pair of of longer distance antennas would make sense. Add them to your panel initially.

 

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A while back, I had tried a Panorama 4x4 MIMO antenna, but it was not working well. Turns out it was broken, and there were components rattling around inside. Thankfully, I was able to return it, but the vendor did not have another one in stock. I reverted to "stock" and things were OK for a while.

Around the time of the latest update, my T-Mobile Nokia device stopped getting a secondary connection on N71, and was on Band 2 only. That dropped speeds dramatically. I tried a bunch of stuff, and I even went back and forth with T-Force. That was a positive experience until they sent it over to the engineers who just said "You are in a poor signal area, live with it."

I was generally getting teens down, and under 3 up. Often under 2 up. Sometimes under 1 up.

Right around that time, I OPENED THE WINDOW. Before the update, I was getting signal through the window just fine, but after the update, no N71 through the window. But open the window, and everything was back to working. Hmmm....

So, I broke out the torx screwdriver again, and attached a couple of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J14YEHQ/

which were laying around from experiments on my other LTE cellular connection. While doing so, I noticed that the internal U.FL connection for the right most antenna port was not properly connected. So, I connected the pigtails and the two Yagis, and now I am getting 3 bars primary (instead of 2), and 4 bars secondary N71 (instead of 0), and it is all working through the window again.

I am bonding the two connections with a Peplink and getting 150-190 down, and 70-90 up. The T-Mobile contribution from just now was peaking at 88 down and 52 up.

The interesting thing, and why I had not attempted this before is that the antennas I used are only rated for 700-2700 MHz, and the N71 signal that I wanted to pick up is slightly below that. Still, they work! The Waveform Yagis (or panel) should also work, possibly even slightly better.

Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Antenna 700-2700 MHz, 50 Ohm (314411) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_16RZ6V06BNSMFQEGCQ6T?psc=1

thoughts on this one ?

>Hi! I'm installing a Yagi antenna on the outside of our house. We're in a tall two-story home and I'd like to install it under one of our second story windows (for easy access and the signal is good there).
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>Since it's at least 20 feet from the peak of our roof, do we still need a lightning arrester? Trying to avoid having to run a ground wire from the antenna to a pole buried in the garden.
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>Thanks!

Thanks Jon. It's a pretty small antenna and the mast is only going to be about 1 foot. The manufacturer says no grounding plane is needed as one is built into the antenna (but I'm not 100% sure what that means). Do you think the mast still needs to be grounded?

I tried the following:

2x - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J14YEHQ/

2x - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018PVVBS

2x - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W4VPW25/

2x -https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089CKDTJG/

We mounted it to an old TV antenna on the roof, pointed it at the tower, and was...disappointed. I realized after a while and some more Googling that the 50ft cables probably caused us to lose all of the signal gain we achieved through the antennas. If we are still renting this house in the Spring we will try using short cables, an outdoor box for the modem and a Power Over Ethernet run to power the modem and connect the modem to the router inside the house.

I used this model for about a year and a half with good performance:

http://mofinetwork.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=189

With an external antenna like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Electronics-Wideband-Directional-700-2700-314411/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=mofi+4500&qid=1603405165&sr=8-14

I will say the software that was janky as hell but it worked pretty well.

I used this antenna in rural NC to get better signal https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J14YEHQ/

https://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/wilson-yagi-directional-antenna-wide-band-50ohm-314411/

Band 12 they show can have a 7.3db gain. Helped me grab a solid ATT signal, was pulling down 40-60 at any given time and 8-20 up.

You can try 2 wilson Directional antennas to start. They are not very expensive and quality products. I'd say this is a standard antenna that should work in the majority of basic low signal scenarios like 2-3 miles away from a tower but lots of trees and obstructions are in the way. But it's not the most powerful antenna though. This seems to work best you are within moderate distance to a tower within a few miles.

https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Wideband-Directional-700-2700-314411/dp/B00J14YEHQ

So try this first, it is basic and cheap.

If it doesn't work, you'll have to try the big ones that are more expensive.

If you are more than 5 miles away, you probably want a more powerful antenna solution. It is a trial and error process and no one size fits all but I've heard good things about parabolic 26db antennas for long distance scenarios like 5-10 miles away from a tower.

https://www.amazon.com/Long-range-cellular-antenna-Weatherproof/dp/B07NJNC3MV

I bought two Wilson antennas and two Cables. These are the exact ones I got off Amazon. I don't know how far you plan on running the coax but this particular one I've attached has all the correct fittings already on the cable and is only 36ft. That was enough to get the job done for me. Just try to keep it as short as you can. Don't buy a 50ft cable if you only need 25ft. The shorter the better.

Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Antenna 700-2700 MHz, 50 Ohm (314411) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_vJKlEb6H9JJRB

36 ft Low-Loss Coaxial Extension Cable (50 Ohm) SMA Male to N Male Connector, GEMEK Pure Copper Coax Cables for 3G/4G/5G/LTE/ADS-B/Ham/GPS/WiFi/RF Radio to Antenna or Surge Arrester Use (Not for TV) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07V8KKKDB/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_6LKlEbD5AKBVN

I’ve got a pair of Yagis that work great.

Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Antenna 700-2700 MHz, 50 Ohm (314411) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J14YEHQ/

What's your cable run? how far are you from the tower?

I'm 3 miles with trees blocking clean line of site. I tried various indoor antennas without much luck. Ended up mounting duel antennas on the gable end of my house and running 25' cables

setup

I've had pretty good luck with this antenna: https://smile.amazon.com/weBoost-700-2700-Directional-Antenna-Connector/dp/B00J14YEHQ/ up on a 30 ft mast, low loss cable, and an adapter like this to connect to the device (in my case it was a MiFi/Jetpack/hotspot). Your device probably requires a different adapter than mine.