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These are all great solutions. I use something less involved than tailwind, probably a competitor to shelly. But it ties into my smart home (HomeSeer) so I can control/manage my garage door from anywhere via my phone. You can tie in at the opener, or at the motor itself which is what you are showing in your picture. It is dry contact based like Shelly.
Note that you need a smart home to make this approach work. It is not a 'freestanding' product like tailwind.
I misremembered the price I have updated my comment to reflect this.
I’m not seeing any zwave relays on amazon. It looks like all the relays are built for large consumer appliances and not small diy projects. heres a zwave relay but it is $60 . You may be able to find one online but you need to make sure it is compatible with your zwave controller.
Ah I misread, my bad. What kind of wiring does the furnace have in terms of the On/Off function? Would a thermostat do the trick?
Or something like this: [link]
Mimo Lite Dry set of contacts that works pretty slick. I have a couple of them ..
You didnt mention a price range and maybe this is a bit pricey but it does have many options and like I mentioned works great.
I have a gen 1 Wink hub that doesn't do momentary switching, so i needed a switch that does it for me, this one was the answer. Looks like it didn't support wink, but i added through inclusion mode and it showed up as a switch. Now when i say "Alexa Turn On Garage Door" the door opens. I have to say the same thing to close it. Saying Alexa Turn off Garage Door does nothing. To workaround this I made a routine to say "Alexa, Open Garage Door" that turns on garage door. and another to say "Alexa, Close Garage Door" that turns on the garage door. Works everytime.
I replaced mine with a mimolite: [link]
It took the same amount of time to install as the gocontrol, it's cheaper, and it doesn't have the annoying 5 second beeping "safety" feature. The only thing that's annoying is the open/close sensor is wired, so I had to run a wire to a magnetic open/close sensor on the garage door.
i use a Mimolite for mine. it performs the momentary pulse when you remove the jumper on the Mimo. [link]
That's correct! Oldschool buzzer systems mostly all work the same - when you press the "Open Door" button, two wires are connected, completing a circuit. That's exactly what the garage door opener does. But I only used that because I got it for free*.
Check out the MiMo Lite from Fortrezz, which would be my first choice if I had to buy it. Besides this, all you need is a soldering iron and improvisational skills (because there will be a some level of jury rigging involved!)
Or just z-wave enable the existing opener. You could use the unit below as a momentary switch wired to the button on the garage door opener. At that point you can open/close your door using any rule.
You can use the phone of the housekeeper as a presence sensor using life360, smarthings whatever.
My solution isn't cheap. I already have an Internet controlled garage door; but like all of them, Wink won't control it for security reasons.
I may add one of these to the existing setup for the sole purpose of remotely 'pressing' the button on my opener without it being blocked by Wink.
MIMOLite - Z-wave Multi-Input/Output Dry Contact Bridge
Why do I want it? I want to see which family member open/classes the door with Wink sub-accounts since LiftMaster refuses to add this feature (sub-accounts).
If you add your own contacts to detect open and closed, I believe you can use this as a complete solution. Someone online did something similar.
Downside of this method: remotely closing the door this way circumvents the warning that the LiftMaster route makes when it closes the door.
The only true momentary Relay that I know works with Wink is the FortrezZ Mimolite. I use it to control a garage door opener, but it would work well to control a chime.
It really depends on how many different circuits all your lighting is on as to whether or not you can do everything with one device. You could do the garage with this or something similar but unless the other lights were also controlled by a automated switch or you use GE/Hue lights I can't think of a way to tie them all together, unless I'm missing something.
Frankly for that purpose, I wouldn't get either, but I commented on the monoprice one because I didn't take the time to see what the other one did or how it interfaces.
What I'd recommend is what I had planned to use until I stumbled upon a more DIY technique (esp8266 with custom programming and circuitry) is a Mimolite
Has 2 dry contact outputs and 2 inputs if I remember right, so you can hook up two door sensors and two door openers.
I advocate heavily against buying devices (light bulbs, garage door openers, etc) that are designed specifically to work with these smarthome services directly. Instead buy into an established framework like insteon or zwave and add on a hub that works with Alexa/Google/Apple or whatever else comes out next month.
That service or technology might change or go out of business. Garage door openers should last 20 years. What will happen to Alexa in that time frame? Will the API change breaking compatibility with older devices? Will Amazon start charging a subscription premium that you don't want to pay for any more?
Instead, buy a "smart" contact closure switch and figure out how to interface that with your smarthome platform of choice (homekit, alexa, googlehome, etc). A dry contact switch will simulate what happens when you press the garage door open button that's mounted on the wall and it can can be made to work with any type of smart home service.
Take either of those technologies (zwave or insteon) and search for how to interface it with alexa. There are a large number of solutions out there depending on your needs. The good news is that you are investing in a platform that you can expand on that is not specifically tied to Amazon - you could easily control the same hardware with HomeKit or Google Home or whatever next month's flavor is.
>What I'd like to do is a wireless trigger, basically cut the wire, put some kind of wireless relay in the middle and have that relay complete the circuit.
You should be able to do that with a zigbee/z-wave/wifi relay, like this https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Z-Wave-Multi-Input-Output-Contact/dp/B00B6RZ7MM
you just need something that will monitor for continuity on some terminals
I think a shelly may work well for you, they can be yused as dry contacts which would be what a momentary contact would need to be replicated.
Can you reduce the voltage from 28 to 24 to the switches? It _may_ work at 28 but personally I would just put something like a buck converter to drop the voltage.
This option works well for zwave but is abit more expensive. https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Z-Wave-Multi-Input-Output-Contact/dp/B00B6RZ7MM
One of the best relay switches I have used is the MimoLite https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B6RZ7MM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
One of the features is that it can be configure as a momentary contact.. Meaning it will switch back after some determined time. For Garage door use, quite useful.
and, if you need to convert voltages: grab a suitable relay in a box from https://www.functionaldevices.com/products/building-automation/relays/.
There's also Arduino modules that convert 24VAC to 5V or 3.3VDC output signals, and you can probably easily find power supplies that can convert 24VAC to 5V DC.
I have never used *any* of these devices.
mimolite is probably your best bet
its not battery powered but takes 12v DC so you should be able to find a 12v DC L-ion battery on amazon of find a way to put 4 AA batteries in series
I post this often as this method has worked for me for a while:
I just recently connected this to my garage opener(Momentary Option): [link]
And used this genius method of using a door sensor since all of the tilt sensors seemed to be buggy. [link]
I haven't tried it yet but apparently this is a solution that works through z-wave and is alexa compatible: [link]
I use a MIMO*lite* with a dumb garage door opener. Easy to install and works great - as long as you have a z-wave hub.
Here are two I found on Amazon...have never used them:
This should be all you need as long as you already have a z-wave hub. Simple and has never let me down, I also have a z-wave tilt sensor on the garage door.
I think you're looking at a combo of webCoRE and a Mimolite [link]
Is that what you mean by mimolite
Wireless Z-Wave Multi-Input/Output Dry Contact Bridge; Cert ID: ZC08-16040002 [link]
You could consider the FortrezZ MIMOLite. Works great as a momentary relay to control a garage door.
Other's have used this:
I'm thinking of switching to that plus two GoControl Sensors to detect if fully opened or closed.
... but GoControl also makes this:
Z-Wave Garage Door Opener Remote Controller Accessory, but since it's an actual garage door remote, probably has restrictions on what Wink/Alexa can and can't do.
What I DO like about the current LiftMaster solution, not only can it sense if door is open or closed, but also senses opening/closing plus sends an error if door failed to open or close, PLUS a remote closure event sounds an alarm beep and flashes the light in the garage for ten seconds. Since a remote closure could occur with someone near the garage, this provides a suitable warning, and aborts the closure if someone breaks the beam (and/or if movement is detected on the wall sensor I have, not sure about that piece). Either way, it's significantly safer than a home-brew solution in this regard.
I just wish Chamberlain/LiftMaster would give us the features we're requesting; biggest one for me, auto-close if open 'x' minutes after 'y' time, and sub-accounts so I can receive notice WHO opened and closed the door. If I could get those two features, I might be perfectly happy with it; I'm not going to die if I can't get geofence-based events.
Right now, I can't even set up a GoControl sensor that says if door is open 'x' minutes, then close LiftMaster/Chamberlain.
Best I can do is have the LiftMaster/Chamberlain app start spamming me with e mail and/or push notification when the door remains open longer than 'x' minutes ... but then when my phone goes DND at night, I don't get them because iOS won't let us white-list apps to ignore DND.
If you're planning to purchase/install a switch, why don't you just get a FortrezZ MIMOLite and wire it to the garage door opener. It will show up as a switch in the Wink app. And you can control it using Wink robots.
Best option will probably be what Pita_146 said. Couple that sensor to an input bridge and you should be good to go.
I don't know if this will help, but I have done something similar and attached a wiring diagram to this post. I needed a Wink-controlled relay that would stay open for 30 seconds and then close. I imagine for a door buzzer also, you need to give the person at the door some length of time to open the door. Unfortunately, with Wink the shortest time to turn on/off a switch using a Robot is 1 minute, so that wasn't an option in my use.
So I came up with a solution that used a Wink-controlled momentary relay (the FortrezZ Mimolite) and a cheap programmable digital time-delay relay. Put together, the components cost about $70. Look around, you might find them cheaper. The Mimolite comes with its own power supply and I used a 12V power supply from a discarded router for the digital time-delay relay. The whole thing fits in a project box.
When I turn on the Mimolite using Wink or Alexa, it closes the time delay relay, which keeps the load powered for 30 seconds and then opens again.
Anyway, here's the wiring diagram.
Not sure, hmmmm. I have a doorbird at my gate that does this. Maybe you could try a contact or relay sensor. Dry contact switch?
Here's a switch
I use a FortrezZ MIMOlite z-wave momentary contact to control my garage door opener. You can use robots and/or IFTTT to open/close the door. Configuration details on [email protected]. And off course, you can also control it with the Amazon Echo.
Definitely. I just did this. The best z-wave relay for this purpose is the MIMOlite made by FortrezZ. This relay can be configured using a jumper as a momentary relay or as a latched relay. For a garage door opener, it should be configured as a momentary relay. Works very well with Wink.
BTW, FortrezZ provides a wiring diagram for this relay to control a garage door opener. Available here:
A thermostat is just a temp sensor and switches. You could use this: [link]
Hooking to openhab implies you already have a z-wave controller so I think this suggestion is definitely the best.
The MIMOlite is EXACTLY what you want. I have the very same item hooked to my openhab with a aeotec z-stick. I also added a tilt sensor to allow openhab to know if the garage door is up or down.
I use this exact device combined with a FortrezZ MIMOlite and OpenHAB to detect and control the garage door. Works like a champ.