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I have more critical advice. Don't treat this game like a casual, that's not to sound elitist, but, if you don't master at least some of the things that /u/frothyomen teaches in his videos, your Titanfall 2 experience will not be as rewarding from a PvP standpoint - (PvE in the form of Frontier Defense is not really affected).
The issue with TF2's playerbase and the game's design has it so that if a player is really good on one team (say, Frothy or mrleet) and the other team is all casuals, the casuals team will get wrecked out of the sheer lack of wall running, grav-star-boosting, grapple-lurching playstyle that a non-casual is more than likely going to run in a match, no pun intended..
It may help to spend 10-30 minutes in a private match, solo, so you can practice some of the techniques that non-casuals use.
Also, since you mention being on XBOX, I highly recommend the XIM4 mouse and keyboard for the XBOX consoles - you will absolutely wreck matches and set a high bar for match quality.
I understand the technology behind this, so you don't need to re-explain it to me (although I appreciate the effort). What you are describing, that advantage needs to show actual evidence of significant gain. I think people some thing get hung up on the details, and forget that this is a game, this minute details are for the ultra competitive that most of us aren't in. Does this actually result in a statistical difference that matters? More importantly, is the user bothered by this?
For me, I probably don't care, because I couldn't tell in an encounter if they were running at a higher frame rate. It just looks like they pulled the trigger before I did.
Take for instance instead, kb/m in Gears 4 (since that is what I play). Whenever somebody abuses the kb/m advantage, I can instantly tell, because the game wasn't balanced properly between controller and kb/m. This means, kb/m users can instantly get one shot kills much easier with sniper and huge advantage with boltok/hammerburst. You go do so fast. This is a significant imbalance that frustrates me when they abuse it, so I turn off crossplay. However, there are people that uses adapters to connect kb/m to the console to gain that advantage.
>The kb/m is in fact cheaper than controller, unless they plan on releasing a ''official'' kb/m for no reason whatsoever then put a pricetag of 100 dollars, wich i don't doubt but there will be support for standard kb\m i hope atleast.
I don't think you understand what I mean. In order to connect kb/m to a console, you have to get an adapter from third party that is not sanctioned (and considered cheating). It cost $150:
I wish MS would just crack down on that, but there are disabled gamers that use this for legitimate reasons.
You could, if you found a software workaround to make the console think it was a regular controller, which other people in this thread say is not recommended (dead zones still exist). But someone else in this thread recommended the XIM.
which is, according to them, supposed to simulate a mouse and keyboard 1:1. Seems a bit pricey to me, but if it interests you, go ahead.
> Throw in KB+Mouse and I'll never have a hope of being good.
First, most of the top players already have mod/cheat devices to make the console think you're using a controller when you're actually using a mouse and keyboard.
Second, MS is adding mouse and keyboard support anyway. Unclear how they'll keep controller folks separate.
Go plug a 20 dollar keyboard and mouse into a console and see if you can play with it.
To save you some time and money, you can't. You have to buy something like this, which is literally manipulating the system.
Sure you can sadly Games dont need to be optimized or anything.
Its not quite as fluid as a PC KBM, but close enough that you get a massive advantage.
They're not allowed in regulated e-sports, no, but they are used in matchmaking on Xbox Live and PSN. And no, speaking from experience, most people can't tell you have one. They're more apt to blame latency. And remember, it's still not as good as native KB & M support - since you're still operating within the (albeit upper) confines of acceptable controller responses and there is no option to disable aim-assist.
Still, it's a hell of an unfair advantage... and it's not like these devices are expensive or difficult to come by.
I'm the same way. THIS fixed it for me. Some say it's cheating but I don't ever play anything ranked nor do I play enough that the better controller players still can't beat me. The only problem is the price, but it's bluetooth can save like 16 profiles and use most popular PC peripherals.
Xim4 and yes is works with Xbone, PS4, X360, and PS3. I was skeptical at first but it works really well, it has bluetooth to connect with your phone where you can create profiles for different games. Though you'll want to find the compatible hardware list to make sure your mouse and keyboard work with it. It's a big list and I haven't had a problem but maybe you will.
It will not work without a converter in between, as PS4 lacks the necessary drivers.
You could go with a converter like this: [link] and it should work, also you could use a keyboard as well.
You would need an adapter from what I have read. Keyboard and Mouse will work outside of the realm of most games (some games have built in support for them). I agree shooters would be better with keyboard and mouse, but am too cheap to purchase the necessary adapter.
See adapter below:
Its already out there and they can't see it anyway. They won't implement it anytime soon. You can keep wishing for it and posting about it, but until 343 says something on it....its nothing but conjecture. Plain and simple. Cross platform MM will not happen in H5....PERIOD. H6, maybe....but very doubtful.
I don't play on PS4, but last time I checked, KB&M is not compatible with the game, and that you have to get some special adapter to trick the console into thinking you're using a gamepad. Something like this: [link]
I could be wrong though, but googling doesn't find me any posts or topics saying that people can using KB&M without an adapter.
If people are using these things, then there is literally nothing Blizzard can do - as it's an exploit with the system itself, not the game.
I can't think of any PC games that don't support keyboard and mouse.
Are you looking to use a Keyboard and Mouse with a Playstation 4 or Xbox One?
If So I believe something like a XIM4 will work:
Keyboard and mouse are the norm for PC players. Whereas the majority of console players would use a gamepad. I don't think the average consumer would consider buying Xim 4 which costs around 145.99$.
All what I'm trying to say is that keyboard and mouse, regardless of the console, outperforms game controllers due to the flexibility of editing settings (sensitivity, buttons ..etc). Or why else would people consider getting Xim 4 in the first place!
No mod necessary. And I can understand the cost argument, but if you're getting into the gaming world for cost and you're buying a console + PC controller + online gaming service, you're looking at dropping around $700. It's not that much more to buy a low-end gaming PC, AFAIK.
As far as ease of use goes, I'd say the two are equal, if not more so for controllers given that they're made for one thing and one thing only, as opposed to the M&K setup, which was first designed for text editing as its main purpose. I'm assuming you're a PC player? Not being derogatory, but I'm not making it up that M&K gamers on console FPS games are viewed in the same light as hackers in the console community and I could understand how a PC player wouldn't quite understand that.
Edit: In looking at the XIM comments I saw a user that had a disability which made it unable for him to use a controller properly. When I said earlier I couldn't see a reason that a console gamer would use a M&K setup aside from getting an advantage, I didn't think about disabilities and I wanted to say that obviously this is a perfectly acceptable reason to use such a setup. But aside from being unable to play on your console otherwise, M&K users are still as scummy as scummy gets in the console world.
It's really simple, actually. You have to buy an adapter, but they're pretty robust and easy to use. The XIM (linked above) allows you to play console games with a keyboard/mouse setup.
There are adapters but some can get expensive like this one
Just Google it and others show up as well but that's the 1st one I saw
Also the main website for that device apparently sells it for less ($125) than this vendor according to a review but I didn't confirm that
It's a bit high in price but I know it works well for keyboard and mouse gamers.
Couldn't I use this on Xbox 1 for fornite or no?
Xim 4 Keyboard and Mouse Adapter for PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3 [link]
You can already
1) The device you have to buy to make your dominant hand usable costs more than your darts and dartboard combined
2) The tournament organizer says using your dominant hand is cheating.
For real, when Blizzard says "Doing [X] in Overwatch is cheating. Please stop doing [X]" I dont get how people can defend continuing to do it.
“mommy TacoK1NG said to buy me this”
I know of a thing called a Xim adapter that'll let you do it, there are probably other options out there, but Xim 4 is pretty pricy:
More info here:
Hmm...what could this be.
you can but not directly. you need something like [link] and with that it comes with a bit of delay (can't imagine it being that bad, for terraria it should honestly be fine)
Well Xim 4 is the closet thing to "hacking" on a PS4 and unfortunately there is nothing PS can do about it unless they block by MAC addressing which they will never do.
Not everyone is using a gamepad... I don't use this, just merely pointing it out...
IT actually is as easy as that and it can already be done by using one of these. [link]
That price is way off, it's actually just $150.
I'd recommend this.
I feel like KB&M on Xbox is just going to be vaporware.
Wouldn't really work, because the XIM 4 exists.
Practically speaking, there's no way to guarantee that someone is using a controller.
A mouse and keyboard set up won't make a bad player good, but if you've even half an idea of what you're doing you can run rings around damn near any controller player. Aiming is both much easier, it's much faster, and you've much better control over your character's positioning and direction. Unless they give the controler player stupid handicaps with built auto aim etc (which eww) you can littrealy strafe faster than most controller players can adjust their aim all while shooting them with high accuracy. You can also take quick snapshots and manage all sorts of other things with a mouse that has a much higher skill floor or is even outright impossible on a controller. If you managed on a controller vs mouse on quake you were either stupidly stupidly good at the game or playing vs incompetents. You could consistently beat a controller player in pretty much every version of quake by jumping left and right a bit.
And yes that matters for the PVP eco-system. This is a problem right now because you can go out, spend 150 bucks and buy one of these and the folks that use them completely shit on pvp game play. Black ops 3 on console had/has problems with it (added stupid on PC, they put aim asit in for controllers, and you could shenanigans it so that was while using the mouse and keyboard). Hell Overwatch (have a article about it) has problems with it, get someone on the other team with that adapter and you're going to have a bad day. If they're playing ana or tracer or any other hero that benefits from very high accuracy expect to have a really bad day. You do not need to look very hard to find examples of entirely mediocre players dominating on console thanks to this. Sniper McSnipey's point and click adventure beats someone with a joystick.
Also the effect of aftermarket accessories on gaming is so so much nonsense. Top tier players use them for the same reason sports players use Nike products; they get paid to. There's no major difference between a $20 mouse and a $200 mouse except some more buttons, a few LEDS and the branding.
Hmm maybe the other interface has better performance. It's this one: [link]
The Xim 4.
TIL what "xim" is, and yeah I agree that sounds like a very unfair advantage..
These devices can be modded to use aimbots
Neither am I. Seems like he/she is just a good player. It's possible they have the Xim 4 or something similar, but I doubt they have "hacked" the game in some way.
It's the Xim4 and it has a very good reputation but is quite pricey as you can see. Although it is cheaper on their own website.
officially? or some adaptor like xim?
Yes you can
This thing apparently works well, if you wanna give this a look..
The only thing I can think of a is a keyboard to PS4 converter
Still considering getting it myself. I have one of these xim 4. I bought it for destiny and absoultly wrecked.
You can add keyboard mouse to any console already...
Pretty much [link]
Make sure you update the firmware and get the latest app from either the app store or off their forums (if you use Android)
My friend who does game battles for the new call of duty just ordered one. Everyone on the top leaderboard uses one since it puts them on a whole different level.
It's not cheap, but the XIM4 will let you do that for any PS4 game. I've also heard it's cheaper on XIM's website.
Yes, but it's expensive.
This is a far better solution.
This is not true. Some games on console natively support M+K, and there are adapters for the games that don't.
Edit: Xim 4 for those interested
Microsoft is going to be adding native support for mouse and keyboard soonish.
But until then there is always this option. I'm not sure if there are cheaper adapters, but I found this one pretty quickly.
Yes, there is an adaptor to make your PS4 think a KB/M setup is a controller.
There's an adapter that already allows it. [link].
Apparently it's been ruining PUBG and fortnite on console. I'm pc all the way these days but I've heard people complain about it on various multiplayer game subreddits.
Yeah, but you can just use something like this:
Thank me later.
PS4 has an XIM that MAY work, I have yet to buy it myself but the reviews is 4.4/5, if you have $124 to burn (go to the actual site, not amazon) and give it a shot. I plan on testing this in the next few weeks.
Yes with hardware and not remotely. Only on the physical console.
Not Xbox controller but keyboard/mouse:
You played on pc? Ok here what you do but we can keep it a secret between you and me.... Erhm ..... You buy this
Then you connected you keyboard and mouse to your PS4 and win every game. :D
Just have to buy the kit. It's not hard to set up.
Here you go: [link]
You can, but you would have to pay an arm and a leg for the attachment found here -----> [link]
People are saying that this is a good thing,but this makes it easier for the people to have a unfair advantage.
A regular mouse+keyboard can cost you as little as £10,it might not be the best experience but it still gives you an advantage over controller.everyone spending £10 puts everyone at a similar level
But because there isn't mouse+keyboard compatibility there will be people who spend over £100 to get something like this to use mouse+keyboard.This means people will have to spend an unreasonable amount of money just to stay on level playing field with people who are willing to spend a lot of money on gaming peripherals,making the game almost pay-to-win
It still won't truly feel like a mouse would on a PC, but it's something.
You’re a moron. You need to buy an adapter. Console is unable to recognize KB+M just by plugging it in, it just thinks they’re two more controllers.
Plus plenty of players use a XIM on console. I feel at a disadvantage with a controller, considering.
edit: just check amazon.. plenty. [link]