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Hey - have you been checked by a doctor for eczema at all? Mine started on my hands around the time I first started in care (washing hands/bacterial gel etc).

I got a prescription cream from my GP to help with the open wounds but when it's not flared up I use a hyaluronic serum followed with a good hand cream (I love stuff from The Body Shop).

Link below to Amazon for the serum I use:

https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Skin-Institute-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=premium+hyaluronic+solution&qid=1577833602&sr=8-4

This has really helped my hands, winter makes the dry and soreness so much worse but I've found this reduces the pain and cracked skin significantly.

for spf to be effective you need to apply 1/4 tsp of sunscreen product.

this amount of sunscreen is ok for most but that amount of a moisturizer with spf can feel too greasy or heavy especially if you have oily skin. most people using moisturiser with spf won't end up using enough so won't get enough protection.

I recommend using a lightweight gel moisturiser and a separate sunscreen like la Roche posay Shaka fluid, etude House sunproof, or biore watery essence

I'm more combo / normal and oily.. mainly my nose. It can turn into an oil slick in the summer quicker than I can finish my face. This Etude House 'sunprise' is the best one I've found! It doesn't make the perimeter of my face too dry and actually helps my nose / cheek area control themselves.

This is pretty much it.

It's one of the original holy grail low pH cleansers on r/skincareaddiction and have been using it for a few years now. I just buy it from large asian stores like T&T or Ocean's (Toronto area), but sometimes amazon is cheaper. I stocked up on a few bottles when I was in Japan because it's only like $4 there or something ��

Their hyaluronic liquid is also amazing if you have dry/dehydrated skin! You just pat a small amount over your face before applying moisturizer and your face just sucks up all the moisture.

If you are open to getting it on Amazon, I highly highly recommend Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil. It's $10 for 230 mL, lasts ABSOLUTELY FOREVER, and is the most effective cleansing oil I've ever used.

KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil 230ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Zfr-DbS1ZMQ6A

It didn't break me out but made my face beat red the next day. The niacinamide is at a high percentage in TO niacinamide. I got into diy and niacinamide was on my list of things to make and read a good study about niacinamide showing great results at 4% when its formulated with 2% NAG. It's suggested use is between 2-5%. I didn't use any vitamin C when using it either, because it can turn niacinamide into niacin (I think). My skin handled the serum I made just fine and it actually helped with inflammation.

If you decide to try it from TO, it's cheap. But there are a lot of other niacinamide products out there with a lower percentage. Cerave has a moisturizer with niacinamide and ceramides, and hyaluronic acid. It's in my cart, I definitely want to try it. CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion PM | 3 Ounce | Ultra Lightweight, Night Face Moisturizer | Fragrance Free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HoWIDb8ZF0QSC

A month ago I was reading about niacinamide and azelaic acid because people seem to have good results with one or the other, or both. I have cystic acne and have been looking for something to help. I have read that niacinamide increases keratinocytes, and azelaic acid decreases the production of keratin. I made a post about it, but nobody ever had an answer. I get nodules and cysts on my jawline and neck, so I don't put as much niacinamide in that area. But I wish I knew more about this because so many people do use niacinamide and if it makes acne worse, that's not good.

This is kind of a tricky question because how do you define "budget"?

For me, I consider Cosrx products very affordable and would instantly jump to say they're great 'budget' products, but maybe to another they're too pricey.

I guess if I had to look at best 'bang for your buck' with my routine and products, I'd say the following have been great HGs I repurchase all the time:

• Kikumasamune Lotion ($1.65/fl oz.) Before COVID I was going to Japan usually once a year, and this thing was under $10 USD at Donki. Even with the online markup, it takes me ages to go through a bottle. I don't have any issues with fungal acne, so it always does a nice job. I like the white bottle too for lighter coverage. If I picked up a bottle on my annual Japan trip, it was all but guaranteed to last until my next time.

• Hada Labo Hyaluronic Lotion in Light ($3.33/fl oz) Obviously way smaller than the Kikumasamune, but I only use a few drops at a time, so it lasts me forever. It's also (again), way cheaper in Japan at Donki. It rounds out my routine's need for moisturizer and does a great job!

This is my favorite sunscreen. Not greasy, no white caste, doesn’t irritate my skin, and wears well under makeup.

Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish Sun Milk SPF50+ / PA+++ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WE3XGAC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_StK9Db2CYNGQJ

Elta MD doesn't use avobenzone and is a great sunscreen! Not sure if the specific one I linked is water resistant, but I know they make many that are!

Your skin needs moisture. The extra oil it's producing is often times a sign of dehydrated skin.

What I recommend is a good lotion. Maybe a toner, too. And a face wash.

Try this:

Cerave hydrating face wash

Hada Labo gokujyn lotion (this is the toner) and can be found on amazon very cheaply. It's a very moisturizing product and is highly recommended by the /r/asianbeauty sub. Edit: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml)

And my favorite lotion is Cerave lotion. However, if you choose not to go with that, just make sure that dimithicone, cyclomethicone or cyclopentasiloxane are somewhere in the ingredients, preferably near the first few ingredients listed. Also try Cetaphil lotion.

You wash, tone, lotion. You can repeat this day and night.

I do recommend a sunscreen, but at fifty, you might be less inclined and there are not any actives in this routine. If you're feeling spendy, you can opt for the Cerave AM lotion, which has some spf in it.

Vaseline is also good if the lotion doesn't seem like enough. Just put a thin layer on at night.

Idk your hygiene routine, but it might also help to wipe your CPAC mask down with alcohol every couple of days or every day. Even if you never have done so in the past, skin can change and by the sound of it, seems like yours has.

It honestly sounds like you could have dehydrated skin and you should check out /r/skincareaddiction and /r/asianbeauty

Asian beauty was extremely helpful to me as I have almost completely restored my skin and it is so much better, plumper and brighter. I find that there are great, drugstore friendly priced products that you can use with an AB skincare routine, although the sometimes it might be harder to get products as quick, as most ship from Asian countries. One thing that has helped me is using a hyaluronic serum before I use a hyaluronic face mask. I use these twice a day (when I have the time, which is almost daily). I also use the hyaluronic serum before my mask, let it sink in for a couple minutes, put the face mask on and keep it on until it starts drying out (about 45 min, which seems long but I prioritize it). I then take the mask off and let it all soak into my skin for a couple mins, use the hyaluronic serum again, let it soak in and then out my moisturizer on. I've only been doing this for the past month and the intense change in my skin is absolutely ridiculous. These are the two products I use. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQUGXA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_ and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IK8E6CC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_1Pq3wbJQ8VPVV

If you're worried about the price, you can buy bundles of sheet masks on Amazon for low prices.

They are, but I've found that the American retailers of Hada Labo charge a lot more than it costs to get the Japanese version from, well, basically anywhere.

Case in point, Ulta's Hada Labo Hydrator is $9 when it's half off for 1.7 fluid ounces of product.

Amazon Prime has the Hada Labo Gokujyun Moist for a little under $12 for 5.7 ounces of product.

CVS ran a similar 30% deal a week ago. I got excited and stocked up on things, then realized Amazon had the same items for much less than the CVS sale price. Example below. Cerave PM at CVS (before 30% discount) same product on Amazon

I've fallen into an Asian Skincare hole lately, and absolutely LOVE Hada Labo Gokujyn Hyaluronic Lotion Moist as a moisturizer for oily skin. It's super lightweight, makes my skin so bouncy and hydrated, is cheap and you can get it with fast shipping from Amazon.

Oil cleanser is the best way to remove sunscreen/makeup. I have tried many over the years and the best value/quality is KOSE SOFTYMO Speedy Cleansing Oil. Gentle, effective and will last you a very long time.

The key to using an oil/balm cleanser is to put a pump over dry skin; massage it all over. Then wet your hands and massage it again. This will make it emulsify the oil, it will turn milky and becomes less oily. Rinse it off, then follow up with your regular cleanser.

This method not only will ensure you have cleansed properly and got rid of any sunscreen, but it also helps with Sebaceous Filaments (black dots) on the nose if you have them. It is also a gentle form of exfoliation and will leave your skin soft and smooth.

I've been using CeraVe PM lotion, and that works well for me. It's not like, OMG AMAZING, but it keeps me moisturized without being greasy/oily, and it doesn't break me out. (PSA: this stuff is apparently like 80% off the normal price right now on Amazon if you get it in a Prime Pantry box.)

I tried the Hada Labo gel cream before the CeraVe. I liked it too, but it left me feeling a little bit ... stickier? So now I've just been using it for my hands and neck.

Also, if you haven't already, you should definitely check out r/skincareaddiction. There's tons of great product recommendations and helpful people over there!

You can order it from amazon.

Here’s the link https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hadalabo-Institute-Gokujun-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=hada+labo&qid=1557313179&s=gateway&sr=8-4

I’ve never used the beauty samples and I didn’t know you could choose. I’m pretty sure it’s random. Sorry if I couldn’t help.

I have a similar eczema and always did. It was so bad as kid, I was bloody from scratching and on steroids. I have manged it for years , but use as much moisturizer as you. It's a job.

I really love Cerave lotions and the cream in the vat. It has has ceramides and hyaluronic acid. Eucerin is great too and I use both. The healing ointment is their vaseline which is amazing as it has other stuff. I love Eucerine AtoContorl too. Aveeno Eczema therapy too.

I think you should try hydratoring toners and layering up. They are for the face but works all over. I really find it helpfull. I highly recommend the Kikumasmune High Moist Lotion (toner). I use this all over as it's cheap and comes in a huge bottle. Best after the shower on damp skin. Then Cerave lotion or cream. Then more cream on the eczema prone ares.

Also love Scinic All in One Snail Ampoule - is a moisturizing serum, which comes in what looks like a honey like jar. . They make a honey version too. If you put them in pump bottles (Amazon sells little amber ones), it's easier to use. I use it after the kikumamune, which I use all over. Snail I use just where i get eczema. CosRX Snail Essence is another option.

Hada labo lotion is very high level hyaluroinc acid. That is great. They make a premium and a moist. Both are great on body or face. Another cult product.

Use very gentle cleanser is key. Aveeno bath washes. Eucerin Calming Shower Oil Cleanser is my current favorite. Smells funky and feels like an oil but rinses off and does clean.

I don't know if you have tried German Nivea in the tin jar. It's got something that isn't in the American. Both are good. Also Nivea enriched lotion (not German). Scent is strong, but it's really rich. I have been reaching for it lately.

I see "crows feet" and I think "dehydrated". So.

1) Replace your exfoliant with CeraVe Hydrating facial cleanser. It's not going to feel like your face is clean for the first like week to two weeks because you're probably used to the very squeaky clean (stripped) feeling. But focus on how your skin feels about two minutes after you pat it dry - that clean-but-not-desert feeling is delightful.

2) Add a purely hydrating layer. Depending on what type of environment you're in, that might be Hada Labo lotion or a serum. If you're in a dryer area, you probably want a glycerine-based serum or lotion rather than a hyaluronic acid based one, as HA can actually draw water from your skin if there isn't enough in the air.

3) Consider a thicker night cream like CeraVe in the tub, Jason Gentle Basics night cream, or (again depending on your area) a thin layer of petroleum jelly (Vaseline) to help your skin keep the moisture in it. If you're in central California or the south - somewhere with humid air - putting your hydrating layer on, sitting for a minute or two, then finishing with Vaseline might be enough. If you're in Tucson, you're probably going to want something like the CeraVe in the tub or the Jason to add additional layers of hydration to your skin.

4) As /u/glittercrotch said, r/asianbeauty is a great resource. There are lots of skincare companies in various Asian countries that have affordable, high quality products that you can get on Amazon. The Hada Labo lotion is one, and you might check out something like the Hada Labo Skin Plumping Gel-Cream for your thicker cream step.

Amazon usually has good sellers.

Hada Labo Lotion: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/

Sunscreens: https://www.amazon.com/Biore-Sarasara-Watery-Essence-Sunscreen/dp/B00LA6QEOE/

I've bought both and as far as I can tell, they're legit!

The Neutrogena cleansing oil is one of the least expensive cleansing oils I've seen on the US market. I use a mineral-oil-based Japanese cleansing oil that I can get off Amazon for a bit less per ounce. It's the Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing oil, which is fragrance-free and mostly mineral oil. If you're sensitive to jojoba oil, though, be aware that it does contain jojoba a bit further down the ingredients list. It's about $8-9 if you wait for it to ship from Japan or $11 with Prime shipping, but it's almost twice the size as the Neutrogena bottle, and you can get refill pouches for even less: https://www.amazon.com/Softy-Facial-Cleansing-Speedy-Pound/dp/B000V2FBAQ

Even if it does, part of enabling is having a link ready for a newbie to fall into the rabbit hole ;)

This toner is super popular here. It's a huge bottle, $14 on Amazon prime, some people feel it smells like a mix of sake and bubblegum. The scent dissipates right away, so you won't be left smelling it.

Kikumasamune Sake Skin Lotion High Moisture - 500ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ECQCVK0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ZWWKybBMDP477

Tbh I don't think it's the percentage of hyaluronic acid that makes the Gokujyun lotion so great, but the molecular weight of it. The lotion uses a low molecular weight of HA which is more bioavailable, i.e. it will sink deeper into your skin rather than just sitting on top. The Gokujyun lotion actually uses 5 different types of HA with different molecular weights which, in theory, can hang onto moisture in varying levels of your skin. HA is also only effective in skincare products up to a certain concentration, so trying to maximize the amount of HA you get per dollar spent is probably going to be a waste of time at a certain point.

As far as cost is concerned, I got mine on Amazon for about $10. I'm really pleased with it so far and don't think I am missing out on any HA goodness because it's only $10.

Hado labo is inexpensive and wonderful. I have noticed significant changes in my skin using hyaluronic acid. I have dry dehydrated skin. Hyaluronic acid has helped to decrease my dryness when used after seven skins and before an oil and occlusive moisturizer.

Edit (to add): don't feel like you have to spend a lot to get quality. Hada labo is $ 10-15

hada labo (buy from Amazon . . . not this site. . . it's like $11 on Amazon) - thinner consistency with 3 forms of hyaluronic acid

hado labo - thicker consistency with 5 forms of hyaluronic acid

I actually use both with a mist before, between, and after.

I have combination skin, and my absolute favorite is Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish. It's effective, affordable, widely available (that link is for Amazon), feels light, absorbs well with no white cast, and smells citrusy. I've tried a few other AB sunscreens, but I haven't liked any enough to rebuy except this one (several times now). The only thing I can't speak to is how well it wears under makeup, as I don't wear foundation at all.

I use Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish Sun Milk SPF50 and like it! But not sure if it’s similar to Kiehl’s I’m afraid.

You might be having more breakouts because your skin is dehydrated and is producing more sebum to compensate. Leading to more clogged pores.

There's nothing super special about the ordinary. You can go to Marshalls or TJ Maxx and get a great HA serum for 5.99

I personally use the HadaLabo Hyaluronic Acid serum because it will last me for a good year: https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Skin-Institute-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C

The extra lotion treatment?

I LOVE the hado labo premium lotion.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013HHJV0C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_b8P8Fb0Q2WFBQ

It is a base for all my hydration needs.

All the details on the bobbi body seem to fit what I describe the hado labo. It's a major hit on skincare addiction and it's been a staple for me for 4 years.

Hello, I'm trying to find the correct ingredients list for this product .The Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist to be precise(according to amazon) and I found a cosdna ingredients thingy that has a pretty similar name, is this the correct ingredients list?

Since you're looking for a toner, Kikamasamune toner is really good! It's only 10.81 right now on amazon and you get a huuuge thing of it! It's very hydrating too and makes my skin so so plump and soft.

No problem! And we were all amateurs at some point! :)

Btw you can find some pretty cheap hydrating toners online. For instance the Kikumasamune High Moist Lotion that many people love in this sub is only $14 for a giant 500mL on Amazon Prime. Toners tend to be one of the cheaper AB products because there's such high water content haha. I hope you find a great toner!

ETA: LOL I didn't realize somebody else had linked you to this exact same thing already!

This one comes very highly regarded by rosacea support forums and has many good reviews on amazon. It's on my list to buy once I'm out of what I'm currently using.

https://www.amazon.com/Eltamd-Clear-SPF-48-Gram-1-7/dp/B002MSN3QQ?th=1

For skincare, I am currently using the Redness Solutions line from Clinique. I find it has helped with the redness and also general inflammation in my skin. I have subtype 2, with a cobblestone like texture in my temples and tiny pustules around my cheeks and nose. I have been using the Clinique for about a month and it has helped so, so much. I also use Finacea cream and that has worked wonders for me also. I'm not exactly 100% redness and bump free, but I've made great progress and will continue to use my regime and recommend it to anyone with Rosacea who hasn't tried it yet. Best of luck.

I got the Kiku :) This is the store I used https://www.amazon.com/Kikumasamune-Sake-Skin-Lotion-Moisture/dp/B00ECQCVK0/ref=sr_1_1?m=A111T5BUDCP21Y&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1492757420&sr=1-1&refinements=p_4%3AKikumasamune

(I hoped that worked, I am so not proficient in Amazon)

Sold by Amazon

Sold by another seller (potentially fake)

I still had some gift card money on Amazon US so I ordered it from there (now finding a seller with no Amazon global fees took some extra time though). But Amazon.fr has it for free shipping here.

Have you ordering it from Amazon?

I would have recommended this if you didn't. I absolutely love this stuff. It's by far the least greasy sunscreen I've ever used -- not that I've tried a ton of sunscreens, but after finding this stuff, I don't feel like I need to try any more.

product link via Amazon (US) for anyone who's interested.

Looks like it's just out of stock edit: nevermind this is the lightweight version. I'm having a hard time finding it on Amazon too. The one I found was $34, I bet they're just low on stock right now.

It's also available from dermstore. I'm sure your friend could find it from a CVS, Walgreens, or Target too.

Yay! I’m glad to hear that.

I use Cerave! But when my skin was super dry/dehydrated I started also using Hada Labo Hyaluronic Acid lotion and it saved my skin and made it more normal than dry. If you’re interested, you can buy it on Amazon and should use it after you cleanse while your face is still a little wet. Then let it soak in - no rinsing required! Follow with moisturizer. On amazon here: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8K4YBb80CSH1B

I'm not a Hada Labo expert, but isn't this it (Amazon prime)?

You're welcome! Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner--the life of a toddler mum.

Not sure if you are familiar, but the Japanese and South Korean toners are great for adding moisture. Amazon carries some of the more popular ones like

Hada Labo Premium Etude House Soon Jung Relief Toner

But if those don't appeal to you, the best way to choose one is to look for something that contains ingredients like glycerin, hyaluronic acid (or sodium hylauronate), or urea, and avoid anything with alcohol (or ethanol) and/or fragrance.

I don't know if there are any UK specific brands and I'm still on the lookout because I'm sure there must be! However, I've recently got the Etude House Sunprise one from Amazon, and I'm liking it so far. I'm 90% sure it's a physical blocker, and reef safe. Little to no white cast, and I'm brown so it would definitely show up. The downside is the price and the fact that it came wrapped in a tonne of plastic when it was delivered. Pretty sure the K beauty stores in/around Chinatown may carry it but I've heard their prices are hiked way way up.

Which one do you suggest for sensitive skin? I have a korean one this one I just need to find it lol

Hi! I have anxiety that can cause sensory issues and I completely understand where you are coming from. My best recommendation would be the Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish. After about a minute you absolutely CANNOT tell it's on your skin. If you have any dry patches and you're using it multiple times a day, I'd recommend bringing a little bit of your favorite moisturizer and layering that with the sunscreen as it can start to dry out your skin unless you have very oily skin. It's an Asian sunscreen like everyone else is recommending! It's also fairly affordable (much more than a brand like supergoop) which is definitely a plus.

yup! I used to have a different serum that worked, but now I used the Hada Labo premium which is PERFECT (the non premium one broke me out :( )

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O

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this is a "hydrating lotion" in asian beauty but its used like a western toner. My skin loves it! Its unscented and helps draw in moisture.

It's non-greasy & dries down quickly to matte. I have combo skin so it can dry out some parts of my face (alcohols), but I've never noticed an issue on the oilier parts of my skin & a lot of the reviews on Amazon are from people with oily skin. If you do end up buying from there just make sure when checking out that the seller is the official ETUDE since Amazon has fakes in a lot of skincare.

It's really too bad that it's drying on my skin because otherwise it's been a perfect sunscreen. Very light milky texture & no cast on my pink/pale skin which most other mineral ss have

Well, we're probably not in the same country, I'm guessing you're in the US?

My fav is on Amazon US though if you wanna try it:
https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ

Don't be fooled by the pink colour and "target gender female" (why would they even put that?), anyone can use it.

I think as long as you don’t buy it from the “other sellers” list, it’s fine! I’ve bought this one a few times: Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist, 5.7 fl. oz. (170ml) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8W6QDFYRWVMP3ESZ9TZG And it’s always the real thing!

I currently have the Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish Sun Milk SPF50+/ PA+++ that I bought on amazon! it's the mineral version. I'm SouthEast Asian and it doesn't leave a white cast on me, just a slight initial one but it does go away after letting it sit for a few minutes. This does contain some alcohol and fragrance but it does not irritate my skin at all or dry it out (esp for me as I have dry and sensitive skin too). It is also a milky texture but does not run too much. Not waterproof I believe.

I use a Japanese (Rohto hadalabo gokujun hyaluronic acid lotion is Japanese, right? I should know where my products come from...) product, but you may be able to find it in Seoul. Or you can look for a similar product. The Hyaluronic acid is the ingredient you'd want to look for. It's very hydrating. I use it before a heavy moisturinf cream (cetaphil in the tub) and it helps my very dry, dehydration-prone skin a lot.

Amazon link so you can compare to local stuff, if you can see the link: Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist 5.7floz/170ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_NPJnub06NJ807

Linked to the Amazon UK one!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rohto-Hadalabo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B000FQUGXA

This is the one I'd recommend as you have oily skin. There is an orange bottle which is the premium version for extra hydration. But given it's coming up to summer as well I think you're better off starting with the original.

Is this the Hada Labo product that everyone talks about on here?

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B000FQUGXA/166-1389385-7335902?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

or is it this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=dp_ob_title_hpc

I've only ordered electronics, books, etc from Amazon, never a face product. It's legit and safe? Do you guys order it from somewhere else?

And even though it's a toner, can I substitute it as a moisturizer since my skin doesn't have any issues with dryness?

Thanks!

Not AB (sorry) but I'm getting ready to buy the EltaMD UV Clear (amazon) because it has no alcohol and 5% niacinamide.

(SCA discussion of PA rating of UV Clear)

I'm interested in buying the Hadalabo lotion but there are two different versions being offered on Amazon:

The older version (more expensive)

The newer version

Is there any benefit in buying the older version?

I'm seconding the recommendation for the Hada Labo lotion as a thin layer underneath another moisturiser. That stuff is designed to suck water into the skin and holy moly does it work for dry, flaky nose patches! I got mine on Amazon but I think it might be in Target in the states.

https://www.amazon.ca/Rohto-Hadalabo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B00BSNBO9O

I recently bought this off of amazon. Eltamd UV Clear SPF 46, 48-Gram 1.7 oz. . It broke me out immediately. Do not recommend personally but I know it's a highly rated sunscreen

It's on Amazon Prime for $15 here.

Amazon carries lots of Hada Labo. Drugstore.com carries some too. For Hyaluronic Acid this toner is great, though often it's on Amazon Prime:

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1488124057&sr=8-2&keywords=hada+labo

Biore Watery Essence is popular sunscreen though it has a good amount of alcohol so it's not for everyone. It's lightweight though . Shiseido Senka Aging has way less alcohol if you are dryer.

+1 For Etude House Sun Milk! This is my main sunscreen right now and is normally around $8-$10 on Amazon.

You mean on Amazon and not elsewhere (in the West)?

For a hyaluronic acid serum, Hadalabo Gokujun Premium Hyaluronic Solution is head and shoulders above similar formulas, and on a $/ml basis, beats most by 10x or even 100x the price on a per ml basis.

Around $12 for 170ml where you can pay $40 for 30ml for something even close in the West.

https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Skin-Institute-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C/

I bought this hadolabo from amazon back in February but never used it. I want to test it now but realise my packaging doesn't look like that but instead this.

According to amazon I definitely bought it from the first link however the packaging isn't the same. So what do i have? haha but more importantly would you trust it?

Examples available at Canadian drugstores- Aqualia Thermal Power Serum Vichy, Indeed Laboratories Hydraluron Moisture Serum

As others have mentioned, Deciem is a Canadian company and that would be my go to- The Ordinary has a very inexpensive HA + B5 serum, and then there is the Hylamide HA Booster and NIOD MMHC serum. These can be found online or in physical stores in some of the larger centres.

AB also has some great HA products- Hada Labo Rohto Hadalabo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion Moist is a popular choice, and readily available on amazon.

Assuming that he'll want something fairly inexpensive, and not too complicated, I'd recommend the Hada Labo Foaming Cleanser. It's a good pH for skin, doesn't smell like much, and pretty easy to find (I've linked you to an Amazon listing, but you can find it on ebay, and, depending on where you live, in Japan/Koreantown stores, 99 Ranch, etc.).

For the irritation, I'd recommend something with snail, the COSRX Advanced Snail 96 Power Essence is inexpensive, unscented, etc.

Let me know if you'd like another recommendations! Hope this helps. :) Edit: also it just occurred to me that I assumed you live in the United States, and if not, these might be harder (or easier) to find.

For oil cleanser, I really like KOSE Softy Speedy. Makes my face feel soooo soft after using it. I really thought I would hate oil cleansing, but I really miss it when I travel. Comes in a pump bottle, so clean to use. Did a fair amount of research before settling on this one. It's relatively inexpensive (less than $10) and sell it on Amazon here.

When I was researching AB sunscreen on Amazon, I've come across this inexpensive Etude House sunscreen. According to the reviews it's matte and works well with make-up. Also SPF 50 and PA +++! I hope this helps!

Is there an easy way to tell the difference between Hada Labo toners on Amazon (between light/moist etc)? I've been repurchasing it for a long time now, my first 2 from this link. I went to rebuy it again and saw that there's an updated version of it, but now the name says "Moist", which it didn't before. Does this mean I've always been buying the Moist version?

I bought mine on Amazon JP. This is the link. I don't know how Amazon Global Shipping works since I live in Japan.

I got my current bottle on Amazon, I think this one: https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Skin-Institute-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?dd=QM4OHIpkfryXP5Ru2Q5kDg%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1521655872&sr=8-1&keywords=hada+labo+premium&refinements=p_97%3A1...

It was Prime and the seller had good reviews so I went for it. Was happy. Before that I bought a different bottle from another seller on Amazon and it is also fine, but took about 1.5 months to arrive because it was shipped from Japan (I am in the US).

Etude House Sunprise Mild Airy Finish Sun Milk is my first and thus far only HG product ... which thank goodness, because if there's going to be a product I REALLY like, I'm glad it's a sunscreen.

I don't think it's waterproof, but it ticks all the rest of your boxes. I tried the Biore once and thought it was ok, but I broke out a little bit after using it, so I stopped. That might have been a coincidence, though. At the time, I think it also took like a month and a half to get it through Amazon, although maybe there are better distributors now?

Otherwise, my only other comparisons are this Andalou Naturals sunscreen, and the physical and chemical Neutrogena sunscreens. The Andalou one was ok but a little greasy, and the physical Neutrogena was thick and goopy and left me greasy and white-tinged, and the Neutrogena chemical sunscreen left me shiny for at least 30 minutes and stung my eyes/tasted bitter if I accidentally got some on my lips.

The Etude House is thin, so it goes on easily. It takes all of 10 seconds to rub in. It leaves no white streaks or tint on my skin. It smells good (although the scent is perhaps a little strong.) It leaves my skin matte all day, and it doesn't break me out. It's the first and only sunscreen I've ever used that doesn't make me feel like I'm wearing sunscreen all day -- and I'm super sensitive to having stuff on my face, to the point that I hate wearing makeup because I can feel it on me all day.

My skin is only barely on the oily side of normal, but I really like Etude House Sunprise. It dries down nicely, never makes me feel oily or greasy, and doesn't sting my eyes or taste bitter if some happens to get wiped/sweated/dripped onto somewhere it doesn't belong.

I used Differin for a few weeks, and that dried me out really badly, and from that experience, I can say I wouldn't recommend the Sunprise to anyone with dry skin. It may also leave a white cast on some skin tones (it's mineral-based), although in the Amazon reviews, it seems like a fairly diverse crowd has success with it. I'm pale, but I haven't noticed any white cast from it, although I do get a bad white cast from some other mineral-based sunscreens (looking at you, Neutrogena.)

This is the amazon link for the Hada Labo Premium Lotion

But depending on where you live it might be cheaper off dokedemo or yesstyle (there are a ton of other places to get it off of, those are the two I’ve used and been happy with)

Honestly, any Korean or Japanese brand which you can get on amazon and should last you almost a year with daily use.

One that I really like is this one. I just massage it in and wipe it off with a warm towel and wring the towel out. It also emulsifies too, so it’s capable of washing away with just water as long as you still apply it with dry hands. Very very hydrating and nourishing, while also cleansing without stripping. It also makes my pores look very small for a good 12 hours!

If you want to grab something in the store and don’t want to purchase online, I always tell people jojoba oil is a good cleansing choice too.

I feel your pain. Never expected to worry about acne and wrinkles at the same time. Earlier this year I found a great one that doesn't break me out. I've used several made specifically for the face that say non-comedogenic, and they still fucked with my skin. I've been using Sunprise Mild Airy Finish for several months and it's fantastic - can't feel or see it. It's SPF 50 and $10 on Amazon. South Korea makes fantastic sunscreen. https://www.amazon.com/Etude-House-Sunprise-Finish-SPF50/dp/B00WE3XGAC

I love the Hadalabo solution very very much. I can't use the Premium version because my skin hates urea even though it's supposed to be amazing. However, I've used thiswhite label one for years and I looooooove it.

I mean right now I am using this one, and so far I think it balances the oily skin I have and not having any reactions trying this.

Etude sunscreen

I have been using this for 7 months now. I think after I'm done using it all, I will try to buy the same one. It's not like omg this is super amazing, but out of the sunscreens I've tried, this doesn't give me an oily feeling.

Give it a go, and if it doesn't work it's only $11

Is this the right product? It's been in my cart for ages.

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Have you heard of Hadalabo? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013HHJV0C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's Hyaluronic solution from Japan, it's just like hyaluronic acid from Skin-II but cheaper. You can read the reviews yourself to see how much people love it. I'm following an Aesthetic Nurse Practitioner on IG and she recommended this, and I bought it from Amazon because honestly it was 14 bucks so I thought why not. It's so good!

I purchase it from Japan to save on import costs but if you live in Canada they have it at TnT supermarket or some other Asian stores.

I think it’s also available on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Hadalabo-Skin-Institute-hyaluronic-solution/dp/B013HHJV0C

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Thanks for your great insight :) ,I currently do not have a SPF.

Im looking at this one, its #1 best seller for skin SPF, but wow it is expensive, is it worth the money? http://www.amazon.com/Eltamd-Clear-SPF-48-Gram-1-7/dp/B002MSN3QQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444300553&sr=8-1&keywords=SPF

Or should I just grab a cheaper one, is the Eltamd SPF just a marketing gimick?

You have a lot of things - possible oil clogging, powerful ingredients too. I like to take a step back when I start to break out. I have things that I always use clean and clear face wash, and cetaphil moisturizer.

I have other products like tret, spf, serums and whatever. When I introduce products like a new spf brand that makes me break out, I go backwards and reset. I use one spot neutrogena treatment on my nose only. Benzoyl Peroxide is powerful stuff. If I slather that on my cheeks, they will be so hot and bothered.

I would humbly suggest - minimizing your list. Try a new face wash, dry your face carefully, get some hydrating lotion with hylauronic acid Netrogena has a nice light gel one. Then something Healing like niacinamide like CeraVe PM Moisturizer

Idk if that makes sense, I was the person who posted about washing your pillow case. You came up again on the feed so I thought I put this out there too. I hope you update us with results with whatever you decide to do.

Basically, you wash your face using a cleanser made out of oil as your face wash. Sounds crazy, but the oil does a better job getting your skin's oil out of your pores when you splash water on it and rub it a bit. After rinsing it off with water, you can use a regular old gel cleanser to make sure none of the oil cleanser is still on your skin.

Here's a pretty solid daily use oil cleanser that's hella cheap and does a great job getting makeup off:

https://www.amazon.com/KOSE-SOFTYMO-Speedy-Cleansing-230ml/dp/B000V2FBAQ/ref=asc_df_B000V2FBAQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312148100117&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3629398528540188335&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hv...

DHC has another one I've seen a lot of folks recommend on here.

Bc it looks like it can be cystic acne I would recommend you to look for a derm, sometimes only professionals can help.

If you can't go to one or until you do, you may try during the day using a cleanser with salicylic acid like La Roche-Posay Effaclar Purifying, massage into your skin and let it sit for 1/2 min before rising and using a light gel moisturizer like Neutrogena Hydro Boost Water Gel. This sunscreen is indicated for oily skin, and it feels dry, you may try it ( https://www.amazon.com/Sunprise-Sebum-free-Non-Sticky-Protection-Sunscreen/dp/B00WE3XGAC/ref=sr_1_40?crid=2BPLQ2K0W0UA3&keywords=biore+sunscreen&qid=1668471554&sprefix=biore+sins%2Caps%2C209&sr=8-40)

at night you can clean again with La Roche-Posay Effaclar Purifying, and use something that got a chemical exfoliant or retinol, like the ordinary glycolic acid toner or pixi retinol tonic, but this only can help if you use sunscreen, or it'll worsen your hyperpigmentation scaring! And the use the light gel moisturizer.

Been using Hadalabo Hyalurionc Solution as a daily moisturizer for years, but between a formula change I'm wary about and the fact my most recent shipment was open/used when it arrived, I'm seeking an alternative available to me in the US.

I have combination skin, dry around the periphery with an occasionally oily T-zone, haven't had any notable sensitivity issues, my main skin concerns are uneven tone/PIH after small cycle breakouts. I don't wear makeup, so my routine is cleanse with Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser, moisturize with Hadalabo, Suntique Sunblock in morning, in evening cleanse + moisturize as above but no sunblock. Wednesdays a dead sea mud mask ~15-20 minutes, Sundays ACV + Bentonite for ~10 minutes.

I'm particularly looking for something that, like the Hadalabo stuff, didn't leave a greasy/heavy feel on my skin after application. That said, as the air gets dry I'm also somewhat considering a "lighter" daytime moisturizer to wear under the sunblock and then a heavy duty night-time moisturizer to combat drying skin in which fase it doesn't need to feel so light, so if anyone has recommendations along those lines I'm all ears!

straight up changed my life it removes my makeup and super waterproof mascara so easily and then I follow with my normal cleanser. I just do it in the shower lol 1 step kinda thing

i always use tret after my moisturizer, after my face is ‘dry’/no longer moist. i pretty much put it on about 15 min before getting into bed.

CeraVe PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion | Night Cream with Hyaluronic Acid and Niacinamide | Ultra-Lightweight, Oil-Free Moisturizer for Face | 3 Ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_QMCDF7373895ZDW6VWAB

you can find CeraVe at most grocery stores and pharmacies. for example, walmart, publix, walgreens, cvs, target, etc

https://www.amazon.com/EltaMD-Acne-Prone-Mineral-Based-Dermatologist-Recommended/dp/B002MSN3QQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=58882616314&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh6_3x7X3-gIVl7jICh3jhQsyEAAYAiAAEgKmRPD_BwE&hvadid=274713932564&hvdev=m&hvlocp...

I have Retin-A from the dermatologist that I use every other day to every 3rd day. At night I use a PM moisturizer (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365DABC).

That's kinda the "big 3 of skincare" I think. AM SPF moisturizer, Retin-A, and PM moisturizer. There's a bunch of other stuff out there that's meant to solve specific skin issues which I don't have (like bags under eyes, etc). But this works for me.

Glad I could help somewhat :)

This is the hydrating toner I personally use:

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Hadalabo-Gokujun-Hyaluronic/dp/B00BSNBO9O

It’s called “Hada Labo Gokujun Hyaluronic Lotion”. Japanese people call toners as lotions so the name is confusing. But I live in Japan and it’s only about $5 here whereas in US Amazon it’s nearly triple the price so I don’t really recommend buying it in the US because it seems that CeraVe has their own version!

https://www.amazon.com/CeraVe-Non-Alcoholic-Niacinamide-Fragrance-Free-Comedogenic/dp/B09LKXR62L/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1M4QM1H8OOUO0&keywords=hydrating+toner+for+face&qid=1661297576&sprefix=hydrating+toner%2Caps%2C670&sr=8-3

Dab 5-7sh drops into your palm, rub your hands together and apply and pat onto your face. Pat into it’s sticky ish and wait until it absorbs into your skin to apply your face lotion.

As for working out, I would use a cleanser cause if sweat mixed with SPF makes me feel bleh. Your remaining SPF lotion may still need embedded into the skin and I wouldn’t want to apply toner after that.

If you didn’t apply your lotion with SPF before working out, rinsing thoroughly is OK I think.

CeraVe’s cleanser doesn’t seem to be harsh from what I remember when I lived in the states, but, I think what my esthetician and dermatologist would do is use a cleansing oil instead. You’d keep your skin moisture but also remove everything else.

Best answer would probably be:

SPF (then work out) -> cleansing oil -> toner -> moisturizer-> SPF

Didn’t apply SPF prior -> water rinse -> toner -> moisturizer -> SPF

Also, I’d avoid taking too hot showers and letting the water hit your face for too long. It’d dehydrate your skin faster and acne marks’ redness lingers much longer.

I also have oily skin. Have you tried Etude House or Misscha sun milks? Etude House in particular is a life changer for me.

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https://www.amazon.com/Sunprise-Sebum-free-Non-Sticky-Protection-Sunscreen/dp/B00WE3XGAC

Try the CeraVé PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion. It’s lightweight (which I love) but does the job. I actually use it for both morning and night. Not shiny at all. Good price on Amazon right now. $13.97 US dollars.

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I use Etude House or Misscha on my face, Biore or Blue Lizard on everything else. I like Etude House better than Misscha, which I probably won't repurchase. I also use Supergoop SPF eye cream.

Etude House link: https://www.amazon.com/Sunprise-Sebum-free-Non-Sticky-Protection-Sunscreen/dp/B00WE3XGAC

Besides the obvious (retinoids and spf) this Kikumasamune product which saved my barrier impaired skin and made me want to try all other products from the brand.

it’s a bit pricey, but I break out easily and found this to be the best for my skin

Good to hear! I'm glad it worked.

The UVMune sunscreens are designed to be very water resistant, and can be difficult to dully remove with water soluble cleanser alone. My skin used to get irritated and breakout when I was using the previous versions (Skaka fluid), until I started using a cleansing oil. So it might be worth giving it a try. I think if you apply the cleansing oil to dry skin, to break down the sunscreen film, emulsify with some lukewarm water, rinse, then follow up with your regular cleanser (double cleansing) to remove the oil, you should be ok. I don't have acne prone skin, so I can't say for certain that the oil won't break you out. You could give it a try.

This is the cleansing oil I use here. I like it because it's very affordable, and easily accessible for me. It doesn't leave a residue my skin, but I still follow up with a regular cleanser.

This is the one I was using previously here. I really like it too, but it's more expensive, and I have to order it online and get it shipped. I'm sure you can get it lots of places. I just linked to the first link that came up.

I have also tried the Hada Labo cleansing oil, but I didn't like it. Other people do.

Wonderful products! Thank you for sharing SmootherThanAStorm.

Question about your sun screen choice. Why not Elta MD.

https://www.amazon.com/EltaMD-Acne-Prone-Mineral-Based-Dermatologist-Recommended/dp/B002MSN3QQ

Does anyone know which moisturizer from LRP would be most similar to Cerave PM Lotion? I use it day and night. I like the weight (pretty light - heavier creams don't work well for me). I like that it has niacinamide.

I am using LRP Anthelios shaka sunscreen, which has been great! But I am totally overwhelmed by the amount of moisturizing products they have. 😰

I use this one! I’ve used the non speedy version as well and it’s slightly more nourishing but takes longer to rinse off so I use this one. It’s cheap, a little goes a long way, and it takes off everything! I sweat a lot and use a lot of sunscreen so it’s a must for me.