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I used a relatively cheap recorder, the Zoom H1 (Amazon link)
Set it to the highest recording quality, which is 24 bit/96 kHz WAV. The key is getting the levels right so there's no clipping. I intentionally set the levels very low, the highest peaks only hitting about -12 db on the meter, knowing I could raise it up later. I didn't want to sit there obsessing over the levels the whole time, that wouldn't allow me to enjoy the show.
After I copied it to the computer, I normalized it, cut the tracks apart, and had a friend who's an audio engineer tweak it as well. He added a compressor and tweaked the default settings a little. That's it. Normalize, compressor, export and convert. No EQ or anything.
Given how small and cheap the recorder is, and how little processing was done after the fact, I am really impressed by how well it came out. It's certainly not perfect, but for spending literally zero dollars on this (borrowed recorder from a friend, used free software) I think it came out pretty damn good.
If your computer has only one audio Jack, it’s a mic/headphone hybrid. The technical aspects of the hardware are explained above.
You can get a trs to trrs adaptor for pretty cheap so you can run the audio in to the computer. But I don’t know if that will match the contact points you want to connect inside the computer.
Audio input will be mono, not stereo
Best bet is to invest in an interface.
A zoom h1 has a stereo line in that you can plug your PO into. Then plug it into your computer and pull files like a hard drive. Or, it could work as an interface. I use the H5 for that purpose.
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> "whats my best way on recording it outside and walking with it?"
Don't. That's not what it's for.
Go get yourself a digital recorder, that's what they're designed for. Zoom H1 - $84.95 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-ZH1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK
I have the gx85 and I love this camera! It is compact, light and the video quality is amazing. The only problem I have with it is you can’t connect an external mic. The audio isn’t terrible in camera but if audio is a priority you’ll need buy a portable audio recorder or something similar!
Amazing starter mic:
As others have said, you seem to drop the end of your words. You can google speech therapy excersises to help with that. It just takes practice.
Also, there is a lot of echo in your audio, which I assume comes from recording inside. It makes the audio sound like you’re in a can. You can mitigate a lot of this with 1) A good mic like the one I listed, and 2) Get a thick blanket, a moving blanket, a quilt, something along those lines, hang one on any walls that won’t be in frame for your video. It will soften the echo’s in the room.
Overall you have good voice, so work on your diction and setup the area (your studio?) where you do you work for sound and you will see a lot of improvement. A room with carpet on the floor also helps.
Im not sure if this is the correct sub. I am looking to start recording live shows when i go to them, when you look at archives.org it is filled with 100s of old dead shows. I would like to be able to take our own little bit of history to keep for the future just like they did
So my question is will something like this work https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
Try your cell phone with a decent recording app (have no idea). If it's not good enough get a field recorder: https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=lp_486500011_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1492004162&sr=1-1
I have an older version of this. Works great for vocal/field or music recordings.
I carry a notebook and pen too, but when I'm doing my daily two hour commute, that isn't handy.
Don't fuss too much, there are people that make videos on their phones. Start that way, if you decide you like it - then you can upgrade.
If you just can't bring yourself to do mono videos, you could start with a Zoom H1 http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK
Like Figgle_bottom said, use a smartphone if you have one. A Zoom H1 is $99, and will get you fantastic audio quality
Depending on your phone, you could spend a bit of your budget on some sort of compact mount that will connect the H1 to your phone. This way you can run a short cord from the H1 into your phone (if the phone will take an external mic) and you can even monitor with headphones if you want to make sure you're not distorting the audio.
It's probably a bit more cumbersome than you'd like, but you'll be surprised by the results.
Ah, my bad. I'm a European and aren't used to the US model names, didn't realise there was a difference.
In the case instead of the video mic, how about a Zoom h1?
It's got decent built in microphones, and can be attached to a lapel microphone or a shotgun microphone later on.
The Zoom H1 works well for me: cheap ($100), tiny, long battery life, and sounds decent. Though having re-read your question, I may have misread "portable recorder for general field use" as "portable field recorder".
For that price you would probably be better off with something like a Zoom H1.
It has much better pre-amps compared to your camera, a solid built-in mic, and it has the added benefit of not having to be attached to your camera.
Later on if you buy an actual mic, plugging it into an external recorder like the H1 will give you much better sound quality than plugging it into the camera.
They start around the $95 mark.
The H1 will do the trick. It has a stereo minijack input that will take mic and line level inputs.
Check it on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1336793214&sr=8-3
With a bit of tweaking (I haven't done it myself) you can set it up to record audience noise as well.
That Sennheiser you linked to could be mounted to the end of a broom handle for a makeshift boom mic rig. Or just mount a Zoom H1 on said broomstick. The closer you get the mic to your sound source, the better. You really don't want the mic on the camera. It's the main reason the on-camera mic sounds bad -- it's not close enough to your sound source.
Nearly entire show recorded from dead center of the 14th row with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003QKBVYK/
At that budget, I'd recommend a portable recorder, like the Zoom H1: It'll get the job done, and will work just fine for this purpose.
I googled its price, out of curiosity, Amazon is selling one for 109 dollars.
Of course, if quality is really not an issue, then yes, you can always just use your phone; Just don't expect professional-level quality.
Lol. Check out a handheld recorder. Any handheld recorder like this is going to have a better mic than a phone so find one you like.
I used a Zoom H1 for these. If you search around you can probably find one for less than this. I think I paid $80 about 5 years ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-ZH1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK
I don’t know why I feel the need to nitpick this, but for future reference; you do not need to write your entire life story before asking a question.
For the basics, a sound recorder and lav will be incredibly useful.
This is the Zoom H1 recorder, under $100 and fits in your pocket
I would recommend that you always keep these together in a bag, no matter what else you have, it doesn’t hurt to be prepared with a backup
From here, I’d say it doesn’t hurt to have a bigger recorder like the Tascam DR-40
I’m not very well versed in audio, so other people will have better recommendations from here -but if you’re just starting out, these will always be useful. They’re also extremely bang-for-your-buck items.
Since the Tascam takes XLR input, from here you could get a shotgun condenser mic, and have a boom setup, as well as a independent lav setup. I hope this helps, and yes these links are all amazon affiliate haha
Audio audio audio. If you can get better audio especially when interviewing people, it will make this video 10x more enjoyable to watch.
There are other cheaper options, but a Zoom H1 would be a great option for you: https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-ZH1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK (Get a wind dead cat too!)
I use one of these and put it in my tank bag side pocket, add the audio in during editing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003QKBVYK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you're on a low budget a Zoom H1 and a Rode Lav mic will work great, with that mic you'll need an adaptor as it is designed to work with phone ports
I've used my phone in the past yeah, definitely does the job! These days I use a Zoom H1 and just capture sounds on my commute to University or out in the garden etc
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/u/liptonaround - sadly, I would get neither. Here's why:
Zoom H1 plus Rode SmartLav+
The SmartLav+ is a TRRS mic intended for cell phones (which is why they have to include an adapter cable).
You can get a $99.99 Zoom H1 plus a $29 JK MIC-J 044 TRS lav (compatible without an adapter) with better frequency response (20-20,000 Hz versus 60-18,000Hz) for a lower price.
Zoom H4n Pro plus RodeLink Wireless Filmmaker Kit
For less than the price of a $199.99 H4n Pro plus a $399 RodeLink Wireless Filmmaker Kit, you can get a $269.99 Zoom H5 and a $269.95 Saramonic UHF UWMic10 wireless lav mic.
The UWMic10 is comparable to the Sennheiser G3 for a lot less money - nice review here. And here is a side-by-side comparison with the Sennheiser G3.
Personally, I would spend the extra money for the H5/wireless setup. The H1's lack of XLR inputs is a challenge. You'll probably end up replacing it in the next few months, which will cost you more money in the long run.
Hope this is helpful and good luck with your audio upgrade!
Buy these:
amazon.com/dp/B003QKBVYK
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01L3B5PBI
Use your phone to record video and sync up with some sort of application
Thanks! Would any zoom model work? Like this one?
I recommend the Zoom H1 for $99.99 (or $94.35 in white) [Referral Links].
This is the recorder I started with, and it is a very good value for your money.
Hope this is helpful and good luck!
I mostly record audio only. I have a lavalier microphone from Giant Squid Audio Lab plugged into a broken (mics busted off, mp3-wav switch is permanently on wav) Zoom H1. It get's my voice clean, and the mic is strong enough to pick up the audience.
Digital recorder like the Zoom H1, no wireless of any kind onboard.
After listening to the most recent episode of Song Exploder, I've been on a Kusanagi bender for nearly a week now (direct link to the episode I'm referring to).
I won't pretend to have any of the skills of these guys but a lot of what I took from that episode is that they just record a handful of common objects for their percussion (stick breaking, dropping coins, kids at play, etc). Don't get me wrong I, like you, immediately looked for sample packs including these sounds rather than doing the sensible thing and just buying something like a Zoom H1 :)
Anyways I felt I should mention that as it's probably the best thing.
As for sample packs, I had Mode Audio's "Undercover", from a sale they did a while ago, and rediscovered that.
I've also been digging Loops de la Creme and will probably pick up their "Chimes" and "Bell Empire" packs when they go on sale. That company seems to have lots of organic sounding stuff that could fit in the general vein of Odesza, if used very sparsely.
I'm sure later in life I'll look back and say "why the hell do I have over a hundred dollars of bell sounds". C'est la vie.
Read the Zoom H1 user reviews on Amazon. At nearly 800 reviews, you know somebody likes that recorder. The Zoom iQ7 has only about 70 reviews, I assume because it's limited to iPhones (the one I linked to is the lightning port version).
Here's a review of four mics, including the Zoom H2n and Zoom iQ5 so you can see how the quality goes. Note that the review runs 4 times to let you compare the quality of all mics.
You can always record sound with something like a Zoom H1. You'll have to sync audio in post, but it will sound better than a mic plugged into the camera.
If I were you I would use an external and just sync it up later http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1460039412&sr=8-8&keywords=zoom
/u/arcticrobot - you have gotten some good advice here. You might also think about putting a recorder on a stand near the subject, recording high quality sound and synchronizing it to your video in the edit.
Here is a picture of a $99.99 Zoom H1 recorder with a $28.50 windscreen for outdoor use, mounted on a $13.76 light stand with a $24.95 shock mount.
This works well when placed close to the sound source.
Whatever you do, you will want to get the mic or recorder off the camera and as close as possible to your subject without getting it in the frame.
Camera mounted mics are only a little better than your camera's built-in mic.
Hope this is helpful and good luck with your project!
A question before I start; will you be using an editor to sync things up in post or would you rather take things together(audio and video) and have them all sorted out at one time?
Here's a list of things that I think would be beneficial, but not an encompassing list. If you're trying to go for a cheap list that could still get the job done, I find that these items have decent reviews on Amazon and websites and they do offer a good starting point for a budget.
- The Camera: Canon EOS M2 ($250)
I feel like the Canon EOS M2 would be a strong contender. It is actually a mirrorless camera that has the same sensor as that of the more expensive T3i. Due to it's lack of popularity with photographers due to the slower autofocus, it has seen multiple price reductions. Although it contains autofocusing issues in the photography modes, it's video modes are what really helps this camera out. You have a good starting lens with an 18-55mm lens, which may be wide enough for that room at 18, but it could even be close enough for a closer image. You can even be more technical and add in other features. Also this camera has a direct mic-in line for use of an external mic, like the shotgun mic below.
- The Audio: Zoom H1 Portable Audio Recorder $99 OR TAKSTAR SGC-598 $29.99
Audio is key here. You want to be able to hear the pastor as he gives sermons, so you have two general models. You can place the portable recorder closer to him, giving you crisp audio at a very minimal distance, or you can attach a shotgun microphone to the camera and pick it up from a distance further away. The only thing is, would you rather have the camera do it all for you or would you rather have to sync up the audio in editing? The Zoom mic is nice because you can purchase one of these ($21.38) and mic the pastor up before service to give a very crisp lapel audio.
- The SD Cards: Sandisk 64GB 80mb/s ($22.49)
This should be a given.
- Power and Adapters: AC Adapter ($15.50) OR 2-Pack Spare Batteries($28.99)
You can choose to have it either plugged in the whole time during recording, or you can have it run off of batteries. Your personal preference.
You requested a tripod for the ease of use.
Given that you live in the US, after taxes, you're essentially looking at a $500 setup for all of that equipment. That may not be the best equipment for people or even be suggested by anyone else here, but that is just my $0.02.
Source: Use the EOS M1 and most of the gear listed.
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK?tag=thepodhos-20
Raise some funds for one of these bad boys.
This should be your recorder, and if you don't use an external microphone the built in one should be good enough for your needs.
Transfer your recordings to a computer (any computer) and upload.
Need something more fancy: http://www.amazon.com/Roland-R-05-Studio-WAVE-Recorder/dp/B003IJ3WIW?tag=thepodhos-20
Edit: Even more fancy? http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B001QWBM62
Between 5:45 and 6:00 AM on Saturday morning during the 12th Planet and friends Good Life set I lost a black audio recorder. Pretty bummed it was never turned in to lost and found. Anyways, I would love to get it back, there are lots of sets I've recorded on it (including the set I lost it at) which I still haven't been able to put on soundcloud because of timing.
Here is what it looks like: http://imgur.com/a/YYQO7
This is the amazon page for it: http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK
Please y'all, if you were there or know anyone who was at that set can you please ask them, all I want to do is post the Break Science live band set and that crazy VIP set on soundcloud.
Gotcha.
I would probably steer you in the direction of a portable audio recorder, specifically the Zoom H1. You can use the H1 as a USB microphone as seen here.
Then, when you're in the field, you can use the H1 to record audio nicely as well. Start the video recording AND start the H1 recording and sync the audio up in post while you're editing (tip: clap or make another sharp loud noise when you start and you can line the H1 audio up visually with the camera audio).
Actually, smart phones aren't the best device for recording EVP. Even if you do catch something good, because of all of the other functions built in to the phone, someone will always poke holes in your evidence. It's best to use a stand-alone recording device, and the best one you can afford.
I carry 2 devices that I use under different circumstances:
The Zoom H1 is a great device, but it's EXTREMELY sensitive, so it's only used when it can be mounted on a tripod. It picks up everything, so it cannot be used while holding it in your hand. You'd be amazed how much the device moving around in your hand sounds like a voice whispering GET OUT!!!
The Olympus WS-110 is a great recorder to drop into your pocket when you're investigating. It's less sensitive than the H1, but still makes extremely clean, clear recordings.
Always use the best dedicated recorder that you can afford. The one built into your phone, or the $19 Walmart voice recorder are not good choices.
EDIT: I should also mention that one should never hold a recorder in their hand while recording for EVP. Always set them down on a stable surface. You want to eliminate any chance of contamination.
Buy one of these. It's pretty decent for the entry price. Put on your headphones to listen to the beat, record your vocals separately from the music, overlay vocals on top.
No need to be a dick man- No one commented on your song because the quality isn't there. Don't spit venom at the dude trying to give you advice.
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