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Canary Mail?
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21 reviews of this app found across Reddit:
Almost 99,99999% of ios email apps use own servers at some point. Even Canary uses Google analytics and its opt out (i think). Best would be to use built in ios Mail app. Download Posteo profile to easily set up mail, contacts and calendars or just mail... I was also looking for email app but gave up. If using Canary turn push off cause it relays your email to their servers. https://canarymail.io/privacy.html
I think the problem is even worse - apparently they aren't respecting their privacy policy. They state:
> In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac, iOS and Android accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content. All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
> To communicate with you about the Services: If you sign up to receive news from Canary, we may send you emails regarding our latest products and services.
However, your email address will be *automatically* sent to their server upon adding your email account to the app. The process doesn't ask for explicit user consent as they only ask you to agree with their privacy policy.
Note: This happens even when I set up my account with "fetch" mode.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211116063142/https://canarymail.io/privacy-policy.html
Canary mail is a nice halfway point between spark and fairemail. It's got a much more modern and usable interface than fair... but it's less questionable than spark. They gate off a few features behind a paid version. It's a one time purchase though if you decide you want them and you'll get to try them for a little while when you first get it to see if you do. I find that it actually seems to fetch my emails faster than the dedicated gmail app at times so that's neat.
Can check out their site to read about it and there's a link to the play store for the android version right at the top.
I would suggest trying the 30 day free trial you get when you download off the App Store then purchase the full version if you like it. I stuck with Apple mail for now until I redo my email setup. Also pricing info in there FAO:
https://canarymail.io/privacy-policy.html
>The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS or Android choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server.
I'm leaning toward [Canary Mail](https://canarymail.io/). Privacy and security are first class design considerations, and it's got good reviews.
Anybody have experience with it to share?
Unfortunately they store your personal data if you use their push services:
> The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
Yes. That would be good! https://canarymail.io/ if you click on their coming soon icon, they have a reminder email setup so they can email you on beta test. I have a samsung and there used to be a program that allowed running linux in dex, which i guess then could by extension be used to run macos or windows in a vmware, which i guess could sync it up, using the bridge client on them, but its a lot of effort, and i don't even think linux on dex is maintained anymore.
Probably as secure as anything else. Is it private? It could be if you only use Fetch notifications. It's not private at all if you use Push
>In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content.All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
>The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
If you have "Fetch" notifications on, there's a few options.
Default iOS Mail app store credentials on the device if you use 'fetch' notifications, which means they don't get sent to a server.
CanaryMail. See their privacy policy.
>In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content.All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
>The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
>No data is transmitted to our servers if you do not have "Real Time Mailbox Monitoring" enabled for an account.
Keep in mind a few things though: - Apps are closed-source - At least the iOS app has Facebook and Appflyer 3rd party trackers
> In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content. All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
> The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
This true but if you have "Fetch" notifications on, multiple clients store credentials on device and doesn't transfer them to their servers.
Default iOS Mail app store credentials on the device if you use 'fetch' notifications, which means they don't get sent to a server.
CanaryMail does the same. See their privacy policy.
>In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content.All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
>The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
>No data is transmitted to our servers if you do not have push notifications enabled for an account.
Do you have push notifications for canary? If so, your email address and password are stored on Canary servers, and all incoming mail is temporarily stored on Canary servers before being delivered to your device.
> if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications [...] Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS
https://canarymail.io/privacy.html
Worrying, though they say they only store this "temporarily" they state it is only deleted once you disable push notifications, not once the mail is delivered. This suggests they store the emails indefinitely, even after delivered, unless the user disables push notifications.
Thanks for the link. However, I‘m not sure if I buy it to that. Even if OP stated not to have any issues with Indian companies, explicitly mentioning Indian tech support scam calls left me with a strange connotation of that post.
Here’s Canary’s privacy statement and to me it sounds pretty reasonable, and that they only process information which is needed for the service.
I really enjoy the application, but if you don’t use encryption, then one of the most obvious differences to Apple’s stock email app is the colour coding for emails in the unified inbox, which is quite helpful.
Anyway, their business is to sell the application (which is not cheap!) and probably not their user’s data. Creating distrust would ruin their business model.
Default iOS Mail app store credentials on the device if you use 'fetch' notifications, which means they don't get sent to a server.
CanaryMail seems to do the same. See their privacy policy.
>In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content.All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
>The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device.
>No data is transmitted to our servers if you do not have push notifications enabled for an account.
Postbox is a fine Mail client, pretty close to Apple Mail in terms of user interface; using it myself, never had any problems with it (license price is for a lifetime license, all upgrades are free after the initial purchase):
Canary Mail is another fine alternative; but if you hated Airmail, you'll probably dislike Canary as well:
So that you know, their Privacy section reads: > (...) The only scenario in which we will temporarily store this data is if users of Canary Mail for iOS choose to enable Push notifications when they receive email. In that case, Canary will temporarily store your email address, credentials, sender, subject line, and first line of the message on our server. All data is cleared from our server when notifications are disabled on Canary Mail for iOS or when a user switches from using Push notifications to Fetch mode, in which case all data is stored on the device (...) — Via.
Their ownership is also mentioned briefly.
Read the app page. End to end encryption and the app doesn't phone home to another server.
Or just read the privacy policy
> By default, Canary does not collect or store the content of your personal email messages, whether incoming or outgoing. In order to function properly, Canary Mail for Mac and for iOS accesses your name, email address, credentials (such as OAuth access tokens for email servers which support them), and email content. All of this information is stored on your device and is never transferred to our servers.
You have to take them at their word, but you might look at Canary: https://canarymail.io/ -- it's the best implementation I've seen of PGP on iOS, and they're not storing credentials or copying mail to their own servers like so many others.
The built-in Mail.app is your other option.
I sometime use Canary (https://canarymail.io/). It's pretty good but it's still under active development as they carry out tons of updates all the time. They also have an iOS app in the works although it's been like that for ages now.
Canary Mail for macOS is very promising and seems to have a high commitment to privacy, but still lacks the polish of Spark and PolyMail or the poweruser features of Airmail. It's still in beta though and there's a long waiting list for their iOS client.