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Nah - we're coming-up on the end of the current crypto bubble cycle, and so we're approaching peak hype. It's possible that we do end-up heading towards a decentralised internet - which could be something rad like Tim Berners-Lee's Solid Project, or some dystopian bleakness out of a Neal Stephenson novel with additional layers on the Ethereum network etc - but if we do end-up going down that route it's still a long way off from being useful to the general public, and there's no need to add learning it to your 'to-do' list in the near future unless it's something you're personally very excited about.
Article is from 2018, so that doesn't bode particularly well, but it does actually exist and there are some apps for it.
Sign ups: https://solidproject.org//users/get-a-pod Apps: https://www.inrupt.com/solidApps/solid-app-listing
All it takes, I guess, are a few dedicated techies and a good idea to get this more popular.
Agree. You should checkout the project Solid by Tim Berners Lee - decentralised data access where you'd be hosting your own data and sharing with services on need basis in a secure manner.
Tim Berners-Lee is talking about it. The idea is called Web 3.0 aka The Semantic Web aka The Decentralized Web.
More reading:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2020/01/06/what-is-web-3-0/?sh=33efc1e758df
https://phys.org/news/2019-03-web-decentralised-internet-free.html
No, we aren't being asked to hand over all our data to a single company. The proposed solution is to have multiple competing companies that can host your information. You can also choose to host your own information on a private server. You control access to your information, no matter which provider you choose.
Think of it like setting up a web server. If you have little technical knowledge, you can use a full-service company like Weebly or Squarespace. If you want to create your own, but don't want to maintain the hardware, use something like DigitalOcean or AWS. Or you can install Linux on a PC in your home, if you want complete control of everything.
Check out the website for more info: https://solidproject.org/faqs
There is already work being done to get there, and has been for several years now. Instead of being argumentative - it would benefit you in this industry to stay informed. The decentralized web is in the works - thanks in large part to the guy that brought us the web in the first place.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2020/01/06/what-is-web-3-0/?sh=33efc1e758df
https://phys.org/news/2019-03-web-decentralised-internet-free.html
Notwithstanding the fact that some “influencers” should be “censored” — there are plenty of ideas too stupid and/or repugnant to be allowed an audience, especially in a population too stupid and/or ignorant to discern good ideas from bad — the Fediverse is about the closest thing you’ll find to a workable solution, because complete decentralization while still retaining any form of privacy and control over your own footprint is extremely capital-H Hard. Tim-Berners Lee has been working on it, but a network of individual-sized always-on servers (his project’s notion of “pods”) is an infrastructure scaling problem that’s at least as big as the human population. The Fediverse model (one server per each micro-community, with federation between communities) gets you decent performance (everyone isn’t waiting on the slowest individual user’s connection) while distributing the data across (more or less granular) communities, which gives you at least some resistance to centralized censorship, though it does let each community “censor” (or “sensibly ignore”) other communities or individual members.
Personally I’d love to see a truly distributed and immutable social network… where each of us has a permanent copy of every single stupid thing every other person has ever uttered… no more censorship, including self-censorship; if you say or do something repugnant (or which becomes repugnant) then that’s an albatross you put around your own neck and you’ll never be able to avoid the social repercussions of having said or done it. For one thing there’d be a lot fewer influencers out there in need of censorship.
The main resource is https://solidproject.org/
That said, it's really focused on developers for now. There's a list of apps, but most of them are more of a proof-of-concept.
AFAIK NFTs don't care about standards, the app that's using the NFT does. What you're describing is more akin to https://solidproject.org/ this project by the world wide web's founder.
Tim Berners-Lee is already working on an actual web3 solution that isn't blockchain bollocks, and you can use it (and contribute to it) now! It's called the Solid Project.
That’s the semantic web - or like Tim Berner Lee’s Solid project (https://solidproject.org/).
Crypto web3 is something else. As far as I can make out people think we can run major social media sites as distributed apps on Ethereum or something. Plus we’ll add DeFi and NFTs to the social media platforms.
Though the details and implementations are still being worked out, there are systems in development that allow you to store all of your own data locally in your home and you give permission to other services to use it transiently. Though there'd need to be work done somehow to ensure that data isn't being logged anyway I think limiting how much data companies can hold on to about you is the best way. One such example at the moment is Solid.
Does anyone here has any experience with Solid? I wonder if it would be useful to contribute to it.
My first feeling is that even if it could end up working well it may be waste of time if it's true that we will loose access to internet anyway. It seems a decade too late. Creating spaces outside of internet and technology in general seems to me like much better use of time and use the internet that we have (as broken as it is) to push people towards those more human spaces.
This is to true in any field. Initial fast growth phase followed by a plateau.
> I can't name even one really new and "revolutionary enough" to be worth citing...
Solid comes to mind.
Just going to leave this here...
Tim Berners Lee has as platform that allows users to take control of their own data. It needs companies to adopt and implement though for it to gather mainstream momentum.
An upcoming great alternative to Facebook or Twitter is Solid/INRUPT: https://solidproject.org/
The idea is, you have your own personal online datastore (pod) with all the data you want in it. It is your pod, you decide where it is stored (you could store it on your own server or at a trusted place),and which application has access to what data. This limits the social medias opportunity to do what they want with your data, and lets you be in charge of it.
There already exusts social media and chat applications built on solid.
> Would you mind pointing me to twitter accounts of people working for Solid?
A list of inrupters is here. I'm not sure if that's the best part of understanding where it's going though.
Another way to do that that you might consider is signing up for the mailinglist, through the form at the bottom of https://solidproject.org.
> I a 100% fail to recognize FB with no ownership of the data a user share inside its services. Even in my wettest dreams where we reset Facebook and use DIDs to recreate the social networks spheres, I still understand all social networks would retain property of the data. (...) Isn't that so? Does this makes sense to you?
That's why I said I consider it unlikely that Facebook would adopt Solid. The incentive really has to come from customer and/or legislative demands. That is, unfortunately, not a problem that Solid by itself solves, or can solve, because it's not a technical problem.
> Also, how are DIDs key recovery conversations nowadays? Last time I've checked the sole way to recover a private key was still the 12 words model. How are things on this?
Unfortunately, I'm not too involved with the DID work, so I can't give a satisfying answer here...
>WebID allows you to connect to anyone else no matter who their identity provider is. source
Is the rough idea at least. Hadn't heard about Mastodon to be honest.
There is a long list of apps in various states of completeness on the new website. Many of them are just prototypes that no longer work, however, so it could certainly do with some cleaning up.
If you'd like to try a simple working app, try e.g. Notepod (I made it).