> ProtonVPN for Android is the world’s only Android VPN app that is completely free and doesn’t have bandwidth limits. Unlike other “free” Android VPNs, ProtonVPN has no ads and does not secretly sell your browsing data.
Read the article dude,
>Free services these days are rightfully regarded with a bit of suspicion. After all, Google and Facebook, which are “free,” are actually charging you by compromising your privacy to advertisers. But ProtonVPN is different. We are the only free VPN with no bandwidth limits, data caps, or privacy invading ads. We do not install malware on your device or sell your data to third parties (we have a strict no-logs policy). Instead our free VPN service is supported by paid plans, which come with advanced security features and higher speeds.
Furthermore, it got audited by Mozilla, and they are the same devs behind ProtonMail — they’re more than reliable.
Relay Pro for reddit
Spotify / SoundCloud / Phonograph for music
Evernote for note-taking
Snapseed + VSCO for photo editing
Action Launcher for Launcher
SwiftKey for Keyboard
Firefox + Addons for Internet
Youtube Vanced for PiP Youtube
ProtonVPN for VPN use.
Some will likely don't like that this essentially is Mozilla advertising an external service.
But to me, at least, that is outweighed by the fact that for Mozilla this is an additional revenue stream which means they are less reliant on their deal with Google.
And for users this means that a VPN service, in a sea of questionable options, has now been scrutinized and recommended by Mozilla. Which means that ProtonVPN gains an even greater level of trust as well as the promotion Mozilla provides.
So a good VPN will grow while being closely monitored by Mozilla for any possible, albeit unlikely, future shenanigans.
So users can be fairly confident that it's a good, and safe, choice if one wants to use a VPN service.
Partnership with ProtonVPN. Good company, fast speeds. I use it at hotels when I travel to prevent snooping on open WiFi.
EDIT: Don’t buy through Firefox though, they charge $10 for the same thing that Proton sells for $8.
Andy here, I literally just had a call with Jason Donenfeld this afternoon about this. Yes, it is planned, most likely sometime next year. ProtonVPN's infra and user base has grown a lot in the past 12 months, we just released the iOS app, and we're working on preparing to make all the apps open source (as that's one of our firm goals we have outlined for 2019), so we've got a lot of plates spinning at the same time on the VPN side (and this is without getting into all the projects happening on the Mail side). We need a couple months to stabilize things and then we will start working in this direction.
Hi, ProtonMail team here. We have responded previously to this, it's a smear campaign being run against us by Private Internet Access since ProtonVPN is competing with them.
You can find our response here: _and_tesonet/
I used a throwaway Pi image and connected through ProtonVPN. I then asked for the english version of the page and proceeded to click on pre-sale. First of all, the page switched back to spanish as it is the only option. Then it asked for my name, e-mail and verification for which I selected Passport. I entered a made up name, one of my my fake spam addresses and some random numbers for passport. It accepted all of it! No picture of my passport was requested, just a field to type in. It then proceeded to throw up all over itself.
I've seen some sketchy shit in my day and this one stinks to high heaven.
EDIT: Oh. MY. God. It worked on the second try. It says it is sending a verification e-mail. I USED GIBBERISH AS VERIFICATION!! For the love of all that is holy, do not give these people your banking information or any information.
Later versions of ProtonVPN have resolved this issue and an update was rolled out to all users starting about a month ago. It is important to note that an attacker needs to already have access to your computer for this exploit to work, and it only impacts Windows users.
I of course recommend checking out ProtonVPN :)
But more importantly, I recommend understanding what a VPN can or can't defend you against. As with any tool, understanding the threat model is the most important part:
I’ll put in a plug for ProtonVPN and ProtonMail.
If you don’t have a ProtonMail account, get one. Stop allowing your ISP, Yahoo, Google, or Microsoft to read your mail. ProtonMail is based in Switzerland and must follow Swiss privacy laws. Their entry level accounts are free.
Protonmail it's becoming the trendy and secure alternative to Gmail, at the moment they have a super secure e-mail services compatible with PGP and a great VPN service called ProtonVPN, however they are also creating a whole world of services like calendar, agenda, and so on... Soon they will completely replace Google services.
I'm using it and I'm happy with.
Andy, how are you able to operate protonmail within mainland China without blocking from censors? Every single encrypted email service like tutanota is blocked in China but Protonmail works! Even ProtonVPN is blocked, but works like a charm. (Hopefully not a CCP sponsored charm.)
Do you have mainland Chinese servers that handle protonmail email and do you cooperate with Chinese authorities in any way?
I don't believe for one second that any of these apps' no-log policy is true. I read that no VPN with a single lifetime purchase should be trusted, and that makes sense to me (unless it's something like ProtonVPN which has been extensively reviewed, I guess).
The sheer number of affiliated Nord VPN links on each and every VPN review has always made me very cautious about NordVPN. Can't say I'm surprised.
Edit : just noticed ProtonVPN is in the picture too. That was spoken on the hacker news a few weeks ago. I have to say, this one surprised me quite a bit. The one who accused them were competitors (PIA).
EDIT : Protonmail has responded but their response is being downvoted. Which is strange. Here it is in full :
"Hi, ProtonMail team here. We have responded previously to this, it's a smear campaign being run against us by Private Internet Access since ProtonVPN is competing with them.
You can find our response here: "
Mozilla recently announced they're partnering with ProtonVPN
I'm guessing these other VPNs are pushing their services now before ProtonVPN corners the market with a boost from Mozilla.
They are all actually in the country we claim that they are in, and you can actually verify that by checking the ping times and running traceroutes.
For example, our servers in Iceland actually are in Iceland, they are physical servers we own, on a network we control, running our own IP addresses, and our own dedicated connection to the underwater fiber operators.
This is part of the reason why ProtonVPN tends to be more expensive than other VPN services. We have significantly higher fixed costs from the way that we run our infrastructure (in top of the costs of supporting free users).
I use ProtonVPN and I'm pretty satisfied. They do have an app for android but you can also download OpenVPN configs and use them. It's also free if you can't/don't want to pay for their service. Check out /r/ProtonVPN for more information.
So how's this going to compare to ProtonVPN? I've seen people say that Proton is trustworthy despite being free because their free tier is supported by the paid tier and other paid products they have.
Is this similar?
I like how transparent ProtonVPN is. Proton took a step forward and explained the situation, not to mention that they always communicate a lot with their users - they did not ignore the claims, they took them head on. I suggest checking out what Proton themselves have to say about the whole situation before pointing fingers and making more false claims -
^^ This is the best advice ^^. Don't waste the resources you have with unnecessary bloat... unless you want to!
Ok, now disregarding everything I just said, here is my list:
Be Focused Pro (college student)
Fantastical 2 (just release calendars 5 already!)
lighting (for LifX Bulbs)
MS Office (nothing beats it, shit)
Relisten (connects to )
Spark (replaced mail but totally didn't need to)
Tunnelblick (for use with ProtonVPN)
Ulysses (redundant, i know, but i love it!)
Vox (because fuck itunes)
xACT (because .flac files)
Xld (because .flac files)
None are necessary, most are redundant, but all do a better and worse job than the stock apps. Its all about finding whatever works for you.
If you are not careful this can be a double edged sword. VPN providers can see your traffic just as easily as the patrons sitting next to you while using the cafe wireless. You need to trust your VPN provider - do your research before going for something cheap and easy just because it came up first in your search results.
For any who ask, I use ProtonVPN. I've also heard good things about Nord VPN. And there is always Tor for the perpetually paranoid.
why not just use a 3rd party like PIA or ProtonVPN? What reason would it need to be bundled with your browser. Unless you want a free VPN. You dont get a free VPN and privacy, you have to pick one. VPN servers are expensive so you cant expect them to provide it out of the kindness of their own heart. The only way 'free' VPN's make money is by using your data for profit. ProtonVPN has free servers but those dont allow torrents/tor and are essentially a trial, although they dont limit your time.
Hi, I’m someone who is deep in the privacy topic and I can recommend NordVPN or ProtonVPN to you.
You SHOULD NOT use ExpressVPN, because it is based in the 14 Eyes.
The 14 Eyes are a Alliance of Countries that share data and if your VPN Provider is based there, it’s not safe to use and there need to keep logs, protocols, and all the stuff you initially didn’t want someone to have!
So, even if you have to pay for the service, please use one of these two or an Open Source Alternative NOT based in the 14 Eyes.
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in awhile, although there seems to have been an influx of shit posts here recently.
Of course ProtonVPN has a rough idea of how much load their servers are under and no, that has no privacy implications whatsoever.
edit: Looks like OP ninja-edited this post to phrase it more like an honest question instead of a false accusation, however I’m confused by the clickbait FUD title if this was just an honest misunderstanding.
Cloudflare's app does not protect all of your traffic - it only intercepts DNS queries and then sends them (encrypted) to their own DNS servers (i.e.: 184.108.40.206). This would be like comparing apples to oranges. ProtonVPN encrypts all traffic (protecting it from wireless snoopers, ISP, mobile network provider), while Cloudflare only encrypts DNS queries and sends everything else (HTTP, SNI requests, etc.) in the clear.
It seems quite probable that you work for PIA (Private Internet Access) who is responsible for this smear campaign. All your posts are attacking ProtonVPN and only about this issue. These shady business practices really say a lot more about PIA than it does about Proton.
To be absolutely clear, ProtonVPN does not use any servers from Tesonet, and has never used any servers from Tesonet. It may have been previously offered or considered, but it never happened. There is no contradiction in what we have stated.
You can in fact confirm this yourself, as this is publicly verifiable. Just go through the list of ProtonVPN servers and check who the providers are.
We don't view Tesonet as really different from any other vendor such as Radix or LeaseWeb, in the sense that it is not possible to achieve full trust. That's precisely why we have Secure Core VPN:
Hhahahaha nice joke, great root backdoor, great security.
How do we know you or github doesn't change the script that you install as root without even checking a hash of the file?
We do these sales in order to accumulate the resources to build new services. For example, something like ProtonVPN requires a lot of capital investment (e.g. losses) for many months, before we can start to generate revenue from it and fill in the hole it created in our balance sheet.
When more people pre-pay for services (whether it's 2-year plans, or Lifetime plans), this gives us a cash surplus to absorb many bruising months of losses in the runup to a new product launch, in the period before the new product can pay for itself. In this case, we are using the proceeds from this promotion to partially cover the "hole" ProtonDrive will create in our balance sheet.
We believe it's good for the community too. Long time users can benefit from discounts/savings, while simultaneously enabling us to make the product they have invested in better.
No one can tell you that. I recommend researching a few options on
Personally, I use NordVPN, ProtonVPN and a self-hosted one. I've tried a few providers and stuck with that setup.
I think it would be great if someone compiled a list of Free and Paid VPNs for people here. I know of only Nord and ProtonVPN, is it okay to take the free plan or would you guys recommend the paid plan?
NordVPN uses Tesonet for payment services in the US. This all came out over a month ago. Similar claims were made about ProtonVPN. The Proton folks were pretty open in discussing their relationship with Tesonet.
George Duke-Cohan wasn't arrested because he used ProtonVPN. He was arrested because he was a criminal and because he left clues that were easily uncovered by infosec professionals. Even if we had it (we don't), IP data wouldn't have been necessary to find him.
If anything, the fact that he felt comfortable using ProtonVPN while DDoS'ing ProtonMail probably attests to our reputation of always sticking with our principles. We could have logged his IP, but we didn't. If the US decides to indict him, the indictment will contain information about how he was discovered, and it would show conclusively that it wasn't because of ProtonVPN logging his IP. If we did log his IP, it would have taken a day instead of a month to find him.
Just recently was recommended a few VPNs myself and tried ProtonVPN and NordVPN. While both are good, NordVPN works well with Netflix. Just a little trick their customer support taught me - connect to the most recent servers
One dude in a dolphin onesie? Rest assured, there’s a whole team of us. u/atomlib_com
Proton team here. If you saw the other thread, you have probably also seen our previous comments about this topic:
The choice presented to us by TOPG comes down to the following.
It's not a good choice. But given this choice, we prefer to be transparent and honest, so we picked the second option.
My assumption (and this is solely based on my opinion) would be that a couple factors might have been involved:
They at one recent point added several trackers to their website. Once called out about it, they chimed in saying they were just to track the success of a social media promotion of their services. Basically, it was a "sorry we got caught" type situation.
PIA went on a very public smear campaign against ProtonVPN, NordVPN, and possibly others in order to promote themselves.
They're based in the US
Not always the case, if there is upgradable tier, with very limited free service, it can pay of for the cases where users actually upgrade to premium tier. (Like in ProtonVPN case mentioned by someone else)
>It turns out that due to the natural growth of ProtonVPN's userbase, the number of requests from the ProtonVPN authentication servers hitting our core network, has begun to look remarkably similar to a constant DDoS attack.
That's kind of amazing!
> None of the competitors have ever reached out to us to seek an explanation and none have made a single official comment on the way we operate. That is neither activism nor social responsibility – this is the desperation of someone failing to compete with a company that is a relative newcomer to the market.
This is probably due to the fact that they're busy ignoring all these stupid allegations themselves.
According to the insane amount of similar posts on /r/ProtonVPN I can confidently say that these allegations come from PIA. Even their CEO have done posts in the past, which Proton have felt the need to respond to. (Sorry, can't link to any of them as I'm on my cell and it would take too long)
Direct link to blogpost
> At ProtonVPN we’re big fans of Linux operating system, and most of our team uses Linux- or Unix-based systems on a daily basis.
> Because we are strong supporters of open source software (and we intend to eventually open source all ProtonVPN clients), our Linux VPN command-line tool is open source and can be found at the following Github repository:
Avoid free VPNs, they are usually very limited in server numbers or data. I have tried a few, did not like it, also, the logging policies are very shady as well :/
Get a VPN that is no logs, for example, FSecure, NordVPN or ProtonVPN, these are unlimited if I remember correctly. Better get a paid VPN because having a free is like not having one at all
It's probably using some scripting which the Tor browser blocks. have you considered a VPN? You could try ProtonVPN. It has some limits for free accounts but that's mostly for P2P traffic and a lot less endpoints to choose from.
You could also setup Tor as a proxy I think but that may be making things needlessly difficult.
Anyway, good luck with what you're going through and don't do anything stupid. And there are also some subreddits you could go to to get something off your chest. Reddit works fine with the Tor browser. You probably won't find psychologists in training there but a kind word and someone that listens (well, reads) may help..
Using a throwaway account and the Tor browser will ensure your privacy there.
PIA is based in the U.S.
It doesn't matter if it is proven in the court. NSA or other government agency could go right now to PIA and force them to start logging without customers knowing about it!
Also PIA used fake Twitter accounts and other social media accounts to spread claims about ProtonVPN and NordVPN. That wasn't great move.
Also PIA has some very odd ideas of what security means. PIA finds itself incapable of writing an app that comports with best practices.
You don't understand what happened here. It's not like the developer used tesonet's certificate, he generated a new cert and simply put tesonet as company name and not ProtonVPN, because that's the company he legally worked for. Sure, that's a mistake, but it's not like Tesonet even has access to that cert.
I’m curious to hear from a ProtonVPN employee, but here’s my guess...
Pretty good chance the Australian servers will go bye bye.
The app may get region blocked in the app stores.
I doubt there will be much they can do about either of those things. Maybe increase servers near Australia. People in Australia could still connect via OpenVPN using open source clients.
Wouldn't that have just created yet another option in the VPN market, something like MozillaVPN? It's probably better that they throw their support behind an established provider to increase ProtonVPN's credibility without adding yet another choice to an already saturated market.
It's best if you go through their website really quickly:
Basically, an encrypted Email provider that seemlessly incorporates the encryption using PGP. Mails within the Proton Network are always end-to-end encrypted and mails from/to outside are stored with zero-access encryption.
ProtonVPN is their VPN Service.
I’m a big ProtonMail and ProtonVPN fan but all the variations in pricing are a bit much guys.
Instead of -33%, -45%, -50% and -60% off deals that apply to this plan but not that plan, let’s just have the lowest available price of $6 per month (converted for whatever currency) for ProtonMail Plus and ProtonVPN Plus when you pay for 2 years up front. The entire feel of ProtonMail and ProtonVPN is that of an aesthetically pleasing, clean, uncluttered, simple, functional and beautiful design. The Black Friday promotion should follow this design doctrine.
The marketing genius on this one needs to be reined in or switched to decaf.��
They log your data. While you can be embarrassed by your browsing activity, we have seen the first bank account closed due to political agenda. They figured their political leaning via data collection. Don't just hide it from your room-mate, stay safe in general.
If you're going with a free vpn don't get anyrhing other then either ProtonVPN or Tunnelbear.
Also, browse using Tor. They scramble and quickly change your IP address, your room mate will know your using Tor but won't know what you're doing. (Heads up, Tor is incredibly slow due to the changing of IP addresses, it'll take roughly 20 seconds normally to load a website.)
Also, human right 13: The right to privacy
Assuming your in any of the countries that have to obey human rights, this is illegal.
The free VPN is definitely the best out there.
However, in my opinion, the subscription tiers don't provide any value compared to other subscription VPNs from a features standpoint. The price needs to be lowered or advanced features like port forwarding need to be implemented.
The reason I keep my subscription to ProtonVPN is because I want to do my part to subsidize the free VPN and I trust Proton more than say, PIA or Nord. That has a monetary value to me, but it's still a tough pill to swallow when I know other VPNs cost 3x-4x less and offer more features.
It's interesting to point out that OP is a newly made account who seems to specifically post only against ProtonVPN.
After reading the original thread, I heavily suspect that OP is rasengan (PIA's co-founder) from here:
Currently, we are working on PGP integration, Linux bridge, import/export tool, an auditable append-only public key log, (almost done, but needs support on all clients before we can release it), MacOS and iOS for ProtonVPN, and a still secret hardware project. We are also doing some things with blockchain/cryptocurrencies, better anti-abuse/anti-spam, and search. At least two other projects are also moving in parallel, but we will say more about them later when they get a bit more mature.
Dear diary, today OP delivered.
Not in this case.
> We believe privacy and security are fundamental human rights, so we also provide a free version of ProtonVPN to the public. Unlike other free VPNs, there are no catches. We don’t serve ads or secretly sell your browsing history. ProtonVPN Free is subsidized by ProtonVPN paid users. If you would like to support online privacy, please consider upgrading to a paid plan for faster speeds and more features.
They're a great company. I pay for their email services. There's absolutely no chance they'd sell any data because it would destroy their security-based business.
>Why do they require you to make an account with them?
Manage your orders easier etc
>Is there any way to delete this account after the order goes through?
Calm down lmao
>It makes me a little nervous having that up there, despite the fact that I'm using the paid ProtonVPN on public wifi.
Calm down dude the cops aren't already on their way
Here's another review from a well-known VPN reviewer.
> Final thoughts: ProtonVPN got a lukewarm reaction from me. Certain aspects of their website felt incomplete or ill-thought out (the sign up process). Some others felt more thorough (the user dashboard and download portal). While the process to sign up for service was a bit rocky, things smoothed out a bit once this step was completed. The service and configs were easy to set up and connect with quickly, but the speeds I experienced were not great. Support was one of the better aspects of the service, as they were quick and helpful. ProtonVPN’s Terms of Service were also down the middle: some eyebrow-raisers, but no deal-breakers. In the end, (especially given its high asking price), I believe there are better services available on the market.
> $10/mth, are you kidding? That's more than you'd pay if you bought the VPN through ProtonVPN directly!
No. Toggle that Monthly-Annually button
Download all attachments as a .zip file
Plain Text composing and sending
Show auto-save time/notification
New translations (added support for Portuguese)
Trim input value for email autocomplete
Better support for UK zip codes
Add delete action in Spam folder
Load embedded inside a draft if user has already loaded them
Fix translations on the dashboard
Fix several French translations
Fix how missing embedded images are displayed in the composer
The "facts" are not undeniable, they have explanations. Those given by ProtonVPN are believable.
I have no idea where you saw ProtonVPN contradict itself. Can you please provide some examples ?
Edit: Also, saying that VPNs is a shady business is not an ad hominem attack. You simply have to learn a bit about that industry to know that 99% of it is a pile of filth.
Edit 2: Also, nice new account specifically made to attack ProtonVPN you've got there, /u/common_sense7.
To be fair, they are not trying to give to you a free VPN and nothing more, they are interested in convert free users into paid customers.
We believe privacy and security are fundamental human rights, so we also provide a free version of ProtonVPN to the public. Unlike other free VPNs, there are no catches. We don't serve ads or secretly sell your browsing history. ProtonVPN Free is subsidized by ProtonVPN paid users. If you would like to support online privacy, please consider upgrading to a paid plan for faster speeds and more features.
I'm not sure how Tor would be affected but I'd say get it and run a bridge relay so it would be harder for ISP's to see you are connected to Tor.
Also get a VPN that is based out of the United States, in a country that still has Net Neutrality. You can go to for a great selection of VPN's (I personally use the free version of ProtonVPN as I am still a Teen. It's the best I can do)
as well as a lot of privacy-friendly alternatives to a lot of things.
But my best bet would get Tor and run a bridge or a good VPN.
Per the CEO:
> just released the [ProtonVPN] iOS app, and we're working on preparing to make all the apps open source (as that's one of our firm goals we have outlined for 2019...)
MulVad or ProtonVPN
I personally wouldn't trust NordVPN as they collect connection and traffic data. Yes you are "invisible" to your isp, but not to Nord, they can see your traffic, as a bonus all VPNs have your real IP address.
Edit: I forgot to mention Mulvad does not track your information, proton says they don't but when you read the terms and conditions it says they do. The reason I recommend proton VPN is that you have a end to end encryption email with your own SMTP server if you wish to go that route with emails. As an added bonus with ProtonVPN if you and you have a mobile app.
ProtonVPN, à fond dans la sécu et la confidentialité, fonctionne avec Netflix US, et est très rapide !
I’ve begun testing the app and it seems pretty solid so far. Decent connection and doesn’t disconnect often.
Having said that, ProtonVPN developers are very reliable. The general consensus in r/privacy on Cloudflare is to avoid their services whenever possible. There’s multiple posts about it.
Another ProtonMail user here. I've found it after doing lots of research. The developers are scientists working on the LHC, and their servers are in Switzerland, which means they are safe from evil government laws that would otherwise require them to give your data to them. Check out their blog.
Also, they'll release ProtonVPN in 10 days.
For the time being I can recommend Qomui as a good OpenVPN manager that has automatic server list updating for ProtonVPN and a few others, and manual for all the rest.
It also offers some features the ProtonVPN apps does not, like bypass/split tunneling and multi-hop connections through whatever servers you want, including servers from different providers.
Even if an official ProtonVPN app comes to Linux I'm not sure I'd use it.
ProtonVPN is safe. The allegations against them were simply a smear campaign by PIA. Read more abou it here.
Also, I think ProtonMail is safe to use as well.
Uh... Yeah? There are plenty of tutorials right here on this subreddit.
Simply put - make the phone think it's in the US for the installation of Good lock. That means:
1) remove the SIM card/s
2) get a vpn (I use ProtonVPN, it has free servers in the USA)
3) delete all cache and data from the Galaxy Store
4) reboot phone
5) tunnel into USA using vpn of your choice
6) start Galaxy store
7) Download good lock and all of the modules you want
8) reinsert SIM, get rid of vpn if you want to
That's how I did it, I'm in Europe, Good lock works fine, Google works fine, everything is fine.
Only because the GDPR forced their hand. And even then, they did less than what the law requires them to do to be compliant. And they only targetted it to EU users where it's forced on them, other users still get mined for every bit of data they can sell. Many other companies extend the GDPR changes to everyone, but not Tumblr.
If you're a non-EU user, you can get yourself in the same boat by using a VPN with an exit point somewhere in Europe. If you got no money, ProtonVPN is probably the only free VPN I'd even glance at, and even then only because it's run by a company that's already got a good rep for privacy. Almost all other free VPNs will mine you much worse than any website.
Everything about ProtonMail is perfect for me. I also love typing instead of or ProtonMail also has a great vpn service called ProtonVPN that I use. I also got the Humble Bundle last month for the 25$ Credits on ProtonMail.
>I'll probably set-up ProtonVPN on my router and run PIA through it from my computer client (if that's possible - if not then switch it around, PVPN through PIA, since I know PIA works on routers). Double layer and three server hops, before connecting to Tor.
Unless you're dabbling in some highly illegal shit, that is overkill to the point of ridiculous.
Whats funny is that this information was put out by PIA. Perhaps ProtonVPN has been hurting their paychecks. I imagine this hiring didnt help either.
This is getting ridiculous. I cannot do any work right now – with 2auth codes being sent to my email. My home's internet is also down because my router routes through ProtonVPN.
Paying over $120 USD for such unreliable service is disappointing.
ProtonVPN is run by a small group of privacy living engineers. Pay for the premium service and you will get access to hundreds more servers and ensure the company lives for a long time.
I am not affiliated with them but pay for ProtonVPN and Protonmail
We have pretty mixed feelings about this.
One on hand, it validates the fact that ProtonVPN is one of the most private and trusted VPNs out there. So trusted in fact that criminals even use it when attacking Proton because they know we won't breach our own policies.
On the other hand, because we ARE a no logs VPN, we also can't catch them this way and need to do a lot more work to find them.
We have edited to include ProtonVPN now, although technically, ProtonVPN is authenticated differently as we use separate OpenVPN credentials when communicating to VPN servers, for security reasons. If we go into more native clients use ProtonMail credentials to retrieve the OpenVPN credentials which are then used for communications with the VPN servers themselves.
For ProtonDrive, we haven't made a final decision on how we will do authentication there, so we can't say for sure yet.
Right now, all data is in Switzerland, but we are always exploring all possibilities, and Iceland is also looking like a really good option, so we are keeping that possibility open. We already have servers and network there so it would be easy to extend to Iceland.
This is actually not true, as we have detailed here: _and_tesonet/
That being said, there is of course limited scalability for me as a single person, and one of our priorities is expanding our management team so we can more effectively operate all projects.
As it stands currently, Apple is the single best manufacturer for out of the box privacy. You have to remember that they are a hardware company that makes the vast majority of their profits on hardware alone. They are not in the business of selling data. With that in mind, yes, a VPN is an absolute must. When you aren't using a VPN, your carrier and/or your ISP (whatever internet your connected to) can and will read/record your browsing. I highly recommend ProtonVPN personally for this.
"To power your phone" is just a figure of speech. They mean to use applications that have te source code readily available for anyone to review on GitHub.
The best things to do with your iPhone would be to disable analytics everywhere, use a VPN, install a blacklist/adblocker such as AdGuard or Purify, and don't use Google apps/services. This will be a good start. Let me know if I can be of any more help. :)
Except they're not--they're just leveraging Firefox to sell you on ProtonVPN. Sounds like umpteen bittorrent sites that are advertising VPN banners on their sites, but it's a big ad pushed by your browser!
They aren't comparable. Nord is run by sketchy people with sketchy origins who use sketchy marketing and sketchy wording on their site to give people a false sense of security and sign up. There are also signs that they may be a honey pot operation. ProtonVPN is run by accountable and transparent people. The speeds are excellent and the privacy is better than others for the same reasons I listed above. Security is excellent, especially with Secure Core and onion servers but I'd like to see Wireguard servers and alternatives to IKEv2 on mobile. That's not a slight against Proton for other VPN companies though that's standard in the industry not to provide wireguard.
Personally I trust Proton more than others by a long long shot. I also use them for mail.
Proton Technologies AG is ProtonMail. It's just the parent company for legal reasons, no unknown people behind that.
It's also the parent company of ProtonVPN. And will likely be the parent company of ProtonDrive once that's out as well.
_and_tesonet/e21tfqw TL;DR: False claims by a competitor.
> This is a smear campaign being run by Private Internet Access, a competing US-based VPN provider that has been under pressure recently from ProtonVPN.
If you lookup all the info listed in that PDF, you will see nothing is made up. Your group made too many mistakes.
There was actually a very interesting discussion about this earlier, and you can get more insight here:
The short answer is, a lot of the criteria used by that site doesn't really make sense, and we are not willing to modify the more sensible and correct wording on our website for the sake of a better review.
Just don't. Only free VPN I could trust a little bit is ProtonVPN and that is simply because their whole business model (including of ProtonMail) is centered around "trust" and this would be destroyed if they get caught doing something suspicious even on the "free" tier.
...outside the US?
ProtonVPN and Mullvad operate in Switzerland and Sweden respectively.
It's in the EU yes, but the EU Article 13 says nothing regarding VPNs so EU based VPN providers are still fine.
I use NordVPN, it has many servers in Canada which you will need in such case. You can also look into ProtonVPN or ExpressVPN they are also good. Pick the one who has many servers and keeps no logs. I think these are the most important factors. Talking about the price many of them cost similar, Express is one of the expensive ones, Nord has pretty nice yearly plans.
> Now they are in complete control
> the current CEO of Tesonet and head of company of ProtonVPN are both Darius Bereika.
In order for Proton to apologize for past indiscretions, they need to be in the past.
Honestly, court may have proven PIA's lack of logs, but these libelous claims and generally shady tactics remove all the trust I had in them.
Between PIA and ProtonVPN, I'd definitely go with Proton.
I would say no, it is not ProtonVPN's job to save a life. Your product's concern is user privacy and should focus solely on that. If you make something like this possible it increases the risk of abuse.
Right now, I believe ProtonVPN only supports OpenVPN. Wireguard is relatively new, so I hope they're working on it.
EDIT, see: _protonvpn_be_offering_wireguard_soon/dvxizfn
ProtonVPN is peer-reviewed, along with their ProtonMail.
I honestly don't want to explain into details, as it might seem I'm actively promoting it. Yes I do promote it, but I don't gain any monetary incentive -- I just want to help good products' exposure.
It's free anyway.
Wow, this is mind-numbingly stupid. It's inexcusable that ProtonMail would set up their billing system like this.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to never buy ProtonVPN as I can't risk something like this happening.
ProtonMail has made so many empty promises over the years, and I'm really getting tired of it. I'm strongly considering dropping the service entirely. Seeing how their horrendous mismanagement extends from their service development to their billing system is just another reason to leave.
ProtonMail, please get your shit together.
> We believe privacy and security are fundamental human rights, so we also provide a free version of ProtonVPN to the public. Unlike other free VPNs, there are no catches. We don't serve ads or secretly sell your browsing history. ProtonVPN Free is subsidized by ProtonVPN paid users. If you would like to support online privacy, please consider upgrading to a paid plan for faster speeds and more features.
The purpose of using a VPN doesn't just stop at keeping your ISP from monitoring your torrenting activity, it also protects your actual IP address from leaking to other peers in the swarm. You wouldn't want your IP visible to anyone who's torrenting the same thing as you, would you? If your interested in getting a VPN, I'd suggest either ProtonVPN or NordVPN. Both services are based out of the "5/9/14 eyes" so in an extreme circumstance, not even the US government would be able to seize their databases and view your activity. Not that there'd be anything to see anyway since both Nord and Proton don't log any identifying user data.
I right now use no Google , Microsoft, Face book products
Only one US service that's PIA VPN which follows strict no log policy and cheap (if you have money , use ProtonVPN,NordVPN)
Yeah, it'll do. Honestly the only real problems with ProtonVPN are in the clients they release: The Windows one is kinda crap for maintaining a 24/7 connection, and if you use Linux you really may as well treat it like any OpenVPN tunnel configuration and will need to set up firewall rules, write some scripts, etc.
Regardless, here are a few things you'll want to do in pretty much every case:
1) Disable IPv6 if you aren't using it, and you almost certainly aren't.
2) Go to to run a test, then disable anything that shows as active.
3) Once you're connected to a VPN, go to and check to make sure you don't have a DNS leak.