I recently got a dual-band 987/1090 filter that I added to my PiAware tracking setup. Looking at the data above, I'll bet you can guess when that happens. Do I need to also add an LNA between the filter & my Pro Stick Plus? Or is the filter just overkill since the Pro Stick Plus has a filter built in?
I feel like I am missing something and would appreciate any tips to improve my setup.
Thanks for your input
>FA filter should work fine
Are you talking about this?
https://www.amazon.com/ADS-B-Dual-1090-Band-Pass-Filter/dp/B010GBQXK8/
If so would you put the filter on the antenna end or closer to the dongle?
I have the green Radarbox one on a Pi 4b running PiAware with the $10 1090mhz antenna from Amazon. Works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K47P7XD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_p-n9Eb4BCNE8K
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQJKMBD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Z-n9Eb1076H50
Yes I am using a similar adapter to this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CV93V9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_VRNGCb0DXMT2G and a coax cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757Y5YWL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_lTNGCbNW6TH51
I use a 4gb raspberry pi 4, previously used a 8gb 8th gen i5 laptop, that was overkill, and one of these, I don't have access to a roof or balcony, so just use a small aeriel on an indoor windowsill, but still get about a 50mile radius reception
Getting above obstructions is everything. If there are trees, houses, buildings, mountains, or anything else in the "path" to the sky, then you will be restricted. If possible, get above everything.
The tool @ima_twee mentioned is fantastic for giving you an idea of what is possible.
You may already know this, but just in case. Coax cable is critical. The shorter the run the better. Using quality cable is a requirement. You can toy around with the calculator here. ADSB is 1090 Mhz. A 3dB loss is 50% of the signal! https://kv5r.com/ham-radio/coax-loss-calculator/ And not too many, zero if possible, adapters because they lose signal too. LMR-400 cable is great, but expensive and a bit unwieldy. Get coax from a known-good source like Times Microwave.
An amplifier like this helps big time! https://www.amazon.com/RTL-SDR-Blog-Wideband-Amplifier-Powered/dp/B07G14Q6XX/ A high-quality antenna helps as well. If you are near radio/TV antennas a band pass filter could be useful as well.
Haha, any sort of silicone or non-conducting moisture protective coating will work. Not sure the regular WD40 will do the job. :D
Buddy of mine that deployed RF stuff near the ocean used to dip the circuit boats in urethane deck varnish. If they didn't the traces on the boards would corroded in a month or two from the ambient salt spray. Computer stuff was in outdoor enclosures but the breather was just enough to let microscopic salt particles in as the pressure changed.
https://www.amazon.com/Fluid-Film-AS-11-Accessories/dp/B01FSYYB8O/
Any unfitlered SDR should work with a MHz band antenna.
https://store.adsbexchange.com/collections/frontpage/products/adsbexchange-com-orange-r860-rtl2832u-0-5-ppm-tcxo-sdr-w-amp
https://www.amazon.com/ADSBexchange-com-Orange-R860-RTL2832U-TCXO/dp/B09NJWMY56/
I used a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and this kit from ADS-B Exchange, which I bought on Amazon (US) for $40. Total cost was under $100, even with egregious Pi prices. I don't know how much more expensive things would be on your side of the Atlantic, but I'm guessing it's definitely doable for less than 350€ even if you don't want to build anything yourself.
Proxicast 36 ft SMA Male to N Male Premium 400 Series Low-Loss Coax Cable (50 Ohm) for 4G LTE, 5G Modems/Routers, Ham, ADS-B, GPS, RF Radio to Antenna or Surge Arrester Use (Not for TV or WiFi) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07RLJ25GW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MT55KRBF13147TCV83YH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The Pi Zero 2 W uses the same BCM2710A1 SoC which is used in the Raspberry Pi 3. This gives it about five times higher performance vs PI Zero / Pi 1 – using all four cores.
Just stop dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Lower clock speed means less heat and reduced power consumption. 512MB vs 1GB vs 256MB ... it matters not.... ADS-B uses minimal ram even with a ram filesystem to reduce writes.
Spewing bogus statements without actual factual basis is what you do. I get it. Educate yourself.
https://picockpit.com/raspberry-pi/everything-about-raspberry-pi-zero-2-w/
Will this setup be good with my Pi4?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747PX3NZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It will work, but it is more than you need for ADSB tracking. The Big box is an upconverter so you can listen to lower frequencies than the dongle can supports natively (I think 25Mhz and below with the depending on the dongle), which is great for HF listening if you want to do more with your SDR than track planes, but not neccesary at all if you only want to track planes. Im not familiar with HF, but there is a lot of ham stuff in that space as well as ACARS. Keep in mind you can not do both at the same time with a single dongle.
Oh please. Zero-Tier is a mesh network for sure. It announces itself to global network controllers using UDP. ( https://www.zerotier.com/ )
I can be disabled or removed. If you don't want it, then remove it.
It can't be used unless it's authorized.
FlightAware and FR24 both have bock doors into your Pi feeder as soon as you install their clients. FA does it over a TCK/TCL tunnel.
I understand you are going to talk shit and act like a jackass because you got booted from ADSBx for acting like a jackass. Kicking you out of the ADSBx is proving to be the best thing I've ever done and your shit talking confirms this even more.
But at least know what you are talking about if you are going to talk shit.
Just an antenna tuned for more then 1 frequency, I use the ADSB Exchange one. https://www.amazon.com/ADSBexchange-5-5dBi-N-Type-Female-Antenna/dp/B089Q4BVCB/
Next you just need a splitter right before the 2 SDR, I’ve had good success with this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Hyuduo-Splitter-100-2700M-Frequency-Combiner/dp/B07QPZSSGF/
Few small jumper cables, and you can put the filter on the combined cable, it passes 978, or you can use it after the splitter to do only 1090 side.
Acxico 1Pcs ADS-B 1090MHZ PCB Antenna ANT https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083XQY2ZP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y5H37E73VN74093WX4AN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Been working great for me. Very inexpensive.
For feeding you may want to have a stationary setup, e.g. Stratux, or just a Pi with dump1090.
For traveling you may want to consider something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bs.Avare.ADSB
978 is hard to receive on the ground, unless you are very close to a ground station.
Also check out the LiveATC app for radio monitoring.
I appreciate the list. As more money becomes available, I'm going to look at upgrading the antenna. I do like this on no your list:
https://www.amazon.com/ADSBexchange-5-5dBi-N-Type-Female-Antenna/dp/B089Q4BVCB
I'll just need to convert from an N connector to the SMA on the receiver.
There are about three of them, I tested all three, they are all much of a muchness with only ad's popping up being the difference.
Here is one you can see what I mean https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tda.satpointer&hl=en_US
Im using this right now : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FVWCKKE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Seems pretty good, but its really cheap. wondering if there is a better option
I have an 3 db antenna in my highrise, I tape the tip to the window to get it as close to the glass as possible and it makes a big difference. The glass of my building blocks a lot of signal.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MV30HXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The brackets are for a mast mount. Same as ADSBx antenna.
https://www.amazon.com/ADSBexchange-5-5dBi-N-Type-Female-Antenna/dp/B089Q4BVCB/
If you did attach to an exterior wall you could use your own screws. A lot of people attic mount them with as few zip ties.
1090Mhz ADS-B is vertically polarized, make sure antenna is vertical.
I would go with your 3rd choice.
https://www.amazon.com/ADSBexchange-5-5dBi-N-Type-Female-Antenna/dp/B089Q4BVCB/
It’s in the same price rage. It supports both 1090 and 978 MHz frequencies. (you need a simple y-cable and two dongles)
The folks at adsb exchange make these and they’re super well built, and they are sold at cost because they are just out to help people improve coverage and pick to the traffic.
I know the other response downplayed the two-radio configuration, but I’m doing it, and I’ve done it with and without the second dongle in play. The range is similar. What really kills my range is running the kit near to my MacBook with a USB-C HDMI connector. The interference that leaks out crushes my range.
Nice! Love that tar1090!
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One suggestion, remove the plastic from the SDR. It's going to cook it long term.
You'll need to pull some air in from somewhere, not sure if I missed you were adding a vent on it.
I like to use corrosion inhibitor on the outdoor installs. Waxy, non-conductive, works well where sea spray is an issue eating the PCB metal. A light coat on everything, tape of the heat sinks.
https://www.amazon.com/CRC-SP-400-Corrosion-Inhibitor-Aerosol/dp/B000P1HKKM/
The antenna is one like this and we are on the only hill in the area. When looking at ads exchange with the smaller antenna that came with the dongle, I can get some that are not on the global map whereas with the adapter and bigger antenna, it doesn’t pick up anything.
I prefer getting coax cable that has N-type connectors on both ends so it’s always universally compatible with whatever project you’re doing and you don’t have to have anything specialized. Then you have pigtails that are specialized to whatever you’re trying to hook up. I highly recommend this Wilson electronics LMR-400 cable from Amazon. They can have it in various lengths and it arrives easily and is really high-quality. I have a 75 foot run of this up to my chimney mount and have had superior performance with it.
WILSON ELECTRONICS WSN952330 30 Feet Ultra Low Loss Coaxial Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018PVVBI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HLCtEbB8RKM19
Pigtail: DHT Electronics RF coaxial coax cable assembly SMA male right angle to N female bulkhead 12'' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00COXZ2RM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HMCtEbQY5ZT5Y
I have the 3m version of this cable, although a 1m would also fit if it would help.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JP8ZPCX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have a hill across the street that is just higher than my house which blocks a near line of sight to GRR
SE and SW of my house there really isn’t anything, it’s suburbs so no large buildings, no towers
I would love to pick up Ohare traffic if I can!
The stock one.
Mini USB2.0 Digital DVB-T USB 2.0 Digital Video Broadcasting SDR+DAB+FM HDTV Tuner Receiver Stick FC0012, Windows XP/2000/vista/Win7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DGTWC3R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_jU7fDbHCV7N23 how about that? I want to buy from amazon cuz it pays my custom tax for me (after i paid them obv)
In CO and mounting outdoor with a strong storm season. Bought this.
Code in county to have outdoor lightning protection tied to an outdoor ground. The equipment will still fry, but will reduce the risk of a fire.
Yep. Well, in any case, whatever it is, that connector is not going to be happy if you remove/replace antennas on it. Best to get a new one with SMA like the actual thing.
OpenADSB is iOS only. If I get more bandwidth I may someday take on an Android version. I do see this in the Google Play store which looks like an Android VRS viewer.
This is out of the box. You'll pay a premium for it, but it should work
A good quality one. The USB cables I had hanging around added a lot of noise - more noise == fewer reports & planes. I purchased this USB3 one, which has almost zero noise
You still should ground the antenna. Moisture in the air blowing across the antenna surface will generate a static charge, weakening the signal. A lightning arrestor should help to accomplish this.
You do need the filter if you use the Pro Stick with the built in amplifier, at least according to Flight Aware. If the filter isn't wanted, the NooElec-NESDR-Mini 2 does a great job (I've used both).
> Yea, nothing seems overpriced, but it looks like if I add each individual item to the cart it comes out to less than buying them as a package.
One reason to buy separately is that you may not need all the components (e.g. filter and 25 ft cable). You can get started with just a Pi setup ($50) + dongle ($17) + antenna (or make your own) and then expand as necessary.