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I would look at this book by Roberta Grimes. This book is the afterlife story of a 20-year-old who through his mom channeling him describes what it’s like to be on the other side. Long story short, every book that I’ve read about the other side says that you are still you. You just have a greater awareness. Not sure if we’re allowed to post links here, but here’s the link to the book.
Flying High in Spirit: A Young Snowboarder's Account of His Ride Through Heaven
There's an actual book written for exactly these experiences.
I haven't read it but I remembered seeing it somewhere, here you go:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crossing-Over-Coming-Home-Dale-ebook/dp/B078QJGHSH
There’s a series of books by Michael Newton, where the author purportedly regresses subjects through hypnotherapy back to previous lives, and in the process is able to have the subject recall memories between lives. Some of the stories recall being in soul groups, with souls represented as orbs of light of different colors.
The debate on the reliability of this kind of hypnotherapy is justifiably lively—are the memories implanted by the therapist? But, it’s interesting material nonetheless.
If you can get your mitts on a copy of Michael Sabom's Recollections of Death, that'd be fantastic too; it's out of print but was one of the first serious investigations of NDE veridicality.
But they also pop up in unexpected places; like, I read about this one in Jung's Synchronicity.
Ever hear the short version of the serenity prayer?
>!"Fuck it"!<
Lol but in all seriousness, one of my big struggles has been acceptance. Accepting things as they are. Accepting the inevitable. Accepting I cannot fix certain things (like my bulemic, sociopath, opiod-addicted sister, etc.).
Dan Millman has a great book on numerology. Horoscope-like thrill aside, there are chapters on the various major elements of our life path -- things like acceptance, power, etc. It's called The Life You Were Born to Live and I highly recommend it
Great information. Also Black Elk's descendant, the late Wallace Black Elk, was also an accomplished shaman and reported similar experiences with both OOBEs and NDEs.
I would also like to recommend life in the spirit world, what near death experiences teach about life on the other side. https://www.amazon.com/Life-Spirit-World-Near-Death-Experiences-ebook/dp/B07L9SB7L4 He has a podcast as well
but I'd take it with a grain of salt, google him he also has a video of himself describing the experience online.
I would strongly recommend that you read the book Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists by Jens Amberts. It might well convince you that there is an afterlife, and a pretty good one at that.
It's okay for me, having had an NDE myself, I know 100% there is an afterlife. You'll like it when you get there — you'll like it a lot!
On the question of credibility of NDEs I would recommend the book by Jens Amberts Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists
The book would also give you great insight into what having an NDE is actually like. Strongly recommend.
In Consciousness Beyond Life, the internationally renowned cardiologist Dr. Pim van Lommel offers ground-breaking research into whether or not our consciousness survives the death of our body. If you enjoy books about near-death experiences, such as those by Raymond Moody.
https://www.amazon.nl/Consciousness-Beyond-Life-Near-Death-Experience/dp/0061777269
Forget about fortune-telling. It's an ill road to go down and a distraction from doing real spiritual work.
If you want a spiritual practice that can actually advance your spiritual growth then get a daily meditation practice and go with Eckhart Tolle or Alain Forget — whichever suits your current state of development and understanding best.
>What would happen to a baby which consciousness hasnt developed?
You're confusing consciousness with having an ego. Neonates fully have consciousness; just as everyone else does. Pure consciousness does not develop, it just is as it is and is quite immutable. What neonates don't have is a fully developed ego, though, from the experience of just being birthed, they do have the beginnings of one and that will be built on and consolidated as they age.
That said, in mystical writings from all major religions the ego is regarded as (ultimately) a mirage. During its development this mirage masks our perception of what we think is consciousness — we misidentify and think our consciousness is our ego — and that causes a situation in which it is impossible for the 'owner' of the mirage to see the world as it really is, and that causes untold problems, misunderstandings, and suffering (including for me!). It is to this mirage (ego) that you seem to attach your understanding of what consciousness is. The two are not the same thing.
For a spiritual/mystic understanding of this point of view I would recommend Alain Forget's book How to Get Out of this World Alive It's a good read and full of practical advice on how to try and work your way out of the mirage by dismantling your ego. It also has good information on what consciousness is really like.
>But what holds us under water and how did that come about?
The development of our ego as we progress through childhood and into adulthood.
Assuming you genuinely do want to deal with the problem at its source and are prepared to do the suggested work: Alain Forget — How to Get out of This World Alive
There is a newly published book by Jens Amberts that deals with this specific subject in some detail. I would strong recommend getting a hold of it. Conceptually it will give great insight into what having an NDE is like and what in a phenomenological sense is meant by realer than real.
Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists: A Thought Experiment and Realer Than Real Near-Death Experiences
Another good one to follow-up on would be Helen Greaves' (the writer) Testimony of Light (1969). The spirit messages are purported to be from Francis Banks. It has a slight Christian flavour to it but it never descends into any kind of fundamentalism, and Banks does go into problems with some Christian teachings about the afterlife in light of what she is actually experiencing in the afterlife. I have a strong bias against Christian fundamentalism and wouldn't recommend the book if it was marred in this way, it isn't, it's a good read for spiritualist literature.
I have over the years read a fair number of spiritualist literature most of which I found a bit 'if-y' but these three are the ones that stood out for me and of which I actually kept the books.
Most NDE and NDErs can't really say what life is like in the afterlife long-term. Though most NDErs, myself included, would say that they are sure that the overarching 'theme' in the afterlife is and will be love — that's a pretty good and reassuring place to start from I think.
For considerations of life in the afterlife long-term the only real avenue of approach to that is to read Spiritualist literature as given to us by mediums and channellers. Whether they are right or not is really a matter for your own judgment. Two spiritualist accounts that I have read that I enjoyed very much were The Road to Immortality (1932) and Beyond Human Personality (1935). Even if you don't agree with their content (and how do you make that judgment) you get a pretty good idea from them as to what was popular spiritualist belief at around the early 20th century.
For a non-NDEr to get a good conceptual grasp of what having an NDE is really like I would strongly recommend the recently published book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists
Definitely do not miss it, an excellent argument and a really good read.
ThaliaDarling, by my reading of your comments you're juggling two things at the same time and getting slightly crossed-wires because of doing so.
First there is the 'verifying' issue. As most NDEs aren't verifiable anyway there is nothing that can be done about that (for most NDEs) — though verified accounts do exist, as pointed to above.
The other thing you are juggling is 'veracity' — can I take NDE accounts as being a truthful report that would allow me in an overall way to accept that most NDE accounts are truthful and point to the real existence of a real afterlife? (That's a kind of different question from the 'verifiable' question.)
To deal with that question, and I would think gain some 'hope', I would strongly recommend a newly published book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. I think if you read that then you will be able to judge for yourself the veracity or otherwise of many NDE accounts. Personally I consider the book something of a milestone in NDE literature — I haven't read anything quite like it anywhere else. It is very well argued and written and an easy read. I don't want to say any more as doing so might spoil what is an otherwise excellent read. Beg, steal or borrow a copy, I doubt you would be disappointed in the read.
You can see a review of the book here: Does an Afterlife Obviously Exist?
Then look at the literature…. The research papers, all the evidence providing verified NDEs. Look at The Self Does Not Die (here is the book ) where they have been verified by the medical professionals that were helping the patient, the people that the experiencer observed, and even the medical records on the operations that aligned with their experience and what they saw.
Don’t just look at YouTube videos, it’s gonna be limited. Actually look at the research
No, science can't really explain love as we experience it here on Earth.
As they can't do that for being here there is no way that they can explain love in NDE environments. Love there is so far, far, far, far, far (keep adding 'fars') beyond anything that we can experience in physical existence — it is quite literally a 'power' in its own right in the afterlife. When I say 'power' please do not think in terms of it being a 'force', there is nothing forceful about love in the afterlife, it does not coerce in any way whatsoever but it is that which is of most value in the afterlife. It is there for each and every one of us, and you will be in utter awe and joy of it when you meet it.
My own NDE attempts, as best as I am able, a description of what being in that love is like. Other NDErs try the same too, but I know in my heart of hearts that very few people indeed will really understand the sheer astonishing way off-the-scale beauty of that love; it is utterly awesome and far beyond anything we can feel in physical existence.
For non-NDErs to try and get a conceptual handle of the phenomenology of that love and of feelings/emotions in the NDE environment I would strongly recommend getting a copy of a newly released book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. Non-NDErs would gain a great deal from reading that book, and NDErs probably would too.
For anyone that isn't sure about the authenticity of NDEs then I would very strongly recommend the book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. Amberts gives a very convincing and brilliant argument as to why NDEs should be considered as real events. I would recommend this book for NDErs and non-NDErs alike, you can learn a lot through reading it. I've had an NDE myself and I still learnt a new argument for use in trying to convince sceptics of the truth of NDEs. Go get a copy I doubt you will be disappointed. It will give you real insight into what having an NDE is really like.
To best understand NDEs for anyone who hasn't actually had one I would very strongly recommend a recently published book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. This, in my opinion, is something of a milestone in NDE literature, I have never read any other NDE book (and I have read many) that covers the ground in Amberts book in such detail and with such a convincing argument.
For grasping an intellectual concept of what an NDE is like I would strongly recommend the newly published book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. I haven't read any other book on NDEs that covers the information in the book in such detail — it really is a joy to read.
I think reading that book would give non-NDErs real insight into NDEs and that might help some folks overcome the fear of death if they suffer from that.
You're very welcome :)
One of the authors of that paper, Nancy Evans Bush, had a distressing void NDE herself. She has a series of books where she talks about it and how she was able to come to terms and eventually find meaning in it. I haven't read them myself, but they seem well reviewed and regarded by NDE researchers.
No. It is nothing like the euphoria one might feel during an orgasm — being in that light goes far, far, far, far (keep adding 'fars') beyond that. Being in the light has no component about it that is in any way related to what you might feel in a physical body. The 'love' in the afterlife is off-the-scale nothing at all like any love you will experience in physical existence — it goes so far beyond that it just blows it out of the water. My experience of it is detailed in my own NDE and can be read here: Peter N NDE
I would add, as you are trying to research for a book, that you should get a copy of a newly published book by Jens Amberts titled Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. If you read that you will have a much clearer conceptual idea of what an NDE is like with respect to 'feelings'. The book is very well written and easy to read. Get yourself a copy, you won't regret the purchase.
For a brilliantly argued account of why you should take NDEs seriously as solid evidence for the reality of an afterlife I would strongly recommend the book by Jens Amberts called Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists
The book is very well written and easy to read.
As an NDEr myself I know that an afterlife exist, period! However, convincing some others of the same is not an easy task. Then recently I came across a new book by Jens Amberts called Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists
In that book Amberts deals extensively with why NDE accounts should be taken as very credible evidence for an afterlife. His argument is well written, easy to read, and step-wise very logical.
Of my own NDE I had always wanted a 'best' argument that might work to convince sceptics of the credibility of NDEs and definitely Amberts book offers the best route I have so far read to achieve that. I now regard that book as essential reading for NDErs and non-NDErs alike. Very strongly recommended. If you want evidence of credibility, it is in this book.
Actually if you go and scan through the full report (not just the summary that you initially point to above) you will read the following:
>This suggests that memories of NDEs are flashbulb memories of really perceived hallucinations.
To read that, search in your browser, on the full-report page, for the string "In conclusion," and read that paragraph.
What the report is really saying (and the summary you point to implies it anyway) is that the authors believe NDEs to be physiologically based (and hence, from their view, not reality — they are 'perceived hallucinations').
Nothing to rejoice about there if you are convinced of the reality of NDEs. The report is clearly saying they are not real. It's the usual materialist hog-wash because they can't in any way whatsoever deal with the notion that NDEs are real — they will just not look at that at all — and just go spinning into their own imaginations to create a brain-based physiological fantasy that they can hold to in defence of their own materialism.
Keep your thinking-cap on and read more carefully in future. And, as part of doing that read, Jens Amberts book Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists — you will learn much more useful information on this kind of topic there. I read it myself, as an NDEr, and got a great deal out of it.
If you want a gold-mine of information on the reality and phenomenological aspect of NDEs as compared to the phenomenological nature of our day to day reality I would strongly recommend the new book by Jens Amberts Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. The book is an easy to read eye-opener on this for people that haven't had NDEs. It is also a must read for NDErs too.
I am an NDEr myself and got a great deal out of the book.
verycoolusername,
What makes me 'believe' in an afterlife? My own NDE which can be read here: Peter N NDE. However, I would like to qualify this: I do not 'believe' in an afterlife, from my NDE I know that an afterlife exists, no ifs, no buts, no maybes — there is a real difference between 'belief' and knowing.
Also, as you are tagged as an 'NDE Skeptic' I would strongly recommend the book by Jens Amberts Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists. If you work your way through that book — which is pretty easy to do — you might find you have come across an argument that allows you to overcome your skepticism. As an NDEr myself I found the argument by Jens Amberts to be the best I have ever read on why NDEs and an afterlife should be taken seriously by non-NDErs. It is an astonishingly well written and thought-out argument, don't miss it.
Silrak,
I deal with the issue of what you are referring to as 'feelings' and 'emotions' extensively in my NDE account — it was an aspect strongly featured in the NDE. The account can be read here: Peter N NDE
I would also strongly recommend that you read a newly published book by Jens Amberts on NDEs and their veracity and which does very markedly deal with feelings/emotions too in the 'NDE environment': Why an Afterlife Obviously Exists (If you don't live in the UK then you will find the book at other Amazon international websites too.)
I think if you read both of those this will greatly help in your understanding of emotions/feelings in the NDE environment and how they relate to emotions/ feelings in our ordinary day to day lives.
Hope this helps.
It sounds like you had a distressing near-death experience (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6173534/). Sadly, they don't get as much attention as blissful NDEs, but they are well-known by researchers so you're definitely not alone! I haven't read it, but I've heard good things about Nancy Evans Bush's book: https://www.amazon.ca/Dancing-Past-Dark-Distressing-Experiences-ebook/dp/B007SYTK5C. The author herself had a distressing void-like NDE.
i am about halfway through the book that i mentioned and if these personal accounts are to be believed then it is very contradictory to what we would expect from someone with no prior experience with sight. one account given by a woman who was blind from birth included a description of the stereotypical jesus. given the fact that there are no descriptions of jesus in the bible that in any way match what was described this is very interesting. they also claim to have seen their own body and even saw the surrounding terrain from the roof of the building.
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here is a link to the book
https://www.amazon.com/Mindsight-Near-Death-Out-Body-Experiences/dp/0595434975
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if these people are lying then i really have to question their motives, this book isn't exactly popular and the scientific journal that the authors are active in is fairly unknown to people that know nothing of the field. there isn't much to gain by lying here.
I feel that Dolores Cannon is reliable for a multitude of reasons. I'm not one to argue anyone on it though as one can only spare so much energy in a day. Many will jump all over and say she's unqualified because of not having "the right credentials", but to me, that is exactly why she does have the right spiritual credentials. Like Edgar Cayce, she's just simple enough to not be able to make this stuff up.
One of the most life changing books for many "starseeds" is
The three Waves of Volunteers, by Dolores Cannon. It may be found HERE
Now, I'm not going to say that every perspective she holds in rock solid gospel truth. Everything she learned she learned over the course of 50 years. She was a simple farm woman with no pre-existing notions about any of it. She simply stumbled into the truth over many decades. BEFORE the existence of the internet and "trendy" Ascension clubs which sow disinformation constantly. Her research into the topic is invaluable.
In the "where is your mind" podcast:
https://castbox.fm/episode/Ep.-5%3A-Near-Death-Experiences-id2183661-id183645213?country=us
From 13:42 he talks about a French woman who drifted out of her body and saw what was happening in the next operating room then told her Doctor later who confirmed it. This is enough, for me, to conclude that NDEs are real leading to the various conclusions that one comes to.
I've searched and can't find the paper/evidence of this NDE, though.
The NDEs of blind people (eg the one who saw a shoe on the ledge of the hospital) are pretty watertight as well.
This reminds me of a book by Ian Stevenson, Twenty Cases of Reincarnation. I've read, in that book, and some other places, stories like the one presented here.
Apparently, this is the way it's remembered by some. They exit the body, but hang around near objects in the physical plane, and take rebirth nearby. Children under 5 are most likely to remember these things.
Ian Stevenson's Wikipedia page links to a lot more of his work. It's pretty amazing.
Thanks for sharing!
I read this a while back: https://www.amazon.ca/Dancing-Past-Dark-Distressing-Experiences-ebook/dp/B007SYTK5C
Dark NDEs do happen, but seem to be fairly infrequent and more likely to be hallucinations of reality (paramedics etc) than the light ones.
I have struggles with this too but then I start thinking about how many times science in general has been wrong in the past (billions) and how so many scientists don't want to be wrong and therefore won't even look into new information/evidence or buy into it if it refutes their hypothesis/theory.
Scientists are very egotistic people for the most part. Most scientists will tell you that as well. There are many scientists off the record that will tell you they buy into NDEs/consciousness not being related to the mind. You have to remember, if scientists are admitting that the materialistic world isn't all that's here...it throws every single thing in their world for a loop.
Read this book, it's on veridical NDEs. https://www.amazon.com/Self-Does-Not-Die-Experiences/dp/0997560800
Great series because the stories pass the basic requirements for credibility (Do the people portrayed truly believe it happened). You can watch Tubi on any device without signing up: https://tubitv.com/home
(I'm new at the Reditt thing, so if stumble around, I apoligize)
Once we learn to quiet the mind through meditation, the inner voice becomes easier to hear. It is not something that one learn over night or in a week or two. it is something that we work on for the rest of our life. As time goes on it gets easier and easier.
You might try a book I am just publishing. It will be out in a few days and avaiable on Amazon. However I have a proof copy you could read if you are interested. It isn't on the using the "Inner Voice," but about My NDE and it is where I started. If you are interested, Click Here (http://issuu.com/renegadeteacher/docs/dying_to_really_live_1ae3d1ae82214d)
If you have trouble getting it, email me at and I'll get you a copy.
Duane
Imagine Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God's Promises, and the Exhilarating Future That Awaits You https://www.amazon.com/dp/080101526X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WTXMGVWJ9M4ZW4B482E8
Give that book a try. It summarizes Raymond Moody, MD research as well as Eben Alexander, MD (ex-atheist and Harvard Neurosurgeon testimony). It also discusses how no matter what religion, everyone saw the man in white.
This sub does indeed need a FAQ because I’m seeing this posted almost everyday, it’s not your fault! But I think it’s needed to help people like yourself. But my answer is there is a book called ‘The Self Does Not Die: Verified Paranormal Phenomena from Near Death Experiences’ It’s really informative and it shows NDE accounts with out of body experiences (OBE) and even a section about how it isn’t the brain shows examples why. It’s a really interesting and enlightening book!
Here is the link to the book! It says that on kindle (which you can get on the App Store) it’s free to read (I’m guessing it’s a sample of what’s in the book) or it’s £7.65 to buy on kindle. Which is a lot cheaper than the paperback copy.
I encourage you to read it! And honestly it will peak your curiosity so much it would make you wanna dive into more paranormal phenomena! And when that happens the evidence for an afterlife life is very overwhelming! 💖
This book is about reincarnation rather than NODes, but I found it very convincing regarding the existence of an afterlife.
Dr. Ian Stevenson was a very rigorous researcher who wanted his work to be taken seriously so he was very careful about reporting events that could be independently confirmed.
Tom Shroder is a journalist who was a skeptic but went with Dr. Stevenson on several research trips and wrote an objective account of Stevenson's work.
I hope this will bring you some comfort.
> After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal about Life and Beyond by Bruce Greyson
https://www.amazon.com/After-Doctor-Explores-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/1250263034
> Life After Life: The Bestselling Original Investigation That Revealed "Near-Death Experiences" by Raymond Moody
https://www.amazon.com/Life-After-Bestselling-Investigation-Experiences/dp/006242890X
Moody is another very prominent figure in the study of NDEs.
"Life Before Birth" is a great snappy name and also part of the subtitle of this massive book on the topic, which is lurking on my to-rea list: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008IUBIHS/?coliid=I1WCRYBOE69ION&colid=LR7XTITG22XV&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
I wish you well with the new subreddit! Joined.
I'm not at a place in my life where I can spend most of a workday watching 1 YouTube video, but skimming the navigation list I was puzzled by a "Habermas"--not a guy commonly discussed here. In fact the only Habermas I knew before today was a political theorist who I would be very surprised to learn had anything to say on NDEs.
Actually the Habermas in question is Gary Habermas, who wrote a...book on NDEs from a Christian ("biblical") perspective.
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Death-Exploring-Evidence-Immortality/dp/1592445098
If that's the first "expert" this video cites I am not super inclined to go into the rest of it.
Journey of Souls is by Dr. Michael Newton. There are a couple of follow up books too. Here is the link to Journey of Souls on Amazon:
You might enjoy this book
Disclaimer: Before I get attacked, this is my personal belief from research. I'm not trying to be harsh, but this is what I have gathered. Journey of Souls is a great starter book on these ideas.
So my belief and understanding is that "god" or the universe did not give you any of those conditions. In your past journey to the spirt realm, you conferred with your spiritual advisors and choose a path for your next physical life. YOU end up choosing whatever conditions you have on this plane because there are things that you need to experience with those conditions. And as unfair as it seems, you're not going to understand why you chose them in this lifetime, you will only remember why after you die. It seems insane to us in this existence, but for whatever reason the pain, suffering and challenges we experience here are necessary to our soul's growth. Perhaps you were a miserable bastard in a past life and you chose certain pain and suffering to balance your karma in this life. And suicide just hits the reset button on whatever you chose to experience in this life.
Clearly I can't state this as fact — only my own opinion and belief based on books I've read — but in the spirit realm between physical lives we can choose to be born with physical or mental deficiencies. Maybe you need that extra challenge in this life. These deficiencies can help us grow spiritually. If you can grow spiritually while having a debilitating disorder then you've overcome a lot in this life!
It's like life on hard mode because that's what your soul needed this time around.
If you've not read Journey of Souls I'd highly recommend it.
Dr. Eben Alexander (neurosurgeon) was in a 7 day coma during his NDE. His book Proof of Heaven is interesting!
> I didn't ask for this life, it's so cruel, I can't stop panicking. Why do we have to suffer this.
If what we believe about reincarnation is true, then you did choose this life. You chose your parents to help facilitate your journey, and you need these difficult lessons for your soul to grow. You've also gone through the birth/life/death cycle many times before, so it's really nothing to fear.
Please, please read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855
u/FusRoDoo are you aware of the nderf.org site? TONS of stories up there answer your question here. I've linked to the "exceptional" section. This is data collected by the Univ of Virginia, Dr Bruce Greyson, et al. And, since you are "science minded" and interested in this topic, have you looked into this book...? The Irreducible Mind
Strassman's book, DMT: The Spirit Molecule is interesting. I am sure drugs are imperfect (not trustworthy re: the way people respond to them - and, our brains are very delicate and I do NOT suggest hallucinogenics to anyone - to each their own) and this book shows that angle. I've not read it in a while, but recall people had some strange experiences that were not in the usual categories of NDEs, and I'd call them drug experiences, not NDE experiences.
He mention function codes in the book:
"There are only 144,000 people in this world"
which I wrote in one go, I was sleeping and then he tapped my head say wake up and I just have at it until the book is done.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078Q1HHV5
You don't have to download the book, it's just that after a computer crash I lose the original editable manuscript, I wish there is a way for me to download what I have uploaded to amazon...do you know a way ?