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I've never ordered the nylon one. To be totally honest, I don't know why they sell it. I didn't think they did, I had to look. Nylon is horrible for slings - it slips and stretches.
Get the cotton one, or of off Amazon.
Edit: or, if you have a CMP account, buy one from them.
If you're planning on doing Appleseed I recommend a quick detach cup for the front mount. I just installed this one and like it. Note it's for 1.25" - I had to wiggle the metal clip in sideways but it fits perfectly for that width sling.
JIALITTE Mount Adapter Standard... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DN8MWD9
The Hilljack units seem to be well-reviewed and are a lot cheaper.
i feel the same thing in prone as well, hasty or loop. Figured sling was too tight ... still waiting for naptime position, sometimes I feel it but it slips away. Considering bonding some grip tap like this https://www.amazon.com/CatTongue-Non-Abrasive-Grip-Tape/dp/B07YB9Q468 to bicep (or at least where my bicep is supposed to be)
Shooter at my last appleseed had this sight on a rear rail with a front techsight. Can't speak to if it works but if you grab a few front post sizes I bet you can dial it in.
UTG Sub-compact Rear Sight for Shotguns, .22 Rifles https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S0QVK4G/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_A6WVFZ234TW7BAY919KX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Thoughts...
The course is designed around the USGI sling. The "loop" method is a game changer and instantly improved my shooting over the "hasty" and "hasty-hasty" methods.
However...it's nice to learn to shoot the sling you plan to keep on the rifle.
So...
Magpul makes the RLS (Rifleman Loop Sling) and it combines the best of both. You can easily use it as a traditional two-point sling, but also use it in a loop-like configuration without making any changes.
When I discovered the RLS, I immediately swapped out my USGI slings for the RLS on all my rifles.
Under $20 at Amazon.
Price range would help a bit...
That said, there are 3 things I look for in a mat:
-Padded
-Light color
-Water resistant
Padding because that's what saves your elbows and knees. Light color keeps it cooler in the sun. Water resistant because a soggy mat - whether from dew, puddles or rain - is a slice of misery.
From a quick spin thru Amazon, I liked the NC Star mat for about $35, and the Midway Pro mat for about $60.
I have a similar mat to the NC one, it might be the same but differently branded. It's smaller but big enough, has decent padding, and packs small.
The Midway mat has a rubberized bottom to protect from slipping and moisture, includes stakes to keep it from blowing around, and has a few other features you might get to, like a spot to load a bipod against.
Either is a good choice, it just depends on what you want to spend and what features you'd like.
I went to Walmart and paid $5 for a roll up yoga mat, and an $8 acrylic blanket. The mat was easy to hose off afterwards. It also didn’t allow the damp ground to seep through.
Bring a blanket to bunch up under your chest when you’re prone, it helps.
There were people with really nice looking camo roll up mats with a shoulder strap, not a lot of cushion, and 2 hours in, they were damp, and their elbows were sore.
You could use your Amazon credit on the stuff below, urethane foam stuffing, link below is more than enough, pretty certain they also have it at Walmart. I had some at work.
Cut it and dry fit it to your stock for a good cheek weld, wrap it up with the tape, it’s the same material you can get in the Ace Bandage section at any pharmacy.
It’ll take a couple adjustments, but when you get it right, it’s like a custom fit rifle.
GEAR AID Camo Form Self-Cling and Reusable Camouflage Wrap, 2” x 144” Roll https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZTZU1A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_HE2P22GDDG1MVP6THYTV
GoTo Foam 1" Height x 18" Width x 18" Length 44ILD (Firm) Upholstery Cushion Made in USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07THQM9QY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_BWS1B2Q9QTWPG5SDNRFZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Well, you have a pic of the middle third of the rifle. Hate to be a downer, but you are not gonna have a good time with that scope mount. That is made for AR pattern rifles.
This is my preferred mount....
Game Reaper Ruger 10/22 Low Mount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F0O816/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_21YTT81BWS8X198MTFGQ
It comes in a couple of heights. I'm betting the low will work with your scope.
Congrats on your Rifleman score. Have you considered taking an Orange Hat and teaching others what you learned?
Competition shooters are successfully engaging targets out to 600y with 4x optics, so fundamentals are more important than magnification. I think the 2-7x Crossfire II is ideal for 25m and Rimfire KD. I don't know if it's durable enough for centerfire KD shooting. No experience there.
One combination that I see which is very effective is the Crossfire II scope, medium Vortex Optics Hunter rings, and the EGW rail to get the scope out far enough for good eye relief (https://www.amazon.com/EGW-Ruger-Picatinny-Rail-Screws/dp/B0875YTPYL).
I have no interest in any of these companies, but it's an effective and affordable combination for a 10/22. I'm sure there are other choices that work as well.
Hope this helps.
Liberty, yo.
Agreed. I ended up with this one from evolution gun works for my appleseed.
Evolution Gun Works 46100 Picatinny Rail 0 MOA Scope Mount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VIANJA/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_SE9CYXD6F5X0BGD5Q4JN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Just drill a new hole, tap it, and install new QD studs. Magpul makes specific ones for this. There is also a specific size drill bit and die tap size for making a new threaded hole.
https://magpul.com/firearm-accessories/slings/mounts/swivel-stud-2pack.html
Equipment problems are super frustrating :(
I would also try a few small boxes of different ammo, shooting with the stock on a sandbag, taking it slowly. Get like 4 different boxes of 50, and toss 5x 10 shot groups of each onto paper. Try some CCI SV (if it cycles), CCI mini, some other brands too. That'll help narrow down whether or not your gun just hates your ammo. My 22 certainly hates some ammo more than others.
I feel you on the weather too, though in the opposite respect. The appleseed I went to was 40-45 and very rainy, so we were lying around in puddles all day getting rained on.
I can't get good cheek weld on my 22 either, so I use this thing strapped to the stock: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FKGFQ6N/. Lower scope rings might help - if you can post a picture of your scope mounted, someone might be able to say one way or the other. I did switch out scope rings (measured stuff meticulously, I have like 1.5mm of clearance above the stock)
The good news is that standing is imo the hardest position, and it sounds like you're doing pretty great on that already.
Without drilling you can go with something like this... AIRSSON Tactical Rifle Cheek Rest Holder with 2 Molle Pouch for 8 Grid Shells and 2 Different Heights Cheek Leather Pad .22 .223 Cal .308 30-06 .300 .303 & 7.62mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKGFQ6N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dJqtFbBFW4382
Risers like this one just clamp on to your stock.
You can also do the "foam and ace bandage" cheek riser which is not permanent.
> Ruger 10/22 in stock configuration, I'd throw a $50 fixed on there. Vortex, Simmons, etc.
Problem with these scopes is that they're usually parallax free at 100 or 50 yards. At 25 yards, you're fighting a significant amount of alignment error and dealing with a blurry sight picture. If nothing else, it's more fatiguing to shoot like this, because you're eyes are going to try and bring that image into focus and fail.
If you're determined to go with a fixed objective scope, I'd get one that you can at least modify to be parallax free at 25yds and make that your dedicated Appleseed/AQT scope. But honestly, you can easily find fairly inexpensive AO scopes by those same manufacturers for under $100.
> Appleseed is more about quickly firing strings than about driving tacks.
This is only true in Stage 2 and 3 of AQTs. Stage 1 is not rapid fire, and stage 4 is definitely about tack-driving. Nothing about iron sights really makes this any easier. You can always back a scope out to 3/4x and have large, less-obstructed field of view without any of the issues of trying to keep the front sight in focus.
And a lot of people just don't have the eyesight to do well with irons. Nothing wrong or limiting with using a scope.
Got my patch two weeks ago in Sacramento. Stayed at my bro inlaw's place and forgot to bring my mat. He had an old foam rubber kitchen mat in his garage - 2' x 3' Rocky, dusty ground. 218 on the first 227 on the second.
this was the mat I scored my patch with: https://www.amazon.com/Oversized-Antifatigue-Kitchen-STUDY-FLORAL/dp/B072FKBR5H/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1509000720&sr=8-18&keywords=kitchen%2Bmats%2Bcushioned%2Banti%2Bfatigue&th=1
Sling
If you had more time, you could get one from the Appleseed store.
Don't forget sling swivels for a 1.25in sling, whether QD or otherwise. Front and back. You need to detach the rear mount point, so tying the sling on won't work.
I use 10 round pmags myself. Magpul does make them.
Edit: changed to cotton sling instead of nylon.
Midway Pro is the standard. I have two of them.
Enough padding, good width, stakes down, rolls up without a lot of messing around.
I also have a Bob Allen mat that I caught a deal on. It works well too. Buckles instead of velcro is nice, but it's a little narrower than the Midway Pro. Lighter color helps in the sun.
Look into football arm sleeve/pads. Like this. I use a similar pair, and they work great. Keeps my arms covered to prevent sunburn, but keeps them cool. The pads are grippy and padded but don't slip like hard pads do. And there are no straps or velcro to worry about. Just slip em on and be done with it.