I started shooting weddings last year: a photographer asked if I would do it, I could use the money, so I said yea sure. I thought I was going to hate it, but after this wedding I absolutely loved it. This was the sweetest couple ever, and they read loveletters to eachother - which really helped me bind the story together.
This wedding taught me how important it is to have somewhat of a storyline, to not just shoot clips and put them in a sequence. It doesn't work for all weddings, but this one worked out great. It's still the one I'm most proud of, and it kinda happened by accident :)
Realized you wanted advice as well. I have shot a few weddings now with DSLR and I will say this: to make your editing easier, keep your start and stop recording to a minimum. Hit record and stop at the 9/10 minute mark if possible. You do not want the nightmare of multiple clips for multiple cams. I learned that the hard way.
If you are not lighting anything, you want fast lenses. The standard seems to be a 70-200 f/2.8 on the centre, with the other 2 cams on the sides covering bride and groom faces. 135/f2 works here (assuming you are renting lenses) but the 50MM could work too.
Try going to the venue beforehand and do some testing, so you will know where you want to situate all the cameras and all that. I am still learning as I go, so make of this what you will.
These videos should help, but are kind of moot if you aren't renting lenses.
Most recent from this year
versus my first wedding video 2 years ago.
Did my first one for free because I couldn't find wedding work with no wedding portfolio. Most recent was $999.
Went from crop sensor DSLR to full frame. Went from a kit lens to a few f/1.8 lenses. Went from lame tripod to a fluid head tripod. Went from iMovie to Final Cut Pro X. Learned how to balance color a little better. Learned that "image stabilization" in post shouldn't be used nearly as much as I was. Learned that when everyone stands up for the bride walking down the aisle, there are limited places to shoot from. I've learned that a big elaborate rig will suck when it's time to run and gun and I want a minimal rig whenever possible. I've learned that sliders are a pain in the ass, but clients like those kind of shots.
Sorry, I'd hate to hijack your thread with a video of my own, but I just wanted to make sure you got where I'm coming from as far as audio (using it to carry your film, cutting to the speaker, etc.) This is our latest same-day edit. https://vimeo.com/49420369
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It really wasn't that scandalous.
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Using the neck strap as stability whilst shooting handheld can help reduce these sort of effects, alongside keeping elbows tucked etc.
Maybe you could try something along these lines, with the neck strap fastened in to the holes in the frame - I did this recently on a shoot and while the footage retain a handheld style look, there was no jitter or warping or stutters in movement from my grip.
50+ weddings here. The subtle jerks in the camera motion is most likely due to in-camera image or lens stabilization. It’s meant for slowing down movement to capture a better still frame, but fails when being used to stabilize video since your usually performing camera motions beyond what the software algorithm can handle. The result is these little bumps in the shot like the camera hit some invisible wall. I recommend turning these functions off as they conflict with any other attempt by the user to get a stable shot.
A solid drag head tripod is essential for getting smooth pans and are not too spendy if your shooting DSLR. Davis and Sanford have a great product on Amazon here
Don’t use gimbals if they are not properly balanced. the shot looks worse if it sways too and fro. Gimbals are only worth is when they are optimized and the shot floats, and glides through a scene.
Other than that, I would shorten up the title splash. It displays for too long and was noticeable.
Color, composition and exposure looks great!
Shot on a 7D and 60D with the 11-16 Tokina 2.8, Sigma 30 1.4, Zeiss 50 1.4 & Canon 24-70 2.8. 2 Shooters. Stabilization via 561 BHDV monopod, Glidecam HD 2000 & a DIY slider. 2 shooters.
A slower, more contemplative edit. I'm probably 85% satisfied with it. Feel as though it might be a tad too slow during the ceremony. Our approach is not to film weddings but to film couples getting married.
Tried a new type of grade. Thoughts ?
Disclaimer : Video is in french.
First wedding film. Solo shooting. It's not perfect, but I'm proud of it, and I learned a ton. Inexplicably, the day went without any hiccups, save for some grain on my secondary during the ceremony, but there wasn't really anything I could do about that -- church lighting...you know how it can be.
I'd recommend FUNSNAP PHONE GIMBAL, Great Buy for me
Here’s the secret to 8-12 hour gimbal shoots - Kamerar MogoCrane Belt Kit,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MZFJPY6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Makes it a breeze. You’re welcome, please pay it forward to another filmmaker.
Encore can burn them but I suggest making an ISO with Encore and then burn with another software application.
As for what software to use, 'Burn' is a free / open source program for burning disk images (ISOs) to physical disc media.
http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html
I ever used LightMV to make a slideshow for my wedding. I like the wedding templates they provides. However, I need to upload photos myself when using this app. It finally costed 19$ for the slideshow.
Good luck. Practice, practice, practice. If you haven't already, be sure to watch this https://vimeo.com/26869155
Get it ASAP and take a day focusing on things near, then far, then back. Report back on how it was using it on the big day!
Yeah it’s the one with the fingerprint thing which I did find useful. I contacted Samsung as soon as I realised what had happened and had to send the unit to them at my expense, they were going to just replace it but I requested a refund. The office is based in Sydney and due to covid they’re all working from home so everything takes longer.
I won’t replace it, I now just buy a NVME Ssd, and a good enclosure like the ones here: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07JFM524H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Upgradable, replaceable, cheaper. No issues with these.
Try something like this. Will give you a break for those stationary stores that are still on the gimbal. Kamerar MogoCrane Belt Kit, Weight Support for Single Handed Gimbal Stabilizer, DJI Ronin-S, Zhiyun Crane 2, Crane Plus, Moza Air 2, AirCross, Hold The Gimbal Easier and Longer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MZFJPY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_2ADA3MYBTFPJZG16N14P
Fair! I shoot with a mirrorless (XT4) so I forget about the SC’s weight issues sometimes. Definitely recommend a side handle or an adjustable handle like this: SMALLRIG Adjustable Wooden Handle Hand Grip for DJI Ronin S Gimbal – BSS2314 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RVBH8Z6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_RhgaGbD6M5YNN
I prefer the adjustable handle because of its versatility and easier (for me) to get low shots a la “the briefcase grip”
I get some cheap jewelry boxes from walmart and some gold ribbon to tie the box up with and throw all the files on one of these flash drives with a handwritten note inside.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B087CD4L3K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks for the tip, a slider looks handy. Is this something I can cheap out on a bit and still get decent results, or should I cough up for better equipment/consider renting? If it's more for establishing shots I'm considering going the Amazon route.
I think I've ruled out renting the DSLR gimbal. Still might get the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 - it's pretty reasonably priced and some shots with the iPhone/Pixel 2 might round things out nicely (I've been very impressed with the video I've gotten from them!).
buy a couple pay as you go hot spots, and tether them together with Speedify... you'll spread the data across multiple devices so not one account is overusing data AND if you diversify the providers, you'll have better luck in areas where one provider isn't as strong as the others.
I would do this even if you can use the venue wifi... some of them are terribly terribly bad... especially once you get all the guests there and they connect up.
I'd suggest a single source led light. Like this: https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Reflector-Continuous-Recording-Photography/dp/B07PBG17PG
The light can be shaped more easily than with an led panel, and you can get modifiers like a fresnel. They're the best
I find that for wedding videography given that you always need to be ready to shoot, unless you're some sort of uncanny expert at balancing the gimbal, even if you had a perfect quick release system to switch between them, I just wouldn't do it anyway.
With my set up, I have one camera that always remains on the ronin-s, and my other two cameras have manfrotto QR plates on them which I use on tripods, monopod, or even handheld in some situations.
Also, on the bottom of my ronin-s, I keep a manfrotto QR plate, and use a QR mount connected to the little tripod it comes with to slide on so I can set it down. But sometimes, I take the Ronin-s and mount the whole thing on to my Monopod, so I can get smooth motion shots and then rest my arm in between.
It also works pretty well to emulate just a tripod when you have the foot of the Monopod planted.
That said, if you want to just switch your camera in between them anyway,
Buy something like this: Wecooland ACamera Quick Release Plate Rapid Adapter Mount for Manfrotto 577/501PL/500AH/701HDV/ 7M1W/561B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WPNLP1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_4kTzCb1Z0CZPN
And mount the base pretty much permanently to your Ronin, and mount your camera to that and figure out the balancing with it.
There also might be a way to use the Ronin-s qr plate, and have some sort of adapter for manfrotto tripods, but I haven't seen them.
Then it sounds you already have the Pro. This is the model I'm talking about: https://www.amazon.com/Rode-Microphones-VideoMic-Compact-Microphone/dp/B005HZYZWW/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1533927664&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=rode+videomic+pro&psc=1
However, you've been using it incorrectly by allowing the camera to determine the gain. Any noise you get is most likely from your camera's low quality preamps.
I will say that I'm super surprised you've had durability issues with it. Most people love the Videomic Pros. It's really about the only legitimate on camera shotgun I know about that isn't massive.
It depends on the mixer, but generally the outputs on offer are XLR, 1/4", and RCA. I'm not sure if the H4N Pro is any different, but I'm fairly sure the XLR input on the H4N is a mic level input and you're better off connecting to the H4N with a 1/4" connector into the combo port. Buy a selection of cables that have XLR, 1/4", and RCA at one end and 1/4" at the other for your Zoom.
For example, and RCA cable to 1/4" might look like this.
This would give you two 1/4" connections to connect your Zoom and potentially have two different input levels, though from memory, the H4N has decent auto-levels.
Get a Takstar shotgun mic: amazon (only $27 USD!!)
To anyone other than video / audio professionals, the audio quality difference is unnoticeable when compared to the rode video mic pro. Just tried it out for the first time on a wedding a couple weeks ago and it was fantastic. Incredibly useful investment.
Then buy a monopod. I only suggested tripod because between the mono- and tri-pod, tripods will always without fail give you a stable shot. BUT if you watch behind the scene videos of people like Kraig Adams shooting a wedding, he will sometimes shoot the entire wedding on a monopod. Roaming with a monopod is beyond easy, and not intrusive whatsoever. Unfortunately this is an expensive industry to start out in, but in order to do this even part time, you need to invest in a little more equipment even if it's money you were hoping not to spend. You're investment will pay itself off eventually, because it will be improving the quality of your work. And if you take care of your equipment, you can resell it for a super small loss - basically no skin off your back.
If you start looking into a monopod, I highly recommend the Sirui204S. Combine that with a manfrotto fluid head (that will likely come with its own QR plate), and you'll be golden. And BUY USED!!! Most people baby their equipment or let it sit in their closet for a year, then need cash for a car or something so they sell it. Buy used unless you absolutely need something to be perfectly new.
not sure why'd it would be too hot. You could always try using an attenuator to bring down the signal. plug it into your recorder then plug the xlr from the dj board into it.
This is what I use, it's a pretty good deal still on amazon for a quality fluid head and a solid tripod. You'll need to add a quick release plate to the top of that for most DSLR's though so plan to add another ~$35 or so for that.
The Ronin is a wedding videographer's best friend. I would highly consider leaving a tripod/monopod before a Ronin. We carry around all our camera gear in a 1510 pelicase (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peli-1510-Protector-Dividers-Black/dp/B000IO8ZYG/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1456511397&sr=1-3&keywords=pelicase). It wheels around, which makes it very easy to transport and you can operate out of it for the entire day. We tend to arrive and start setting up gear before any guests arrive so looking bulky is never really worry of ours.
In terms of everything else, we have a big rollercase which holds about 4-5 tripods/monopods. It may be a bit bulky and big, but it sure looks a lot better than struggling to walk around with 5 tripod bags hanging around your shoulders and makes transporting everything from the ceremony location to the reception easy as!
If you can't afford the gear yet, I would look to see if there are any good rental shops in your area. At the bare minimum you want a monopod and 2 tripods.
Good audio doesn't really come cheap. The best you can do right now on a budget is probably a couple of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Z7NL34/ref=s9_simh_gw_p229_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-2&pf_rd_r=1QXDDNGHFAX04ZEW37C5&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2091268722&pf_rd_i=desktop with mics to go a long with it. Put one on the groom and one of the officiant. Eventually you will want lavs in order to be able to monitor your audio.
You will also want a recorder such as this one http://www.amazon.com/DR-40-4-Track-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B005NACC6M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451510522&sr=8-2&keywords=tascam along with a bunch of varied audio cables to be able to record from any audio sources they may have on site. This is likely going to be your best source of audio.
I saw this on your site last week. We have 2 C100s and yes the learning curve was several months but I am so glad we went with those over 5D or any other type of DSLR. There is other reasons we went with them. We do other work than weddings and its fits our style a lot more than any DSLR we have used. IMO it doesnt really matter what you use as long as you are comfortable using it and make it look sick. TO each their own.
We are about to purchase the edelkrone slider. Looks amazing and it was we need.
We ahve the DJI Ronin, and the Manfrotto Monopod with the little feet. That is so great. It seems weird that those little guys would make a difference but they for sure do and is to not so in the way as a tripod.
A variety of audio cables is something at first we didn't realize we needed until trying to plug into random DJ sound boards. THey are cheap and a most for sure.
My only other opinion is that I don't like using big size memory cards. We use 16 GB and 32 GB cards. I don't want to film everything on 1 big card and than if anything happens to that card I lose everything. IF I remember correctly the 5d records at a higher rate for space than c100. We average between 50 to 100 GB every wedding.
I am looking at getting this device as a way to instant backup all my cards as the get full on location, http://www.amazon.com/HyperDrive-Colorspace-Portable-Storage-Backup/dp/B017OB42YM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448017277&sr=8-1&keywords=HyperDrive+ColorSpace+UDMA3
I'd suggest this one instead. It's more expensive, but it's the best stabilizer I own. What's great is the crazy height you can get with it if you hold it up and face it down to your subject -- gives you a whole 'nother way to film a reception.
Good luck!!
Definitely get some more memory cards. Between me and two other shooters, we carry about 9 32gb cards. Like nakajogeek said, "if one fails, I have others to fall back on". Granted, you probably don't need 9 cards, since you can backup to an external hard drive when one runs out, but it's so nice and less stressful to not have to worry about dumping cards all the time.
Everything else on your equipment list looks fine. The only other thing I would highly recommend is a Manfrotto monopod. I bring more equipment with me than you're bringing, and I still end up using the monopod the most. It's so much more versatile than a tripod. If you need to quickly run somewhere to capture a shot, you can be ready to shoot in a few seconds. I also get a lot of slider-type shots with the monopod because it's quicker and often comes with the result I had in mind. The only time I use a tripod is during the ceremony/toasts/mounting a slider.
Link for the Monopod on Amazon. If it's too much to buy, you can always rent it for about $30 for a few days.
I just found out that newer Blu-rays come with printable tops for compatible ink jets. I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but this is the set I want to get:
I've have not used the Tascam but I've always used a zoom h1 with a lav mic hooked onto the groom.
I highly recommend the giant squid lav mic here: http://www.amazon.com/Giant-Squid-Audio-Lab-Omnidirectional/dp/B00HWMG44U/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1427951935&sr=1-1&keywords=giant+squid+lav
Non-mobile: Laing M30P stabilizer
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