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https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/8cdi46/nextcloud_provider_for_privacy/

You've got:

• Disroot - https://disroot.org

• Woelkli - https://woelkli.com/en

EDIT: formatting

I am having my calendar and contacts hosted on Nextcloud. Woelkli offers 500mb for free which is more than enough.

Passwords I would store in KeePass combined with a key file for higher security. For OS X KeePassXC is pretty good.

Mobile Browser I am using Safari and Firefox Focus.

On your desktop client you should also consider "Random Agent Spoofer" to lower your finder print. I was able to get mine down to 10.9.

File storage I would recommend Nextcloud. Cryptomator is pretty good if you want to encrypt your files before uploading them. There is also an iOS app available, which makes the access pretty easy.

Depends on where you are geographically and what privacy laws you want your provider to comply to.

I'm based in Switzerland, using www.eqipe.ch. Another one in Switzerland is https://woelkli.com/en.

I personally don't trust myself to maintain my own Nextcloud and keep it secure. That's why I don't self host.

I chose a small hosting company in Switzerland (www.eqipe.ch). Another one which claim to be super privacy aware is Woelkli: https://woelkli.com/en/about.

You can use https://github.com/marcelklehr/floccus to backup bookmarks. There are free Nextcloud servers available - I use https://woelkli.com/

>Also, I'm looking for addon to monitor traffic - so it would show download/upload stats for separate tabs, maybe total for domains, and summary (day/week/month). Something like that. There is no build in monitor, isn't there?

I know of nothing like this.

Thanks for the reply,

Safe is in terms of data security and privacy. The hosting company namely Linode won't mine my data or sell my data. I feel like it's ultimately someone's computer or hardware where I store the data.

Can I trust the cloud service providers(Digitalocean, Linode) or not. Countries like Germany, Switzerland provide cloud services, do they really provide data security and privacy namely.,

https://wasabi.com/ https://webo.cloud/ https://woelkli.com/en

Suggest any cloud which you prefer which is good and trustable like zero-knowledge encryption and publish a white paper regarding their cloud services.

Regarding self-hosting, my public IP keeps changing, how to get the right IP to connect when I try to connect to my home server.

The answers you have given are very good, anyway I have used for a long time Wolkli, if I have to choose the lesser evil then a server in Switzerland is better than a USA server, always regarding "non-self-hosted" clouds this project seems interesting: https://filen.io/ (does not use Nextcloud)

A trustworthy nextcloud provider would do this as they have CalDav and CardDav for calendar and address book.

Woelkli in Switzerland have a free 2 GB tier - I used this for 2 years and it worked perfectly. The paid accounts are expensive if you need lots of storage.

> Would you say that signing up to providers to use nextcloud is a bad idea?

Realistically, it would probably be far better than using something like google drive. As far as I know, Nextcloud has end-to-end encryption, so the server operator wouldn't have access to files if that's the case. I have heard some people say that the end-to-end encryption in Nextcloud is buggy, so your results my vary. If I was in the market for a Nextcloud operator, I'd pick one that is in a good jurisdiction like Switzerland or Iceland with other people online vetting for their reliability. I don't know anything about these providers, but these two are based in switzerland: wölkli & OpsOne

I know you said no self hosting, but... If you have decent internet, NextcloudPI makes it super easy to host your own Nextcloud server on something like a Raspberry pi, some other single board computer, or even an older/spare desktop or laptop. You could likely get it running for less than $50 if you used a used older laptop from craigslist or ebay or some other local marketplace. Nextcloud Pi walks people through every step of the way even security. If you can install a Linux distro, you could probably install Nextcloud pi.

I have nextcloud on a server and you can do it like this: make a new directory, share it and set the option "file drop". Then send the link and even non tech savvy people should be able to click a few buttons and select the files to upload.

Of course you would need to have nextcloud... Some providers have a free account, e.g. woelkli.

I use KolabNow, it syncs over CalDAV via davdroid to my phone

I have my parents doing the same except for free with Woelkli: https://woelkli.com/en

I am working on moving all of us to Tutanota

I created a woelkli free account. It was recommended as a nextcloud provider so i signed up directly with them. I tried signing up with nextcloud but for some reason Caldav(calendar) and Cardav(contacts) wasnt working. When i signed up directly with them it worked.

Now i use DavX5 to sync, and its been working fine.

> Well because the cloud cannot accidentally fall in the ocean like my phone.

Hmmm 🤔

If you're at all interested in keeping a computer at home that hosts your data for you, you could check out Syncthing or any of the suggestions over at r/selfhosted.

If you're diligently encrypting your files client-side, then the actual hosting itself is indistinguishable, and you'll want to focus on which service claims to track metadata the least (when you are accessing your files, where you are accessing them from, what device you're using, etc.). Note that the only thing you'll be able to consider are their claims. A company could claim to keep your data on an offshore data center, but you'd have no way of knowing if they were secretly an NSA honeypot.

Honestly, I don't think I would worry as much about a company tracking my metadata as I access encrypted files on their platform. I searched the web for "Switzerland cloud storage" and found some services like wölkli and such, but I don't know that I could actually articulate why this platform would be a more secure option than just using iCloud and client-side encryption. If there's not a lot of third-party reassurance that a platform does what it says then I'm skeptical of the value that they provide.

This is the same reason I tend to be outspoken against VPN providers, so take my opinion with a grain of salt I guess.

You could use https://woelkli.com as a temporary nextcloud sync target. I believe it supports webdav so you should be good to go there.

But what are you even looking for in a note taking app? Not many that exist are encrypted.

Yes. On android you can use davdroid plus a nextcloud instance as woelkli.com (1 GB is enough for both contacts and calendar).

No, dude, you’re incorrect. Let me count the ways.

• Joplin doesn’t have servers. Users sync Joplin using third party services.

• Joplin staffers can’t see any user data (because no servers)

• Therefore, Joplin can’t be compelled to release anything about its users.

• Do you even know anything about Joplin?

The website for the cloud provider OP is using states that they cannot decrypt the information.

https://woelkli.com/en/features

Assuming this is true, why wouldn’t Joplin’s own E2EE be redundant?

I’m not saying that OP shouldn’t use Joplin’s E2EE, BTW.

Of the two, I'd have to say Tresorit.

On the NextCloud front, there are some reputable hosts out there too. Personally I use Woelkli, but I've also heard good things about Disroot. And for larger hosted instances a lot of people like Hetzner.

In terms of end-to-end encrypted clouds, have you also considered Sync.com? (that's my referral link, so you'd get an extra gigabyte on the free plan of you sign up using it)

I personally use NextCloud for Calendar and Contacts syncing. It supports the CardDAV and CalDAV protocols so is compatible with a lot of software (e.g. you can use DAVx5 to sync it to Android, and then use whatever calendar app you like), and there are lots of hosted options out there (I recommend Woelkli), or you can self-host it for more privacy.

You always take a risk with using a hosted service, but their privacy policy is good and very clear, their pricing is pretty good too, and their servers are based in Europe so they claim to be GDPR compliant - I'd say they seem a lot better than many other NC hosts I've seen.

I personally use https://woelkli.com - based in Switzerland - they can be quite expensive though.

Try KeePassDX, which is available on F-Droid and has features such as open database in read-only mode.

For syncing your DB file you can try woelkli, they are offering free 1GB plan on Nextcloud. Pretty enough for the database file I believe.

Always do backups, so you can restore your database in whatever situation.

On Desktop KeePassXC helped me with its history of changes feature to restore my password when I genereated new one by mistake.

Somebody in r/privacy mentioned wölkli a couple days ago. I just started using it for calendar (CalDAV) and contacts (CardDAV) and everything seems to work pretty well (I'm mainly an OSX guy).

Thanks, I'll give it a shot

edit: it works but in webdav mode; looks like woelkli.com (at least free version) doesn't give you permission to install Nextcloud Bookmarks app which is required by the floccus addon. Or did I do something wrong?

Thanks anyway

If you don't have the capability to host your own Nextcloud, I would recommend Woelkli who offers a free and secure Nextcloud with limited storage, which is no problem for using it for CalDav/CardDav.