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OnOff You can buy private phone numbers from a list 24 countries supported (including UK) with monthly payment (~3$/mo for each number). You can call, send text message. Unfortunately you can't send MMS yet.
Hi, Thanks for this reply, your point of view is really interesting.
> The ones that work for an agency only get screened clients with their real data known.
First, Escort working for agencies are not the majority (probably less than 20%)
Then, that may be true in the US, where escorts screen with TER, EROS or real IDs...
But place where prostitution is not forbidden (Europe, where OP, you and me seem to be) escorts do not screen.
I've been seeing escorts from those last 3 years in Paris/Berlin/London mostly on the high-end side, independent local provider (and also tried instagram model and some famous pornstars). From the thousands providers I contacted and the ~100 I met, maybe less than 3 of them asked my ID. It's just not the norm in Europe.
You can book any escorts in 10 minutes with "Hi, would you be available at XX for XX hours in incall ? If so what would be your conditions." And three messages later you have her full adress.
Whereas the screening process for SB is much more longer and safe. Messaging on SA > Texting on phone > Meeting in a public place > knowing each other > eventually considering to have intimacy > negotiating term of the arrangement > after a few meet : Intimacy. Which may leads to having a long term relationship with One SD, and be safe for the X coming months.
Escort > get a message from a random stranger asking to meet > If he accepts the rates : Intimacy (Hoping to don't meet someone crazy). For every clients every day.
> And I think the risk to be scammed, attacked or raped is higher for a naive newbie SB.
You are talking about newbie SB, but you didn't mention newbie escort. Escorts also have to start somewhere, they don't become veteran from the day 1.
And I personally think it's even worse being a newbie escort than being a newbie SB.
Just imagine, after some text messages, the escort accept an appointment with a random new client. Once he comes to her place, and let him come in, he starts threatening, how to say no to a client when you are alone in a private place with someone stronger/bigger than you ? You might be an experienced or newbie escort, the result will be the same.
At least from the SB side, the usual meeting process let you the time for trying to screen and reduce the risk to meet this kind of crazy people.
> They are not naive and know the risks and how to avoid them.
Well, I could say the same for SBs. Why SBs would be more naive than escorts ?
Same as before, Naive or not, it's hard to avoid risks when your first meeting with a client, is only you and him in a private place.
> There seem to be boards were 'bad clients' are published as a warning to other working girls.
The blacklist are most of the time useless with apps like OnOff, clients can easily manage/buy/text with multiple phone numbers for 2€/month. Then the blacklist are not frequently updated but also compromised by escorts who wants to keep their regulars by blacklisting them.
> They got regularly checked on STD's and are not easy to be talked into BB.
No matter how much they are checked, More partners, implies more risks to get STD, even with condom (which is not 100% safe), there are diseases you can catch with condom (HPV, Syphilis, Genital Herpes, Molluscum... and so on). Lastly, the vast majority of providers do BBBJ, CIM/CIF...
comment content: Hi, Thanks for this reply, your point of view is really interesting.
> The ones that work for an agency only get screened clients with their real data known.
That may be true in the US, where escorts screen with TER, EROS or real IDs...
But place where prostitution is not forbidden (Europe, where OP, you and me seems to be) escorts do not screen.
I've been seeing escorts from those last 3 years in Paris/Berlin/London mostly on the high-end side, independent local provider (and also tried instagram model and some famous pornstars). From the thousands providers I contacted and the ~100 I met, maybe less than 3 of them asked my ID. It's just not the norm in Europe.
You can book any escorts in 10 minutes with "Hi, would you be available at XX for XX hours in incall ? If so what would be your conditions." And three messages later you have her full adress.
Whereas the screening process for SB is much more longer and safe. Messaging on SA > Texting on phone > Meeting in a public place > knowing each other > eventually considering to have intimacy > negotiating term of the arrangement > after a few meet : Intimacy. Which may lead to a long term SD you will be able to trust and be safe for the X coming months.
Escort > get a message from a random stranger asking to meet > If he accepts the rates : Intimacy. Do that for every clients every day.
> And I think the risk to be scammed, attacked or raped is higher for a naive newbie SB.
You are talking about newbie SB, but you didn't mention newbie escort. Escorts also have to start somewhere, they don't become veteran from the day 1.
And I personally think it's even worse being a newbie escort than being a newbie SB.
Just imagine, after some text messages, the escort accept an appointment with a random new client. Once he comes to her place, and let him come in, he starts threatening, how to say no to a client when you are alone in a private place with someone stronger/bigger than you ? You might be experienced or a newbie, the result will be the same.
At least from the SB side, the casual meeting process let you the time for trying to screen and reduce the risk to meet this kind of crazy people.
> They are not naive and know the risks and how to avoid them.
Well, I could say the same for SBs. Why SBs would be more naive than escorts ?
Same as before, Naive or not, it's hard to avoid risks when your first meeting with a client, is only you and him in a private place.
> There seem to be boards were 'bad clients' are published as a warning to other working girls.
The blacklist are most of the time useless with apps like OnOff, clients can easily manage/buy/text with multiple phone numbers for 2€/month. Then the blacklist are not frequently updated but also compromised by escorts who wants to keep their regulars by blacklisting them.
> They got regularly checked on STD's and are not easy to be talked into BB.
No matter how much they are checked, More partners, implies more risks to get STD, even with condom (which is not 100% safe), there are diseases you can catch with condom (HPV, Syphilis, Genital Herpes, Molluscum... and so on). Lastly, the vast majority of providers do BBBJ, CIM/CIF...
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