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There are three occasions on which discounts are usually in effect.

1. Black Friday in November/December
2. Christmas in December/January
3. AirVPN's birthday in May/June

If by soon you mean you can wait a few months, wait till the end of May and look again. :)

If you select a generic Canada config, AirVPN will choose a server for you. Since I found that I get different speeds on different servers, I test a bunch and stick with a particular one when I care about the speed.

Do an ipconfig from your command prompt and if the AirVPN IP address shows under the openvpn tap device, then yes, point qbitorrent to it.

I think it's interesting that you choose to create a new reddit account to make this "review" of AirVPN but complain about fake accounts.

Anyway, are you claiming fake accounts on the AirVPN forum or are you claiming that AirVPN staff make fake accounts on other web sites and taint reviews of other VPNs?

I love AirVPN. Been with them going on three years. Best VPN I have ever used. I trust them, as much as I can trust any company. BTW, Italy is not one of the five eye nations, though that doesn't mean they don't have some sort of reciprocal spying agreement with other countries.

Even I am asking myself why at least the Windows version doesn't have an update check implemented. But:

Windows version = Linux version = macOS version.

Windows is in need of such micromanagement. On Linux, you have AirVPN's deb/rpm repo for this and Eddie gets updated with the system. Don't know how it is on macOS but I believe similar to Win. So I think it's not implemented because it'd be a superfluous feature on at least one platform.

Furthermore, AirVPN is working on Eddie 3 at the moment and I believe this is the version that will include many of the features the community wanted for years.

It's probably better to post it on the Forums instead. Since you are able to connect to AirVPN you are also able to post there. :)

Nevertheless, I appreciate your attempt. I need to wrap my head around all this and add a good sidebar and layout.

Not hiding from Air. but if I'm connecting to a US server why would Eddie be pinging a Netherlands IP if it wasn't a phone home? And if Eddie is phoning home then it must be a static IP for AirVPN. That's what troubled me about the Flag

Thank you for the reply.

I've now read all the tethering threads on AirVPN forums, but there's nothing specifically regarding the issue I'm having. There's several threads about the"checking IPv4" issue. I tried the suggestions of unchecking the "check AirVPN DNS and "check if tunnel works". That actually got AirVPN to connect, but any TLS connection attempts fail, which means some webpages fail to load. I reenabled those options and kept researching.

I found a thread elsewhere that AT&T (my mobile provider) runs a service called U-Verse on port 443, the same one AirVPN uses, that possibly causes Eddie to not connect. I could find no way to change the port options in Eddie.

The cable modem is fixed now, so I guess I'll drop the issue until the next outage.

I've looked at your screenshots and can't see why things wouldn't be working.

Have you actually tried to connect to see if maybe the port test is wrong?

Have you made sure that you used the credentials for the device the port forward rules are setup as using?

I have port forwarding working with AirVPN in pfsense - have had for years and my setup looks the same as yours.

• Try adding the rules to the OpenVPN interface instead of the AIRVPN_… one.

• Try removing the gateway on the incoming rules. Having an explicit gateway causes pfSense to not apply the reply-to header, which isn’t what you want. The traffic is flowing in on the VPN interface and will flow back out the same way even without an explicit gateway.

• this is helpful and pretty thorough:

• take all of this with a grain of salt. I’ve been unable to get port forwarding working with AirVPN and pfSense myself. The steps above got me closer, but I haven’t had full success.

Yes, I have this problem also. The VPN works but I can't connect with any site having anything to do with AIRVPN. I get the message 'Not secure. Your clock is ahead'. I get the same message on other sites as well. I contacted the AirVPN help guys with email and they tried to help but couldn't figure it out. If you figure it out please let us know.

I don't think Eddie is the issue. I get the incorrect clock message from certain sites whether I am running Eddie or not. Eddie is working now, but I still can't reach any sites connected with Eddie or AirVPN.

> I believe that by default, AirVPN uses port blocking to ensure all traffic is going through the VPN. When you disconnect (and shutting down through the GUI disconnects), the ports are all reopened.

By default nothing of this sort is done. NetLock must be engaged manually or in full intent enabled upon connections.

> Ideally, I'd like to know if there's a setting in Windows to ensure AirVPN is gracefully shut down instead of just abruptly killing the process?

I remember something like that from the forums, but can't find that right now. Basically, it's Windows' behavior, and nothing you can do about it besides telling Windows not to reboot when it wants. This doesn't mean you can't have automatic updates anymore, though. You just need to make Windows stop the reboots.

One of the possible things you can do is use programs like W10Privacy and disable this behavior. I remember the option of doing so without disabling automatic updates. Check it out if you want.

That conclusion was made by TOPG himself, see also this exchange with Staff.

It's important to note that, although the table suggests objectivity and is a good starting point to compare a gazillion VPN providers as an overview, the rating of the individual points is still subjective and is fed more by what he feels is right rather than what actually is. Attempts at convincing him otherwise failed on the AirVPN forums, and Staff was not the only one discussing it with him. His biggest problem was the mere existence of the affiliate program, if I recall correctly.

Interesting side note: Since when does redirect to a "best VPN" review on ?

Depends on your definition of trustworthy. I can probably vouch for AirVPN a little, having been a subscriber for 8 years now. But I'm also using Mullvad in certain situations if I really have to. I tried IVPN in the past and thought they were okay but that was, well, 8 years ago. I don't know much about OVPN.

AirVPN's birthday is coming up in May.

There is a stickied post about sales on the forums. Be sure to go through it.

I'm a little torn about allowing people asking for promo codes. I'll tolerate it this time, will need to think about it later, though.

I'm not even sure it's advisable to the overwhelming majority to do multihop in the first place. If two multihop servers happen to be in the same datacenter (for example, most VPN providers offer M247 servers), where's the benefit? I'd like to advise against that and advise instead to keep to one provider. Keeps you sane and your bank account healthy.

Having wrote that, personally I've found Mullvad to be a better option than IVPN. The quick subscription process, a solid choice of datacenter providers and Wireguard support as the pros come to mind immediately when I think of it. I usually recommend that alongside AirVPN. But multihop is overkill, safe for very specific and dangerous situations.

> Almost every other reddit that has a product to sell you'll see a promo code post.

Sure, but this requires promotion codes to generally be available to the broad public like the ones you may have seen from NordVPN in every third Twitch or YouTube channel. As it happens, the only ones in existence are from those major sales, invalidated immediately after a sale, and from people asking support for a 100% discount on the three-day subscription (where I don't know if they can be shared just like that).

One can think about providing a batch of the latter to anyone reading the sub for example, just a little more or less innocent marketing to a very limited audience to make it possible for them to get to know AirVPN, but that's not up to me to decide or command.

> Hopefully the time stacks though....

It does, no worries. :)

I thought that it would be possible since AirVPN is arguably the most customizable VPN on the market. I see services like SmartDNSProxy unblocking streaming capabilitoes so that was my line of thought in regards to that. I agree that you can have high security and performance but then AirVPN doesn't support WireGuard. I used to be with TotGuard previously and when they added WireGuard support, my speeds went up by 40-50 %. I know that everyone's threat model is different along with what 'fast' means to them. But just speaking of AirVPN, is there any kind of setting config that can maximize speed & security?

AirVPN has port forwarding:

There are recurring subscriptions, but you can't pay monthly e.g. for a 3 year plan.

Before buying you can also get a free trial for 3 days. There are also pretty good sales throughout the year.

Protecting yourself online requires more competence than you have. AirVPN didn't fail you, you failed yourself. They provide a tunnel to keep you anonymous, and you chose to stick your head out the window and speed through a bunch of red light cameras.

Furthermore, you're using emails from your ISP as evidence of whether or not your VPN is working? That's about as effective as using pregnancy tests to see how your pull-out game is looking.

Good news is, the same problem is likely going to pop up with Nord and you're going to rack up too many strikes with your ISP so they're going to cut off your service and you won't have to worry about any more emails! So you have that to look forward to. ;)

I use ExpressVPN, and TorGuard, and AirVPN on my NAS for torrents/usenet. I always use before I start downloading, then I check occasionally to make sure everything is running fine. You really should seek support from AirVPN. They'll be able to diagnose any problems with you.

Yes, I finally did find that when I googled contact AirVPN, that info is not available on the 'Banned' notice page and since I was automatically logged in, everytime I went to their site to try and find the address I got locked out. They did resolve the problem, it was on their end, nothing to do with me

Ohh, my apologies, I completely misunderstood.

It’s been a few years since I’ve had to contact Air for assistance, but when I did they answered fairly quickly. Although who knows how they’ve been affected by COVID...

Definitely wouldn’t blame you for leaving if you can’t get any help!

I tried PIA for a while and it was pretty good and definitely cheaper, but I would get random slowdowns and some other little issues so I came back to AirVPN.

Tried couple of different severs, but still receive same warning. Tried to log in with different browser, just in case but nope - I am banned from AirVPN with no warnings or explanations. I can't contact anyone or cancel my subscription.

So yeah, I won't be re-subscribing

Try using a different server.

I believe the way AirVPN works with one shared internet-facing IP address per server, if another AirVPN user did something on a particular website that warranted a ban, all future AirVPN users using that server and connecting to that site will also be banned.

I really Appreciate your help. Learning quite a bit! Is there something you’re supposed to be looking for when choosing a specific server or is it just trial and error? I don’t necessarily understand the xxxxx/xxxxxxx numbers underneath each server. I do however, see the “recommended” list. And AirVPN apparently always defaulted to Canada, as I’m told that those are the best servers for US.

I think this is the last question lol.

Am I able to have downloads/uploads going while adjusting settings and config? Am I able to close qbitorrent completely and when I reopen, will they continue where they left off?

Openvpn will connect you to a private IP range. Your computer will then tunnel through that private IP and exit from the AirVPN server which will be your public IP.

Take note of your public IP with and without the openvpn connection. They should be different. Don't worry about the IP address that openvpn itself is reporting.

If AirVPN = Eddie, then you're correct.

If you've got openvpn connected to one of the airvpn configs, then all internet access on that computer will go through the VPN. So I take back what I said about pointing qbitorrent to the tap adapter. To confirm, just type my ip into a google search window and make sure that the reported public IP address is not "your" IP address.

So to confirm, (might be a stupid question) AirVPN isn’t connected, only openvpn shows connected correct?

Do ip config while connected to openvpn?

Network interface currently displays as

All Ethernet Openvpn tap Open vpn Wintun Loopback pseudo interface

I don't use the application that AirVPN provides and simply use their .ovpn profiles with openvpn gui. Their application may provide a failsafe that stops traffic if not connected to a VPN and the open source openvpn won't do that.

I would think a 4th gen i5 should have enough CPU power to handle the encryption, but I guess it also depends what else your computer is doing at the time.

What speeds are you getting when checking throughput at when not connected via AirVPN? Are the speeds close to what you're paying for?

Have you tried connecting to a different AirVPN server?

FWIW, I've got Windows 10 running in a VM with AirVPN and I'm getting 169 Mbps down and 156 Mbps up via a symmetrical gigabit connection. The speed varies depending on the server.

That account down there seems to produce some conflicting posts and comments.

You can always search a bit in the Other VPN competitors and features forum.

I'm not trolling, I've gone from supporter of AirVPN to anti. Clicking on your post was helpful, it brought up another Reddit account where I deleted positive comments I had written about Airvpn earlier. I don't expect to convert those that already drank the Koolaid, it is the undecideds I'm after now. Don't care about your lies.

Apologize for what? Buying their service? For them not replying to support ticket? Or for them blocking me from accessing my account, because they do not agree with my thoughts?

Instead, I spent 1 hour deleting/modifying positive review(s) I left for AirVPN, will spend 5 hours reinstalling Windows to get their client's claws out of my OS, and will spend time letting others know the REAL NATURE of AirVPN.

That is how I got things cleared up. I am happy now. :-)

See, you haven't given us any info to make us believe you. You just put out claims without any proof.

I'm not saying you're lying or anything. All I know is that I see critical messages on the forums from time to time and they get cleared up pretty quickly.

The Staff is generally very forgiving. Even insults usually don't result in a ban.

You can message the AirVPN support even if you're blocked or don't have an account.

Their E-Mail addresses are []() and []().

Explain them what happened, Apologize for whatever you've done, Ask for a second chance.

I hope you'll get this cleared up.

Unfortunately I don't know the iptables command well enough to help with debugging. I know enough to get around but I have to do a lot of internet searches for how-to's and syntax.

I also have a forwarded port from AirVPN but I'm using an ESXi VM as an outgoing gateway. I have an internal VLAN that points to it for its internet. Anything I want on the VPN I just put on the VLAN. My iptables rules are very simple since I forward everything:

-A FORWARD -i ens160 -o tun0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i tun0 -o ens160 -j ACCEPT iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o tun0 -j MASQUERADE iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 11874 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.12.3:11874

I'm not sure about the ACCEPT all - anywhere anywhere but I've got that too in the above VM and it's not something I explicitly added/changed. You might check all the rules before you make any changes so you can compare the before and after.

sudo iptables -t nat -L -n -v sudo iptables --list-rules sudo iptables --list

I had to revert the router back to pre-vpn settings to get my servers back up for now.

When I try again I will add those flags to the command. I'm guessing they'll be there. Assuming they will be, is there anything else that looks like the reason why the port would still not show as open using the AirVPN checker?

I thought Italy had more deaths by the COVID-19 then Sweden. The 14 eyes doesn’t really matter if a VPN doesn’t keep logs, but with the covid19, italy might force AirVPN to log to make sure no one is attacking small businesses.

Both Mullvad and AirVPN are extremely secure, but nothing is as secure as Ipvanish! Ipvanish is the most secure VPN provider but if your talking mullvad vs AirVPN, I would say Mullvad because AirVPN is based in Italy

For how long did you subscribe? What's your forums username? I can also look into the alleged mail block, so please also provide the mail address you are registered on AirVPN if that's what you used to register there. If not, the address you write from.

Thank you for helping resolve the issue.

I know you paid for AirVPN and intend to put that money to good use, but have you tried other methods like Tor or proxies? Can your mate maybe set up a temporary OpenVPN server for you to connect? Just to get out of the Great Firewall.

About AirVPN, I can only try to revoke the ban so you have access to the ticket system at least. I can also try to talk to Staff about a refund for example but don't get too excited because I don't think it likely. For how long did you subscribe?

I am honestly a bit confused now.

1. You are asking someone else on your behalf to contact AirVPN? And the replies are sent to your Gmail address, not to that someone? How do you reach this confidante of yours? If he/she is outside of China, how do you get connections out of China, then? If inside, how did this person break out of the firewall? One would at least think he/she would share the magic with you.
2. If you can't even load the server list, how come the VPN is dodgy and unstable? I'd imagine showing the list is a prerequisite for connecting. How did you manage to connect against the odds? And why is it that AirVPN supposedly works (over VPN) while POP/IMAP access to Gmail doesn't? Maybe I didn't get some of your points from the text.
3. You asked someone to check the AirVPN website, and it was unaccessible? I don't understand this part of your message.
4. The forums are moderated, as all are, but not heavily. Your account was simply put on the mod queue.
5. At some point you write that you did indeed get a solution (connect to HK instead of SG), which would prove Staff's point that you indeed got a solution. Was this something you got in a mail or a ticket?

So, can you please elaborate on the points? To summarize, I need answers to these questions to understand you fully:

1. Is it possible for you to connect now? I'd say yes, since you can use Reddit, but please do confirm.
2. Who is this someone who contacts AirVPN on your behalf and checks websites for you? Is he/she inside or outside China? User of AirVPN?
3. What is the current status of your access to AirVPN? Can you connect? Use the forums? View tickets? Read and write emails from and to ?

> airvpn is not so good i'd stay away from them they are forcing javascript to be enabled to even view their site now

It's done to implement a simple browser-based anti-DDoS feature since the website was battling with DDoS attacks for a week or so before its introduction. This "security check" is done once, then a cookie is set, similar to Cloudflare's anti-DDoS browser check.

> and if ya leave a forum post they disagree with they send ya a warning via email and turn your account page into a red banner so doesn't sound like a company that cares about freedom

The forums are a courtesy of Air's team to allow contact between the users for troubleshooting, tech support purposes regarding the AirVPN service or other related projects. They were never set up to allow uncensored criticism against anything posted and/or anyone posting there. Constructive criticism on the other hand is being posted quite a lot, and equally constructive counterarguments from Staff but also from other technical users, and sometimes less technical as well.

It should be common sense that AirVPN will not tolerate unobjective posts on their own forums which are prone to induce doubt and disbelief in other readers despite simple explanations being available. Users who post such content in a conspirative way to sow discord are taken down quite fast, but it usually happens after multiple warnings were spoken out.

I cannot follow the trail that led to your warning, seeing as we moderators have limited access to the profiles of other users (AirVPN respects privacy, after all). But your case seems similar to some others in the past where users didn't do their research well and went on panic-posting without a reason.

Edit: Seeing as you are spamming that post practically everywhere across reddit I will ban you from the subreddit. You deserved that warning, since you're doing a very similar thing with others like your credit card company, according to your post history.

I figured. :D Well, as Staff once said, "we are not adding new servers just to have one more flag". The choice for a server takes technical and legal factors into account. If a datacenter can't live up to these requirements, AirVPN won't add it.

If you want to play that game only, AirVPN would be far overkill. It suffices to rent your own small server in your target country and let a proxy run on it. That way, you won't get blocked, because you're the only user of that proxy.

AirVPN follows the principle of Net Neutrality. Technically, exchanging copyrighted files is allowed.

Throughout the forums you will find people who use a VPN connection exclusively for torrenting, and by torrenting they mean exchanging copyrighted files. There are also a few more or less official how-tos for configuring it while the rest of one's internet connection is going through the "naked" ISP line.

There is no discussion I'd remember right away, but there was one user who got caught torrenting and he asked for advice. Another one simply said "don't give in, they're all lying, they just want to make you pay" which is quite irresponsible when one doesn't know which laws are to be taken how seriously in which country (seeing as no one knew which country the caught one was in). There are a few with this opinion.

The board is currently being replaced with another software so searching the forums is not an option at the moment. I will link it as soon as it's available again.

Try the VPN-Client Eddie from AirVPN on your Desktop-Client instead running the Tunnel on your consumer grade Router, which should result in much higher speeds.
Even if the it has some ARM cores, using DD-WRT disables all offloading capabilities of this Router.
Switch to the Merlin Firmware which should be able to use all offloading capabilities, since the programmer works together with Asus and has the closed source libraries which are needed for offloading.

Im pretty sure that the Router is the limiting factor, since i never had problems with speeds, even beyond 400+ Mbits.
Mostly using Servers in the Netherlands and Swiss.

Thanks for your reply. Here is the output when I start Eddie from a terminal:

. 2019.02.05 00:38:14 - Eddie version: 2.17.2 / linux_x64, System: Linux, Name: Antergos Linux \r (\l), Version: Linux Area51-Alien 4.20.6-arch1-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 31 08:22:01 UTC 2019 x86_64 GNU/Linux, : 5.16.0 (makepkg/bb3ae37d71a Sat Dec 8 13:21:35 CET 2018); Framework: v4.0.30319 . 2019.02.05 00:38:14 - Reading options from . 2019.02.05 00:38:14 - Profile options not found, using defaults. . 2019.02.05 00:38:14 - Command line arguments (3): path="/root/.airvpn" path.resources="/usr/share/eddie-ui" ="/bin/eddie-ui" . 2019.02.05 00:38:14 - Profile path: . 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - OpenVPN Driver - Found, /dev/net/tun . 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - OpenVPN - Version: 2.4.6 - OpenSSL 1.1.1a 20 Nov 2018, LZO 2.10 (/bin/openvpn) . 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - SSH - Version: OpenSSH_7.9p1, OpenSSL 1.1.1a 20 Nov 2018 (/bin/ssh) W 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - SSL - Not available . 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - curl - Version: 7.63.0 (/bin/curl) . 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - Certification Authorities: I 2019.02.05 00:38:16 - Ready . 2019.02.05 00:38:17 - Collect information about AirVPN completed ! 2019.02.05 00:38:30 - Activation of Network Lock - Linux iptables I 2019.02.05 00:39:32 - Checking login ... ! 2019.02.05 00:39:33 - Logged in. I 2019.02.05 00:39:41 - Session starting. I 2019.02.05 00:39:41 - Checking authorization ...

I hope that's more helpful. In spite of the message about the SSL, Eddie seems to run normally and I haven't had any problems visible to me. I was mostly curious. Thanks for any insights about this.

Mudfish sounds like a very good portion of snake oil. Most optimization must take place on the client side, as people's setups on the AirVPN forums proof over and over.

And then this entry here in the Why Mudfish table:

> Passing game traffic only

It sounds like they actively look at your traffic to determine if it's gaming or not which, with AirVPN, is an absolute no-go. AirVPN is there to harden your anonymity via proxying and encryption.

I have the latest version of Eddie, but it doesn't disable IPv6 by default. I see what setting you're talking about now though. AirVPN>Preferences>Advanced>Microsoft Windows Only Section>Disable IPv6 at OS level if requested" is unchecked by default. I've posted in AirVPN's forums before, I'll go ahead and post this up as well. Thanks!

Glad you found a fix.

But, IPv6 should be disabled by the AirVPN software anyway. Make sure you have the latest AirVPN software and then check the settings for that.

Also, this might be appreciated on the AirVPN forums where there are a lot more people watching.

yes, the AirVPN software, Eddie, has a network lock to prevent anything outside the VPN tunnel. You have to enable it - it's not default.

Also, depending on how you have the app setup, it will reconnect to a different server if the current one drops.