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After some googling, it's called a liver hook.
I think you thread your bait (could be liver) on the part that you can "latch down" or however that works.
Everyone should just get a field guide.
That is a smallmouth bass. They are fun to catch because they fight hard and are as dumb as fish get.
I figured it was spooled too loose but didn't know that line thickness is a thing hah (true beginner here). Do you think I'll have to buy another brand of line? What do you recommend I buy and/or do here?
It's a Sougayilang reel with Stren monofilament. Fishing for eastern brook & rainbow trout out here in the American northeast.
EDIT: Oh, and thanks for the reply.
Try a finesse jig with a craw trailer. You can look up different types on YouTube. I use the Strike King Tour Grade Football Finesse Jig Bait https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043FRKXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_DZ32JEAX1S0AFV8E395W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 . You can put Strike King Rage Baby Craw Bait https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005Z7YF72/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_F1BX1MZDKSR29HYSVDVE as a trailer to. It doesn’t really matter if there are craw fish or not in this lake just cast it under cover like over hanging trees or that dock. This will catch small mouth and large mouth. And also if you don’t want to buy all this stuff that’s all good just go ahead and Texas rig a senko
I ended up returning mine. Although the reel felt nice and solid, the rod, both in length and material, felt too "clumsy" for my liking. My telescopic rod setup ended up being
- Kastking Compass, 6'6" medium, spinning (link)
- Pfleuger Trion, 30 size
If I were to do over, I'd start with Walmart's Ozark Trail reel instead (link). It's well priced and well made so abuse in both fresh and salt water can go guilt-free. Plus it's braid-ready.
I’ve seen filleting board for sale with either plastic or wood blocks, but you can buy the clamp separately and fit them to whatever you want. Wood probably provides a better grip but plastic is easier to clean.
I won one in a giveaway once. I’ll link the one I have at the end. For a telescoping rod it’s the one you’d want. The pros are; it’s telescoping lol, good quality rod and reel for price point, easy to put together, decent sensitivity for a telescoping. Cons are; it’s a telescoping lol, just the cons that follow those rods. But this one isn’t as bad as the others ones I’ve used before. It’s got decent sensitivity, fish are fun on it (caught up to a 4lb largemouth on it). I would recommend a hook and bobber setup, though. Especially if you’re fishing with someone who’s new to fishing. Also the handle is a bit short, and that’s not really my style since I’m mainly an inshore saltwater fisherman. Hope this helps
PLUSINNO Fishing Rod and Reel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CX74RG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I go for just the quick snap (no swivel).
There's ones that are "paperclip" shaped like this that are very low profile and very strong.
I have a tape measure like this one. Very compact, easy to use.
I recently got this one and have been happy with it so far. I don't know if it is "good" as I have never caught a fish before, but I like how it feels!
The key to consistently catching bass is to be able to predict where they will be in a given body of water. Lure/presentation selection is far less important as if a bass can't see or detect what you are throwing, you are never going to catch anything.
A ton of factors play into this, but there is a lot of info online. Generally speaking, you want to cast your lures at "something different". So like if there is a long run of open bank with a few laydown trees in the water, cast there. A large area of open water with a few clusters of pads or other vegetation, cast at the edges of that. If there is any kind of current, look for small spots that are protected from the current, but immediately next to it, so like behind rocks and or in current seams.
There are also seasonal variations, at the start of a year the bass "wake up" from their winter behaviour and move into the spawn cycle, then into their summer period, then a burst of feeding activity in the fall, and finally back into the slower, less aggressive winter pattern. This is temperature dependant, so different bodys of water in the same area can have bass at different periods of behaviour.
https://www.amazon.com/Fisherman-Critical-Concepts-Largemouth-Fundamentals/dp/189294734X
This book and the others in the series are more or less textbooks about bass behaviour and fishing. They are out of print and used copies can be expensive, but they a full of info and diagrams that really break it all down and will save you hundreds of hours sorting through conflicting advice online.
I broke one this weekend https://www.reddit.com/r/Fishing/comments/k85ib6/rod_good_boom/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf But I have to say it wasn’t the fishes fault, I loved the rod, landed a small catfish, bass and countless bluegill Action is medium, real is smooth, casting was not bad not as precise as a 2 piece but still ok. Could not get perfectly between branches as I could with other rods. But all of that pales when you take portability into account Just add small hooks, float, crappie nibbles and some trout magnets and you’re good to go
This is what I got a 6’8” kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087CWJM3P/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_tRNZFb04X4XKV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
There is a Dutch App called "Vissengids" which means fishing guide, that has a feature where you can take a picture of a fish and it will identify the species. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vissen Maybe this will help.
Having just started fishing recently, it's infuriating how disgusting the fisherman litter problem is. I'll find discarded line and bait containers along with pop cans and cigarette butts within 15 feet of a trash can. It can't be just a few bad apples--I see way too much of it. Clean up your trash, people! Take a bag with you for your stuff...or something like this from amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001IQ3VNS
Some can be found on Amazon. Like this one:All about Trout
But that is what all the books look like. The blue leather ish cover with gold or silver writing. They’re pretty nice books. Most do not have color photos but still really easy to read. They do have a few “advanced” style books usually titled “Mastering (species)” or something to that effect. If they’re just the “about” books, it’s more about the fish and behavior/habitat of the fish.
I really like Dexter knives for this. I have a few, but my most used is the 6" flexible knife. It's great for following the contours of a smaller fish and getting as much meat off as you can. https://www.amazon.com/Dexter-24583-SofGrip-Flexible-Equipment/dp/B01MTSOEUL/
I use a fishing rod holder, it's made of neoprene and comes with a little shoulder sling. Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09RVRWWWX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
And if travel is really an issue, upgrade to a true travel rod like an Ugly Stik 4pc or Daiwa Ardito 3pc model. OR even a telescopic rod.
I have two telescoping rods because I like to keep them in my car so I can fish wherever I happen to be. One of them is a cheap chinese spinning rod from a company called "Magreel". The rod feels ok, but it has no hook keeper, which I find annoying. The reel feels pretty bad and I replaced it with a Pflueger President. It's my normal "light lure" rod.
https://www.amazon.com/Magreel-Telescopic-Accessories-Saltwater-Freshwater/dp/B07Q4TFNM5
The other is a baitcasting rod from KastKing called the Compass. I use this rod very heavily and haven't had a problem yet. I throw pretty much all of my hardbaits, spinnerbaits, etc. on this thing. I will say that it is quite stiff, so it you don't get nearly as much action as advertised.
https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-Compass-Telescopic-Fishing-Casting/dp/B088R4FGZW
Just wear cloth gloves that can get wet. You want something that has rigidity to hold, but not too much to remove scales or slime coat. I suggest these cut proof gloves or just garden gloves.
I have the 7 foot one and I love it. I live in Montana and have a very healthy Troup population with some beefy fish and they a fun to fight on this thing. I bought a decent reel and put some 6lb crystal fire line on it. I use it for everything. Even pulling in a 2lb pike on the other day
Hi,
My advice.
- First decide what species you are chasing - predator or prey
- Check in with your local tackle shop for advice and, hopefully, a good deal. Some will offer second-hand equipment which is well worth considering
- If that doesn't work out, consider some of the deals on Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hunter-Pro-Carbon-X-Complete-Beginners/dp/B01CP2NC8C/ref=sr_1_16?crid=3NWR3AP4OKEPC&keywords=float+fishing+rod&qid=1663576105&sprefix=float+fishing+rod%2Caps%2C45&sr=8-16 (but best if you can handle the gear rather than mail order)
- Also re-post on r/fishingUK for better advice than I can give
Tight Lines!
Phil
Hi after doing some more thinking I decided to buy a 4000 sized Penn Fierce III Reel like yours instead. That is because I mostly intend to fish from piers and jetties anyways, and I prefer using a 7 ft rod since I feel 9 ft is a bit long for me as a beginner. If it's not too much trouble, would you mind sharing what line you are using? The store page on Dick's says that the 4000 sized reel can hold 270/8 220/10 165/12 yds/lbs of mono, and 360/15 260/20 185/30 yds/lbs of braid. I am currently trying to decide between 15 and 20 lb braid and am wondering how much of it to buy so your input would be very helpful. I wonder if it can hold 300 yds of .009 diameter braid. Thank you!
Probably something like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Berkley-PowerBait-Pre-Rigged-Swim-Shad/dp/B00EO97M0Y
You can also buy the swimbait and a jig head separately if you have brand preferences.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingswell-Fishing-Carbon-Telescopic-Spinning/dp/B08YNRD9YZ/ref=sr_1_3?gclid=Cj0KCQjwmdGYBhDRARIsABmSEeNuD8MAmvHrkTuqTCP3MIJWz5nvXqYnys1pFR94IS-Tv8UZ11fTRlQaAsYnEALw_wcB&hvadid=558591087062&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9015400&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15369064193074959517&hvtargid=kwd-1437514002414&hydadcr=9715_9896935&keywords=kingswell+telescopic+fishing+rod&qid=1662353243&sr=8-3
kingswell fishing telescopic rod. I've used it to catch 15 pound hybrid bass from a dam on the Ohio River very comfortably. Casts like a dream too!
Have a couple of these and have had zero problems with them
Looks like you are trying to set up a drop shot. I would use a number 1 drop shot hook for that. They are usually labeled as such at tackle stores https://www.amazon.ca/Gamakatsu-Drop-Shot-Split-Hook/dp/B06XJCBRPJ/ref=asc_df_B06XJCBRPJ/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459459490281&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3371697693599119438&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&h...
thanks I'll definitely check those out. I've ordered the whopper ploppers and they are actually arriving today! I tried using a frog bait but I got no bites.. besides the gator that took it.
I'm unsure on what bait to use, but I try to go for bait that would attract bass. Ive been looking into flukes, but it seems the only time I manage to get baits is when I have meat on the hook, or a yum dinger worm. But I rarely get bites with artificial bate.
Currently looking into https://www.amazon.com/Booyah-BYPM36-717-MagicSpinnerbait-16-Ounce-Robber/dp/B00631BGP8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 and trying to find some decent hooks.
The hooks are cheap offset circle hooks that I thought we just bent so I straightened them to remove the offset (and the barb). Didn't know offset hooks were a thing until just now haha. So effectively I was using inline single circle hooks I think. The following link is the exact set. Was using the smallest hook, though think the hook sized may be incorrect/non standard as in the hook I used might not actually have been a #2
Your budget is kind of rough, man...
This is the best I could find, but I'm not going to lie. The rod is a solid entry level rod, but the reel is going to be kind of janky compared to other stuff that's out there...
Out of those, I'd go with the Zebco 33. I would definitely recommend taking a look at the KastKing Brutus (https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07VQYV8TW), too, as I got one for my son's rod and I was pleasantly surprised by it.
Whatever stringer type you like. These are easy for adding fish, or just the basic nylon rope ones that come in every fishing kit. Carry your fish on a stringer with you, leave alive. You can tie on extra rope to toss the stringer into deeper water when you're in shallow areas on hot days. In cooler weather you can keep them alive for hours (or catfish will live for days) on a stringer. Kill them or whatever you normally do when you're done.
If they naturally die on the stringer they'll still be good for at least half an hour in the water. Personally I'd keep a cheap cooler full of ice in the vehicle and then as needed when they die walk back and put them on ice. For me it's easier to carry a stringer that I may or may not need depending if I keep fish, and then I'm only carrying the fish, instead of a RTIC bag full of ice. I imagine a cooler is easier to clean than a tote bag (haven't used one), so that's worth considering also.
I've never bothered to kill them, just straight in ice dead or alive. I've had fish in a cooler with ice (added as needed) for 2-3 days before filleting and they're still good.
I have multiples of these rods and reels. From a 7 foot ultralight I use for trout to collapsible I stash in my truck for emergency fishing adventures. They are super under rated and I absolutely love the shit out of them.
For just over $100, I would get both of these.
In general, it's kind of nice to be able to bank fish with two poles if you're allowed to. One in a holder with bait (usually a bobber and worm) and one you can actively fish throwing things like spinners or creature baits.
The reason I suggested specific poles for specific types of fish is because trout are generally caught on lighter tackle and line weight, whereas bass you usually want something stronger.
There is also a 4'8"ultralight combo from ugly stik, too. Of the ugly stiks I've had, the 4'8" is my favorite. I didn't recommend it because of it's short length. That works great when I'm on tiny streams, but shorter poles means less casting distance which can be limiting on a lake shore. If you think you'll have smaller bodies of water to fish for trout in (streams or small rivers) then the 4'8" pole could work as well.
I use large hooks since I bass fish and typically use my hand but I have a pair of decent plyers I bought off Amazon for those pesky hooks. I also have two sets of hook retrievers that go deep into the mouth of a fish for those people that gut hook or gill hook the fish.
Here is the kit I bought
You'll be hard pressed to find any bluegill big enough to eat a worm of thst size.
For bluegill, I like small jigs with a little piece of worm added on for scent, floating that under a bobber is a great way.
Here's my favorite lure for bluegill:
Despite the name is is very multi species. It was designed for trout but I've caught hundreds of panfish on this lure
For bass, it really depends. Sounds like a crankbait imitating a bluegill should be a good bet, but is there any chance you could describe what the lake is like in a little more detail?
https://youtu.be/sLsV-pd7tWA They also sell lure retrivers which essentially do the same thing. They have a secondary nylon rope which you send down with the weight and you use the rope to pull on the lure instead of the line.
Oh thats a Booyah Boo Jig f you have one with the 2 black rattlers. They may have changed a few models over the years, and my knowledge is limited. but Booyah is the only brand I have personally seen with those black rattle sticks. Im going to guess SOMEONE by now has made another version of that, but again, the only brand ive personally use those is Booyhah.
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The 3000 or 4000 series would be fine, both can use 30lb braid which should be fine for any striped bass unless you start pushing 60+ lbs'ers.
The Cadence and the KastKing ive seen on multiple sites for 2022 for best reels under 100 bucks,
I'm not quite sure how you're bending the tip. As long as all the guides are covered you're fine.
You can always make your own too. Get something like this and some heat shrink tubing. They can be any length you want!
Where are you (general location) and what kind of fish do you want to catch? That will help us narrow down what to tell you.
You said weights and hooks, for bass I would recommend a paddle tail swim bait, or some kind of creature / craw lure.
Honestly, if you're new, you don't want to spend a ton just to dip your toe in the water.
I suggest spending the extra $15, and get this:
The quality is a little better, and it's a great first surf rod. Just be sure to hose the rod and reel down with fresh water after every use if you want your surf rods to last. Also oil the reel once I'm a while. 😉
People will say not to use them but so far these have never really effected my catching ability. I get multiple fish literally everytime I go out for over an hour. I have 1 rod, im not going to carry around 2-3 rods anytime I want to go cast the pond for 45-60 mins, I sure as hell am not going to be tying on a new lure every 15 mins. I tied a palomar knot onto this clip on and just clip on any new bait or hook I want in about 10 seconds.
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A lot of fishing is just casts per hour. I have watched a lot of tournaments, those guys dont cast slow, they generally dont reel slow, hell half the time im like "jesus they sure cast and reel back in fast" , it comes down to...did you cast 100x in the hour you fished, or did you cast 300x?
For a truly tiny telescopic rod I love this one I bought for my son and I’ve even landed a 9lb drum on it. Oystern Kid’s Fishing Pole Kit with Spinning Reel - 62 Piece Tackle Bag, 4lb Test Line - Including Beginner’s Guide eBook - Toddler Fishing Pole Combo - Youth Telescopic Portable Rod https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0893F8288/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NFBD589HA7XP873KPPW1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Also I don’t ever go fishing without my handy dandy Klein electricians set. Stainless scissors and a knife with no point all on my belt Klein Tools 46039 Cable Splicer's Kit with Free-Fall Snip https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003AXBJMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QVBBW0DH8KJC85Z6CPW5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Z-MAN Trout Eye Jigs Tackle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018JYH1GY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_7FMC0AQ640322X3QFKJY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Haven't caught a fish on them yet, but they fit perfectly and swim really nice
Thanks for the advice. I'll probably aim for a weekday, I'll take a day off work and let him have a day off from school so hopefully the parks won't be as busy and we could get a decent spot.
This is the tackle box. Duuv 308/192PCS Fishing Accessories Kit,Fishing Tackle Kit with Tackle Box Including Jig Hooks,Bullet Weights,Sinker Slides,Bobbers,Freshwater Saltwater Fishing Set Tackle Box Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08RYGDZ7F/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_89HAYHAV8KMB7WJHTARM
This combo should work well assuming you don’t have to deal with any issues where you’re casting from beneath tree cover. Get a shorter rod if that’s the case. You can also go with Medium-Light instead of Medium if you prefer more of a fight. Fenwick HMX’s are on the delicate side though so if you prefer gear that can take some abuse then maybe go for an Ugly Stik GX2 or Ugly Stik Elite.
Fenwick HMX 7’ Medium Fast https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IDEN0EM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gl_i_3E6RMMJV05CJXAEW43JH?psc=1
Daiwa Legalis LT 2500 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VF83PMH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gl_i_70CQDW94TQPCA3R69V7K
You're already looking at the right books! I've read dozens (hundreds?) of fishing books, and none were more accessible or taught me more about the hobby than plain old "Fishing for Dummies."
Many others are superior from a literary or narrative perspective, but Fishing for Dummies covers all the basics in an easy-to-understand, non-judgmental way.
For fun yarns, I recommend The Big One (about the Martha's Vineyard striped bass derby) and Fishing Through the Apocalypse: An Angler's Adventures in the 21st Century. Also, PSA: Amazon says The Big One is $2 on Kindle right now. It's not usually that cheap!
As others have said, telescopic rods in general kinda suck, but they are pretty great for pick it up and go or stash it under the seat anglers. I have the Kastking Compass and use it just about every weekend with no complaints really. It's a little heavy so it wears on your wrist after a long day, but for quick trips it kicks ass.
I also have this Magreel Telescopic Spinning Rod/Reel Combo which is rad because it comes with a reel AND a carrying case, but I am skeptical every time I use it because it doesn't feel like it is made of very strong stuff.
>goture 4 piece from Amazon
is this it? https://www.amazon.com/Goture-Fly-Fishing-Rod-Freshwater/dp/B07RFMPL17/ref=asc_df_B07RFMPL17/ what weight should I be looking at?
You could try frogs or other top water creature baits if spinners aren't getting you anywhere. You could also put a a fly fishing fly on the end of your line with a bobber above it. I use this bobber on an ultralight pole with a fly on the end of my 4lbs line for fishing for trout in small streams. I don't know how well it will work on a pond since I use it in small moving water, but it might be worth a try.
Don’t know where you’re located but if Midwest or similar latitude then slow probably.
Wouldn’t hurt to get a thermometer of some kind assuming you’re bank or kayaking fishing without a fish finder.
I have this one for example.
fishpond Swift Current Thermometer Fahrenheit/Celsius https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BSFZTOS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_M9KYTZR08MQEPN37232T
>#8 circle hook
Thank You - this is exactly what I was looking for.
Does this look like the right hook?
What would you recommend for bait? I'm thinking minnows is my best bet to put the odds in my favor.
Got some cheap chinese water shoes on amazon, and honestly i was quite impressed. A lot more durable and thicker than the normal walmart ones. I often found myself running around work, my gravel driveway, to the store, and basically any time i was too lazy to wear socks i wore these. Lasted me about 10 months and never had any issues till they started to stink near the end of the year.
Zhuanglin Men's Quick Drying Aqua Water Shoes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KQTMJSB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DCD3WRK034EE9MNJ1KV5?psc=1
Small to medium Split Shot sinker, put it on the line about 10 inches above your hook.
It has far less chance of getting a snag than your hook will and gives enough weight for a good cast out to 20 yards or so without having to whip the pole so hard when you cast, that your bait comes off.
Zebco 33 = gold budget standard
Pleuger President Spincasting = solid mid range
Zebco Bullet = buy once/cry once
I use one of these and it works pretty well. They are all basically the same thing. The one you showed just has a reel holder while the one I linked requires you to provide your own.
Do you already have the reel? I looked that reel up, and it's not really an entry level reel. I'd personally pair it with a St. Croix or Duckett rod, about 7', med-heavy, and make a really sweet combo with it. For learning though, I personally think this combo is great for $90 (Black Max is great quality), but if you want something cheaper, Quantum makes some $50 combos.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08X18QXZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_V818SQVEFH4DGPFGVQF1
Hi,
Guess it's a case of you get what you pay for ... in terms of fishing reels at least.
I bought two Dr Fish Hercules bait feeder reels from Amazon a few seasons back for use in freshwater only (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dr-Fish-Hercules-II-Baitfeeder-Stainless-Responsive/dp/B01M593Y4W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=19FFO5UZAFFNN&keywords=dr+fish+hercules+fishing+reel&qid=1648834912&sprefix=dr+fish+hercules+fishing+reel%2Caps%2C44&sr=8-2).
I am fairly sure it said Made in China on the box. As cheap and cheerful offerings, I found them acceptable enough. My one gripe was that the drag could be a bit snatchy, but a drop of light oil seemed to alleviate the problem.
These days, I tend to prefer my old vintage Mitchell reels for bottom fishing, perhaps kidding myself that 'one day' I will dust off one of them and use with a second predator-fished rod. I like to know I have them in reserve, but since I have the use of my brother's perfectly adequate bait feeder reel, maybe I am just kidding myself ...
Phil
Field & Stream have a couple different books but I think this is a good read, both learning and entertaining!
The Total Fishing Manual (Revised Edition): 318 Essential Fishing Skills (Field & Stream) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1681881004/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TKNAHA7PPD4MGHKZ9HC2
I bought this kit of hooks off Amazon and I’m actually very impressed with their quality. You get 3/0 down to #2 and at first I though these sizes were too small they actually have great applications. The 3/0, 2/0, and 1/0 work great with finesse swim baits, weightless flukes, and finesse worms. The #1 and #2 are great for weedless drop shots
The jar of gulp will leak if tipped. I transfer the baits to a waterproof plano box Plano Small Waterproof Boxes Quantity of Three, 106100, Clear https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WTYYFG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_i_3FGRMEKJSDXRJ33P6MNK
You need a reel called a bait runner. It basically has two drag settings usually triggered with a lever. The first drag setting you set at extremely low. It will let line out freely with the bail closed. The second drag setting engages when you begin to reel the line in.
So I have one of these telescoping rods and it works great for me. Collapses down to about 18 inches or so. I know some folks don't like telescoping rods, but I really love mine.
Is he looking to go fresh water or salt water?
You could check out a charter. I don't know specifics from NYC, I'm in South Jersey, but I've used Ocean Explorer out of Belmar, NJ a few times and had a blast. They post trips at a discount on Groupon and have Rod/Reel rentals.
Thank you!
Are these good examples of what I'm looking for?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005N7FCRQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4SBHQNSDSB89RM8C9CCF
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y62SDLD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YFP142X2K2HR2M0STPB0
I tried flourocarbon for the first time last year. It did nothing but kink and twist up no matter what. After trying it I'd absolutely never again use it for a full spool. I'm 100% sure it's just a line type problem (and being a bit too big of line).
It should work great as a leader though. Really just like 3-4 ft is all. The main advantage of it is it's basically super invisible in water so fish don't see the line.
Flourocarbon line is expensive and yours is new, I'd just hand wrap it onto a paper towel cardboard tube or something similar to save and then use it for short leaders as needed. I'd try 6 lb mono something like this and then just like 6 ft of flouro for a lead to tie tackle to.
Some other things (with my limited knowledge of trout fishing):
I routinely use 1/32 or 1/48th oz (weight) jig heads. Trout fishing is often smaller than that, but I wouldn't even use those for a 3 inch grub. You want your hook size to match your bait. Too small of a hook and fish will just bit the bait and rarely actually eat part of the hook. If the hook is too large, well it just looks like a hook.
Even with that large grub you still don't have enough weight to cast 8 lb flouro line well. For small tackle you need like 4 lb mono line or 10 lb braid to cast well.
Never heard of people using plastic grubs to trout fish, I assume it was just something you got in a kit or something. Look up some common rigs and baits for trout.
Good answers below on not using it. I try to limit the new gear buying also (somewhat unsuccessfully I admit) but given the issues you'd face if use it in saltwater; I'd suggest an open face/spinning reel. Easy to cast from the surf, easy to rinse off after the day when you rinse the rod too (do this every day when leave the water, or the rod/reel will rust and start to corrode and not work properly). For all around 2-dropper bottom fishing in the surf, on the cheaper side (~ $50) I'd get a basic catfish spinning reel combo like this, and if wanted to invest a bit more, something like this. Use like 12lb test and can fish for small stuff (pompano, sea-mullet etc) or up to puppy drum. If you'd rather walk the beach and cast jigs, think about a lighter setup. Good luck.
ugly stik for life! put whatever reel you want on it man, you can catch fish with stuff like this so don't let anyone shame you for not going with Shimano Chronarch when your wallet says Pflueger Presidential. the biggest trout my brother ever caught was on a $25 shakespear 4' rod & reel combo from sportsmans so honestly just make sure you have beers and cheers.
Since you stated bass in a pond…
This is the first combo I picked up. Not exactly expensive, but it’s served me well fishing for bass. It’s smooth and easy to handle. Plus it’s all matching brand rod/reel so they work well together.
Fuck everyone trying to get you suckered into spending hundreds or thousands of dollars into lures and the latest fad bullshit.
All you need is a means to catch live bait, such as a cast net or minnow trap, and a cheap rod/reel combo with a few terminal tackle pieces like hooks, line, and bobbers. Buy $1 bags of cat food from Dollar General and sprinkle a little in y our minnow trap. Throw it into a couple feet of water, preferably in an area where you have seen activity of small baitfish/fry/minnows. Wouldn't hurt to buy a small net for catching frogs and craws as well.
Make your own minnow trap (google provides good tuts) or buy one here.
You can literally spend less than $100 and have enough gear to catch plenty of good fish.
- you could catch most lake fish with that, but you need to set your drag correctly. Catfish fight pretty decent if they're bigger, so a small bass wouldn't be too far off.
- Texas rig is good, I have better luck w/ Ned Rigs plus they're easy to set up. I like the Zman EWG Ned rig so I can rig it weedless but they're all good, most of the time I just use the Shroomz. My most common rig is a Shroomz head and one of these guys and I almost always catch something (bass, trout, bluegill, even crappie): https://www.amazon.com/Z-MAN-TicklerZ-inch-Bait-Pack/dp/B07VYZZXT2
- Green pumpkin for soft plastics is always a go to for me, regardless of water type. You can follow peoples guide/advice, but honestly just try a few different colors and see what works in your area.
- Unless its a specific type of rig that requires it, no. Closest I'd say is a bullet weight on a Texas rig or something. Lures 99% of the time, no. Generally either it's a jighead of some kind that provides the weight, or the body of the lure that provides sinking action. Similarly with floats, unless you're using a live worm or trout/pan fishing or something it's a no. If it's meant to float, it'll float.
To start off my brother gave me all the lures and bait as to help me out since he has a ton. I’m still researching what is best for each type of fish and what I will mainly be fishing for. So far I have some fish able canals in AZ that mainly have trout but will venture to some park lakes for other fish as I learn.
The pole is an Ugly Stick GX2 rod/reel combo. I know it’s not the best but I was told it will definitely get the job done to start. I bought a 12lb mono line for it.
The orange box is from Amazon. Only know what half the items are at the moment but here is the link. TOPFORT 187/230pcs Fishing Accessories Kit, Including Jig Hooks, Bullet Bass Casting Sinker Weights, Fishing Swivels Snaps, Sinker Slides, Fishing Set with Tackle Box… https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZB43152/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_AQB1Y0MADGFZNSV0EBA0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Other than this I will be getting a measuring tape and scale so I can track what I’m catching. I’ll still be looking through all the beginner resources on this sub but wanted to show off my new addiction either way and get some personal insight.
I bought the rod but want a 5500 Penn reel. The one you suggested isn't currently in stock, can you help me decide between these two? (wait for the slammer to be in stock or buy this other guy?)
Hi Everyone,
I have braid as my main line and use these double-ended connectors for almost everything:
I tie a strong loop in my braid main line which I test before use and which lasts one season or more. My various sinker rigs are made from braid also with quick-change mini swivels for the mono hook links. Each rig has one of these connectors which I fit to the loop in the main line.
Even when I am bobber fishing, I use the connector to make the link between the braid and mono leader, being careful to put the split shot on the leader side so as not to fray the braid.
I even used them to connect the line on my chumming rod to the bait bomb. I imagine you could use them to connect to any leader fitted to a crankbait or whatever.
They won't have the untwisting ability of a barrel swivel, but they shouldn't damage your top ring either should you accidentally wind too far. Unlike a snap swivel which needs to be snipped off if you want to disassemble your rod, your main line loop can be wound straight back onto your reel. When you want to fish, thread the main line through the rings, fit a connector to the loop, and connect it to the leader loop of your chosen lure.
No need to tie any knots because you have already tied them!
Phil
I recently got this backpack and like it a lot. Fits all my hard plastics and tackle boxes in the main pouch and all of my soft plastics in the front one. I also have two telescoping rods, which I can stick in each of the diagonal pockets on the very front. I keep my two rods, all of my tackle, a towel, and my multitool/nail clippers in the backpack, which I keep in my car, so I am always ready to fish at a moment's notice.
Honestly, any rod works fine. Since you're a beginner, I'd recommend a spin caster as they're ideal for amateurs. Since you're a beginner, try a light rod for smaller fish, as they can feel bites more easily
As for your knot, here's what to do:
- Move the string or line into the little hole at the top of your hook
- When you're done with that, take the line and make a loop
- Hold the line that flows into the hole in the hook together
- Spin the hook about 10 times
- Take the remainder, and put in in a hole near the hook
- Pull the line tight
I like this knot personally. I don't know what it is called, but it has never failed me so far
For now, try using worms, though not the 4 inch worms, because you'll catch big fish with those, and your rod, depending on what you pick. For a light rod, use 2 inch worms (tackle or bait doesn't matter), bread, corn, grubs (real or fake), and I like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010FFKXG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=0922663799ee4ec1350ef5dd5e83ce9e&hsa_cr_id=6401114720301&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=514c83fe-865d-40a3-b34c-895927fe2bfb&pd_rd_w=h8SSD&pd_rd_wg=D5nMs&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_title
as it works really well on fish besides trout. Those worms catch sunnies and bass really well.
To tie a plastic worm, do the following:
Chatterbait flashback. Ditch the minnow it comes with and put a 2inch swimbait on there. It will slay, this is my secret weapon on an ultralight rig for small streams and rivers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ISQYIS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_6YTDKT5ZCSEPA7Q3YV4K
https://www.keitechusa.com/keitech-swimbaits/keitech-swing-impact/keitech-swing-impact-2/
I use the Carlisle slip Bobbers. I learned to tie the stopper (it really is just a Uni knot) so I do not have to redo the whole rig every time it frays and no longer holds.
I also sometimes add a bit of weight to the bottom of the bobber to make it "weighted bobber".
If you have a chance at pike I would 100% recommend using a steel leader. Their teeth will cut 40 pound braid like its nothing. If you have decent depth where you fish I've had luck with something like this. I'm not sure of the size compared to what I had.
I'm up in MN and have been having fairly good luck with a whopper plopper recently, mostly trying for bass but also getting decent pike.
I have this in 4wt and I love it
KastKing Emergence Fly Fishing Combo - 4 Piece Graphite Fly Fishing Rod , Pre-Loaded Aluminum Fly Fishing Reel, Accessories and 12 Popular Flies - with a Protective Travel Case - Super Value! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0793RPLN4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WM5NKE2MDHEPEMP3Y1Z4
Hi Buurtjee, I am sure someone will mention it sooner or later - SPOMB - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spomb-MINI-WHITE/dp/B0073RTCMA/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=SPOMB&qid=1630947207&sr=8-6
I use mind for bream fishing. They come in differing sizes from mini which you can cast out with a heavy feeder rod, to medium which you can cast out with a 3 lb t/c rod, to large which requires a spod rod in the 5 lb t/c range. So, as you can see, it's not just about the cost of the spomb ...
I use soaked maize flake with sweetcorn and casters in mine and it works great.
Hope this helps.
Phil
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000LPOUNW?sa-no-redirect=1
I had one of those, but then started using a $5 kids rod from Walmart with the mouse thing. They sell just the mouse as a refill too. I tie an egg in-line right above the swivel clip for weight. I'm not sure I'd trust my cats to munch on a clipped hook.
You can get this to replace the handle makes the reel a lot more comfy https://www.amazon.com/Reel-Replacement-Metal-Power-Handle/dp/B073VM8YM4/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=2H0T2PGQP8OFB&dchild=1&keywords=fishing%2Breel%2Bhandle%2Breplacement&qid=1630208693&sprefix=foshing%2Breel&sr=8-7&th=1&psc=1
Not bad but could be better. As others said, main downfall is the weight jig in the middle. Hook without a weight is better so they don't just end up next to each other. There are also floating jig heads.
A hook inline instead of the three would be one option.
Could also do a drop shot with two hooks at different lengths from the terminal weight.
There are also things like this: Senyu Fishing Hook Snelled Stainless Steel Wire Leader Fishing Rigs Hooks https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085VJ1Y4T/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_N5CEF0VHE29EKFN51HZF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
As you can see, many options. Try stuff and pick.your favorite. Start with rigs you can make with what you have to keep it cheap.
The whole idea is giving food at different depths to help find them. Remember crappie would rather go up to food than down.
That one in particular looks like it could go either way. I have gotten a lot of use out of this one so far:
And if you want to pick up a couple of the other fancy lures like the frogs or crankbaits I would get those separate. The spinner baits can usually be found pretty inexpensive separately as well.
Eagle claw is a pretty decent hook brand, I've seen they have some starter kits as well. You could get a pack or two of similar plastic worms like the ones in the kit you linked for a decent price to go with it. The Yum brand is one I go to a lot.
Shimano Sienna combo. Amazingly good starter rod/reel. I’m a new fisherman too and can actually call myself a catcherman as well! SHIMANO Sienna Spinning Combo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086MVVSQB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y545KEDZRD8MPZ93M261 Way under your budget and gives you tons of room in budget for your terminal tackle: 15-20lb monofilament line, some 3/0 EWG hooks (I like the mustag weighted ones so I don’t have to mess with a bullet weight), and some plastics (I.e. Yamamoto Senko worms - I prefer green pumpkin or darker for no so clear water, maybe a pack of zoom trench hogs in Africa Special color, and a creature bait like a bug or craw. The options are damned near endless and to be honest my first set of tackle and lures I just got me a Monster Bass box and a Mystery Tackle Box. Both of those gave me enough to decorate a few trees with and I couldn’t have been happier to try my hand at fishing. All of that comes in under your budget and gets your line wet.
Yep - you're going to want to look for a "spinning" style rod/reel combo. Ugly stik is a good option, or something like this (cheaper) https://www.amazon.com/Lews-Fishing-Hypersonic-Speed-Spinning/dp/B07KQPYN34/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=spinning+combo&qid=1628787158&refinements=p_36%3A1253556011&rnid=386589011&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-7
Sorry, didn't know you needed the whole set up.
If you're fine with spincast (I'm partial to zebco's):
Zebco 33 Platinum Spincast Reel and Fishing Rod Combo, 6-Foot 2-Piece IM6 Graphite Rod with Comfortable EVA Handle, Instant Anti-Reverse Reel with All-Metal Body and Gears, Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089HBN64S/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_ACPJV792114T02VFB3Y7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Spincast:
Shakespeare Ussptrvl664M/30Kit Ugly Stick Gx2 Travel Spinning Rod & Reel Combo (4 Piece), Medium/ 6'6" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076619DLV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_XKQYCE7BS5H2AZRMXEAM
Don't know your budget, but you can never go wrong with an Ugly Stik gx2
This is a solid rod too on a budget.
Zebco Rhino Tough Glowtip Spinning Fishing Rod, Foot Rod with Heavy Duty Guides, Medium-Light Power Fast Action, EVA Foam Handle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0771DK17N/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_BJXY93R8R9JSC9VBMK5Z?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks! Any suggestions for the reel?
The recommended purchase on Amazon is this one
Despite the excellent answers your getting... there are to many small differences to try to explain. Just get a field guide. Faster and more reliable than reddit.
I got this Magreel kit from amazon and I have been super happy with it. I also like that it comes with a reel and it seems (at least to a beginner like me) that it is a pretty good reel at that.
For Seabass I would recommend something that imitates a sandeel. These for example.
For Mackerel anything shiny will do honestly. Something like this.
Gotcha, I mean you will probably be fine to use it. I would be a little careful as that is a big umbrella rig, I’m guessing it’s going to be well over an ounce with all of the soft plastics. I will say worst case scenario with a rig that large you could snap your rod. For a rig that large I throw it on a heavy action 7’ 6” rod with 65lb braided line.
For the rod you have I would use a smaller umbrella rig like this Live Target Bait Ball
I can't say anything about the Savage Gear lure, but I can tell you what my go-to is for thick weeds.
The lake I normally go to is so thick in spots you CANNOT use anything with exposed hooks.
The best thing I've found is paddle tail swim baits with some weedless form of a hook. I prefer an underspin or weighted swimbait hook, but If you have any extra wide gap hooks they work too, you can try weightless or use some weighted.
I'm a big fan of strike king rage swimmers, in the different sizes they can catch almost any size fish, from big Northern Pike and bass to Crappie and blue gill.
Since I don't know where you are, I'd say Amazon, but you can find it in many tackle shops and sporting goods stores. I linked it for you on Amazon. I personally prefer the orange one, but you can find it in a bunch of colors.
A medium-light Berkeley lightning rod and a Pflueger Trion reel would be a pretty good rod/reel that you could get for about $80.
If you're traveling in a car a 2 piece rod will make transportation a lot easier, but most people will recommend a 1 piece for better sensitivity.
The St. Croix rods that others have recommended are going to be nicer, but if you want to save a little money a Lightning Rod is still a good rod.
You can get a good deal on the Pflueger reels from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WW99G3P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_0GSBQYZ27C595KXFBJM8?psc=1
It's best to buy a rod in person, but if you can't I'd probably recommend buying from a dedicated fishing store instead of Amazon. You want to make sure it's going to be packaged well.