I've been using <strong>this mattress protector</strong> for the last few months, and it feels nice and cool. Goes on like a fitted sheet and stays on. At a cost of around $22, it's a no-brainer.
I find this fitted sheet to be even more luxurious than the fancier purple sheets. Definitely pair with a traditional top sheet. Stretchy top sheet is miserable.
Just so you know, adjustable bed bases are basically all made by 2 manufacturers rebranded so just pick the cheapest one. For example at $650, https://www.smile.amazon.com/Best-Choice-Products-Adjustable-Management/dp/B08BJFJ74R/.
You're probably not going to find an individually wrapped coil in that price range. The cheapest Sealy showing individual coils (they used to call it the Apex coil... before that it was a DSi coil) at Costco is the Newfield which is $489 for just the mattress.
Usually words like "classic" and "continuous" are bad signs for finding individually wrapped or pocketed coils. If you don't need a box, or if you can afford a little over $400, your best bet is something like this: a Simmons Plush for $449 mattress only. It has pocketed coils and will have a lot more pressure relief.
If you take that add to a Mattress Firm or a Sleepy's you can probably get them to match their version and beat that price by at least 10%, which would get it closer to $400.
All of this is really just guesswork though. You need to go to a store and try the beds to see what feels most comfortable for you. Just because something uses better technology doesn't guarantee that it's the feel you want or that it's going to align you the way you need.
I totally understand that. Mattress Salespeople often have a hard time finding the right balance between hands-on and hands-off for each given customer. Mattress Firm does have a price guarantee policy where they'll beat a competitor's bed by 10% and they usually do a pretty good job of sticking to that.
With Sealys, your best option at Costco right now (if you want a true pillowtop feel) is the Pritchard and it's a heck of a deal at $949 for the CalKing set (until 5/31/15). I believe this is because they're closing that line out.
Mattress Firm already has the new line, which will make it a lot more difficult to get them to match it. The new line has a different coil system in it (same style, just an update, which Sealy likes to do to differentiate between lines.) I think this is one you could try to get them to match to that old Costco bed to earn the sale. That would get you the new one at $949-10%= $854.10. That's a phenomenal deal. Whether or not that's worth dealing with a salesperson is up to you.
If you do decide to go back into a store, let me know and I'll be glad to walk you through what exactly you need to say to best increase your odds of them accepting the match. If you want to go to Costco, that's fine too. If you want us to recommend some other brands, we can do that as well. Just let me know!
I also have had the 4lb memory from from MT on order for 5 weeks now and it still hasn’t shipped. I ended up getting some of this and it’s good quality, 3.5lb. Can’t compare until the 4lb arrives but I can recommend it:
ViscoSoft 3 Inch Memory Foam... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VYV3T61?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If I had to pick between the two I would pick the Linenspa and then put a 2” memory foam topper on it - which you should factor into the budget because I think it’s unlikely to be comfortable without it.
I think you can do better on price and do it fiberglass free by using 6” of this foam as the base layer (instead of either of these mattresses) and putting a 2” topper on it. — all that would cost you less than $200.
It’ll be more similar in feel to the Zinus but won’t user fiberglass and will likely be a bit softer.
Seems silly compared to an actual 8 sleep lol but...My wife and I used one of these for a long time. Worked well for us because she likes sleeping in a furnace and I don't lol. I wish it would make the mattress COLDER though...Doesn't solve for that problem.
We tried these "bamboo" sheets out after trying multiple different types of sheets (cotton linen, percale, etc.) and they by far are the softest and smooth feeling sheets we have tried. We use them in all our bedrooms. My wife and I love them, they sleep "cool" and are very smooth w/ zero pilling.
On the mattress front you could do a split king (twin XL's) if you have different comfort/support needs, more than a few people have gone that route instead of "compromising" on a mattress.
Thanks! It's on this slatted wooden frame (2.8" between slats).
Get 5" of this, put it under 2" of this. For a Twin size that'll cost you just $105. It'll be better than the carpet. And there's no fiberglass.
Here or here.
I was having this problem, I ordered a super cheap bed in a box as a last resort on Amazon and I’ve been super happy. Traded in my $4000 dollar mattress for this 400$ one.
Modway AMZ-5771-WHI Jenna 10” King Innerspring Mattress - Top Quality Quilted Pillow Top - Individually Encased Pocket Coils - 10-Year Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078KD3TVF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6VJRTCZ740VEWC00X91G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This bed surprisingly has a lot of support. Eventually I may get a mattress topper but have no plans to at the moment.
I did end up buying this mattress for my brother, kids and mother as well. It’s a one size fits all standard bed. No bells and whistles or silly advertising, it just works.
If I didn’t order this bed I probably would have gotten a mattress from Charles P. Rogers.
It depends how it's done. The two main ways are people will get two twinXL sized mattresses and then get a bed bridge sort of thing.
The other way it's done is with zippered mattress covers. Some companies do their mattresses where instead of sewing it up they zip it up -- which allows the user to take out and remove layers. So you could have a king size cover in which you put different TwinXL layers on each side. You could even theoretically have the top layer be a king size layer that would go all the way across.
Mattress research does suck. The aurora is a good bed though, so if that is where you land I don't think it's a bad thing. But you should take pictures of each other's spinal alignments to check before deciding to keep it.
Depends by what you mean by "without a frame." Do you mean put it on the floor? You can do that. Some people have concerns about mold growth due to lack of ventilation. If that's a concern to you, you can just put it onto a very simple foundation and put that on the floor. I do think Tempurpedic has super specific requirements for what it's supposed to be on to qualify for the warranty though.
We bought purple sheets initially and were surprised at how thin and insubstantial they are. They are stretchy and work well for motion transfer, but they are our "last resort" sheets now. Instead, we have 2 sets of Amazon basics jersey knit sheets that work excellently and cost less than half of what we paid for the purple ones. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01BTBROXY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_YM2A3CHVCGPYAECABR3N?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Do you know anything about this one: https://www.amazon.com/MAXXPRIME-Adjustable-Electric-Nightlight-Bluetooth/dp/B08LKP5JF9/ref=pd_ybh_a_5?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=DBXB6J654E61K0GTCBK4&th=1 or have any thoughts regarding it?
Can't quite tell from the picture how high or low the headboard is.
If the the bunkie board is too low -- you could buy a low-profile foundation. Something like this is 4" high.
Oh yes, 4 slats definitely won't work to support a bed.
But you don't need the tall box spring either. You might just want to get a bunkie board -- something like this should work just fine. And then your bed will only be about 20" off the ground which is generally more desirable.
Given that you're going to be upgrading in just a year - it means you have the luxury of not having to worry about longevity. I think the mattress + topper route is probably ideal.
Get a cheap mattress like this and then "splurge" for a nice latex topper like this.
The mattress won't be worth keeping after a year -- but if you decide to stick with full size for your next mattress, you could definitely find a way to incorporate a topper like that. It's latex so it will last awhile and it won't sleep hot like memory foam.
I personally like those bamboo cover shredded memory foam pillows you can find on Amazon.
Generally you'd want if you're a back sleeper a medium loft pillow, side sleeper a high loft pillow and a stomach sleeper a low loft
We got this:
Zinus Annemarie Solid Wood Bed Support Slats
It does the job. I know crate and barrel has a nice one but pricey.
Would say, on that budget, the Zinus 12" Memory Foam mattress may be a really good deal. Sale for $189 (~$100 off):
Not durable, probably won't hold up past your graduation. Might not even last that long without forming indentations (cheap memory foam and poly foam).
But, based on construction / reviews, I imagine it would be decently comfortable for a back/side sleeper.
Here are the problems:
There's another brand on Amazon, Lucid, which is a bit cheaper (normally, I think the sale price makes up the difference). Would avoid. They're both low-end, but Zinus seems the least bad of the bargain-basement stuff I've seen from Amazon.
Feel free to follow-up if you have any specific questions.
I have used the Tempurpedic warranty twice now (once 8 years ago and once this week!). The first 8 years we didn't put a mattress cover on it. I, like you, thought that the salesman was trying to sell me this $100 bed cover as an extra. Well, when it started sagging after 8 years, there were stains on the bed. I strategically took pictures of the bed with the sag so the stains were not obvious and they replaced my mattress.. When the guys came to take the old mattress and give me the new one, they literally threw my old one on my front lawn, and it was wet outside, while putting the new one in.. so then it had grass stains (the delivery men didnt care about stains on the bed).
The one I got with warranty , i bought this mattress cover on amazon for $30something
And sure enough, after 2 years of my new mattress, it started sagging in a different spot, and when i took the cover off to take pictures, it looked brand new underneath. I recommend mattress covers just so you don't get nervous if/when you have to do a warranty return.
I've had no luck with mattresses over the years. I have no expectation that any of them are a long term solution. They all suck. So, I'd recommend buying something cheap every two years rather than gambling on an expensive one.
For instance I bought this in Nov 2018 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HNT8KG2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and its junk now and has been for several months. So, in essence I got a good year out of it for $138.
Instead of a King we use two Twin XLs. Seems to make sense to me that the edge support at the center of the bed is better than with a King. Also allows my wife to choose different firmness.
Wife 5'4 180lbs.
Myself 6'1 280 lbs.
Hard to say for sure, but we start on our sides and would guess 60% side/40% back.
The mattress was this one
Didn't even realize it had a reusable cover until we were getting ready to throw it out.
Thanks - I've read a bunch of your posts and appreciate the knowledge you share here.
I got this one for $20 on Amazon and I'm happy with it. My Purple mattress needs a protector with a little stretch, which is why I picked this one. Otherwise, I usually only get 6 sided zippered covers, which I find offers much better protection.
What's your height and weight?
It sounds like you may need some sort of "zoning" set-up in your mattress where the area by the hips is firmer than the area by the shoulders.
If you really want to make the Purple work you could try using like a lumbar support pillow -- but if that doesn't work the Purple might not be right for you.
> So I grab that foam you linked, toss a bedsheet on it and i'll be good to go?
Pretty much! I wouldn't suggest doing that for a mattress you hope to keep for a long time -- as in that case it would be ideal to have a zippered cover to protect the foam for dust, sunlight, sweat, grime, etc.
I do think you would probably want to put some sort of plush mattress pad (different than a topper) on it in order to give you some surface level firmness. Something like this.
As for the topper (meaning a block of foam, not just a pad) --- you could get something off of Amazon. The point of this layer is to just add a little bit of pressure relief -- so you could add like 2" of memory foam (I wouldn't use more than that -- 1.5" might be ideal) or another soft topper off amazon. Long term I think latex would be better for you for a variety of reasons - but I think in the short term a little bit of memory foam could work. Maybe something like this.
Surface plushness is good -- you just want the main thing your body will be interacting with to be firm enough to prevent your hips from plunging into the bed.
Here's one option... the parent company is FXI/Innocor a maker of the foams used in the bedding industry. They also make the Novaform beds that Costo sells. It's hard to tell what the foam densities are because they won't tell you, but most of the other options in that price range are imported chinese beds...
This one from Zinus should fit the bill. It also comes in different heights. I think the fabric is to make it look more like a traditional boxspring and provide a bit of friction to keep the mattress from sliding off.
Ah yeah, that’s a thin mattress.
You could buy something like this and screw it on to your bed instead of the provided legs — although note that a bed needs 5 legs and not just 4.
I have the same issue. I have a herniated disc in my c4 and protrusions c2-c5. This is the pillow I use. I make sure to adjust and find a proper pillow height. The height is crucial in keeping your cervical spine in a neutral position when you sleep. YMMV, good luck.
Limited-time deal: Elviros Cervical Memory Foam Pillow, Contour Pillows for Neck and Shoulder Pain, Ergonomic Orthopedic Sleeping Neck Contoured Support Pillow for Side Sleepers, Back and Stomach Sleepers (Blue) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088WNMNX1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_dl_3RDR663BA40ZMVW79924?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I ordered this one since I'm in Canada, I don't really know about quality when it comes to these things, figured I'd get something reasonable to try it out:
My mattress is the Simmons Beautyrest Imperial Collection:
It's very firm. It's in good shape, a couple of years old. I'm 6'0 and I weigh 190lbs.
If you have Amazon prime account you can order this watch and return afterwards.
This will lyk if your sp02 is dipping below 90 during sleep .. if it is then your body will increase your heart rate from adrenaline and make you wake up.. The watch will also show you your heart rate.
If you are not completing sleep cycles at least four or five of them a night then I will make you feel really fucked up
I had no idea I had undiagnosed sleep apnea most of my life until I got my total testosterone levels tested and at 178 as well as my LH and FSH were almost at zero.. we only make a testosterone naturally when we're sleeping properly and completing sleep cycles and I wasn't doing it.
After I got on my APAP machine I was able to sleep throughout the night and started waking up with nocturnal wood something I haven't had most of my adult life.
My blood pressure instantly went to normal.
Another thing you can try to help you sleep deeper is 200 mg of magnesium glycinate before bed about 1 hour.. another thing you can try with it is eating two kiwi fruit.
Also look up to make sure you're getting enough l-tryptophan. It's an essential amino acid and if you're not eating enough of it and your diet you will not be making proper serotonin levels that in turn get converted to melatonin during your sleep.
I use the magnesium and the kiwi fruit and it gets rid of my 3:00 a.m. sleep maintenance insomnia issues after I quit marijuana
I know a few people who use the tryptophan and it fixed a lot of their problems.
I think I'm allergic to reviewing a product based on Amazon reviews. I assume all positive reviews are fake/bots. And I assume every negative review is ultimately an outlier because people tend to write negative reviews far more than positive ones (because they're pissed).
This one isn't wood, but the slats are 2.9" apart and seems to have fine reviews overall. This one is both wood and metal and also seems to have fine reviews.
I have a bed frame that was inexpensive and pretty nice, but the slats were really weak. I replaced them with these custom pine slats from Amazon:
They are really high quality, affordable, and arrived in a week and a half.
got any recommendations for a modern foundation? I saw the the_leviathan recommend this one a while back.
This one. I was in dire need of a mattress and this seemed to be an okay price for temporary bedding.
For instance, tell me if you can spot a meaningful difference between the #1 result on Amazon for "wooden box spring" and the #1 result on Amazon for "wooden platform bed."
I tend to think of wooden bed frames as platform beds as the same thing. When I think of a bed frame that is designed for a box spring, I tend to think of a metal one like this.
For what it's worth there isn't that much of a difference these days between a platform bed and a box spring. Back in the old days a box spring literally meant a sturdy box with springs in it. These days it's just a box with wooden (or metal) slats -- in other words its the same thing as a platform bed but with a different shape.
We have had amazing results with these bamboo ones which someone else on this sub shared
And these tencel ones
Both are extremely soft and sleep really cool. They are both game changing for us.
You could even go cheaper with the memory foam if you wanted.
I think the build I suggested in that thread could work well for you.
The only change I might make is because you sleep much more on your side is that I would increase the memory foam layer to 3" from 2". So you could do:
6" of polyfoam - $155
2" of 28ILD dunlop - $159
3" of memory foam - $150
11" cover - $139
For a total cost of $603.
The frame you're looking at is fine -- but if you can spend a bit more money something like this is probably better (due to less spacing between slats). That's a foundation and not a frame -- so you could either put that directly on the floor or on a separate bed frame.
No I think it’s side stomach and back an equal split into each position
It wasn’t always soft it was good when we got it maybe because it’s cheap quality and I get hot on this mattress too it’s memory foam - the comments and specs say it’s firm but it isn’t.
This is the current -Resort Sleep Queen 10 Inch Cooling Memory Foam Mattress and Pillow https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBD3NU0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_AgsSFvMHBFYB8
This was the old mattress that we liked - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DZWJ9DY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I loved this pillow so much that I bought a second one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBFP0S6/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_V6BAC5F6B74T4SKS74D7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I am mainly a stomach/side sleeper, I am a hot sleeper, and pillows drive me nuts because they're either too fluffy or too firm/flat. This one, imo, is right in the middle and has held up just fine since I purchased in 2020. I even (sometimes) fall asleep on my back :o
They also make things like this or little ties if you want them to stay together, not just not feel the gap (I haven't used this just found it as an example):
DLLJ White Strap for Twin Beds/Twin to King Bed Strap/Twin Bed Connector for Converting Twin to King or Twin XL to King – 33ft Long 2in Wide Bed Connector Strap with Adjustable Buckle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WSZP3RC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_TKYDPE02QMYS93XC8BAG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I know its strange. I double checked the bed box says E California. What is stranger is that it is 84 wide 72 long. California King is 72 wide 84 long so it cannot be California King size bed frame. I am thinking to order something that can be safely rotated because slats need to be supported on something so if I order eg https://www.amazon.com/Mayton-0-75-Inch-Mattress-Support-California/dp/B08L87XW81/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=bunkie+board+california+king&qid=1623166463&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-5 and then rotate it then they wont have any support at the front/end of the bed.
I have had good experiences with the Baxton Studio brand. They are sold at home depot, Amazon, wayfair etc.
Mostly knockoffs of better quality designer furniture but more affordable and I’ve found they hold up over time.
Most recently I got one of these and it’s awesome. A bit of a pain to assemble but well constructed. The slats are just ok but I replaced them with custom thicker pine slats that cost me another $100 on Amazon and now it’s extremely solid.
Zinus Gulzar Easy Assembly Quick Lock 1.6 Inch Bunkie Board / Bed Slat Replacement, King https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725GYC81/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3XB98ZJQP40T4XMADQC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one I bought I have a king size bed. They offer different sizes!
I feel you. I've been searching for a long time. Recently I'm trying out this misiki cervical pillow. I've had some good nights with it, and my neck pain actually subsided slightly. It's not perfect though, and I'm usually a side sleeper. Hope it helps.
It was the topper that came with this pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082WN5FWV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_8ZPZQKPZ6K6HN23AJEX4
Pad was a bit too firm and caused pain, so it was gifted to someone else
I can’t speak to your mattress decision, since I’m currently in the process of returning my tempurpedic, but this is the adjustable base i’ve used for the last year and it’s fantastic. Make sure you have two strong people to set it up though.
Blissful Nights e4 Queen Adjustable Bed Base Frame with Massage, Anti-Snore, Zero Gravity, Dual USB Charging, Under Bed Nightlight, Wireless Remote Head and Foot Incline and No Tools Required Assembly https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FJM65KK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_686VECD83J7CKJJV2GS4
It uses the same control box as the Tempurpedic ergo base, so you can purchase tempurpedic remotes to use with it instead of the provided remote. The tempurpedic remotes are 10X better than any other remote I’ve seen.
Ah this is a great idea! I have ordered from foam by mail before. Is it illegal to just stack everything without a encasement? Reason I ask, I recently got a super stretchy bottom sheet and it REALLY allows that memory foam to offer the sink in feeling. I love it. I feel anything between the foam and my body (water proof cover, standard bottom sheet, etc) discounts the overall feeling of the foam.
This is the topper I am using. Typical copy/paste low density memory foam. Ultra plush, only lasts ~1 year or so before it begins to tear: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792L9WLN
Thanks for explaining that firmness does not = longevity.
Initially I thought I'd go with mattresses.net replacement cover - it seems nice & sturdy. But I dislike how thick the top is. If I'm getting latex, I want to feel the latex. So I've been considering giving this protector cover a try (amazon). I'm not sure it will be thick enough to hold the mattresses in place, but it's a lot cheaper & I like the surface, which looks like it has more give than the replacement cover. Do you have any specific recommendations?
It's literally just to hold it all together. You could use any zippered cover, but if it doesn't fit tightly the layers could shift around a bit. A tightly fitted sheet can also work -- but it wouldn't protect the bottom of the mattress from dust and such (it would just be foam exposed to the air).
There are other cheaper options out there. Foam by Mail has a few that sort of give me "college dorm" mattress vibes. I also think the placement of the zipper might make it harder to get the layers inside (I could see it being a bit of a wrestling match) -- it is supposed to fit tightly.
Most of the zippered mattress covers for DIY mattresses -- the ones that make it look like a "real" mattress, tend to run like $200+ for a queen size.
By the way -- if you want a cheaper transition layer between the memory foam and the base layer you could use something like this instead.
The general suggestion is for slats to be spaced no more than 3" apart. Your current frame with 7 cross bars won't do that. You don't need to put a box spring on, any foundation will work. If you don't want to add height to your set-up, you could just lay a bunkie board on top of the frame. Or if you do want to add some height you could buy a 4" or 7" foundation.
You can just put something like this on top of whatever frame you want.
So, you can do this where you get the latex and put it on your Sealy. And it could work, but with two caveats:
If my theory about why the mattress is not good is true, I don't think adding toppers will help at all. I think you just gotta ditch the mattress and start fresh.
It wouldn't give you that great of an idea of what the latex would feel like as part of a whole mattress. In the build I suggested the soft latex would be supported by 6" of firmer latex. If you place the latex toppper on your Sealy, the material directly below the latex would be the memory foam in the Sealy. So that would give a noticeably different feel.
Yeah, the foundation is far less important than the mattress. It just needs to support it. There are lots of cheap foundations or bunkie boards that you can get on Amazon and put on whatever bed frame fits your aesthetic. Or you could do like a platform bed. It really doesn't matter that much. Very few companies are making the sort of mattress that would need a real box spring anymore.
This is $150 for a Queen. It has center support and gaps of 2.9" between the slats. You can place it on just about any bed frame you'd like. Or just on the floor.
Yes, this is the slats im using:
Could you consider one of these? It gives the baby a safe nest on your bed.
Cosy Nation Baby Lounger, Baby Nest for Nest Sharing, Ultra Soft and Breathable, Portable Newborn Lounger Partner for Crib & Bassinet, Perfect for Traveling and Napping, Baby Shower Gift (Feather) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TYJLVZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YC9HC34J5VRCH3K4X7RV
King ProAdapt all foam (we would have the Hybrid BUT we got it at the NFM clearance center for $900 so we dealt without). After reading I really would have got no difference in the hybrid, it's slow response anyways). As far as sheets the first set I threw on were our old 1000 tc sheets of some sort, but Took them off threw our old 1800 TC brushed microfiber the description says, and they are very cool. We may try bamboo but happy so far. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CF39HVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_NCS0D4CT8XHXHCS3SVJR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
It's all about getting the loft of the pillow right. Side sleepers typically should have a fairly high loft pillow -- how high depends on how soft your mattress is as well as how long the distance is between the end of your shoulder and your head. You could try a solid foam pillow (as opposed to a shredded foam or feather or down alternative/fiberfill pillow). Latex would give you a firmer feel while memory foam would be a bit plusher.
You could start with something like this which is 5" and see if that's high enough.
You could also try a contour pillow.
This is the secret sauce for me. Yes, I realize it's a kennel mat for a dog.
I also use a buckwheat hull pillow. It retains some heat, but nothing like a regular pillow.
Crisp percale sheets - anything that clings to your skin is going to be hotter. I love my sheets from Thomas Lee, and another set from Sferra Bros.
Pajamas of crisp cotton - woven, not knit. I have some that are seersucker.
Ceiling fan AND window AC in the bedroom.
I've used these two, both have been successful on different beds:
Sleep Philosophy All Natural Cotton Percale Quilted Mattress Pad with Spandex Snug-on Slip Fit Skirt White Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011KYOYN8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_heq5jnqIGWpMS
ExceptionalSheets Bamboo Mattress Pad with Fitted Skirt - Extra Plush Rayon from Bamboo Cooling Topper - Hypoallergenic - Made in The USA, Queen Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008URGSWO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_hjoLRWxMtp2LG
I don't think HR foam is a good idea because something needs to support the HR foam. I think plywood is a good solution, or pegboard (as suggested above). Another option would be to take out your current thin slats and replace them with a bunkie board.
As for your DIY build -- you may want to consider doing split firmness with a softer side for your wife. You didn't mention her weight, but if she's a side sleeper and significantly lighter than you, I think the medium talalay would be too firm.
Is this something similar to what you are looking at?
Can you explain what you mean by solid platform? you mean no slats?
Are you looking for something like this,
I got this for my then 3 year old about a year ago, no issues so far.
Modway Aveline 8" Gel Infused Memory Foam Full Mattress With CertiPUR-US Certified Foam https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ET84Y46/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_oc78FbDAK7ZVX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Your local moving store will usually have them. I would recommend the one that's 4-mil thick or more, since it's thicker, there's a lower chance that it will tear when you're folding and rolling it.
I found this one on amazon:
Bonus: Here's a video of someone doing it:
Protip: Don't try to roll it up in the same manner casper does, instead roll it up in a swirl shape. It's way easier to do.
I have "returned" a few and the only one that has ever required me to wrap it in plastic was Novosbed although they only suggested the original plastic. I bought this from Amazon which they had indicated would be sufficient: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MSCVY7F/
I figured might as well get the two pack in case one day it might be handy to have one for moving down the road.
Also I said returned in quotes because most of the others were collected by mattress recycling company so I am sure given that they didn't care about it being wrapped in plastic as it wasn't going to be used by anyone else.
My favourite pillow and one I recommend to everyone is the Coop Eden and I replaced the pillow cover with a silk cover(The bamboo rayon blend cover on it is nice as well, but I prefer silk). It's absolutely perfect for me, I feel like a king when I sleep on it. You can adjust the loft as well and the gel infused memory foam on it is the best(I've tried the original and the Eden is much better). It was so good I bought the travel one and replaced it with the Eden filling.
I got mine from Amazon Canada.
I just picked this one up off of Amazon.
I’ve had a Tuft And Needle for 4 years and I never had any issues with it...unfortunately I just had an issue with it sagging in the middle (didn’t cause pain, just annoying) so they’re shipping another one for free which is pretty cool.
Got some Casper Sheets and Casper Pillow on sale at Target...hoping everything works out for me.
Looking at the comments and threads on here it looks like my setup is a rookie on e(haha) but any suggestions or feedback are appreciated!
You have one? Whats your experience with it
If you don’t mind bed in a box, ZINUS 12 Inch Euro Top Pocket Spring Hybrid Mattress might be a good fit. My wife and I are also on the petite side and have been sleeping well on this.
ZINUS 12 Inch Euro Top Pocket Spring Hybrid Mattress / Pressure Relief / Pocket Innersprings for Motion Isolation / Bed-in-a-Box, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0876Z38K9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_c73JFb7XMXJ2R
I just pulled the trigger on Amazon for a hybrid mattress, mattress cover, & something often referred to as a BUNKIE BOARD. Since I have a metal bed frame with just a flat metal springy-thingy which sometimes tears my sheets when I change them I want to both SUPPORT AND PROTECT my new mattress. It's basically just wood slats, about 4" wide & spaced 4" apart, but WRAPPED IN FABRIC TO KEEP THE SLATS ALL ALIGNED PROPERLY & to protect the bed above. Around $50 for a twin. Here's the url. Hope this helps.
I wish I did.
I have one that I use, but it's not perfect. It ads a little warmth. It does a pretty good job of not changing the feel of the mattress though. I tried a few that were just awful for whatever reason. I would have thought maybe they were too tight or something and that's why it changed the feel of the mattress, but it wasn't the case. It's really baffling to me how much a protector can change how the mattress feels. Sheets alone don't do it- that still feels nearly identical to nothing, but protectors make it feel so different.
But this is the one I use right now bc I'm too lazy to keep going. I find it only adds a little warmth, and doesn't affect feel much at all. For the price, I just called it good enough. Bigger things to worry about these days, lol. I can't offer you a glowing review about how it changed my life, but I'll say that it works well enough that I don't think about it on a regular basis, if that makes sense.
Tempur has the full king as one option but it will be 3x the cost of this. Maybe save the $ if you can get Bed Boss shipped to you? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NGN7KS2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It’s mostly going to depend on your bed type and what support is there - I haven’t had to use any of these on my main bed but did for a full size bed that’s like 70 years old that we got from my wife’s grandma. My 6 year old sleeps on it so not a lot of weight but they look sturdy
So take a look at peoples pictures and measurements of the bed - something like this might work Zinus Annemarie Solid Wood Bed Support Slats / Fabric-Covered / Bunkie Board, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DGL1L3B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Np7vFbJ36X45Y
If there is still a foundation in the bed for them to rest on
If the foundation the slates rested on is shot completely but you still like the look of your bed and the outside is still sturdy you can drop one of these in the middle as the legs are a few inches inside under the frame you just gotta make sure it measures right and they make them at different heights off the ground Classic Brands Hercules Black Heavy Duty Metal 14-Inch Platform Mattress Foundation Bed Frame - Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EQG7LVA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_kt7vFbWWE90TZ
On the metal frame i have yet to use one but seen a college friend of mine use one after “night time “ activities ended up with his mattress on the floor - but that’s the gist of what you want to look for something with legs slightly toward the middle so it can fit in the bed. I’d go with the wood slats if you have support beams still in the bed as that’s probably a better solution personally
Hope it’s some help. I just bought a new $300 king bed this week my wife liked - finally upgraded from a queen after 10 yrs and have king mattress coming as well - hopefully the slates hold up and feel sturdy otherwise I’ll probably go the metal support route myself as it’s likely to last longer .
Zinus Curtis Upholstered Platform Bed Frame / Mattress Foundation / Wood Slat Support / No Box Spring Needed / Easy Assembly, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KGRAGRS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_UpbqFbTB7PYKZ
This isn’t the exact model, probably don’t make mine anymore but it is this style and looks just like it. The ones with the outer frame like that keep it nice and sturdy
Exactly, & even after the discount it’s still higher. So far I haven’t heard not one squeak, hope the same experience for you.
I purchased this mattress bamboo protector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YYKDW1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JafoFbV8Z822M
That’s great! Just a heads up, the beds pretty heavy have someone help you if possible if not. One person can do it just pace yourself, I did it by myself just slowly. I still love this bed so far, I truly hope the bed gives you as much relief as it did for me.
I tried so many of the online brands and ended up loving these - had them for about a year now, sleep cool, soft, breathable, no issues.
Peru Pima - 285 Thread Count Percale - 100% Peruvian Pima Cotton - Queen Bed Sheet Set, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M71WNUJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_U1kmFbQK2EKN8
I just bought this latex pillow and it’s my favorite. I’m a side sleeper too and it cradles my head and neck perfectly and doesn’t lose its shape. Also sleeps cool. Gonna buy some more.
Tossed it on the floor, threw a sheet over it, then my top sheet and comforter. The "headboard" is my wall.
I think real tatami would give a slight bit and make it less hard than my carpeted floor, but that's just a guess. Like I said, I think you could toss it on a box springs just fine.
Also just FYI Chinese mattresses are incredibly hard. They're almost impossible to find in the US but I think they're ideal. My wife and I had one as our first bed and the thing was just great, but we lived in her home country at the time.
Here's the shikibuton I got. I am sure there are better ones but I just needed a cheap sleep.
Lol Yeah lumbar support definitely adds to the price. I wanted to get one that had that feature but it was 2x as much.
I end up using a lumbar cushion behind my back when I have the bed in an upright position. It works for me, though obviously not ideal.
This was the cheapest adjustable base I found with lumbar support: ($1297 for a queen).
The firm model is noticeably firmer for sure and doesn’t have as much give in the topper. I put this mattress protector on mine and love it. I also use tencel sheets (they’re cooking) from West Elm.
Zen Bamboo Mattress Pad Cover -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BMQ157?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Inflatable mattresses have come a long way in recent years. You might want to check them out on Amazon. They have them with pumps built in, so you only have to plug in the embedded in the mattresss pump. I used to sleep on a 5k Royal Pedic 100% made of organic cotton and wool (has box springs in it) mattress, lost it in the divorce, and slept on a buddy's air mattress, was shocked it was so comfortable, bought my own https://www.amazon.com/EnerPlex-Premium-Mattress-Camping-Warranty/dp/B07S36C127/ref=sr_1_7_sspa?adgrpid=1330409643109472&hvadid=83150817104027&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=51872&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83150968832157... I swear it is great sleeping! You can adjust the firmness via air.
No problem, glad you asked. I will search my account specifically to link what I bought (likely to no longer be sold), but I bought 100% foam. That was in late 2018 and I'm still sleeping on it and I'm 6'3" and 275#. I have had to rotate it so that I was sleeping on the new part last year, but that is kind of expected in my opinion.
Ok.....this is what I got. It was in my order history for 2018 and I can remember that the "green tea" deal was in the title.
Can't guarantee it'll be the same thing I got. Currently listed at $399 and I paid $391 according to my account. I'd say $399 is a pretty good deal considering inflation from 2018.
Keep in mind this is a pretty firm mattress, but I've had many compliments, but maybe 1 complaint that it was too firm.
I am not a lawyer, or mattress salesman, nor doctor. However, I could probably be all 3 if I really wanted. Ha.
This is the air mattress we used. King sized. It has coils in it and feels pretty great and the Tempurpedic Supreme topper made it great. We finally purchased a high end Tempurpedic mattress (over a year, still love it) but we pulled out the same air mattress and topper for a guest and they raved about it so the air mattress is still holding up.
You could try some like “Curve” it’s a tapered foam piece to fix sags but should do what you want. https://www.amazon.com/Sagging-Mattress-Support-Improved-Greater/dp/B08QG3X7DB?ref_=ast_sto_dp
The one issue is it’s only 24” wide so you would need about 2 1/2 of these to cover the entire mattress. By the way, foam can be cut. An electric knife works well, or for only an 1 1/2 thick you might get away with using just a good pair of scissors.
You can buy one of their mattresses from a different vendor in Amazon. I just bought it so I can’t vouch for comfort and quality yet, but it is an Idle Sleep mattress and it comes in the blue box with the branding. Link below in case you want it:
>what you describe is entirely normal with all foams,
I get that softening would be a thing as the bed gets at least 6 hours of applied pressure every night and that has to have an affect. But my $200 Amazon bed-in-a-box went like 16 months before it started causing me enough pain to render it unsleepable without some kind of pillow propping up my back. That's twice as long as the 100% latex. I'd be really dismayed to learn this is an industry-accepted level degradation for my timeframe. To be honest it just doesn't seem right. I mean, we're not obese nor are we "rocking the bed" in any damaging way.
Again, I'm super appreciative of the troubleshooting :)
Typically the bunkie board sits on top of the bed frame. It is a replacement for the box spring. What you posted looks like a frame/board combo which should work.
Here's the one I've been using
Have had it on an ikea frame with no issues. But i would agree you need a metal one not some wood slats.
is it this one?
Ive heard other redditors dislike the combi zone for being too firm, so my plan is to get the 8 inch quantum edge elite bolsa instead (currently have 7 inches of poly foam as support layer).
Sleep on latex also has extremely firm latex for its numbers. Soft is 20 ILD, medium is 34 ILD.
For context, my poly foam base layer is like 35 ILD (although also, for some reason, poly foam feels harder than latex at the same ILD).
Also for context, I use a 2 inch 28ILD latex foam layer as a transition between my poly foam support and memory foam comfort layer (3 inch tempur supreme topper which is like 11-13 ILD).
If I were you, I would find a 26-28 ILD latex topper for your comfort layer. For me personally that was still too firm, but I see in your post you would prefer that as you can always put a serene foam layer on afterwards. I am 6’1 170 pounds of it matters.
I’ve linked a latex topper in 26 ILD (medium) from take ten, who I bought a queen one for a different bed awhile ago and liked it.
What's the vibes re stacking two of those under the mattress to make a base?
(adding to OP too)
It absolutely will! In my experience, wool just keeps you at a comfortable temp. It's almost like magic, no lie. In live in the SF Bay Area so the days can be pretty hot and the nights can be very cold, and anytime I'm in bed during either time I'm just comfortable, never too much of one or the other.
If you're all over the place then I'll double down on suggesting you try some linen bedding and maybe even a wool comforter. I can't promise a wool topper will definitely fix the pressure point issues but I'm 99.999% certain a wool/linen combo will fix your temperature issues.
Edit: I have this one and it's great: Wool topper
Thanks for your reply. Those seem like major enough cons for me to opt for an all-in-one mattress first, like option 1 outlines above. Thoughts?
The Nest Sparrow isn't in my budget.
I may need temporary bedding at this point. You seem to recommend the Tempur topper. Would that work well atop an inflatable bed such as this Intex Comfort Plush. Would I even need a topper depending on how long it takes to find a suitable mattress?
I'm open to any other ideas or suggestions you may have.
Had the same situation and bought this. Though it did make it so that my mattress doesn't stay in place in the frame very well, but that would've happened with any bunkie board I bought.
Thank you so much for looking into this! Can you elaborate on why you say I would need to put the bunkie board in the same location instead of just plopping it on top of the slats? I think that would be possible but would require some disassembly of the bed.
I was planning to get this unless you see some kind of issue with this.