Totally agree too and having same issues with . Even 1Password isn't much good for me as I'm the only one who uses it and the free version works fine for me. I managed to get Secure+ half price so I'm not too disappointed, but I'm unlikely to renew.
Also, VPNs don't work properly on iOS allegedly:
It's not just - I would expect the big G to see the IP address as suspicious.
I get EeroSecure for free from Frontier. If I had to pay for it, I wouldn't use it. But that's just me...
This one is plug-and-play with my Mac. Haven't tested it over 1Gbit though, as I don't have another multi-gig client. I actually landed on this adapter as it was the only one that could push 1Gbit when connected through my Apple Studio Display. The Belkin one from the Apple Store does 1Gbit when directly connected to my MacBook, but was capped at about 300Mbit when connected through the display.
Yeah, I would assume that keystones are for solid also.
Unfortunately, I know enough, to know that there might be a difference with cables vs ends and thats about it, lol.
Just thought I would pass this along.
And if you are using keystone jacks, maybe a punchdown stand would be helpful?
You might be the target audience for eero’s not yet released PoE Gateway that’ll have 8 2.5gb ports and 2 10GbE ports that’ll be release early next year sometime… that’ll do what you want since you can have each eero off that 2.5GbE switchport and still have a supported topology. But it’s pricey.
It’s something to look into if you’re in the research stage.
Ok, it's actually just a 5 port switch: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A128S24/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
From Modem --> Eero -Gateway -> Swtich -> (very few devices). Also included in my topology are 2 other Eero Pro 6Es acting as access points.
95% of my network is wireless.
The diagram looks fine for this one room (assuming the modem is connected via the ‘DEVICE’ port of the MoCA adapter), but one thing to contemplate since you have a DOCSIS 3.1 modem: install a 70 dB MoCA filter (example) directly on the modem’s coax port, as a prophylactic, to block MoCA signals from hitting the modem.
Don't go 6+. Those things are still problematic. For your situation the 6 Pro has the better hardware.
That said, exactly how are you trying to configure this? I can think of a few scenarios.
Option 3 is the best scenario, but I'm assuming that since you are in an apartment that's not going to be feasible. I'd imaging the second option is what you are trying to do. How well this works is going to depend a lot on positioning of the two unit. If you can get line of site between them, or at least minimal obstruction, you should be able to improve your speeds and stability. If you can't then the heavy construction of your walls may still cause as much signal loss between the Eeros as it currently does between the existing Eero and your PC. Wireless is always going to have some shortcomings in this regard.
You don't happen to have a Coaxial cable connection in the apartment do you? This would generally be for cable or satellite TV. You could try a set of MoCA adapters that basically turn the existing run of coaxial cable into an ethernet connection between rooms. These work best with newer RG6 cable. Older, thinner, RG59 does not work as well. If you have an old apartment you probably have older cable that may not perform the best.
An example of a decent MoCA adapter. You would need one at each end of the connection. https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Ethernet-Provides-Bandwidth-Existing-MA2500D-White/dp/B08XP8MMFG
My recommendation is a bit more expensive than /u/afx114's but if you're working a decent amount with Ethernet cabling, it's been great for me.
I use one of these for testing my cables, since I crimp them myself. It's been really useful in helping me find bad cables and crimp jobs!
You are absolutely correct. If he is using wifi backhauls he must have the proper topology or issues like this will occur.
However, there is no indication he is using an "illegal" topology. Its far more likely he has an erro getting too hot and randomly rebooting. First thing I would do is recommend more passive, conductive cooling by adding rubber feet to the bottom of his erros with some double-sided sticky tape to add more airflow.
https://www.amazon.com/Medium-Extra-Tall-Round-Rubber/dp/B00S48P2YY
I’ve been using these with great success. Other ones may not register the low power draw from the eero and won’t even go to battery. Make sure to test.
APC UPS, 600VA UPS Battery Backup... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWAZEIU?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I use one of these has my Router, Eero AP, Gig Switch and my NAS on it, my NAS powers down 5 mins after the power is lost which means that the router etc will run for at least two hours...
APC by Schneider Electric BACK-UPS ES - BE850G2-UK - Uninterruptible Power Supply 850VA (8 Outlets, Surge Protected, 2 USB Charging Ports) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0828G42KN/ref=cm_sw_r_apanp_Q59e5tuASzoAk
After a 2 hour plus phone call with Eero, I got mine fixed. It ended up being my five ethernet switches. I disconnected all five of my switches, reset each router, and now it works! They said I should replace all of my switches with this switch. My previous switches were also the same brand but different models, I do suspect that it is the 16 port switch that I got 3 months ago that was the biggest issue since I did notice more and more network issues since then.
I’ve connected NordVPN many times using nordlynx or openvpn servers and it hasn’t impacted anything else. That said, I haven’t recently and since the last time I did, I’ve stopped using port forwards mostly in favor of Cloudflare tunnels.
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Bummer your pro units are experiencing this range limitation. My experience with pro 6 was much better outdoor range versus wifi 5 cupcakes.
When mine was outside, I stashed inside this box:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075DHRJHZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Due to placement limitations and optimal performance, the little wifi 5 cupcake took Atlanta direct sun all summer and just kept humming. No telling what winter would bring though. Sometimes we get long stretches of freezing weather.
TBH, now I am curious how it would do out there...
I do pay for a password manager and consider it to be worthwhile since it lets my entire family share some credentials and access them from our various devices, etc. I don't use the one eero chose though.
I wouldn't use for a VPN service. Don't want, won't use. There are far better choices out there.
Malwarebytes is also something I would never use. It tends to be pretty crappy, and the company is really crappy.
The old Secure service was something that was at least tempting. It seemed like it was worth the price and I would have signed up for it if I wanted something simpler than what I already have. I did mention Secure when I was recommending eero to people who wanted an easy-to-use solution.
I can't see spending even more money on their new Plus service. It's also the same price as the Plume subscription fee and I decided against that several years ago.
It seems is now part of StrongVPN, at least it will be soon enough. StrongVPN was also a crappy VPN service but it seems to have beefed up its offering with zero logging and p2p support.
That's what it seems to be.
For me to justify spending $70 over $30 eero Secure, it would at least need to switch to a better VPN service.
is consistently rated as a poor VPN service, criticized for poor privacy policy, weak security, and doesn't work with most streaming services.
> Eero adds backup internet feature to its mesh Wi-Fi system
> Eero is bringing the internet backup feature it launched last year with the Ring Alarm Pro (a security system with an Eero Wi-Fi router built in) to all its systems. This lets you wirelessly connect an Eero network to a backup internet source, such as a mobile phone hotspot, helping keep things online when the primary internet goes down.
> Once set up in the Eero app, the backup system will automatically connect to any available backup source you designate when the main service goes offline. It should then automatically switch back when the primary service comes back. You can select multiple backup sources, from a phone hotspot to a nearby Wi-Fi network.
> You can also choose which devices will use the backup to limit data use or opt to have everything in the home stay connected.
> Eero Internet Backup will be available in “the coming months” to select ISP customers and all Eero Plus subscribers. Previously called Eero Secure Plus, Eero Plus costs $9.99 per month or $99.99 per year and also includes advanced parental controls, network insights, and DDNS, as well as subscriptions to Malwarebytes, 1Password, and .
VPN is one of the free apps offered with an Eero Secure+ subscription. Supposed to be used in public wifi networks. I may have used it in the past a few times.
Why was it trying to connect and disconnect is a good question? We haven't had anything suspicious happen on our home network that we have seen.
Here's another example - a nice looking zigbee switch - cool, I should be able to control various alexa smart home devices if I pair it to my eero hub?
Oh 😡
>Required Tuya ZigBee Hub and sold separately.(ASIN:B0969ZHH83)/Intelligent linkage to tuya smart devices for normal use only, can not be used alone without tuya smart devices
I use a Linksys LGS124 and it works fine. They have a 16port option, but not rack mountable if that’s an issue for you.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H1OQBLA/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_R1G8AN4M32JHA79WT5BM_0?psc=1
>Why doesn't their application work?
It works fine! But I'm only interested in using my VPN through qBittorrent and for no other traffic except for torrenting.
>why are you trying to a socks proxy instead of just the VPN?
qBittorrent (as far as I understand) allows me to use a SOCKS5 proxy to route all torrent traffic through a VPN. I used this guide to set it up, and doing so ensures "that qBittorrent is downloading files through a NordVPN proxy, ensuring your downloads are hidden and secured."
So forwarding the ports doesn't make them open. Your machine still has to accept them. If you're on Windows, that would mean manually unblocking the port (or application) in the Firewall settings.
But onto your actual problem, you are trying to use NordVPN with your computer? Why doesn't their application work?
Also why are you trying to a socks proxy instead of just the VPN? A VPN connection encrypts your traffic so your privacy is hidden (such as if you were sailing the digital high seas). But a socks proxy generally won't do that.
> for seeing your unencrypted traffic you’re just trading your ISP for NordVPN
I mean yeah that’s the entire point? You could argue nobody needs a VPN, but that doesn’t mean your argument is valid. A reliable VPN does provide an additional layer of privacy and security. That’s not debatable. Like I said, region locks for certain content are frustrating as hell, and getting around metered data such as locked streaming quality with mobile providers is a valid reason to use a VPN. There is no such thing as absolute and total privacy when it comes to browsing the internet. Obviously. That’s not the point I’m trying to make. And there are several other reliable consumer VPNs that compare favorably with NordVPN, they just happen to be a favorite around here for their feature set.
Sure, your average consumer (in the US/UK/Canada/Australia) might not see the value added with a VPN. They also won’t see any value with an Eero subscription either. But there’s still a large market for them, and it’d be nice for Eero to actually offer a worthy product with what they’re charging for Secure+.
Not everybody can or does trust their ISP / government and would gladly choose the lesser of evils here. Or at least spread the risk by adding an additional layer. Not all consumer VPNs are created equal of course. You have to do your own due diligence and weigh the pros and cons beforehand. But your argument is akin to saying “well if you don’t have anything to hide then you shouldn’t be worried.” I don’t know how your takeaway here is that the potential benefits are “sparse.” It may just be that you personallly don’t see the value or simply don’t care. Or you have an inordinate amount of trust in your personal ISP and whatever public/unsecured Wi-Fi networks you may connect to in the future. But not everyone does and it’s not simply about watching “Australian Netflix”
Actually yeah, it does sound sparse to me. The bulk of the features you listed are specific to NordVPN, not just consumer VPNs in general. Privacy and security are debatable; for seeing your unencrypted traffic you’re just trading your ISP for NordVPN. Obviously since you’re torrenting that works out nicely, but I included that exception in my original comment. Regular people who don’t torrent don’t need a consumer VPN—unless watching Australian Netflix is really that important to them
Apple did provide a fix that developers can use to fix the issue (originally off by default and now enabled in latest versions of iOS) and most (like NordVPN, Brave, and many others) already done so. ProtonVPN doesn’t have a strong reputation for accurately reporting security issues, so take everything they say with a grain of salt.
I had a bunch of issues staying connected with
Anyway, this was supposed to be on a trial basis to see if it solved my issue, but I've been there for a full year now and nobody's changed anything or reached out to me about it.
Might be worth inquiring about.
I’m actually a little surprised they haven’t moved to something else. Mozilla is using Mullvad as their provider, and ProtonVPN is also a solid option.
Honestly, though, they should just do what every other router out there does and build a VPN into Eero. They could even do a pretty, simple app to make the experience nice—or, hell, leverage Amazon’s AWS backend or something. There are so many ways to make it really great for users and they seem content to let it be as mediocre as possible.
I have one more question if you're willing, I want to extend my Eero network but I notice a lot of the extra wireless access points I can buy are much less expensive than simply buying another Eero.
This was what I liked about my old Orbi - extra Orbi Satellites were much less expensive and worked pretty okay still.
Is there any reason I should buy another Eero instead of buying a separate wireless access point like this? The plan was to connect this to my 16-port switch in the basement (where the Eero is), and run the cable upstairs to the living room where the signal isn't very good. The cable running doesn't bother me as I already have one run to that exact location - where the Orbi satellite used to sit.
garage eero box I have the eero 6 inside this hinged box also from Amazon
I figured the box would at least protect it from dust etc. and insulate it from the cold in the winter months.
I’ve had a refurbished wifi 5 cupcake in a similar enclosure fully exposed to the afternoon sun since March of this year. It has survived heavy summer rains in Atlanta so the box is water tight. I’d post a picture but it’s far too embarrassing.
This is not an ideal setup but it’s the only way I can keep my Aqualink pool controller connected to the network (other than running an ethernet cable about 100 feet from my house out to the pool equipment; and no it’s not an easy flat run). In an effort to provide some sun protection, I tried putting the cupcake in the enclosure about 15 feet away and under some shade trees but the finicky Aqualink would not stay connected.
The upside is my whole backyard has better wifi coverage now and when the cupcake fails (yes., “when”) I am only out $57.
Amazon I have another box I use for the garage that is hinged. This one has a cover with four screws. I have the Pro 6 attached to the back of the box with some command Velcro strips. I should’ve taken a photo of the inside before screwing it shut.
Buy some of these and use double-back sticky tape to attach 4 on the bottom corners of your erro...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FR23SZF
It will increase the airflow