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you are correct on the time. I did a 16 day trip ( lees ferry to diamond creek) and we had 2 layover days and I don't think I would want to do it much faster than that. I found a Great place to start figuring out what needed to be done was right on THe Parks website Theres a series of videos on there that will give you the basics of whats expected from you by the park service. A good book with accurate line descriptions is https://www.amazon.com/Colorado-River-Grand-Canyon-Map/dp/B002BZT46S/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=4WNSD7JPAATBBGQ306TD don't orderr that one there are newer versions ( at least the 6th version is out there) ( you want the most recent one) but it accurately described the lines of the river and had a bunch of other info
Search this thread for other info requests as well. lots of info out there.
If you haven’t read it yet, Eugene Buchanan’s is a fun read if you’re into whitewater. Brothers on the Bashkaus book
- My all-time favorite layering garment is an ancient Mountain Surf fleece vest. No zipper, flat seams, no collar. Nothing else fits as nicely under a drysuit. It's super simple, and all my friends are jealous.
- Stohlquist recently quit making their "Water Moccasins" (seen here: https://www.amazon.com/Stohlquist-Waterware-5565-Watermoccasin-Sock/dp/B004ZR9E0G). I haven't found a quality replacement for them yet (I know IR makes socks, but the aramid was a nice touch). Further, I always wanted a pair of these with a just a small patch of stealth rubber under the ball of the foot, so that you could get just an ounce of grip on slippery rocks, but still fit in low-volume boats.
- I don't expect to see this any time soon, but I want a Sweet Rocker or Wanderer that actually covers your forehead.
Get another float bag.
Don’t get a rope. It’s a liability until you know how to use it.
Take a rolling and/or intro ww lesson if you can afford it. It’ll save you years of bumbling trying to figure it out on your own.
https://www.amazon.com/Kayak-Frontier-Intermediate-Whitewater-Technique/dp/0897325893
Here's a better video of the creeks being run ("Wapwallopen, Leavitts, Childs park and Adams in order"): https://vimeo.com/68675314
Here was his updated list from later in the thread, from an old post on PA Creekers:
>This list is based on if you run all the runnable drops at proper flows...
>1. Hornbecks (High water top to bottom) 1. Raymondskill (high water top to bottom) 1. Adams (high water would be hardest but hardly ever happens...) 1. Saw Creek aka Hood run (high water is full on) 1. Mill creek aka tumbling waters/van campens 1. Sawkill (next level unrun drops) 1. Childs Park (next level unrun drops) 1. Leavitts branch 1. Blooming grove 1. Shohola 1. Paradise 1. Brodhead
this is a semiannual that is online only but it's totally freelance stuff...no endorsement deals
you should give it a read
I got a set that have a strap that hold them on me almost like goggles
They clip in and I can exchange the strap for normal ear thingies if I want to use them as safety glasses.
I took it to Walmart and had them change the lenses to a polycarb z95 prescription, with auto tint and A uv polarized coating.
I use them for kayaking, whitewater, rock climbing etc. I just use the straps and they work really well.
Don't worry, I've already been there. Here you go! This will help with that.
A playboat is perfect for the Gauley. But you should definitely be confident in it. If you’re not feeling tip-top readiness, do the lower Gauley or the New.
The app is called Who’s Ready. It’s currently in beta on iOS and Android. We are probably going to make it public on both platforms next week or so, but today there are still some significant bugs. I’m mostly soliciting feedback on it now.
Here are the links:
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.whosreadyapp.whosready
Tall Stories by Ron Cameron - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tall-Stories-Andy-Jackson-Biography/dp/1906095086
White Water Philosophy by Doug Ammons - https://dougammons.com/product/whitewater-philosophy/
Also, beware of fake CAT tourniquets. Ensure you are getting one from North American Rescue. Fake ones can break and cost you or someone their life.
Additionally, consider including a SWAT tourniquet. They are cheap(-ish) and nice and small. CATs are great because you can apply them to yourself, but they don't work well on smaller people (esp. children). SWATs work well on smaller people, but they are difficult to apply to yourself (on your arms at least).
If it were me, I'd figure out a way to convert that deck into a table by adding some legs. They're great for double duty like that. I can't speak to the thickness of that decking material but likely something like these could be added. I have no affiliation to that brand or anything.
Friend uses something like a dodgeball. I use a tin can from a tinker toy set for necks like this K'NEX TINKERTOY - Retro Building Tin - 100 Parts - Collectible Tin - Ages 3+ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XKJPQVR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_6JQ6F0JDDRVAHWZ9QG55?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
A big yeti cup for wrists. Just put something around it so any aqua seal doesn’t get on you cup.
I meant this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Squirt-Book-Illustrated-Squirt-Kayaking-Technique/dp/0897320751 not sure if SB&B is an updated edition (new name is probably a good thing lol) or another book.
Its an amazing river, you'll love it!
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The only thing I can add off the top of my head that others haven't mentioned is some highly recommended reading. Innocent on the Middlefork by Eliot DuBois is an amazing book that will give you some great context for your run.
https://www.amazon.com/Innocent-Middle-Fork-Eliot-Dubois/dp/089886125X
I did the Patagonia Study Abroad Program last fall in 2012 and had the absolute time of my life. You get to kayak 6-7 days a week on some of the best rivers in Chile and, if you're lucky, Argentina. There were 8 of us in the program and 4 of us were Class V boaters and the other 4 were Class III-IV boaters, but everyone had the chance to push themselves and grow tremendously as boaters.
This is my video from my time there. This is an article/advertisement written by David Hughes about how I got there.
If you have any questions feel free to message me!
Here’s an affordable lock that you can use on a kayak:
Master Lock 8413DPF Python Cable Lock with Key, 1 Pack https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00006407M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XCJ3KNT9BPHKZ4XF1YQB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I carry two of these when I’m traveling, one on the bikes and one on the kayaks. Actually when I’m traveling long-term I tend to just bring one kayak for simplicity; I actually don’t recall whether I’ve been able to lock two boats at once with this, but it should be possible with a little creativity.
I used to get a lot of ear infections as a teenager. I don´t know much about the treatment of fungal ear infections, i just did what the doctor advised at the time.
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But for prevention i have warn ear plugs religiously for the last 15+ years and have had 0 infections. I started off using docs pro plugs but would often loose/break them.
The last few years i have used mould your own earplug kits. They work out much cheaper with 3 or 4 sets per pack and work much better.
Think this is the sort I have used
Order these so you dont lose your go pro.you can loop them through the holes in your helmet.
8 Pack Safety Stainless Steel... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XC539L6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
If im in a raft using a selfie stick or something use a locking caribeener to attach the go pro to the boat.
I wear sports bras (my river bras) and just quick dry tank tops. Nothing too fancy, usually from Amazon or TJ Maxx. If she’s already wearing a bra, a sports bra is the next best thing. IMO way better and more comfy than swimsuits.
Ratchet straps can oil can a boat if tightened too much. Get a set of NRS straps and eventually an actual rack.
NRS 1" Heavy Duty Tie Down Strap 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082LRM97Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_TKTQ56F8RW9JPQ8J3ND3?psc=1
I just posted this to someone else...use cable tethers or your going to lose a go pro. You can loop them in your helmet vents, or in a raft connect them to the boat with LOCKING caribener. I use the cables skiing, mt biking, etc. You dont feel the cable in the helmet.
Dang everyone up in here wearing 150 dollar shoes and im rocking 20 dollar suokeni Amazon specials and ive never had a problem.
Check out this book: Colorado Rivers and Creeks:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0964539950/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_76SYYMN0239SSXWM0NFS
(I had no idea this book would ever be sold for $200+. I assume you could pick it up cheaper somewhere). This is a classic that covers the standard runs in all of Colorado's watersheds. It also has details on plenty of V+ gnarly nightmare gorge runs for entertainment value. I've done many sections described in this book and the descriptions and access info I've relied on has been solid.
Portland and Kittery are alright, but over priced. IDK what you consider boondocks, but there are tons of small, nice towns a decent distance from the coast and cities, closer to the action. Also check out this book.
Also for medium volume make sure you check out the Magalloway and the Rapid rivers, they have lots of weekend dam releases in the summer.
HIGHLY Recommend this book: The Guide's Guide
I own the earlier, non augmented version, but it's the same book. This was written by a very successful company operating on multiple rivers in California back in the day. The owner retired and they now only operate on one river.
Anyway, some of this stuff is clearly specific to they way this company did things, but the core values and organizational systems presented in this book are the gold standard for being a good guide. The book covers everything from customer interactions and meal prep to river signals and basic hydrology.
It's 20 bucks on Amazon. The company I work for keeps like 15 copies of it and would pay you three hours of work if you read this book in your spare time. I've read it multiple times for my own refresher in the spring, and have my own copy now.
I have one of the 0.3L Adventure medical first aid kits in my pfd inside of another dry bag. Gotta deal with those river boo boos, especially when you lose your boat.
The spyderco salt knives are also really nice (although their H1 steel edge retention is a bit shit). I got one of the ladybugs to keep in my pfd since I zip tied my crkt bear claw to the front of my pfd.
From "The Guide's Guide Augmented" pg 57:
Wash any dirt/mud/etc off with soap and water.
Fill a 35Gal trash can 2/3 of the way with water, add 2 Cups white vinegar and 1 cup bleach. Mix well. Dunk your funk a couple of times and then line dry it. It will smell like vinegar for about 1 day. This is what we do with our rental/tour PFDs.
Also, a bit of diluted (about 1:15) 303 will help prevent UV damage.
Thanks a lot.
This is the link to what I bought, size large. Do I just get a second one, or does this one work for front and rear?
I've had a 12 dollar Walmart Casio last me 2 seasons as a whitewater guide. I have since upgraded to a 35 dollar Casio. I currently wear This Casio. I am a guy, but I have had two of this women's model because it is an excellent size, doesn't get in the way too much, and it has great functions. All are easy to navigate. I use the timer function almost every day, and it has 5 alarm options. Great lap timer. If it's in your budget, get two. I know it has treated me well for years, but just in case the first bites the dust, it's small and light.
EDIT: yo, that Casio you linked to is fine. It's simple. Only issue I have had on the cheaper Casio is that the light button for seeing the time in the dark does not stay on after you release the button. So you need to be able to look at the watch and hit the button simultaneously. Sometimes I have not had that luxury.
I have an older model thats just like this one. I think the water version they have is neoprene based so it might be like your existing aqua socks. https://www.amazon.com/Vibram-FiveFingers-Barefoot-Toesock-Bundle/dp/B01LZPICKX/ref=sr_1_7?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1533919219&sr=1-7&nodeID=7141123011&psd=1&keywords=five+fingers+kso
I guess the best advice is to go some place and try them on because fit is finicky with them and it will also give you a chance to see minor thickness differences between the various models.
I got these on my crossbars and had zero issues last summer.
I was recommended this stuff https://www.amazon.co.uk/McNett-Tenacious-Tape-Fabric-Repair/dp/B005BLQTEE/ref=pd_lpo_200_bs_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=JE4Y4RXE3TRKTR73BV46 by Mark from IR -- apparently it's pretty bomber.
You can buy this book on Amazon. I'm not sure if you are trying to get one in some other way, but I left you the link.
https://www.amazon.com/Guides-Guide-Augmented-Reflections-Professional/dp/0977277402
A little different response, but I think every guide should read Lessons Learned by Deb Ajango. It's some great experienced about how to handle things when they go wrong.
https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Learned-II-Studies-Education/dp/1929148542
Not sure where you typically paddle, but BC in generally is very hard for it's rating. Just honestly evaluate your skills before you decide you must run any particular river and build up in difficulty. Here is a good BC guide: http://www.liquidlore.com/bc/
This is a pretty good PNW guidebook that can at least give you some ideas: https://www.amazon.com/Paddling-Pacific-Northwest-Whitewater-Hinds/dp/1493023063
It's a bit biased toward class iv/v so that might be what you're wanting. It's a fun read if nothing else. It's shaping up to be a pretty good snow year, so you should have lots of options going into August. Memorial day weekend at the Lochsa is a good spot if you like to party. The Lochsa is bigwater class iv and really fun, nothing too difficult. Lots of people run it in a playboat and there is a great play waves at certain levels. There is also the Clearwater right there which is more challenging iv-v. Also some great hotsprings there as well.
Another river to keep your eye on around that time of year is the Icicle. It's basically the next drainage over from the Tumwater and often has good levels in June. The middle section of the icicle is no joke multiple class V rapids, but it is all roadside and there are locals around to show you the way. Around that time the Cooper, Cle Elum, Ohanepecosh, and Fall in the Wall may be options.
You could try fabric pens although they bleed on some fabrics and will only show on light colours, permanent markers do work but yes bleed. Proper fabric paint will work on darker colours, you can also get special stuff to mix with acyclic paint to improve its adhesion to fabric.
You could try 3D fabric pens, such as these which come in lots of colours, I used them on clothes, bags and shoes as a teenager - I still have some of the shoes and bags and the paint is still there 12-15 years later so it's reasonably hard wearing. These are 3D though so pretty obvious.
Thanks you all very much. What I've gathered from this is if you have the cash a quality dry suit is the by far the best option, where a wetsuit is best only if you don't have the cash or you don't take the time to repair your gear. My next question if you all have the time is what's the difference between these dry suits and why is one twice the cost of the other?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SEZEXFG/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_E5TBwbJZV87DG
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ND21E6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_R4TBwbS2EC5H6
It's cool man, I'm in colorado. Use this.
One of the reviews mentions "cigs" ;)
Hmm, pick up Eric Jackson's book? It has a bunch of different stroke drills. http://www.amazon.com/Whitewater-Paddling-Strokes-Concepts-Kayaking-ebook/dp/B004BDOR4W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1423972554&sr=8-2&keywords=eric+jackson
Also, you can practice your
edit: Practice your slips.
Brothers on the Bashkaus is an excellent read about paddling in Siberia. Not really a learning book but a great journey story.
http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Bashkaus-Siberian-Paddling-Adventure/dp/1555916082