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<em>The Making of Bigfoot: The Inside Story</em> by Greg Long. Probably the only truly unbiased investigation into the Patterson-Gimlin film. This book covers the testimonies of people who knew Roger Patterson and his peculiar life style, as well as the people involved in making the film.
I’ve got it! It’s called Bigfoot and other legendary creatures.
I think with the discovery of liquid water on mars there is a good chance of life existing on the surface. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars
Probably bacterial lifeforms but I like to imagine some sort of larger life form.
Did you ever see the Martian face hugger rover pictures?
I know probably just rock but that's the type of thing I think could exist there.
Alright I could suggest these all day, because this is my absolute favorite niche of films. I love me a great bad monster flick.
For now I'm just going to list some of what I've got on my Tubi watch list, since these are all free to watch. These range from great (per the genre at any rate) to pretty damn campy.
Feast (unknown creatures)
Animal (2014) (escaped gov experiment)
Jurassic Attack
Jurassic Games
Bigfoot: The Lost Ghost Tapes
Feed the Gods (Bigfoot)
Big Legend (Bigfoot)
Pounce (Silverskin)
Dinoshark
Pipeline
The Arbors
Abominable
American Sasquatch
Dam Sharks
Swamp Shark
The Retreat (Wendigo)
Wer (werewolf)
Crypsis (unknown)
Island Zero
Don't Speak (unknown)
Flu Birds
Deep Freeze
Black Water (crocodile)
The Thaw (parasites)
Indigenous (Chupacabra)
Blood Moon (Skin Walker/Were)
Beasterday
Devil in the Dark (Wendigo)
Dark Was the Night (Jersey Devil)
Croc
The Sand
Darkslide
The Wind Walker
Maneater
Cannibal Troll
A Dark Path
Cowboys vs Dinosaurs
Little Dead Rotting Hood
Bigfoot vs Zombies
Dogman 2: Wrath of the Litter
Moth
Feed the Devil
Crawl of Die
Bottom Feeder
Throwback
Legend Has It
Mongolian Death Worm
Terrordactyl
Terror Birds
Alligator X
Mothman
Piranahconda
Bait
http://www.librarything.com/mds/001.944 - Cryptozoology
LibraryThing's pretty reliable about stuff like this, so long as your local librarians know what they're doing. They're more helpful than bookstore clerks too.
If your local public library doesn't have what you're looking for, they're always happy to do InterLibrary Loan requests if you know the specific titles or authors.
I’m not sure if you know about it already, but I highly recommend Unexplained! by Jerome Clarke. It’s an overview of all kinds of different unexplained phenomena. Here’s a link if you’re interested: https://www.amazon.com/Unexplained-Sightings-Incredible-Occurrences-Phenomena/dp/1578593441
This is awesome!
I highly recommend Hunting Monsters to go along with this. It outlines a lot of the report selection and description editing Heuvelmans and Iverson had to do to actually get specific creatures based off of reports, because most of them were wildly different, but they were so focused on creating and establishing this field that they just did what they had to do to create solid images of creatures. Or in many cases, created an entire creature out of a singular report. Obviously, both of these practices are awful for a nascent field, especially one trying to be seen as scientific.
Still, though, this is an amazing piece of history! Thanks for sharing.
This book is amazing with the sheer number of cryptids listed. Two volumes are available. It includes short information blurbs and a paragraph or two depending upon the information available, more famous cryptids might get a page or two, some don't have enough info available. Some good pictures/photos as well.
If you're heard of it, I bet it's in this book. It does feature things that are more flesh & blood, so more supernatural stuff isn't included.
Daniel Cohen's "Encyclopedia of Monsters" is also really good, though it is a little older.
Here it is on Amazon for those that are interested in it. I'm taking one though, sorry! It seems there are few copies left at a sane price point.
Hopkinsville Goblins in Christian County. There is also a book called "Kentucky Cryptids: Monsters of the Bluegrass State" Here's a link to Amazon Kentucky Cryptids book
Put a small camera in the trash cans. I just bought this on amazon to put on my patio outside since there’s a cat that keeps showing up
Sorry I'm a little late to the conversation, but it's cool seeing the giant catfish art again.
The first time I saw it was on Loren Coleman's Mysterious America (revised version 2001): https://www.amazon.com/Mysterious-America-revised-Loren-Coleman/dp/1931044058/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=Uli8g&content-id=amzn1.sym.a6902a35-db15-41bc-b73e-8acb54939e9e&pf_rd_p=a6902a35-db15-41bc-b73e-8acb54939e9e&pf_rd_r=137-3535875-...
Read 'Round in Circles' by Jim Schnabel - an excellent first-hand account by a circle-maker at the height of the craze.
Yes, I'm suspicious of any new witnesses as they're never mentioned in the early sources I've read.
I've found the book but I'm reluctant to spend £16.99 and invest the precious time reading it when I'm doubtful about the story anyway.
Perhaps someone who has read it can comment?
A fun indie novel about the “Cuqui” legend in Mexican culture. I grew up in San Antonio where our parents used that word synonymous with The Boogie Man. Tried to find some non fiction book years ago but found this instead. Amazon link.
IMO, the answer is obviously that many bodies HAVE been found since colonial times. But once they’re gone what are we to say? A high profile example of this is the Minnesota Ice man. This is because there are pictures of the body in the block of ice… before and after. What I mean by that, is at some point, they replaced the actual body with a fake and refreezed it. You can clearly see anatomical differences between the earlier iceman and the former, the fake. here is a book that makes the case for this in detail.
As I’ve said before when this comes up (it does, constantly) is that, if you found a massive big foot in the woods, how would you go about moving it without having the body confiscated by authorities? They’re massive, heavy, and tbh, usually not alone. I personally weigh 108 pounds and have no friends so I unfortunately would have no chance of moving one if I found one! Especially deep in the woods, where cars can’t go.
IF, dear reader, you ever are fortunate enough to find a big foot body. Call CIVILIANS for help. Do everything you can to move that body to a public space, discreetly, and then rip the lid right off this motherfucker. I want one of these bodies in a public square where so many ppl see it, take pics w it, and confirm it’s reality that the cat will never go back in the bag again.
Thanks for asking. You can get it off Amazon. It's called Son of Vengeance. It was really fun to research and write because the guy is such a mystery.
It has been somewhat investigated but keep in mind it is very remote. The legends of a tropical oasis somewhere in the valley have proven false (obviously).
https://www.amazon.ca/Legends-Nahanni-Valley-Hammerson-Peters/dp/099395586X
Yeah, I'm from basically the same camp - I think nearly all of them (if not all of them) are not real. It makes sense to classify, based on the original essence of the field. Ivan Sanderson and Bernard Heuvelmans were both traveling the world, trying to find, verify, and classify a lot of creatures they had heard about. The world being widely available for (unfortunately racist, colonistic, and insensitive) exploration was new, as was the advent of ubiquitous and affordable photography, and so many new creatures, cultures, and landscapes were being seen by millions for the first time. Everything was exciting, and so there was no reason, given the fantastical things people were being able to see, to doubt a sighting of a giant dinosaur in a lake, or a weird sloth with a mouth on its stomach. Imagine being an adult and learning that giraffes are real. You wouldn't doubt any other creature people wanted to describe, that thing is insane.
So, my personal feel for the field is of that ilk - nothing paranormal, just stories of amazing-sounding creatures from various cultures. That's going to have a huge crossover with folklore, but even folklore of different cultures often differentiates between creatures that are considered real vs creatures that are just for stories, or part of their religion myths.
Sorry, that got rambly, haha. Basically, I'd recommend the book Hunting Monsters. It has a really grounded approach, goes over the origins of each cryptid covered, and their journey through the years.
I also highly recommend the Histocrat's recent podcast on Bigfoot. They go through and debunk nearly every sighting of them from ancient history up to modern times. Watch it here. I have been interested in cryptozoology since childhood, and this taught me a lot of new info.
I know what you mean, although I suspect that books are only a small drain on resources compared to other things, and predominantly farmed trees too.
My Kindle is pretty stuffed. Most new books I buy are on Kindle these days if I can get them. Cheaper and more convenient (and less shelf space).
But there are some classics you can't get as ebooks.
Here is a recent acquisition Bigfoot, by Kenneth Wylie, from 1980
And it gives me a chance to show off that mine is a signed copy - you don't get that in an ebook!
This is the real question isn't it!
The book was a large-format hard-cover with glossy pages and was definitely a commercial publication. My family is full of "book people" so the house was always filled with books of all sizes and topics, and I remember reading this while sitting on their bed.
Based on my later discussions with my grandparents I actually did a fair bit of digging trying to find the mysterious source of this photo. They routinely ordered "Reader's Digest" books, so I went to libraries and found dozens of Reader's Digest books on mysteries, the American West, etc., but never found that photo. They remembered that my mother had an entire encyclopedia set of paranormal mysteries (this one: https://www.amazon.com/Man-Myth-Magic-Encyclopedia-Supernatural/dp/0839360355) and I actually located it in the attic, but that wasn't it either.
Here's the thing - as frustrating as this is for me, I know with absolutely 100% certitude that I've seen this photo, and I can immediately identify any of the dozens of "SOLVED" revelations as fakes because I remember enough details to point out where they're wrong. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm not a believer in "the supernatural", and my interest in cryptozoology is as a little curious offshoot of my overall interest in science - I don't see any evidence in favor of Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monsters, Megadons, etc., but I'm open to things like surviving thylacines and potentially large undescribed deep-sea animals.
The thunderbird photo is vexing for me because I KNOW I saw it, and can't put the details together to identify where. I am adamant that this is not a falsely-reconstructed memory or "Mandela effect" mirage, and I say that specifically as a neuroscientist who is aware of how plastic memory can be.
So, yeah, it kinda makes me nuts :)
every known one? Lol
Maybe Cryptozoology A To Z is an idea?
I wouldn’t pay for any course in cryptozoology. It’s not a real science, and there’s technically no such thing as a cryptozoologist. If you want to learn something interesting about the subject, I’d recommend buying a book. The internet is the worst place to learn about cryptozoology.
On the Track of Unknown Animals by Bernard Heuvelmans is an excellent book
Still in Search of Prehistoric Survivors by Dr. Karl Shuker is also a great book
This would be congruent with a pteranodon sighting. I was looking up info on missing 411 and was curious about the rising sightings of pteranodons. Upon researching them, they are quadrupedal their front arms are detached from the wings with 4 digits on the end. They have been sighted as being bioilluminescent - green glowing at night. Some crests are more triangular in shape based on sub-species. With this information, you can imagine what it would look like coming towards you front a front on perspective. They are noted as being extremely aggressive and territorial. At night It would be glowing, it’s tucked in wings would look like a skirted bottom, 4 digited front claws would look sort of like hands, with a triangular head if front on. Interesting to note it emits a poison mist - this could be how they knock victims unconscious without anyone hearing a sound, why dogs lose the scent, and they could probably disrobe victims with those 4 large front digits - as to why some victims are naked with clothes next to them. pteranodon on all fours
I’d recommend the following:
Mysterious America by Loren Coleman
Still in Search of Prehistoric Survivors by Karl Shuker
It could be, but there are "bigfoot-like" animals seen around the world. I am more interested in the phenomenon as seen around the globe and in native people's oral traditions.
If it was real it would likely be a great ape or other distant or not so distant human relative that we have assumed was extinct.
We know several Homo subspecies did exist because of fossils and other remains, so maybe some still do in the few giant inaccessible areas left.
Loren Coleman has a great book on the subject if you are interested.
TRUE GIANTS: Is Gigantopithecus Still Alive? https://www.amazon.com/dp/1933665491/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_K9VKW2AZ69B3VAD8QV9Y
I don’t know of a subreddit, but I know of this documentary and this book also addresses the topic.
Have you ever read Raincoast Sasquatch or Giants, Cannibals, and Monsters? If you’re not into the hardcore science, but like to learn about the folklore, those are both good choices.
Nope. That’s a common myth that I hear, but neither Patterson nor Gimlin ever strayed from their story or confessed to a hoax. Bob Gimlin still goes to bigfoot events to tell his story. He’s remained entirely consistent over the years. No one close to Patterson, no one in his family, none of his friends, none of them ever talked about a deathbed confession. It’s simply a rumor that someone made up. As is often the case with cryptozoology, rumors and myths gain more attention than facts.
I highly recommend The Bigfoot Film Controversy if you’d like the full story and context. There are a lot interesting, but little details that most people don’t know.
No. I’m very skeptical of winged humanoids in the first place. If I hadn’t had experiences of a paranormal variety, I would probably laugh at the notion and never give mothman a second thought. But the world is a strange place. I tend to think that, if such creatures actually do exist, they’re probably related to the UFO phenomenon.
If the witnesses in Point Pleasant, West Virginia are to be believed, mothman sightings were just the tip of the iceberg. The situation was far stranger than a few sightings of a flying humanoid creature. There were UFO sightings and MIB encounters in Point Pleasant when the mothman sighting spree took place. And a lot of witnesses describe characteristics that don’t make sense for a biological life form. For example, a lot of witnesses report that the creature never flapped its wings, but somehow flew at absurd speeds. Others report hearing mechanical sounds when they saw the creature. Perhaps more importantly, witnesses tend to say that it was accompanied by strange lights in the sky.
I’d highly recommend reading The Mothman Prophecies, by John Keel and Mothman: The Facts Behind the Legend, by Donnie Sergent Jr. and Jeff Wamsley if you want a comprehensive retelling of the events in Point Pleasant.
You might want to check our podcast out. We are a comedy podcast that try to focus on lesser known cryptids. Our podcast is called [Cryptid Addicted] (https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/cryptidaddicted) and it's avaliable on Spotify, iTunes, Apple Podcasts, etc. Always excited to hear the communities thoughts and get some cryptid suggestions!
Hey! Nope not on Stitcher yet, but we are on Podcast Addict, Apple Podcast and iTunes. You can also use this link to listen to it from anywhere online (even via mobile).
a monster spotters guide to north America by Scott Francis
Could it have been A Dictionary of Cryptozoology by Ronan Coghlan? Came out in 2004.
I don’t live anywhere near your neck of the woods, but I have read Lyle Blackburn’s book about the supposed lizard man. It’s pretty good if you want to hear about eyewitnesses encounters and it’s not a long read either. That’s probably your best bet. I suspect you’ll have a very hard time finding eyewitnesses who’ve seen the creature more recently. I don’t think it’s still seen today.
Here’s the link if you’re interested: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1938398165/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KF4W9RN15HTDGZS0MQ5Q
Now he's published a cryptozoology book as well: guess which cryptid's covered first. There's no contents page in the preview, so I don't know if the rest of the content is similarly 'original'.
Loren Coleman’s Cryptid book is a good start Cryptozoology A To Z: The Encyclopedia of Loch Monsters, Sasquatch, Chupacabras, and Other Authentic Mysteries of Nature https://www.amazon.com/dp/0684856026/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_fUQaGbPAV8E3A
Monster Spotters: Guide to North America is a great book for people getting into Cryptozoology. It was my first book on the subject back when it first sparked my interest. Definitely worth the purchase.
Welcome!And i HIGHLY reccomend this book, it's a lot of information and the author have an very interesting conclusion on the identity of the beast(its not a wolfdog, but its very interesting) https://www.amazon.com/Beast-audiobook/dp/B07454YZ3J/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Beast%3A+Werewolves%2C+Serial+Killers%2C+and+Man-Eaters%3A+The+Mystery+of+the+Monsters+of+the+G%C3%A9vaudan&qid=1596916738&s=books&sr=1-1
I’m inclined to believe that the two guys who were in the middle of making a fake Bigfoot documentary, probably faked the Bigfoot sighting. They rented a professional grade suit and asked how to modify it, were told how to make it look more realistic and hired a guy to wear it. Either that is the craziest coincidence ever or the infinitely more like explanation is they faked the thing.