Mink Oil will DARKEN that leather too much and it will lose its character.
Bick 4 is much gentler and won't harm or darken the leather.
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I've also heard recently that some new evidence has suggested that the army had some Type Is too and that the Navy wasn't the only destination for them.
Fred Honeycutt's <em>Military Rifles of Japan</em> is a much better and more in depth book than Duncan McCollums too.
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I took a quick look through Bogdanovic's Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles book and didn't see any mention of an RR mark on the rifle. I've never seen that before either? Any import marks on the rifle? I'm curious when it might have come into the country. Often times, knowing what batch it came in with can help narrow down some of the history of the rifles.
Looks like a nice rifle, and priced well too.
I'm inclined to say the serial number is "X1345" which would align well with a 1942 production BSA Shirley Rifle according to Stratton's book on the Enfield and Skennerton's notes on the enfield. Maybe /u/Caedus_Vao knows.
/u/Myname1is hit all the high points. In addition to "Italy's Battle Rifle" by Russ Arendell and Steve Woodrum, this website is an excellent resource, but is in Italian and will require translation software in your web browser. They published a book however with the same info (and more) in English: The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History by by Giovanni Chegia (Author), Alberto Simonelli (Author), Ralph Riccio (Contributor).
Post what you find! Probably not a ton to find, but Id be surprised if there were no roundel or stock makers mark anywhere.
Couple books if you're looking to add to a library.
Italy's Battle Rifle by Russ Arendell and Steve Woodruff. You might snag a hard copy on Gunboards when Russ posts that some are out there, but otherwise you can download a digital copy from their website for 25 ish bucks.
The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History (0) Hardcover – June 28, 2016 by Giovanni Chegia and Alberto Simonelli. This is the English translation of the website I linked above but with more details and properly translated text. It's got a ton of details with original Italian documentation cited.
Beautiful rifle. Thank you for not wanting to destroy the original finish, they aren't making these guns anymore and they should be preserved.
As far as cleaning the wood goes, I find that Murphy's Oil Soap does a great job. I would use the spray variety and not the mix-with-water one. This product does a pretty good job of removing surface dirt and finger prints, and leaves a nice shine on the wood without looking too flashy or permanently altering the original finish.
I just went through this replacing the front band on my 1903a3. Save yourself the trouble and buy a good quality punch that's the proper size for the front sight blade. If you get more milsurps a quality punch set will come in handy, I have the same punches also in 3/32" and 1/8".
OP I would suggest picking up the book listed below if you are interested in learning more about the rifle.
I recently picked up a 1903a3 and have found this book to be very useful
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1882391306/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_rszkFbS17RKEE
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Unfortunately, there's not a ton of resources out there, but there is one very good book that I'm aware of: FN Mauser Rifles: Arming Belgium and the World by Anthony Vanderlinden. This is what I've been referencing.
These are fine but if you're a cheap-o like me you can buy the desiccant by itself. You can find any kind of empty jug at home and poke holes in it and use that. I have an old protein tub full of the stuff with small holes drilled in it.
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Its not a Webley like some have mentioned, but rather a British No.2 MkI* revolver like /u/ouiaboux said. Here is mine for reference with some of the same markings as yours has identified. It was in effect a blatant copy of the Webley...who would sue the British Government and more or less get a pretty tiny payout over the whole debacle.
The DI* mark indicates its in the Mk I* configuration and was made at the Enfield plant. That hammer is either an original or aftermarket replacement as the * configuration was double action only. Those wood grips weren't used long; Q-R prefix guns in 1942.
Mark Stamps .380 Enfield No. 2 Revolver is the best book on these handguns out there.
My first K98K IIRC was an AR 41, marketed as a veteran bring back. I don't remember how much I paid, as it was almost 10 years ago now. It wasn't too much money though, as Mosins and the like were still about $70-100 dollars a pop out of the crate.
It was a complete mis-match. Looking back I think it was a Balkan imported barreled receiver that somebody thought to restore. I didn't realize this until I started making friends in the collectors circles who had been in the game for much longer than me. I learned from them what the rifle really was.
They suggested that if I was really after a specific version of a rifle (like a veteran bringback example) to buy a book about it, if available. My first K98 book was "Backbone of the Wehrmact" which is sadly out-dated now.
You live and learn though, all apart of the joy of collecting milsurp :-)
/u/Shellemp got you the answer on the dates
The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History by by Giovanni Chegia, Alberto Simonelli, and Ralph Riccio is a great book. Still in print, detailed, and affordable.
Their website is all in Italian. The book is nice to have for the proper translation alone.
I'd first suggest you buy Military Rifles of Japan as it's the best overview source on rifles right now. There are others that go into more detail, but are out of print. Besides actually learning what inspection/acceptance marks, I'd just make sure the stock isn't sanded.
You've got an M48 that was imported by Mitchels Mausers.
Mitchels was generally regarded as scum of the earth among collectors for pretty notoriously making fake K98k rifles from captured Yugo Mausers. They would also sand, refinish, and reblue guns and label them as "collectors grade" guns.
Having an MMC import stamp always add a layer of unknown to the rifle. Some rifles they imported and did nothing to, others they totally refinished and ruined. However, I almost wonder whether your gun is an M48BO which was in effect an M48B that was left unmarked for export.
What is the rifle's serial number and does the bolt match the reciever? I can reference my book on these, Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles by Branko Bogdanovic.
Its an excellent book, especially for the price. I highly recommend it.
> It's also missing a few pieces I didn't catch in the initial look over, such as a lock plate screw and the ejector/extractor.
Yikes, the extractors cost $50 for repro or $100 for original, and then throw another $30 for the plunger + spring etc.
sorry mate looks like that $400 got you a rusted NRA-fair gun that would cost more to restore to collectible condition (you're better off selling it for $400 and putting $700-$800 towards finding a complete unmolested one with ramrod, and a stock that won't split if you fire it). Does the breech block at least lock up properly so you can use it as a shooter, or does it wobble when closed (unsafe to shoot)?
For future reference, the book on these is only $20 on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/45-70-Springfield-Joe-Poyer/dp/188239139X
I honestly don't know why more "new collectors" don't bother reading books before buying, that $20 would have easily saved you $50-$100 haggling down
The Supplies, Surprise, and Moonlit Skies book series has Tom Ensminger's data. Tom Ensminger was the son of a Carpetbagger who spent thousands of hours compiling and digitizing the squadron's records which are now in the Air Force Academy's Special Collections. He stored his data on his website and sold CDs with the data on them, but unfortunately, he passed away about 10 years ago and his data is behind a paywall on his website 801492.org. USAFA has a copy of Tom's CDs, which have the mission report excel docs on them- I made a copy a few years back, but I just moved and the hard drive is not as easy to find as I thought. I'll post them when I find it
Interesting test! What might make this easier is a luggage scale like this one here.
European Arms in the Civil War currently has the most detailed information on this type of musket, though eventually an English language book on Austrian arms will be published.
https://www.amazon.com/European-Arms-Civil-Marc-Schwalm/dp/1931464847
https://www.amazon.com/Milsek-13570-Furniture-Cleaner-12-Ounce/dp/B001TF73ZA/ref=asc_df_B001TF73ZA?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80333120120413&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hv... I’ve used this for years. I’ve never noticed any damage to the stain or the finish of my stocks. It seems to bring back the color of the wood.
Looks like a Belgian 1889 variant of some sort. More photos and better photos would help, specifically those that show marking clearly. I'd like to see proof marks on the barrel/receiver too, which may be under the woodline and require removal of the stock.
FN Mauser Rifles : Arming Belgium and the World and Mauser Military Rifles of the World are really the two best resources on Mauser rifles, specifically Belgian models. I've got both and can reference them to try to figure out what specifically you've got. It's almost certainly a sporterized military rifle.
For what it's worth, the website's curators have a book also, which has much better English Translations and is laid out a little nicer. The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History. Steve Woodrum and Russ Arendell also wrote a good book titled Italy's Battle Rifle
Get the Lee Pacesetter dies, having the adjustable die will come in handy when setting your depth. Believe me it'll be trial and error until you get the bolt to close and the bullet doesn't touch the lands.
https://www.amazon.com/LEE-PRECISION-Pacesetter-7-5-Swiss/dp/B00162TEY4
Yes I understand. It’s not correct or anything. I have this cloth olive drab riser and it makes shooting more fun. I’m looking for a leather one for better looks
Nice pistol. I've always wanted an Astra 900. I think they're cooler than the similar Mauser pistols.
> Any other interesting info you guys could provide about this would be cool, apart from a forgotten weapons video and some old forum posts this doesn't seem to be a super well documented gun.
It's a bit pricey, but Leonardo Antaris' book should include everything you want to know. I don't have the Astra book (I kind of want it now), but I do have his Star book, and it's excellent. It's basically the authoritative source on the subject.
I followed that basically step by step and used the same materials. Seems to be a good repair. As for what I used to make everything stick together devcon plastic steel putty. Didn’t feel like dropping $100 or so on the big tub of it off of brownells. Hopefully I still got the right one hahahah… time will tell.
You really ought to buy a reference book if you're trying to assemble a "correct" 1903.
Poyer's book is cheap and good enough.
Robert Ball's Mauser Military Rifles of the World 5th Edition has several pages on Persian Mauser rifles. E-books are available online through legitimate retailers and other file sharing sources.
Here’s your go go book. Still in print and only $60. Got mine with my first carcano as a Christmas present, and it’s WELL worth it. If you’re interested in this family of rifles, this has all your markings, variations, and history soup to nuts.
Dutch Mannlicher carbines are tricky. There's a PILE of variations that all generally fall into one of about a dozen known model types.
This looks like a sporterized gun as it lacks any sort of rear band. Some models didn't have a front band/bayonet lug, but all of them had a rear band present.
Numrich and Liberty Tree likely have parts if you're going to try and rebuilt it, but quite honestly, it's not worth it. Its a sporterized gun that fires a cartridge no longer in production. Reloading is complicated too as die sets or brass aren't easily found. Custom dies or a combination of dies intended for other cartridges can be made to work. Utilizing brass from similar cartridges to form into 6.5 Dutch is also an option.
There's not a lot of books out there on these rifles either. The best one I know of in English is by Paul Scarlata: Mannlicher Military Rifles: Straight Pull and Turn Bolt Designs
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Be forewarned, using a borescope can be disheartening lol
The Russians didn't capture post war refurbished Yugoslavian rifles.
This rifle was likely refurbished sometime between 1947 and 1951 once M48 production kicked off.
I didn't mean to offend you by saying that it's a regular M24/47. You've got a very typical post war refurbished M24 Mauser, that was brought to the M24/47 standard after WWII. You asked for more details on your rifle, and I guess I'm telling you it looks like a regular M24/47. There's nothing wrong with that.
I've got a copy of <em>Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles</em> by Branko Bogdanovic, which is the bible for Yugo Mausers. Based on your photos, there's nothing to suggest anything other than this being a typical M24/47. If there's markings you want ID'd you can share photos and I can reference that book for you.
You need a gunsmith bit set and a manual impact driver. Instead of battery operated, they look like an ACP and are operated with a hammer strike.
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I used these to mount my old rifles, looked more period correct than hooks.
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If you don't already have it, Colin Webster's book Argentine Mauser Rifles: 1871-1959 is an excellent source of info on these and provides a bunch of historical context throughout the entire date range specified by the title.
Neatsfoot has been used for years for various leather products, from horse tack to trouser belts to bike saddles to gun leather. It's rendered from the leg bones of cattle. A little goes a long way, rub some on and let it sit awhile to soak in. I usually wait overnight. It's a process, takes a few days. I start with Leather Restore if something is really old and dried out to the point of cracking. It's a bottle I have had for ages and doesn't seem to be on Amazon or the usual places any longer, but there are a number of oils with names like Leather Honey meant for this task. I'm sure some of the other collectors will have recommendations.
Never used it on guns but CRC 3-36 spray does wonders on corrosion and surface rust. I work in a very humid environment that is surrounded by salt water and we are constantly battling rust and corrosion. multiple times I have pulled old rusty tools out of a disused shop or storage closet, gave it some good scrubbing with 3-36 and a wire brush, brought the tool back to life.
Be sure to use that website if you find one. It might be rare! Another big thing is the maker, For Type 99s, Nagoya, Kokura, and Toyo Kogyo are common, while Tokyo Juki Kogyo, Izawa Jyuko, Howa Jyuko, Jinsen, and Mukden are uncommon/rare.
If you want to become serious about Japanese rifles, get Military Rifles or Japan by Fred Honeycutt. It has a bunch of information on each series, and their characteristics. I talked to him once on the phone because my friend was friends with him, and he sent me a signed copy for free! You can find the book here.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DXZ66K3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Make sure you get the ones that are a little wider to fit some of the beefier stocks like the Garand. I think these ones are 1.7inches across.
How much money do you want to spend and how correct do you want it to be? I'd suggest you Buy a book and do some research before doing anything.
or if you want more detail
Beyond that, you've not provided nearly enough information to really give you much advise. It may be a simple stock swap or it may be a rifle that's not worth the time/effort to fix.
Had to look up in my book - yes S stocks are appropriate for the 1903's. It's not a grave sin however, to use a scant or C (pistol grip) stock as lots of post-war arsenal repairs used those. I recommend if you end up getting the 1903, that you get Bruce Canfield's excellent book (link shown for reference but you can get them cheaper).
https://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Guide-Springfield-Service-Rifle/dp/1931464154
>please spoonfeed me everything so I don't need to do any research on my own
It's people like you who are the reason why the milsurp market is so crazy now, people buy guns they think they can "learn about" by asking a few internet forum questions, and don't have the patience to do a couple hours of internet research let alone reading a book.
You're in luck, Amazon has a book that's still in print. It's not even a dense book, less than 100 pages and answers all your questions. In fact, if you're that impatient, you can even read the kindle version online instantly:
https://www.amazon.com/Webley-Service-Revolver-Weapon-Book-ebook/dp/B01DPPTRH8
It's happened to the best of us.
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>Any idea when the Bavarian Hospital Supply unit mark was canceled and it was assigned to a light cavalry unit? I assume it was sometime during WWI
It must've been prior to WW1, after the war broke out, unit markings weren't stamped anymore. It's not possible anymore to trace back the exact time the rifle was transferred to another unit. The military archives reaching back all the way to the 18/19th century in Germany were bombed out in WW2, and the surviving information is extremely sparse.
>any good resources you'd suggest for unit marking identification?
Handbuch deutscher Waffenstempel is my go-to regarding any military stamps. It's only available in german, unfortunately.
Those are Chillean marks. I've made a couple posts that ID all the marks you'll find on Chilean rifles, including the 1912 Mauser which I assume these photos illustrate. The r/milsurps wiki has these posts along with some online resources and book recommendations. David Nielsen's book on Chilean Mauser rifles in particular is probably the best written resource out there on these rifles.
Yup and yup! It's the right shape to accept many HK claw style mounts. I bought a few airsoft-grade mounts and found that this one works best: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PLYKP2N. Holds zero so far after a few outdoor trips. I would definitely recommend something for plinking that you can mount an optic to.
I think the answer probably lies in Peter Laidler's book on the Sten Machine Carbine. Unfortunately, the book has been out of print for decades and is prohibitively expensive. I am actively looking for a free copy at a library or one reasonably priced.
I know a some Arisakas were converted to use .30-06 for the South Korea army. The caliber stamping on top of the receiver bridge seems weird tho since it should be marked on the side. And there isn't a notch cut in the receiver for the slightly longer round. Yours might just be a bubba job hard to tell.
https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Manual-Rifle-Japanese-30-06/dp/0934523681
I actually use a pair of these on my hardwood floors, but I was considering the recommendation for additional storage.
You need a copy of this book. It'll fluctuate in price between 99 and 350 bucks.
I think you're missing a few odds and ends, but have all the major model designations.
Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles by Branko Bogdanov is a great source for the history and development of the Mauser rifle in Serbia and Yugoslavia. Good luck getting it at a sane price
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If you have prime the v2 is 237 rn.
They really are wonderful. My K31 is my favorite rifle by far. And I have theses ones, they work great and hold up well.
Correct.they are brews and about 1” around. I then stamped them with a punch set.
Buy a book... if you want the rifle to be "correct", there's way more detail to that answer than can easily be described in a single comment.
Joe Poyer's book on the 1903 will address your questions and it's only 25 bucks on Amazon
It's a Spanish M43 rifle made for the Spanish Air Force. The tag is largely incorrect. It was made in Spain and not Germany. It's an 1898 pattern Mauser but it's not a Gew 98. Page 358 in Robert Ball's MMROW has details on it. Hard copies are expensive now that it's out of print, but the ebook is pretty cheap
The price is too high in my opinion.
None of what I've got is particularly excellent condition. I've never wanted to drop the coin for nearly mint stuff and always been happy getting guns that are in generally "good shape". What you posted here is by far in better shape than really any Mauser I own.
Careful with how you word those requests on reddit, they don't take kindly to sales of boomsticks. Easy way to get a sub banned. Probably best to edit that comment to reflect your interest in finding one elsewhere.
With regard to number of short rifle production, not off the top of my head, but it's referenced in my imgur album: 5600 short rifles and 37,500 long rifles based on numbers in Nielsen's book on Chilean Mausers. For this reason they're quite uncommon. I was lucky to find this one for sale on Century Arms website for very little money several years back.
That's a nice example of a fairly uncommon variation too. Quite a few it seems were converted to Engineers carbines.
I assume you have Webster's book on the Argentine Mausers? It's an excellent reference.
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Well, I’m sorry the photo is not good quality enough for you. What you are seeing is a reflection of studio lights I am using. If you look at the compass you can see that the reflection lines up with your barrel shadow and see the light itself in the reflection of the compass.
The carbine is a 200k serial number that retains its original Du-Lite finish. The internals are correct and likely original to the piece. The stock has no indication of having any later than a type one barrel band applied to it. On the barrel near the gas cylinder has the 'shadow' that all early Inlands have since they blued the barreled receiver after the barrel band and sights were installed. I’m versed enough in carbines to be comfortable claiming it’s an original. As a fun fact when I got it and submitted a data sheet and pictures to the carbine club they said they already had a data sheet on it from the early 1980s and reaffirmed it as being an original paratrooper.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it does lead to damage in the long run. Another option would be to rig up a belt loop with a snap buckle on it that you can just undo and thread back into your belt instead of removing the whole belt
Edit something like this
Get one of these
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You can use that to hone it out instead of the reamer. Might take a while depending on how much metal needs removed, but it should work. Make sure to remove any paint in there first and run it wet/oiled and not dry.
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I commented on the /r/guns post, but I can add here for the sake of putting the info in this sub. Here's a post I made 6 years ago about mine. I probably ought to go and update it a bit with more info... might start on that today!
You've got an Enfield No.2 Mk I** revolver. These revolvers were the 2nd iteration of the No.2 revolver designed to simplify production. The MkI* saw the elimination of the single action sear and hammer spur to reduce manufacturing cost/time. The Mk I** had the hammer block removed from the gun, so only the rebound lever kept the hammer from going forward if it received a hard enough blow. This was pretty quickly decided not to be a good/safe idea and that part was re-incorporated into the revolver and production reverted to the MkI*. Those guns manufactured as MkI** guns were still marked as such. I suspect yours has an FTR mark somewhere on the gun as it appears to have had suncorite applied to the cylinder and possibly elsewhere on the gun; the FTR mark was a "Factory Through Repair" mark that basically meant it saw a rebuild and suncorite was a sort of paint that was very commonly applied during an FTR. If you remove the side plate you can see whether there's a safety blocking bar installed in the gun. /u/DrakeGmbH posted some great photos illustrating the difference in /r/guns.
If you post more photos, I can try to ID more marks for you. Mark Stamps and Ian Skennerton's book .380 Enfield No 2 Revolver is by far the best book on the No.2 series of revolvers out there that I've managed to come across.
Most of those stamps you reference are the same as what would be found on a Carcano rifle.
Do you have any reference books? I can check mine later.
https://ironlegions.weebly.com/book-on-carcano-rifles-italys-battle-rifle.html
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764350811/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_1B80PE0M0T5FK6NZJZ89
Posting photos really helps too.
The Yugo Mausers are especially difficult to research as there's very little published information out there in English.
Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles by Branko Bogdanovic is hands down the best book on the subject of Yugo Mauser rifles and details the M25/52c, which is in effect just a refurbished VZ-24, most of the time at least.
Its 127 dollars on Amazon, which is a fairly good price. I've never seen a copy for sale under 100 dollars.
Here are serval links to pages with a lot of detail on Lee Enfield Rifles among others.
If you want a book, British Enfield Rifles, Vol. 1, SMLE (No.1) Mk I and Mk III is a very detailed book and inexpensive. It can be found digitally too from various sources online... some more legitimate than others...
/u/Enfield_Operator hit the nail on the head. This is a dispersal rifle, not a Lithgow produced rifle.
That’s my mistake. I was looking at the crown under RE marking near the Gardone VT marking.
I’ll consult my reference book tomorrow morning for you give you a definitive answer.
In the meantime if you’re looking to learn more about these rifles I’d consider purchasing this book:
The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History (0) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764350811/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_30TFEMBVZYC5Q6BGM90J
I would encourage you to buy a book on the subject if you're curious to learn a lot more. Poyer's book on the subject is cheap and has a lot of info in it: https://www.amazon.com/Model-Springfield-Rifle-Variations-Revised/dp/1882391306
I'll have to pull mine out to answer these questions with any certainty.
I don't have Bogdanović's book handy, but those dates sound correct.
Ebay will have a bunch of Yugo bayonets. They tend to bring 100 to 150 dollars as of late. They used to be fairly common but dried up and the prices went up when that happened.
I can recommend you Rifle & Carbine 98 by Dieter Storz; it's very well researched (the author visited numerous german state archives for primary sources and data) and shows the whole processes of development, production, refinement/model upgrading of certain parts, makers, problems and wartime shortage and rifle equipement (bayonets, ammo pouches, ammunition, etc.) very well and has lots of detailed color photos.
Online resources are a bit problematic IMO; you only find a small amount of info that was copied from someone else or is a short summary of reference books. So it's better to buy the books directly, even if the price might scare some people; but you have way more knowledge at hand instead of like 5+ different web sites.
I've used a hand clamp like this one to depress the band spring. I then take a brass punch and place it on the band and tap lightly at first, slowly increasing power of the taps. If the band is extremely stubborn, you can use some kroil in the gaps to try and loosen some of the gunk
You're welcome! The folks who operate that website sell a book that's been properly translated. Well worth it for the proper translation alone: https://www.amazon.com/Model-1891-Carcano-Rifle-Developmental/dp/0764350811
The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History, you can find it on Amazon here. Https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764350811/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_xKv5Fb3MXFW1A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 It's a very good book and very detailed
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I am using these, pretty good!
Ya know i do have snap caps for all , the ammo display would be cool , thanks!
No problem. I originally purchased this one to clean vintage motorcycle carburetor parts:
iSonic P4820-SPB25 Commercial Ultrasonic Cleaner 25-minute Timer, 2.6Qt/2.5L, WhiteColor, Plastic Basket, 110V https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HLBKNOY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_CEpVFbD3STV75?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I chose it for its large basin size and cost. For old firearms, the basin is big enough to hold bolt action magazines and trigger guards. I have used it successfully a bunch of times and clean it thoroughly after every use.
Looks like a Gardone produced M38 made in 1943. SPxxxx through TXxxx prefixes are recorded in that date range for that manufacturer. I feel as though that is a W and not a V that was double stamped considering it was done on both the stock and the barrel.
I am using production figures found in The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History by by Giovanni Chegia, Alberto Simonelli, and Ralph Riccio.
The Carcano series of rifles is actually pretty well documented. There are a few good books on the Carcano rifles. I have this particular book which I highly recommend
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0764350811/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_F5SPFbBKA4276
Some stuff isn't well documented just because original records are scarce that confirm what specific markings mean.
I don't know where Ian got that information but mine came directly from Patrick Hernandez who is a co-author of this book on Siamese weapons.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DMVV83C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_57hGFb1KWF873
They seem to be more common because they're basically wall hangers with the lack of ammo.
I also made this video comparing the two I have vs a Gew98 approximate.
Brescia 1894 production with a FAT refurb mark, likely from the early 20s. It's technically an antique, so not classified as a firearm. If you were ever to sell it, it doesn't need paperwork or need to go through an FFL. Marks on the stock would probably indicate more history, notably if it went through a post WWII refurb at Terni (FAT).
The Model 1891 Carcano Rifle: A Detailed Developmental and Production History is a great book on the Carcano, still in print, and still affordable.
There is no single "consolidated source" that's really worth much. Wikipedia is arguably the most concise and consolidated resource on the web for anything. You typically need a resource for a specific item if you want it to be in depth enough to be very valuable. Books are by far the most in depth source of info out there. Its unfortunate too... printed information is valuable but it severely limits who can see it and at what cost. I'm a big fan of free information online.
Handguns of the World is a surprisingly good book on the subject of handguns.
Short of any rebuild marks, there's not much specifically I can think of to go looking for right away. Pictures would help ID anything you find, otherwise research online or a good book on Carcano rifles would be helpful, This book in particular is what I have and I think its a great reference. Lots of information, lots of quality photos, and its still in print and priced reasonably.
I am actually very interested to see what this may be. I've got the Mauser Military Rifles of the World reference book and could't find anything similar to your crest.
I hadn't realized the book was out of print anymore... digital copies are still out there though if you wanted a copy cheap.
I got it for a steal, but I'm not rich enough nor do I have the reloading equipment to shoot it often. It's lighter than the other rifles, the sight is wonderful(A.A sights included) and the action is a smooth mauser bolt. All in all I like it but its mostly the show piece. I love the hooks, great deal on Amazon GOHIKING Gun Rack Shotgun Hooks Rifle Hangers Archery Bow Felt Lined Wall Mount Storage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y83TZFJ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_r2wtFb2VFVZBD
Look this up on Amazon:
Mannlicher Military Rifles: Straight Pull and Turn Bolt Designs
Scarlata, Paul S.
In short, yes. Foam isn't good for long term storage, it holds moisture. You can use dessicant, but those don't always do the job.
For long term, I'd get a firearm storage device with Zerust in it. My safe I keep my guns in a gunsock to keep them from banging on each other with an Eva Air rechargable dehumidifier and a Zerust capsule.
Thanks a lot for the link!
What do you think about this one?
I have a few of the P-64's and one of the Yugo Tokarevs. Fun guns. I put this grip on the P-64s and it makes them much more fun to shoot.