The warm Nagaoka MP-110 is often preferred over the 2M Blue and it costs less.
The new AT-VM95EN should be good.
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>Ortofon Red is the "industry standard"
Um no, it's over hyped.
If you must have Ortofon then the previous version Super OM 10 has a better cantilever and costs $20 less.
Audio-Technica AT-LP60X-BK is similar to the Aiwa but newer and improved. ANGELS HORN is a bit better.
Thanks for replying. I’ve been looking into a cork-rubber one on Amazon (Turntable Lab: Cork & Rubber Record Mat https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016L5OLCA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_KokLAbDC65YZH) . Didn’t have the VTA height on mind, thanks for that, I’ll be definitely looking into the thickness of my current one. Let you know what I decide! Thanks
I've had the art dj pre II from the start with no issues. Not sure if there is anything better for the price now but it was consensus when I got it. Only minor gripe is there is no off switch. So you either have to unplug it or just leave it on. It has bright LEDs so if it's in a bedroom you may have to cover it if you want total darkness.
https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPREII-Phono-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482
Thoughts on this one? Looks like it has Bluetooth out and built in speakers. Totally get what you are all saying about better quality sound with a separate system but before we invest in that I want to see if he’ll even like it… also we’re tight for space in the apartment at the moment
I have this Rolls and have been happy with it. It sounds great and is small.
Douk / Nobsound do passive switches, something like the Nobsound Little Bear MC1022 might do the trick. Not sure how well it will work with phono level output.
I purchased these a few months ago and they are awesome. There's a great video review on YouTube as well.Edifier Speakers
Here's a picture of the inputs. It has an RCA, and I was thinking of using an aux to RCA adapter like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D5H8JW0/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_i_QC2HS8WMTBZ3A694JNS6
Any recommendations for vintage turntables or where to buy them? I'm not necessarily opposed to buying used but, I don't know much about TTs or what to look for when buying used. Would I need any other components to make them work?
Deal: Fosi Audio BT20A Bluetooth Amplifier, Mini Hi-Fi Stereo Amp Integrated Receiver for Home Audio Passive Speakers, BT 5.0 Class D 2.0 Channels, 100W x 2 TPA3116 Chip, Treble & Bass Control Knob https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BQC7GNL/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_dl_DPEWENRKM318Q79VQTX9
That makes sense. I will be using it short term because I dont really have anything else at the moment but next payday I'm gonna try and order something new.
My thought is, this system comes with a stereo integrated amplifier, and I have some RCA brand speakers connected.
I think I want to continue using the amplifier (and the speaker for now, but I do have some better ones picked out that I'm planning on buying). Do you think it'll still work if I buy a turntable with an integrated pre amp? I was thinking the AT - LP60X which has a switchable preamp since I've heard such good things. If you know anything better in the price range though, I'm all ears!
Here are the speakers I was going to buy as well, for reference.
Likely discontinued. It looks like it's a rebranded AT-LP50 or AT-LP60 that are also both discontinued.
The new X version AT-LP60X has some improvements.
The manual Victrola VPRO-2000 $159 adds adjustable tracking force, a removable cartridge, pitch control, Quartz lock, a stroboscopic platter and USB and Bluetooth output.
I have a pair of Edifier speakers with my turntable, they work very well and I don’t use an amp. Here is a link to some Edifier’s I found on Amazon for under $100.. I think these should work!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXDZ8WB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_AJBN5WVPGZXASQNDHSW3
Amps are not hard to deal with.
Powered speakers starting at $55 and passive speakers and a mini amp staring at $75.
Or what is a Craiglist or nearby zip code to search for used speaker options?
For the turntable the manual Victrola VPRO-2000 $149 adds adjustable tracking force, a removable cartridge, pitch control, Quartz lock, a stroboscopic platter and USB and Bluetooth output over the AT-LP60X.
Thanks! Reviews look great minus the fact it has an obnoxious power light that's always on.
This one looks similar. What are your thoughts? Fosi Audio Box X2 Phono Preamp for Turntable Preamplifier MM Phonograph Preamplifier with Gain Gear Mini Stereo Audio Hi-Fi Pre-Amplifier for Record Player with DC 12V Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XNTHHBP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_NKFF2R84CGBH94PT3W22?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Or $60 to $70 more for the better Monolith by Monoprice Turntable with AT3600 $199 that costs $100 less than the similar AT-LPW30TK.
Or if $200 is too much then Victrola VPRO-2000 $149 adds adjustable tracking force, a removable cartridge, pitch control, Quartz lock and a stroboscopic platter over the AT-LP60X.
Are you sure the speaker is turned off or unpaired from the turntable?'
If you can't get the turntable to pair then you could connect a $42 Bluetooth transmitter to the turntable that will hopefully pair with the headphones.
Amazon. Get the multi kit with the grease and the various little bottles. It seems expensive but unless you are a commercial shop it will last years. I'm a ham radio, radio rescue and tinker with old cars and I use the deoxit stuff on everything.
For $10 more the manual Victrola VPRO-2000 $149 adds adjustable tracking force, a removable cartridge, pitch control, Quartz lock and a stroboscopic platter over the automatic AT-LP60X.
Plus speakers if you don't already have any.
The Fluance doesn't have a preamp so you'll need to use one. Since you don't have an amplifier, you'll need a line level volume control at the output of the preamp. You can buy a phono preamp that has a volume control built in, for example like this one.
Another option would be to use the preamp that you already have which I'm guessing does not have a built-in volume control, and add another line level volume control between its output connectors and your active speakers. You can buy this single-tasker gadget as well - here's an example.
Yep, the new improved X version automatic AT-LP60X is now $139 if it can be found in stock. For $10 more the manual Victrola VPRO-2000 $149 adds adjustable tracking force, a removable cartridge, pitch control, Quartz lock and a stroboscopic platter.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07H918TNW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 its this if you wanna have a look at it
i'd probably recommend replacing the cartridge. quality replacement for the 12s are pretty expensive. i have one too sitting here with a bad stylus in it.
it is a very nice table for sure! and i know you'll enjoy the heck out of it. lots of folks like this guy for quality vs. price:
the vm95e from audio technica. i also enjoy this one:
https://www.lpgear.com/product/CF95SE.html
carbon version of the 95e.
it's such a nice table.. i think you'll be pretty happy with either of those carts.
and get some speakers you're happy with!!
You could power the 803 with a mini amp that is basically what is inside the 801PM.
Pyle BDA20BT $46.
Pyle PFA330BT $29.
Alright so I'm thinking you could use this, by running an hdmi cable from the tv to the 'hdmi in' slot, an hdmi cable from the 'hdmi out' slot to the Sonos, and connecting RCA cables from the turntable's pre-amp to the L and R ports.
This is assuming that you are planning on using a pre-amp, if this seems feasible/makes no sense let me know.
Are you in the Eu ?
You're welcome. The Fosi and Tibo SIA50 have Bluetooth built in. Or for the Tibo Ti435 connect an Echo Dot for better WiFi streaming with voice control and it's also a Bluetooth receiver. Plus a 3.5mm to RCA cable.
Thanks! What do you think about this one btw: https://www.amazon.com/Viborg-Stabilizer-Turntable-Vibration-Balanced/dp/B01M5HM428
Is it legitimate?
Also, be aware that most of the devices sold on Amazon as "record clamps" are actually record weights or stabilizers. A true record clamp is screwed down and couples the disc to the platter by affixing to the spindle, and doesn't add much weight at all. This is the one I use: Record Doctor Turntable Clamp
My linear technics needed a new belt for the tonearm and the rail the tonearm runs on needed all the old lube removed and Teflon dry lube replacing it. https://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon-Silicone-Lubricant-Squeeze/dp/B00BCVXUVM
Wanted to add one more thing. I think the scale you have is probably fine, but I just remembered that I previously had that scale and I returned it to get a different scale that seemed to be slightly lower and perhaps closer to the height that a record will be. The reviews for the scale you already have seems to indicate that it’s fine, but I ultimately decided to use a different scale. Here’s a link to the scale I settled on. Riverstone Audio Record-Level Turntable Stylus Tracking Force Gauge/Scale, 0.005g Resolution, Measures VTF at Correct LP Record Level Height (2 mm to 3 mm) Color: Graphite https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B076DFZDS4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_650QN8KM6GFPG5MRG8H5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Looks like the JBL Etreme 2 has a 3.5mm Aux input!
You would connect it to the AT-LP60X with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable since the AT-LP60X has 3.5mm output.
Other turntables with RCA output would use an RCA to 3.5mm cable or adapter.
That's one pricey small portable speaker!
A nice compact pair of home audio speakers are 4" Jamo S 801 PM ~~$299~~ $149 with Bluetooth on sale.
Yes duds do happen.
The AT-LP60X is automatic easy setup beginner plug and play and fine to start with.
Do you need the Bluetooth version? The version without costs $50 less!
Or the 1byOne is a nicer manual turntable with a nice MDF plinth instead of the hollow plastic AT-LP60X.
If you return it a nicer manual turntable for not much more is the [1byOne](https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Turntable-Wireless-Connectivity-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B07S5XSTCW) $144 adds adjustable tracking force and a removable cartridge if you are comfortable with learning how to balance the tonearm and setting the tracking force. Watch some YouTube videos.
Update: so i decided to add these straps to the lid: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DQBJQF4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00
Here's hoping that keeps him out.
Suitcase or cheap all in one, not good.
They do sell better component turntables such as the Crosley C10 $291 which is designed by Pro-ject, see the Pro-ject tonearm on it, and is basically an Essential III for lower cost.
AT-VMN95*C* and AT-N3600L have a conical tip diamond and can be helpful for worn records.
There are a few elliptical tip upgrades available for the AT-3600 cartrdige.
AT-VMN95*E* and 2M Red have an elliptical tip diamond that fits in the grooves better for better sound fidelity.
Next step up is the AT-VM95*EN*.
The Super OM10 is the previous version of the 2M Red, the OM10 costs $20 less, and the OM10 is just as good if not a bit better.
The Nagaoka MP-110 is often preferred over the 2M Blue and the 110 costs less.
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What cartridge do you have now, what is everything in your setup to match a cartridge too, TT, phono, amp, speakers?
AT-VM95E is a great choice at $69.
AT-VM95SH seems to be the top end over the ML, or at least in price.
For Ortofon the Super OM10 can be purchased for $20 less than the newer version 2M Red.
Sometimes 2 Bluetooth devices just won't connect to each other.
Neither the TV or ARC are designed to work with an analog turntable.
You could try an RCA to HDMI Converter to connect to the TV or ARC.
Ideally get a stereo or home theater system that is designed to work with both digital audio sources such as a TV and turntable. Usually an AV receiver with 2, 3 or 5 or more passive speakers or a stereo receiver or integrated amp and a pair of speakers.
Or a pair of powered speakers.
yes you can strip the wire back or just bend the flanges so make it fit. grounding is just making a path for current to flow
could use one of these as well.
As the others say it doesn't make a huge amount of difference. I use this https://amz.run/4lCh to connect my preamp to my Sonos. The build quality is decent and it looks better than some of the super cheap options, so that would be my recommendation.
Scales are pretty cheap. I got this one, works fine:
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Sometimes 2 Bluetooth devices just won't pair.
Have you considered connecting the turntable to the sound bar with an audio cable? If the soundbar does not have an analog RCA or 3.5mm input and only has a digital optical input you will need an Analog to Digital Audio Converter.
Yes good to start with for a good price, it's the same model as I listed, just matte black instead of gloss black. Amazon.de has it for less if that's an option.
Thank you all for the help guys, the turntable seems to work just fine but the speakers are the problem. So..for the same price of the speakers I can buy this new turntable, is it worth it or should I stick to the Aiwa I have?
You need a headphone amplifier with at least one pair of RCA input jacks for the turntable, and a pair of RCA output jacks for the speakers.
Here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Turntable-Preamplifier-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B07P8QM1YK I don't own one of these but it looks like it would work. Note that you'll need to switch to the cartridge level output on the turntable (not preamplified) if you use this, since it has an internal preamp.
Pass on overpriced digital Sonos for analog vinyl. You can add streaming to anything without it that has a line / aux input by connecting a $15 Bluetooth receiver or for WiFi streaming a $29 Echo Dot with convenient voice control or turn the mic off and use phone or tablet control.
Old version, use this cable. Stereo Audio Y-Cable - 3.5mm Male to 2X RCA Female - Headphone Jack to RCA – Computer / MP3 to Stereo 1x Mini-Jack 2X RCA (MUMFRCA)
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What model speakers are those?
Old LP60 or new X version LP60X?
New X version has 3.5mm output so you need a 3.5mm to 3.5mm aux cable.
If you can't figure it out, Technolink TCC TC-750LC $49, also available at Amazon, is supposedly a bit better and does not have the issues that the ART DJ sometime has.
New $215:
Stereo Receiver: Sony STR-DH190 $149 has a built in phono stage preamp
Passive Speakers: 6.5" Dayton Audio B652-AIR with AMT Tweeter $63 shipped then optionally upgrade to better speakers later.
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What is the rest of your setup? If your speakers are basic entry level then upgrade the speakers first or along with a stylus upgrade.
Audio-Technica AT-VMN95EN $99.
Audio-Technica AT-VMN95ML $149 may reduce sibilance the most however you need to make sure your cartridge alignment is very precise do id does not damage your vinyl.
Turntable > Nobsound Little Bear MC2 > Rokit 5 G4
Scarlett 2i2 > Nobsound Little Bear MC2 > Rokit 5 g4
I like direct drive turntables, my vote would be for the Audio-Technica
If that's a conical tip stylus then Audio Technica ATN95E upgrades to elliptical tip.
2M Blue is over hyped and overpriced. Just upgrade the stylus if you need to upgrade, Audio-Technica AT-VMN95EN, then you don't need to do a cartridge alignment.
Or a new cartrdige Audio-Technica AT-VM95E.
That model uses the Chuo Denshi CZ-800 ceramic cartridge, so the recommended diamond stylus (needle) replacement is the Pfanstiehl 793-D7M: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JJ73DP8
The tonearm was pre-adjusted at the factory so you don't need to adjust it yourself.
And yes, those RCA speaker cables will work, or you can get RCA plug to spring terminal adapters.
It's a solid state preamp with tube buffers mostly for show. It's not necessarily any better than any other solid state preamp for around the same price.
The Technolink TCC TC-750LC $49 has an adjustable gain dial, also available at Amazon, and may be just as good or a bit better for $15 less.
Try buying both and return the loser if you can even tell a difference.
Crosley C6 ~~$179~~ on sale for $123 to $146 adds adjustable tracking force and replaceable cartridge over the LP60X.
Fluance RT80 ~~$199~~ $175 with coupon code "FLUCAT". Adds auto stop and adjustable anti-skate.
Don't bother with the Teac TN-180BT.
Do you need a DJ cartridge?
If not, Audio-Technica AT-VM95E.
What I think you have there is a Pioneer PL-12D. The boxy font makes the D look like a 0.
Here's a picture of what the back of one should look like, with the cables (the fact that this one is red/white and yours is red/yellow doesn't matter).
Your ebay seller either has no idea what they're talking about, is flat out lying, or both.
In the 80s there were some mini systems, where the turntable, tape deck and receiver all shared a power plug (usually on the receiver itself). Each individual piece was designed to only work in the system, so they had weird little plugs to connect them together. This is not part of one of those systems.
As a standalone turntable, your left/right/ground cables plug into either a separate phono preamp, or an amp/receiver with a phono connection. Those cables take sound from the turntable to the amp. The turntable still needs power though. It still needs to plug into the wall. In the first photo there is a wire that clearly has the ends cut and stripped. That shouldn't exist. Someone cut the power plug off the end of that wire.
A little late, but in case you haven't found it yet, you'll need a Bluetooth transmitter with TX mode. Something like this Ldex device. I'm sure there are ones with better build or quality, but it should at least get you started on your search.
Good luck! Enjoy your records!
This is your 4th post on the subject. Stop beating a dead horse.
Between the 2 options get the RT80 which is a better turntable. Don't buy the plasticity automatic AT-LP3.
Get the RT80 if you must buy a $200 turntable and can't wait longer to get a better $300 turntable. Try $10 off coupon code "TENSAVEV40Q".
The manual RT80 with auto stop is a better turntable than the automatic LP3. The RT80 has lower wow and flutter and and a nicer MDF plinth instead of plastic on the LP3.
The AT-LP3 is basically an LP60 with the same motor that adds adjustable tracking force and a replaceable cartridge.
Also consider saving up for the newer and better RT82 that adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation. Pass on the RT81 that like the RT80 lacks the speed sensor.
Or start with just the speakers and receiver for now and add the turntable later.
Or get a starter turntable, Crosley C6 on sale for $123 or $136 that is close enough to an RT80 and adds adjustable tracking force and replaceable cartridge over the LP60X. Then upgrade to an LP120X or Fluance RT82 later.
If the Technics SL-D2 already has a cartridge you can usually just replace the stylus.
If not, Gemini CN-15 is $19 plus shipping or the better Audio-Technica AT-VM95E is $49.
Here is an example of what you are looking for. If you check your local charity shops/pawn shops/classifieds you can probably find one on the cheap.
I'm not an expert but it sounds like your stylus could use replacing. A replacement stylus for that is $45... which I wouldn't recommend since I have the same cartridge and it wasn't great sounding. ...and it has to be 25+ years old or so at this point. I'm assuming this is for the Yamaha? Anyway it's hard to beat the AT-VM95E for the price. You'd have to spend over $100 to get anything better sounding (in my opinion). Let me know your budget. It's quite possible that it wasn't set up right or could just be dirty.
Some kind of Audio Technica, possibly a AT91 what does it say on the top?
Have you adjusted the gain on the Art DJ Pre? Some also say it has noise. Try a Technolink TCC TC-750LC $49 instead, also available at Amazon.
I make my cleaning fluid very cheaply; 150ml distilled water (found in the local pharmacies as injectable water, 50ml rubbing alcohol >90º (the kind I get at the pharmacy is 96º) plus 2 or 3 drops of dishwashing soap, preferably clear and unscented but it's so little that it really doesn't matter). Put in a plastic or glass aftershave atomizer and shake well.
Amazon sells a variety of carbon fiber LP cleaning brushes. I presently have a Blucoil Carbon Fiber antistatic brush that works very well. About $10 and they last. There's another brand that I've used, VinylStyl. Both seem about the same.
BTW, you can get some large microfiber carwash cloths (I find CarBrite brand at my local AutoZone) . Put your LP on one in a table, spray the LP generously taking care not to wet the label, let it act for a couple of minutes and use another to dry the record with gentle circular motions. Then place on the platter and start it at the highest speed your deck handles (mine does 78RPM) and brush it with centerward motions. Likely it will come out sounding better than new.
You don't need to pay extra for Bluetooth in the turntable since digitally compressed Bluetooth for analog vinyl is a bit silly.
Get Audio Technica LP60X £119 and connect to the speakers with the included RCA cable.
Then just use the Bluetooth in the speakers to play from your smartphone.
this is sold by micca which would enable you to use those speakers, and a few other options to round out your experience.
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well, that's more than i've ever spent for a cart! what is on it now? can you post a pic of the table? i'm not familiar with this model... assuming it's standard mount... i like the ortofon series..
these work very nicely with technics direct drive tables, IMO.
Here:
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/jvc/l-a55.shtml
You'll need to sign up for a free account to download the user manual. It looks like someone has not uploaded the service manual - you won't need it anyway unless you are doing any repairs/major troubleshooting.
Vinyl Engine is a great resource. Look through their database and tools. If you have questions, you can go the forum there as well. Much better moderated than mostly me.
Most turntables need a preamp. Some inexpensive ones build it in, but the old ones did not because most vintage receivers have a phono preamp built in. Which receivers? If it says "Phono" on any of the inputs, it HAS a preamp. If it says "Aux", or "Tape", or "Line In" or ANYTHING else, it does not have a preamp. Luckily you can get a preamp for as little as $25 here.