I started Japanese in Duolingo but I was very frustrated with the lack of explanations of grammar. I felt like things changed for no apparent reason and I couldn't make sense of it.
I ran into this app and it completely changed my outlook on Japanese grammar. It has very simple step-by-step tutorials and it plays just like Duolingo.
Give it a whirl and see what you think!
I can't speak for mango languages, but duolingo for Korean is not very good at all. Lingodeer is a popular choice, and there's also the Sejong Institute apps. Check the sidebar as well, as apps only take you so far, and you'll need more study materials after you've finished with them.
If you like language apps, Lingodeer is perfect for you. It’s easily the best app for learning Chinese, Japanese, Korean or Vietnamese.
There are two free online resources that have everything a beginner needs to learn Korean. Talk To Me In Korean is a funny and entertaining podcast with 175 episodes of Korean grammar at an easy pace. How to Study Korean is like a personal teacher that will take a complete beginner to fluency and thoroughly explain everything along the way.
The only app that actually teaches Japanese is Human Japanese. The others you listed are more for memorisation/revision. They're tools that on their own won't really teach you, but can be used to reinforce concepts. If you must use such an app LingoDeer is probably the best.
Better than all of those, however, would be a textbook. Genki and Minna no Nihongo are the two go-tos. Genki is better for self-learners. I prefer Minna no Nihongo, but it will be difficult without a teacher or a solid understanding of the basics.
How long do you have to learn?
Was gonna tell you to get a hobby but I saw your only other string of comments
> im here to fight ableists because im bored and pissed
god, get a different hobby. try learning a skill. maybe a language, since you have so much time on your hands. lingodeer has a lot of languages and they teach in a more intuitive way than duolingo.
LingoDeer for the app.
The best advice for language learning in general is consistent study. Set aside time everyday and stay at it.
I always recommend learning the language you will use the most and have the opportunity to use. Are there immigrant communities of speakers of these languages close to you? If so, I would choose that one.
Strictly for financial / business reasons, I would probably choose Mandarin, it's the biggest language by far and their role in the region is ever-increasing.
Personally, I would choose Korean because I love their script.
Send them an email. Their privacy policy explicitly allow for you to correct your email.
>This notwithstanding, the user has the right at all times to demand the correction of any inaccurate data concerning him/her stored with LingoDeer.
No need to feel insecure!
Japanese doesn't really work that way. Like, "a" is ア, so that works, but in a name like ポケモン (Pokemon) the first character ポ is actually two characters in English "po". Also, since there are two phonetic syllabaries called "katakana" and "hiragana," the sound "a" can also be あ. And then you have kanji, which are Chinese characters used in Japanese, and that confuses things even more.
If you like Japanese enough to want to put it on your phone's wallpaper, why not learn some? I recommend the app LingoDeer and the textbook series called Genki.
I wish I would've started learning Japanese at 14.
It doesn't have as many languages, but have you tried LingoDeer?
They do have more languages than they indicate on their web page. If you're learning from English, they have French, German, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Russian, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.
Onestamente il corso di giapponese di Duolingo è atroce. Sento il bisogno fisico di sconsigliarlo ogniqualvolta venga nominato. Molto più ordinato ed efficace, per un'infarinatura generale, è LingoDeer https://www.lingodeer.com
Lingodeer app (best Duolingo/Memrise-esque app for Japanese) is offering Full Lifetime Access for $20 through the 26th. (available android/iphone/ipad/tablets)
They just recently went from free to paid so it's unclear how much of a discount this is... their new pricing has been all over the place. But this $20 for lifetime access is the same amount as the annual subscription cost, so good deal if you're still N5 and/or want the ability to study Chinese/Vietnamese/Korean there too.
As others have said, ㅇ only makes an "ng" sound when at the end of a syllable - all other times it is silent.
Where have you been learning to read Hangul? As another near-complete newbie I struggled to get to grips with pronouncing the alphabet until I used the Talk To Me In Korean introduction series which was a huge help! The Lingodeer app is also really comprehensive at demonstrating the sounds of each letter combination using their alphabet charts.
Hopefully those give you some answers beyond your original question, which seems to be pretty comprehensively answered now!
If you have a smart device, I'd highly recommend using the app LingoDeer! If you are familiar with the language learning app DuoLingo, it functions in a very similar way. It can strengthen vocabulary and grammar skills by teaching through reading, writing, listening, and speaking. It also follows a structured course of several lessons, and it is all completely free (at least last time I checked)! https://www.lingodeer.com
Since you're so young, you might start out with Lingodeer instead? It only covers the basics (which is still quite a lot of content, and will take you awhile to get through). The course is structured in a very hands-on way and each lesson includes very simply-worded explanations with several examples.
If you end up liking LingoDeer, it's $80 USD for a yearlong subscription. That might sound like a lot, but it's realistically the cost of 5-10 1:1 lessons, and Lingodeer offers a lot more content than you would cover in 5-10 lessons.
You'll have to develop consistent study habits to finish the course -- and if you do, then take your high-beginner level of Korean and your good study habits and go to a private tutor.
> Meanwhile in Japanese, still waiting for the stories we were promised by the new year... or the tree 5.0 that started to roll-out in january...
Duolingo doesn't work well for languages using a non-Latin based script anyway. Try the Bunpo app - it’ll break down the Hiragana in groups for you and I find it a lot easier to digest.
That's gonna be too complicated to ELI5. The wheel is already invented so rather than trying to simplify syntax to ELI5-10, might I suggest some good starting points for grammar instead?
Maybe look into the Talk to Me In Korean lessons for some learning structure (and maybe the Korean Grammar In Use Textbook if you find your family don't/can't explain specific grammar points) and supplement the lessons with practicing with your family!
If you're set on using an app as part of your study routine, check out Lingodeer, it's generally recommended around this subreddit because they tend to explain grammar and provide little comprehension quizzes at the end of units. I don't tend to use it as part of my daily study routine but I do use it when I'm on the train or flying etc. Good luck!
Thank you.
links:
LingoDeer https://www.lingodeer.com/learn-languages/cn/en/learn-chinese-online (looks a lot like DuoLingo)
YoyoChinese: https://www.yoyochinese.com/landing (looks different)
https://www.lingodeer.com/learn-languages/vt/en/learn-vietnamese-online and https://www.duolingo.com/course/vi/en/Learn-Vietnamese are both a decent start.
I like learnkorean101 for Korean, not sure how good the vietnamese one is, but it is here: https://www.vietnamesepod101.com/
Have a look at Lingodeer as well. Dont be misled by their website (it was originally developed for Chinese, Japanese and Korean), it also has Spanish. https://www.lingodeer.com/
/r/Korean has a ton of useful resources in the sidebar. Generally you want to start off with some sort of curriculum: talk to me in korean, lingodeer, how to study korean (although wait until you have a bit more than just hangul under your belt to use htsk, the early explanations aren't very good if you're completely beginner.)
If you can get your hands on some books, there's Korean Made Simple, Korean Grammar in Use, the Yonsei, Ehwa or Integrated Korean textbook series, all of which are very high quality.
Hey, if you want to learn Brazilian Portuguese, here's a good app: https://www.lingodeer.com/
The PT course was just launched and we are searching for Beta testers!
I'ts a free language learning app, with fun lessons and audio, it might really help you in your quest! What do you think?
Boa sorte! ~
Hello! if you're interested in learning Brazilian Portuguese, here's a good app: https://www.lingodeer.com/
The PT course was just launched and we are searching for Beta testers! Please, check it out!
What do you think?^^