I actually really enjoy the multimedia presentation and website previews within Slack, plus the consistent look and feel across multiple OSes is nice (I run Windows in a VM on a Mac at the office, and have an Android phone) Built-in file and image hosting with sharing permissions is nice as well. It's easy to set up a Slack team and invite people as well. I'm sure I could learn to set up an IRC server on my VPS in a few hours, but Slack took 10 minutes.
My experiences with IRC in the past have mostly been: "Well, it's free and open source, that's cool." It has never struck me as being a very polished experience. I'm sure it could be made very nice, but then you'd end up with something like Slack or one of its alternatives anyway.
The fact that IRC exists doesn't make Slack bad, they're just putting a new coat of paint on the same concept. A lot of people just happen to really like this color is all. :)
Mattermost team here. We did a bunch of testing on the name before choosing it, asking people from different industries and backgrounds what came to mind with the word.
We were looking for something that gave a sense of discussions in Mattermost being effective and productive, and when we gave the name with the context about being software used in teams, the majority of reactions reflected the intended meaning.
There were clusters of feedback that said "Mattermost" brought to mind a family-oriented product, as well as a data-centered, analytics-style product, and those meanings were okay with us.
And, yes, there were a few folks, for whom "Matterhorn" came to mind immediately :)
If anyone wants to try it out, Mattermost installs in one line with Docker and there's a range of install guides
Read more about features here.
You could try FOSS Slack alternatives like Mattermost or Let's Chat. Here's a pretty objective comparison including those two and a few others I found with a quick Google search.
Or, if you're feeling a little more old-school, you could set up a private IRC. It's a little more involved to set up correctly (so your server doesn't get taken over by a botnet) but it also offers a lot of flexibility WRT client and server software, and there's loads of various useful bots out there as well.
Layshift offers Mattermost hosting on Jelastic and beyond Linux installs there's Heroku, Cloud Foundry, Puppet, Docker and other install options as well..
At work I use Microsoft Lync which as most of the features you are looking for. You can share desktop, but it is not a replacement for remote assistance.
Slack would be nice if you would like to have groups and http://www.mattermost.org/ is an opensource alternative (which I have never used).
> IP can get you ddos-ed and get your ass on a SWJ list
Pretty sure I'm on all those lists, and why would you DDoS a domestic IP? I can just reset my IP lol.
> if you are lazy to do anything like that just use http://www.mattermost.org/
Yeah, there are far better services.
> Mattermost is an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative
> As an alternative to proprietary SaaS messaging, Mattermost brings all your team communication into one place, making it searchable and accessible anywhere. It’s written in Golang and React and runs as a production-ready Linux binary under an MIT license with either MySQL or Postgres.
> (http://www.mattermost.org/)
I'd never heard of it. Looks cool. I'm glad someone cares enough to create a free alternative.
Ultimately the reason anybody still uses IRC isn't that they prefer the limitations of 512-char ASCII messages, it's that IRC is the only protocol that succeeded in building a network infrastructure without being, as was put elsewhere in this thread, a proprietary walled garden.
Major corporations have been trying to "de-commodify" chat protocols for decades -- millions of dollars has been put into it. It's something that ought to be fought against actively.
http://www.mattermost.org/ is one of the oos alternatives that gained some traction. they are also working on voice integration which should it put on par even with discord, if you have someone to run the application on their server.
nah I dont trust slack, but thanks. it has lot of closed source parts and is centralized, I rather old IRC or mattermost that is open. :) http://www.mattermost.org/ we have a channel some people in SF chat.binaryfreedom.info forming a DefCon415 group
There's Mattermost: an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative, which IMO is already better than Slack and they just keep adding features. It's Slack-compatible, too so if you like those integrations, you can keep them.
Thanks for the explanation!
Sounds good that the closest thing is Basecamp. How do you compare Agorakit to Basecamp? Is there a feature-by-feature comparison?
> I still need to write down what would be useful
I know for me and some other teams, the ability to sync calendars and contacts via CalDAV and CardDAV would be the top feature wish. Another amazing feature would be seamless integration with freedom-respecting Slack-replacement team chats such as Riot.im or Mattermost. Thirdly, make events super easy for non-registered users to discover and respond to, including e.g. easy RSVP, commenting, asking questions with granular control for the event administrator for each.
I am not a developer at all but would love to help! Maybe have a clear "how to help" page on the website?
Slack is awesome, but some people are moving to discord because it offers voice chat and has better role based access control than Slack. IMO, once MatterMost is in a better state, I think people will start using it since people will be able to integrate their own auth services into their own "slack" instance.
Well, the UI is strongly Slack-like.
What's the value proposition over Slack? Or it's more PM oriented competitors (Hipchat, Flow, Asana, etc)?
People shouldn't hang their hat on Zapier. It's not integration. It's unidirectional-hand-hackery-as-a-service. Another company's service, to boot. And more intermediary servers.
Given they do it in the aggregate - but many think this is a direct violation of your ethical obligations to maintain client privacy and confidences. Hence the advent of a platform specifically designed for the legal industry.
If this is your whole pitch, I'd be worried. I have old school attitudes for an atty my age, but even I would acknowledge that these concerns are largely being left behind. Also -- doesn't this go out the window when you rely on Zapier?
Furthermore, the state bar opinions that are out there include the size, stability and sophistication of the host in the factors an attorney should evaluate in vetting communications platforms, cloud storage, etc. Google, Slack, and companies like that fit the bill better than some fly-by-night. (Your corporate address appears to be a residence.)
Many organizations find it much easier to separate their internal means of communication from external.
Corporate intranets and groupware are nothing new in 2016. They were nothing new in 2006 -- or 1996, for that matter. (Remember Lotus Notes?)
Your SEO is working at least -- kinda -- you're the second result if I google 'slack IRC GPL'.
At first I thought there was no community edition, or github. I'm not sure why that wasn't mentioned in your OP....except for the obvious reason that money is nice.
You can use the commandline tool to create user accounts: http://docs.mattermost.com/administration/command-line-tools.html
If you're looking for functionality beyond this, contributing feature ideas is highly appreciated: http://www.mattermost.org/feature-requests/