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Importing is only a way to make darktable aware that pictures exist in a folder. Such pictures will be referenced in dt's database (the library). If any other piece of soft changes these pictures externaly (delete, move, rename), darktable is not notified of the change.
> Can't I set darktable to just watch a folder (my photo library folder for example) and just show new files as they come along?
No. There are issues associated with this design, not to mention performance penalty at startup, in general it is not advisable. However, you can re-import folders you already imported (manually, that is) and this will get you the result you want (new pics will be added, old ones will just be kept as-is).
See also https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/
The order the modules are applied is fixed by the program and the order shown in the user interface reflects that. It can't be changed.
Maybe, just maybe you could do this in darktable if you put in a lot of effort, but to be honest I seriously doubt it.
Luckily this is a full sized jpeg so there's something to work with. Hope this is to your liking: https://fromsmash.com/red-car-window-fix
This was done with Krita.
There are 2 reasonable ways and 1 kinda stupid way that I can think of to do this.
One is to create a copy of the image in the Dark Table, which will treat the copy just like any other image, allowing you to edit it separately.
I think this feature is called "Duplicate", just go to the lighttable, select your image and hit Ctrl + D. Bam! you got a copy. (Note: This also copies the history stack.)
The other way is to create a custom 'style'. If these are edits you make a lot, this is the way to go. I don't actually remember how to do this. maybe this is the link: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s08.html.php
And, the 3rd, kinda stupid way to do this is to have another image you don't care about. Take your image, go to the lighttable mode, and in the history stack area, hit 'copy all', select your other image, and 'paste all'. Now you are using that other image to 'save' the settings from the first one. This way is not recommended.
Bit depth
The number of bits used for each color channel. More bits means less posterization/color banding. from this section
I believe by default the files get put into a subfolder titled darktable_export, check in there for your photo. It will be exported in the format that you have selected (jpeg, TIFF, etc). In the export module under the File Name box at the top you can specify the location that the files are exported to, and what the name is. The XMP file stores what modules and their settings have been used to transform the raw/input file to your finished product. The Darktable user manual is pretty good at explaining all of this and I recommend you have a read here. There's also hundreds of videos on youtube for getting started with Darktable. Personally I enjoy Bruce Williams on youtube here.
thats normal for new cameras... if its the same sensor as the x-t3 just rename the camera model with "exiftool" to x-t3 - until the x-t4 is supported...
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more details about camera support here: https://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats-involved-with-adding-support-for-new-cameras/
Have you checked out Chapter 2. Lighttable?
Here's a snippet:
> In the center of the bottom panel you have an option to choose between > zoomable lighttable view or filemanager view of the thumbnails. In zoomable > lighttable view, scroll with your mouse wheel to zoom in and out. Moving the > mouse while pressing the left mouse button allows you to navigate through > your collection. In filemanager view, you can can change the number of > images in each row, using the slider next to the filemanager option, or by > using ctrl-(mouse wheel). Use your mouse wheel to navigate through your > collection.
It also mentions some keyboard commands, these in particular might be of use to you:
z- fully zoom into the image while the key is pressedctrl-z- fully zoom into the image and show areas in focus
From: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch01.html.php
> darktable keeps image information in an sqlite database for fast access. The default location of that database file is “$HOME/.config/darktable/library.db”
In lighttable mode on the right, there should be a panel called "export selected". Just be sure to set the export location as "file on disk" and to a location you're familiar with. Then probably JPEG (8-bit) and whatever quality and image size options you want and hit "export" at the bottom. The exported image with all those settings will then be put wherever you set the location in that panel to be. My export location is is D:\\pictures\\exports\\camera\\by-date\\$(EXIF_YEAR)-$(EXIF_MONTH)-$(EXIF_DAY)-$(EXIF_HOUR)-$(EXIF_MINUTE)-$(EXIF_SECOND).
Have you tried $(FILE_NAME) instead of $(SEQUENCE). I don’t use this function but but it looks like $(SEQUENCE) uses sequential numbering to denote the order in which the files have been imported. FIRST_IMAGE_0001.jpg is imported first and xxx_0002.RAF is imported second.
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/3.6/en/special-topics/variables/
It never makes a copy, it uses a sidecar file to store the "edits" to the photo that are only applied on export.
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https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/3.6/en/overview/sidecar-files/sidecar/
You're using Windows, so you need this part from the darktable website: Install Microsoft Windows
The download link points to the latest exe version (3.6.0.1 for win64).
Why are you recommending the RGB curve module for adjusting contrast when it is a display-referred module? It is under the "Modules to avoid" section of the scene-referred workflow described in the user manual found here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/workflow/edit-scene-referred/
Does it even run Linux? If not it may be a while until someone who is both a MacOSX user and has their newest laptop appears and is willing to build and package it.
The instructions on https://www.darktable.org/install/#macos say good luck and that's from the x86-64 era.
Not a hundred percent sure it'll work, but maybe in preferences? There's a section to change your default shortcuts.
This might be useful too: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/shortcuts.html
If you really want to nail the SoC jpeg looks in darktable and are willing to spend a little time to do so, darktable-chart is a great tool: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/darktable_chart.html
This is a long shot, but make a copy of your raw file, and try editing the EXIF data on the image to an older camera that is supported.
This might sort of work.
Another long shot option can be found here: https://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats-involved-with-adding-support-for-new-cameras/ but it's way more work, and pretty complicated.
The Darktable manual itself recommends the levels module over the exposure module for black point adjustment:
> A black level adjustment is a basic tool to increase contrast and pop of an image. The value defines at what threshold dark gray values are cut off to pure black. Use with care as the clipped values can not be recovered in other modules further down the pixelpipe. Please also have a look at the tone curvemodule (see Section 3.4.2.3, “Tone curve”) and the levels module (see Section 3.4.2.2, “Levels”) which can produce similar results with less side effects as they come later in pixelpipe.
There is the snapshot feature which accomplishes roughly what you want to do but in a different way. It works on all monitor sizes, although it doesn't seem quite as convenient as what you described.
In that case, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mendhak.gpslogger seems to have decent reviews and doesn't seem to rely on online map data. If you're worried about privacy then you can always throw it onto an older inactive phone.
Packages for darktable 3.8 are already available on OBS (linked from https://www.darktable.org/install/): https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=graphics:darktable&package=darktable
(These builds are official enough to be linked directly from the darktable.org website.)
I'm sure the Flathub version will be updated soon and various distros will build their own packages within the next few days.
So, for now, you can download from the Open Build Service or wait a couple of days if you'd like a package. But Linux users do have release packages in some form already.
Same here using Linux (Debian 10/Buster).
Not sure if this is as designed or a bug based on the following in the docs:
> The following variables are available, though they may not all be applicable in every context
I find that dubious to be honest. In this context you would expect it to work.
Anyway: Bento gave you one option to circumvent this issue and here's another one:
You could create your text using SVG capable software. Inkscape would be an example. All the layout and formatting is done in that software, and the exported SVG file can be used by the watermark module in darktable.
Liquify ist used to to distort pictures. As discribed here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/processing-modules/liquify/
Everything works fine with single dots. But if you use the curve function, which works by clicking the curve tool and then picking several dots. Then the arrow that is set at every point gets interpolated.
As you might be able to tell this works fine for the first three points. And between point 4 and point 5. Unfortunately between point 3 and 4 the interpolation seems to go the other way around.
I can only assume it has something to do angles around 0. I would suggest you get some image with a more or less straight line from top to bottom and pick around 5 points along that line. And then set all of the vectors to go left and some slightly up and others slightly down.
I had a feeling this is a nieche module, but the fact that I could not find this issue anywhere still baffles me.
I also looked at the source code but unfortunately my c skills are not quite on the level they would need to be.
What version of darktable are you using? It looks like you're using the old import defaults, and not the new ones that use filmic rgb. I would suggest trying the new settings before changing the import defaults. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/workflow/edit-overview/
Again, you seem to have some strange sources and without linking to them you are spreading FUD.
Why not simply check the download page: https://www.darktable.org/install/
which contains a MacOS section linking to:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/download/release-3.4.1/darktable-3.4.1.dmg
If you are going to claim otherwise you need to back that up.
I don't think you are using local copies as intended.
Local copies are intended to be more of a high speed cache to be used after you have imported your images to some sort of ephemeral and/or slower media. Like if you import your photos to an external USB drive. This would result in slow image loading so local copies allows you to cache the files on your internal SSD while you are working on them. You can't delete them because to delete images from the external media, that media must be connected.
Please read this: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/local-copies/
It sounds to me like you are importing from a filesystem when you want to be importing from a camera. The difference between these two being the latter copies to files from the SD card to your disk.
You can read more about a basic workflow here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/workflow/import-rate-tag/
As for how to recover from this mistake? This is quite a mess if you have deleted images from the SD card that you want to keep. My best guess on how to do this involves copying the images you want to save from $HOME/.cache/darktable into another local folder, renaming them and the file structure you want, deleting your darktable database from your drive, importing from filesystem for the files you wanted to keep.
The Darktable documentation is very good and I would encourage you to spend some time reading it to avoid mistakes like this in the future.
I'd a similar problem because i also wanted the flash info there as it gets in digikam or gwenview... and nope
However, in preferences > lighttable > pattern for the thumbnail extended overlay text or pattern for the thumbnail tooltip you can add few more stuff but not what we like... the list is here -> https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/special-topics/variables/
Ask yourself what does a histogram do.
hint1: This shows a histogram of the developed image's light levels.
hint2: look at the "light level" of the corners.
Ask yourself what "light level" does black have :P
You are coming across as a jerk because you want an easy answer and don't seem open to learning.
The reason why it changes the first time you open it is that Darktable uses the thumbnail jpg stored in the raw file and only generates its own thumbnail after you open it. This is perfectly expected.
Your camera doesn't seem to be on the supported list so you can expect some problems. I expect Darktable isn't even applying the correct base curve. Try selecting 'sony alpha like' from the module's presets. You can add support for your camera too, there is a link on the camera support page.
Is your camera ISO invariant? That could be a problem too.
That said, the raw will never look just like the camera jpg. That is kind of the point.
If you are happy with the jpg's, why do you want to use raw? What do you expect to get out of it?
There is a lot to learn and exposure and curves (which will do a lot if you are using them properly) are an important place to start.
It may be raw overexposed. In darkroom turn on the raw overexposed indicator (looks like a red/green/blue checkerboard) and see if you get an overexposed pattern in the sky.
> Also I started edititng these in Adobe Lightroom, exported the xmp's and continued af few weeks later in Darktable, does that matter?
Yes, that will matter because they use completely different development engines. You may be able to recover some of the work you did in Lightroom, but probably not all of it. More info can be found here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/importing_foreign_xmp.html
Lighttable uses the embedded jpg for raw files until you start to develop it in darkroom. After that it will show the developed thumbnail. Were your original shots underexposed, which is why they are showing as dark?
If I were you, if you hadn't completed developing the raws in Lightroom, I would just start again from scratch in darktable. Depending on how much you've done, it might not take you too long to get back to where you left off, plus you get the benefit of practising with darktable and learning how to achieve the same results.
Deb PPA ubuntuhandbook1/darktable 3.2.1 became available this morning. Jus' sayin'
It's not difficult to compile, once you install the dependencies listed here under Prerequisites:
Hi,
First of all: You are using a very old darktable version. It would be wise to installe the latest stable version (get 3.0.2 here).
About your problem: It looks like you need to learn about masks, which is a very powerful feature.
There are many video's and tutorials out there that you can search for. These I liked and should get you started: Bruce Williams: Multiple mask tutorials on youtube
afaik
Darktable is a non destructive editor. It will create a XMP file in the same folder where your imported raw file is.
OK, so I think it's clear that you're not very accustomed to RAW processors. Most of them are geared towards processing multiple images and then export in batch. It's a whole different paradigm than "normal" single image editing and marrying those two in single gui harms both workflows. I tried RawTherapee but I found that it has just as different gui as any other RAW processor with different goals.
- The "export" module UI you mentioned isn't bad at all, it's powerfull and that comes at a cost that it takes a moment to learn it's tricks. I won't even claim I know them all. Obviously it's geared for something different than "I open image, I work on image, I save image I worked on".
- This applies to the workflow part. It's geared towards batch processing, so it's not something that can use "save image as" dialog. BUT! you can use STANDARD "choose directory" dialog when choosing export location.
- I'd argue that use of dedicated UI help keep things neat and "in the zone". The UI elements are standarized and very powerfull (especially sliders). They are sdandard in the app. For contra look at lightroom (or any other raw processor) and tell me those are standard controlls. Standard apps may use standard controlls, specialized apps benefit from specialized controlls
- This depends on definition of photo management. it's great raw worflow app if you confirm to set of expectations about your storage choice. However it's not a file manager. see https://www.darktable.org/about/faq/
Lighttable rewrite is for better display of lighttable and images-to-act-on logic. Nothing in the file management departament. Some of your comments are valid and thus I'll make note of them.
Ahh, I missed ctrl-E in the press-h-for-help overlay. That said, it works in a way that is remarkably un-useful. There's no way (that I can find) in the darkroom UI to specify where and how the file will be exported. No control over directory, file name, or file format. For that you need to switch to the Lighttable and mess about with the strange UI there.
The point I was trying to make is that almost every other program uses one of the standard file save dialogs (GTK, QT, etc.) when writing/saving/exporting a file.
Yes, but on the Mac they have a _standard_ file save UI. Again, I'm arguing for the use of platform-standard UI actions. Do what most other programs on the platform do, and users will automatically know how to do things.
Darktable *is* photo management, according to the text at the very top of www.darktable.org:
"""darktable is an open source photography workflow application and raw developer. A virtual lighttable and darkroom for photographers. It manages your digital negatives in a database, lets you view them through a zoomable lighttable and enables you to develop raw images and enhance them."""
From what I've seen it's _almost_ a very good photo management app, and it could get there without a lot of work. It sounds like AlicVB is trying to make that happen. I suspect they would be unhappy to hear you say otherwise.
Those videos are similar, those guys doing same things. I did it also, but it does not work for me. And I dont know why. Is there any logs?
I am trying to follow this:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/tethering_troubleshoot.html
but I cant find gphoto2 .exe.
Okay, so I solved the issue. Most of the issue was that I didn't understand the manual and had to write it out to understand.
If you alter $(FILE_NAME) to $(FILE_NAME/IMG_/) you can get rid of the "IMG_" unwanted prefix. You can also include what you want the title to be after the last / in the $ line, or you can put it before the $(FILE... in the whole storage options panel.
I hope this helps someone in the future! :)
Last time I checked there was nothing built into the product, but this script can do it for you: https://github.com/darktable-org/lua-scripts/blob/master/contrib/rename-tags.lua.
There's some more info on scripting here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/lua_chapter.html
What you need to know is stable and dev version might use different settings for modules, resulting in different data structures in database and XMP files, which make them incompatible.
So if that's what you want to do, you might want to ensure database and XMP used by each version are enclosed and not accessed from the other version.
- You need to disable the XMP auto synchronisation, and possibly the XMP writing at all,
- You need to have 2 separate config directories (thus separate databases), which is possible by launching darktable in console with the `--configdir /path/to/your/config` arg (see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters)
The D3500 is mentioned on darktable's camera support page.
Not sure how up-to-date it is, so the WB Presets and Custom Matrix entries might have changed to yes by now.
Actually, that was almost correct. In the 3rd party downloads section on the darktable website, you've got 3 links to choose from. Take the 3rd option named "snapshots from the master branch" and you'll end up here. Then, as described, choose Ubuntu and "grab binary packages directly". Worked fine for me on Linux Mint.
You can install 3.0 from the OBS repository listed on the darktable website...
https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty
https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=graphics:darktable&package=darktable
It will ask you to delete the old version, but it's not necessary. The library will transfer automatically, though it will stop working in the old version - if you want to use both versions of the program you should make a back up. https://www.darktable.org/2019/12/darktable-300-released/
This sounds like you're opening raw images and DT isn't applying an appropriate base curve. Raw photos tend to look a bit "flat", which is why DT (and in fact most editors) will apply a base curve transformation for you when you start editing the picture.
I'm a little new to DT, but in general your editor will either do this by comparing a raw and JPG version of the same photo from your camera (which you can create by telling your camera to capture in both formats), or by looking up a default curve based on the camera make and model in the image's metadata.
If start by checking the default settings in DT to make sure this functionality isn't turned off, and then look into making sure it can pick the right curve for your camera. You can find some more info here:
/u/Sachiel2014 asked a good question.
Assuming you are on linux: Install from source or git version Almost at the bottom of the page. I'm using git + manual build and that works nicely on my side.
Do make sure you have all the prerequisites, not all of them might be mentioned on the linked page.
I'm not aware there are any pre-build installable packages yet.
Also: The RC0 release is about to be released (planned late October), which might have pre-build versions for all the (major) platforms. Might want to wait for that one. RC1 is planned late November.
I personally think the current size is adequate for its intended purpose.
If OP thinks it's not, I think it is his/her decision to take it to the devs. [How to contact the DarkTable team]
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Don't worry about it too much. During install darktable will check to see if your box is capable of using opencl. Check the preferences -> Core Options -> see the 2 opencl options
Or run the darktable-cltest command from within a terminal.
Great suggestion, a killer feature indeed but I struggle with it personally too. I'll have a look. In the meantime, have you read this article about the filmic module?
After looking at your image, it appears that your camera sensors were just over-exposed. Darktable is unlikely to create new information into an image if the image is already over-exposed.
Here is an educational article on a similar topic.
https://www.darktable.org/2015/03/color-reconstruction/
If I were you, I could potentially turn this image to monochrome, reduce the exposure a bit and call it good enough.
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Good luck!
Documentation on thumbnais can be found here
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/thumbnails.html
It's propably not wise to import your whole harddisk.
You should rather have a dedicated folder with a suitable subfolder structure (as you please, e.g. sorted by year). Those folders should contain images only.
DT sould only imports images, however it creates sidecar files next to the image. This is a great as it allows you to move folders around, reimport and all settings are read back from the sidecar (to the DT database. It's basically also a distributed backup of your DT database. However you now added sidecar file for every image on your whole drive ...
Stay organized, a bit at least, and check the docs as above.
Have a look a the tutorial for darktable-chart if you want to match the out of camera jpg.
Or have a look at https://www.darktable.org/2012/10/whats-involved-with-adding-support-for-new-cameras/
Or just make a basecurve by hand!
I actually do notice some delay when scrolling. What do you recommend that I change the cache size to?
Found this: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch08s02.html.php
Ill look through that tonight and give it some tries.
This is not surprising. Almost no one, except Adobe, reads Linear RAW. The thumbnail they refer to is there. But, there is also a Linear RAW, that they probably do not read.
Beginners must log on to https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-darktable to get strated with darktable.
It's not fault of darktable actually your camera is doing it.All cameras do it but many photographers don't realize it.Since you are saving photo in JPG format which is smaller in size many of the data captured by camera sensors is lost during compression process.
Since you are a newbie in photo editing you should visit https://hackr.io/tutorials/learn-darktable for guidance
I hope I was pretty much helpful.
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Tried the following, without success, before posting:
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