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The pennies comment above is a little off. But it is a small portion. However if you can sell through someone like Amazon or Barnes then you have a larger chance of more sold. Millions of people are going to those websites / stores. Hundreds are probably going to Paulides. That said. .

Amazon is the 20 lb. Guerilla. I sell each of my books at $14.99. I get $3 for every one sold. The printer usually takes $4 or more for their cost. Amazon pockets the rest. However if you can track interest and manipulate Amazons algorithms then you can generally sell more. For example, my second book "Wrecklessy Absurd" has gained enough clicks to my landing page on Amazon that they constantly cut the price. Which is great as I still get my $3, but Amazon takes less. But they hope more units sell.

Photo example : Wrecklessly Absurd (Chance Encounters Trilogy) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1798208385/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AGpKDb10ERQYF

Now Paulides doesn't want that cut (I assume) . So he orders in bulk from his printer (probably $3-4 a book) and sells for $25, making the bulk of profit. So selling 10 books from his website nets him $200. Where he would need to sell 80 books on Amazon to get that. Plus when you get to other countries (Canada especially) your profit per book goes drastically down which usually means you need to jack up the price :(

The book in question is free on Kindle. The Faerie-Faith in Celtic Countries

Good connection! Every time I read about an old or new case (like the grandfather and grandson recently found dead just off a trail head) I can't help but wonder. It was a National Park.

David Paullides says clearly the same thing may well go on in large cities...and there's also the factor of these disappearances near water. So I look at those cases much differently.

I was blackberry picking this weekend--but at a farm, though still on a mountain and surrounded by forests. I told my friend "This is one of the most dangerous activities you can do!"

And I, for one, am just so intrigued by the lack of description about shoes and condition of feet. This story, the Wendigo, by Algernon Blackwood comes to mind every time I think about 411: these guys have a very creepy experience but it's also all about the victims being taken up in the air and screaming about their poor burning feet!

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/10897/10897-h/10897-h.htm

Hey op, have you ever heard about the third man effect? A lot of epileptic report feeling a presence over their left shoulder prior to a seizure (as do others with neurological disorders)

Mysterious universe talks about it in the second half of this ep https://castbox.fm/vb/157424160

Called Disembodied Voices. It was freaky and offers a new (paranormal) theory about what could be behind some 411 cases

Such a tragedy. The temperature in Yosemite the days leading up was almost 100. It's unwise to go hiking when it's 100 out in an exposed area with such small amount of water and a baby to take care of. Please people, check the weather, know where you're hiking, and bring ample supplies if you do decide to go out.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/yosemite-national-park/95389/august-weather/39947\_pc?year=2021

A couple of interesting books are focused on this type of experience, both English researcher/writers. There is "Time Storms," by the well-known UFO / paranormal writer Jenny Randles, and a very odd book called "The Mask of Time" by Joan Forman: https://www.amazon.com/Mask-Time-Timeslips-Precognition-Hindsight/dp/0354042718

Faerie lore is full of this kind of thing. In Cornwall, for instance, you can get "pixie-led" while walking, and the solution is to put your coat on backwards, or your socks on backwards. Similar beliefs in rural Ireland, although those beliefs have been fading a bit since the late 18th Century.

UFO/entity close encounters are notorious for the percipients finding themselves in an unexpected place after the event. Betty and Barney Hill & Travis Walton, for example.

A sighting of a pair of huge primates (Bigfoot, yeti, whatever) is recorded in "The Long Walk", by Slavomir Rawicz. The pair of primates were seen by a group of men, including Rawicz, fleeing a Siberian prison camp by way of Mongolia, Tibet and India; I believe the actual sighting took place in Tibet.

Other than large primates, it stands to reason that if UFO's seem to be hanging around, no pun intended, in wilderness areas, or if aliens are doing their dirty deeds out in the woods, then anyplace with plenty of room, would be fine. Remember that during WW2, thousands of Belarussian Jews hid out in the Naliboki forest, and even made settlements there, without being found by the Nazis. So if aliens or megaprimates are boppin' around, they could be in places like that.

Do you have a link for the temperature in Ely, MN Oct 10/11, 2018 or are you relying on averages?

The guy's shelter was a tarp strung over a tree branch and a hammock and the article said there was 2' to 4' of snow on the ground.

Edit: I just checked and the low temperature on October 10, 2018 was 32 degrees (freezing).

https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/mn/ely/KELO/date/2018-10-10

I am having trouble finding it on the channel page, but thanks for the tip. Subscribed and am watching good content now. If you happen to have a link to the episode on Missing 411 that would be great.

EDIT: Found it --- I was not looking at iheart radio podcasts

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/182-stuff-they-dont-want-you-t-26941221/episode/missing-411-with-david-paulides-29623929/

Well, in simplest way of putting it - scent spreads in inverted cones. most concentrated at the base source, and pluming outward, in a sense. It's also got a lot to do with shedding of dead skin cells - the average person sheds 30-40,000 skin cells every minute.

You can't mask a scent from a dog. A well trained drug sniffing dog can scent out a half gram of cannabis dropped inside a vehicle's gas tank. Your average bloodhound can scent out a single drop of blood in 25 gallons of water. Coffee or other herbs won't even slow an untrained dog down once they've latched onto something they want.

However, are certain environmental factors, like air and water flow, that can hinder a dog's ability to follow scents - but primarily in the sense that the movement can send the canine off in the wrong direction, and cause them to lose the trail. Handlers are typically trained to recognize these conditions, and help compensate to aid their canine's success - because the dog isn't overlooking the scent, they've just lost it for various reasons like pooling, fanning or the Chimney Effect.

Here's a good, precursory slide on scent theory in relation to canines.

>If you reported that experience, that's one thing. It's one person. Compare that to every major religion who universally believe in evil, spiritual creatures, and also that these evil beings sometimes do bad things to people. We are talking about billions of people. It's knowledge that had been handed down over thousands of years.

Yeah, but a LOT of people believe in Jesus.

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>Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, believed in the existence of demons. More than that, He cast them out of people, taught His disciples to do the same, and gave them the power to do it.

Sure -- but he told me they are not involved in Missing 411.

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>As far as good reasons to believe these things, it goes into the realm of philosophy. I'd recommend The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310345863/ref=redir\_mobile\_desktop?\_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=f2c5ecf76e994ff7ef864f1e2b527999&hsa\_cr\_id=1264584810601&pd\_rd\_plhdr=t&pd\_rd\_r=7300aa9e-a070-4174-b636-c1c90d5a8d74&pd\_rd\_w=ysTX7&am...

Ok, but how do we decide who is right? You are claiming Missing 411 is involved with the supernatural, and Jesus said it's not. More people believe Jesus is honest than have ever heard of you -- so does that make him right?

If you reported that experience, that's one thing. It's one person. Compare that to every major religion who universally believe in evil, spiritual creatures, and also that these evil beings sometimes do bad things to people. We are talking about billions of people. It's knowledge that had been handed down over thousands of years.

Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, believed in the existence of demons. More than that, He cast them out of people, taught His disciples to do the same, and gave them the power to do it.

As far as good reasons to believe these things, it goes into the realm of philosophy. I'd recommend The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310345863/ref=redir\_mobile\_desktop?\_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=f2c5ecf76e994ff7ef864f1e2b527999&hsa\_cr\_id=1264584810601&pd\_rd\_plhdr=t&pd\_rd\_r=7300aa9e-a070-4174-b636-c1c90d5a8d74&pd\_rd\_w=ysTX7&am...

I think I'd have to write an in-depth article rather than answer questions as they come. It's a deep subject. We are asking- What is real? How can we know things? What are the different ways of knowing?

Jordan Peterson, who called himself an atheist, is now saying that he believes in God. He was with Joe Rogan talking about "narrative reality" vs "objective reality." If you listened to that interview, you might get a handle on where I'm coming from.

Or you could read "The Fall of Man and the Foundations of Science" https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Man-Foundations-Science/dp/0521117291

Have you checked out the price on Amazon lately? Truly unbelievable!

Yes, that says $792.99.

Here is the weather report from October 11, 1955 (the day Weitkamp went missing). I'm far from an expert on how people die from exposure, so I can't really make an educated assessment on the matter based on this data.

A bit of background work from All trials.com

From Reviewer Sam Musolf in July of 2018:

"This took us only about 3 1/2 hours to do the 9 miles to the meadow and back. (25 year olds who usually exercise daily). But not a difficult trail, enjoy with the whole family! Very nice trail maintenance wise - chacos/ keeps/ tennis are fine! Wildflowers sprinkled along the way. We even took a quick dip in the freezing cold river! Enjoy : ) "

You offered:
"It only seemed like 15 minutes had passed, and yet more than 4 hours had elapsed." but you also mentioned your first note of time was at 1:45 and your last at 6:30. A difference of 4 hours and 45 minutes. 1 hour and 15 minutes longer than the reviewers time. Not an unusual amount of time, given the differences in strides, breaks and aside moments.

I am certainly not implying you are not truthful, but that the time lost could easily be explained by a loss of situational awareness, disorientation or getting distracted enjoying the scenery and event. If you did experience a summer storm, such a distraction could also account for the loss of time.

https://www.amazon.com/Bray-Road-Beast-Linda-Godfrey/dp/B08FF5Y29G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1KTP74KIDB86M&keywords=bray+road&qid=1640388863&s=instant-video&sprefix=bray+road%2Caps%2C94&sr=1-1

The book was published in 77 so it's long out of print. I think they have it here: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=18289014445&searchurl=kn%3DJay%2520gourley%26sts%3Dt%26sortby%3D17%26ds%3D20 Still pretty expensive

it's a theory so why exclude it. There is definitely somone(s) out there killing drunk collge kids and dumping them in close by areas of water. Just covered the Brian Shaffer case here: https://anchor.fm/thecriticalonions Someone knows something.

Delusional disorder is a generally rare mental illness in which a person presents delusions, but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect

Fascinating experience of it here:

"‘The Story of a Weird World I Was Warned Never to Tell’"

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/DISTRIBUTION-MAP-OF-CAVES-AND-CAVE-ANIMALS-IN-THE-Culver-Hobbs/46d1ba7a8c1df10f008949eb662789bb77a20bd9

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Edit: holy shit. this is giving me goosebumps.

> the kids bodies wouldn’t have stunk that bad unless they were killed a few weeks before

The kids were reported missing on July 9, the bodies were discovered on September 6 of the same year. They were described as skeletal or nearly skeletal by the time they were found, which is consistent with being outside for nearly two months in the Ohio summer.

While the cause of death couldn't be determined because of decomposition, a forensic expert was able to testify as to how the children had been dead because of insect activity on the bodies.

>Evidence showed that blow flies, which appear almost immediately after death, had disappeared by the time the bodies were discovered. > >There were no secondary screwworms, which should have been present in the area in mid-to-late July (but who would not have laid eggs in a body in an advanced state of decay). > >The cheese skippers, which require a minimum of 45 days and advanced decay to thrive, were not found either. > >From this, Haskell determined that the earliest the children could have died was July 9 and the latest was July 14.

Prior to the children going missing, the stepdad had been accused of trying to rape a neighbor woman, and had been convicted and served time for succeeding in raping his own adoptive mother. This doesn't prove he murdered the children, but it certainly makes him seem like the type of person capable of murdering children.

Ok. Why don't you use a Google Sheets spreadsheet? Costs nothing. You could open it up for other people to contribute to.

https://www.google.com/sheets/about/

I think a public database is worth having. It would be good if you could sort it to find commonalities.

The Bible is not scientific investigation, it's revelation. Science is men trying to learn something about the physical world. Revelation is someone who already knows telling them. I'm not saying science is bad. I'm saying that revelation is easier and better.

Modern science (the scientific method) is a philosophy about learning. It was crafted by Christians from Bible theology. https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Man-Foundations-Science/dp/0521117291 This makes modern science a subset of the Christian world-view. Lately materialists and other atheists have tried to take it and run with it, but it breaks down. It's not logically consistent within their world view.

Thanks guys!! There was a Bigfoot documentary search crew that came to my reservation in 2006. They interviewed witnesses of Bigfoot. I can confirm they are telling the truth on that documentary, even though people on the Amazon DVD store are saying it's all fake. I know about 5 witnesses that have personally seen Bigfoot. He's been in our legends for a millennia before the Robert Patterson footage near Bluff Creek California. Personally, I only have photos of tracks and have heard huge elephant sounding foot steps outside my grandma's house which is partially isolated. The DVD is called Bigfoot Lives. It used to be on Netflix. Heres a link to the DVD:

https://www.amazon.com/Bigfoot-Lives/dp/B01M5IS4OC

>both 411 movies

Both?? There are actually seven movies.... you've only scratched the tip of the iceberg, my friend!

I recently finished DISEMBODIED VOICES: TRUE ACCOUNTS OF HIDDEN BEINGS, and I’m recommending it to everyone. The stories are creepy as hell and author gives a possible theory as to what might happen to some missing people. He almost went missing as a child.

Book

About a year ago, I got the Kindle Book (but they do have it on paper as well) " SOMETHING IN THE WOODS IS TAKING PEOPLE: : Missing Children, Missing Hikers, Missing in National Parks. Supernatural Abductions. Monsters. Underground Bases. " by Steph Young

It was decently ok. Good. Much cheaper than M411 Books.. Some of it seemed like a rehash of some of Paulides's cases, some were deeper dives, and some were cases I'd heard of on other forums like TS.. She does get a bit off course (Think she's trying to be the next Linda Moulton Howe as she jumps around like that)in places and I didn't care for the latter sections about Underground Bases, satanic rituals, UFOS.. To quote one of the reviewers "Basically it's a poor man's Missing 411, with extra added tinfoil hats." That said, it's the price of a happy meal at McDonalds but just like the Happy Meal, sometimes you just want something quick and fun..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LCXO4QU

no problem! if you like these type of books i know another interesting one by another author that compiles newspaper articles of alaska. theres sasquatch sightings,wooly mammoth sightings and a lot of other weird stuff

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Stories-Alaska-Yukon-Ferrell/dp/0945397518

i dont see it on their site but heres a pic of it on amazon so you know what you’re looking for

https://www.amazon.com/Bigfoot-Giants-Archived-Articles-1680-1922/dp/0692182292

maybe if you contact them through the can am site they can help you out

Wait, I just found it. No wonder I couldn't find it. I got the episode name wrong. Its called "it scared us to death" and its season 2, episode 9. You can watch it free on the travel channel app. I couldn't link it from the app for some reason, but here it is from amazon prime tv. I'm rewatching it now.....chilling

https://www.amazon.com/These-Woods-Are-Haunted-Season/dp/B084L5KZKC

I highly recommend Hunt For The Skinwalker to anyone who's interested in the 411 phenomenon or paranormal stuff in general, it's fascinating. There's a documentary movie too (not the stupid goddamn History Channel show), but I keep forgetting to watch it.

Your experience reminds me of a movie I saw many years ago: Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives. A dying man can communicate with ghosts. His son takes the form of a black shadow figure in the forest. Really haunting and beautiful movie. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CMPQLK/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabc_-FEUFbHR6V35W

Check out Vanished which aired on The History Channel in 2019. It's cheapest on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Vanished/dp/B07M73JRZ8/ - but also available on YouTube and iTunes.

Amazon is renting it now for $4, gonna watch it tonight. Here's a link for anyone waiting for a cheaper option than the $20 on Vimeo:

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https://www.amazon.com/Missing-411-George-Knapp/dp/B072MS5WN3

Missing 411 (2019) on Amazon $3.99 to rent

Missing 411 (2107) on Amazon $2.99 to rent

It's free on Prime Video! So, nothing to lose if you're interested in watching it :)

I've been trying to find sources that link these phenomenon together, and the only two I've found are:

Where the Footprints End

Mark Barton recalls his encounter

You should get in contact with the author of this book: https://www.amazon.com/Where-Footprints-End-Strangeness-Phenomenon/dp/B0882N61XN

The bigfoot data seems less and less to be the story of a lost ape in the woods and more a part-spiritual creature that will never fit into materialistic science. If they are indeed the Sons of Cain (as some claim to be), then they truly are malevolent.

I'm hesitate to recommend this.. But if you have Amazon Prime maybe check out "Hellier"
It's tangentially related. As far as credibility and actual investigation goes it's actually pretty bad. Lot's of "connecting dots" where they really don't need to be.

But, as far as production goes it's the best paranormal documentary I've seen. So, for that reason I still kinda enjoyed it. Even with it's mind-numbing reaches.

Just a heads up for anyone who hasn't read it, but there are a series of similar accounts from the UK, documented in Nick Redfern's cryptozoological expose, Man-Monkey: In Search of The British Bigfoot.

"... something hairy and unknown would time and again lash out at unwary passing drivers ... In most cases, victims of the diabolical phenomenon reported large, hairy and 'disembodied hands' firmly gripping the steering wheel of their vehicle," etc. (pp.118).

The book also includes accounts of (and is focussed around) a similar occurrence in another part of the UK, where a spectral, hairy biped has been regularly seen, and links these appearances to the presence of large ammounts of granite, as well as canals and waterways, all associated with the drownings of young men. The same areas are also dog-man hotspots, according to reports in the same book.

So, any avid fans of the bigfoot-gone-and-done-did-it theory I guess this might serve as a handy, Passport to Magonia style tie-in.

Personally, my mind is open, but it is interesting.

Book available here for the interested party: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Monkey-Search-British-Bigfoot-ebook/dp/B00S0GDM4M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471445074&sr=8-1&keywords=man+monkey

It's an entertaining addition to any 411 research.

>Maybe there are 'entities' from an alternate dimension which prey on people but how they appear depends upon the observer and their cultural background. Some primitive people would see spirits, religious people see demons, Westerners would see aliens and Bigfoot.

http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Saucers/dp/0987422480