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I'm not sure about that kind with the leg wraparound, but I have major lumbar problems and I use this belt every day when I'm walking or standing. I wear it much lower than they show the model wearing it, and it helps me a lot. Scientific studies have also indicated that these belts can help with pain and strain.
The downsides are that the belt can put pressure on your stomach if you wear it too high and tight, and that can cause heartburn. It also can get uncomfortable after being worn a while. So finding the right balance between too loose (no effect) versus too tight can be tricky. But for a lot of people, they can give pain relief for not too much cost.
I'm not a doctor, just someone with a bad back:
First of all, humans have five lumbar vertebrae. You can tell on your xray whether a vertebra is thoracic versus lumbar because the thoracic vertebrae are where the ribs are attached. So the first lumbar vertebra down from the ribs is called L1 (Lumbar One). Then moving down you have L2, L3, L4, L5 and then the sacrum (S1) which is where your pelvis begins.
The disc that cushions between your L1 vertebra and L2 vertebra is fine. But the disc between L2 and L3 is squeezed and bulging, and some parts of the vertebra are narrower than they should be, and both of these things are squeezing your nerves and causing pain. You have the same problem between your L3 and L4 as well. Then moving down, things get worse: your next disc down, L4-L5, has actually burst (is herniated). Then your L5-S1 is also herniated.
Generally doctors will start off by steering you toward physical therapy and epidural steroid injections, and then if these don't help, discuss surgery. Surgery is usually not the first step. There are a lot of other temporary pain reduction techniques you can do at home such as TENS, heat and ice packs, and massage. One thing I can suggest immediately is getting a sacroiliac hip belt, which can often help with lower back pain - it definitely helped me.
Here's a playlist of McKenzie exercises. There are other videos out there as well. And a book.
I hope you find relief. It took me more than a year of leg pain and loss of feeling in one foot before I saw my PCP. Don't wait as long as I did!
Standing desk. Before the standing desk I use to gut through the pain but it made it so much better.
Something like this when you need a break: Bed Tray
Your last sentence is literally something I've said to my doctor. Numbness is nothing compared to the nerve pain.
Don't be surprised if they suggest PT to start. My doctor told me they almost always suggest PT with the injection because it makes it easier to get insurance approval. The injections are expensive so insurance doesn't want to pay if you've not tried cheaper options.
Also, if you haven't tried icing your back, I'd highly recommend it. Before the injection, it was the only thing besides pain meds that actually helped some. I bought 2 and rotate them during the day and it immediately makes my back feel better
That's the one I use.
Hey, so I found a product at Bed Bath and Beyond called the backjoy. It really does not look like much, and is expensive for what looks like a seat cushion, but I take it everywhere now and it really does work. It was $40, but I found a cheaper version on Amazon: $30. BackJoy on Amazon I use it in my car and brought it in to the office when I had a sedentary job. Even for 30, it looks kinda flimsy, but it definitely helped me.
something hitting your s1....
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/drawing-medical-didactic-board-anatomy-human-141240646
As the previous person commented, positions that take pressure off the spine such as lying on bed/mat with your legs well elevated on pillows can be really helpful in finding relief. I used this wedge like pillow https://www.amazon.com/DMI-Elevated-Supportive-Elevating-Circulation/dp/B0009STNC4/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=Sciatica+pillow&qid=1626758508&sr=8-14
Zero gravity chairs can be a nice alternative to laying in bed.
Back when I was in pain, there were very few recliners I could sit in that gave relief. It would have to recline back pretty far and have decent lumbar support.
Here are some suggestions of things to try if you haven't already:
- Alternate icing and heating of the affected area
- A TENS machine, placing the electrodes across your lower back. This can really help to block nerve pain and help you relax a little. You can get them at any drugstore and also on Amazon.
- A hip belt like this: wearing it it tight around your hips.
- When you're lying down, place at least two pillows under your knees and calves so that your legs are higher than your waist. This MIGHT relieve the some strain you're experiencing in the prone position.
- CBD at night to help you get to sleep. Take a bunch, it can't hurt.
- Maybe ease up on the stretching and walking for a few days and see if that helps. If it gets worse or stays the same, go back to it.
Not a doctor or PT, you should 100% see one for this. But definitely BACK OFF if you get symptomatic walking. Nerve pain in your leg isn't something you "push through" like stretches for muscles. Buy the "Treat your Own Back" book by Robin McKenzie and go through the checklist in the book to determine how bad your symptoms are. It could be something else so you should not do this in place of a Dr visit but rather in complement.
If you can, look at this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WRV7M4V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_VPQCNGCGEV8HST777R59?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
When I was checking out different ones this was cheaper with decent adjustability.
As far as studying goes, you don't have to sit down:
It's likely going to take a while to heal, and you should avoid prolonged sitting. I got that myself to keep going with my master's degree without exacerbating pain, definitely worth it
Kneeling chair - I use https://www.amazon.com/DRAGONN-Ergonomic-Kneeling-Adjustable-Office/dp/B073ZN7B52 (in fact, I have two of these :-).
Disclaimer #1: AFAIK there are no studies that show the benefits of a kneeling chair (but then, AFAIK there are also no studies that show the benefits of a standing desk). Still, the chair made a huge difference for me.
Disclaimer #2: To adjust and get used to the kneeling chair, I would start with just 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the afternoon and extending the time gradually over 1-2 weeks. Also - it is important that you do not lean forward (e.g. when using a keyboard or a mouse) - leaning forward would flex the lower back and might exacerbate back problems.
Disclaimer #3: A comfortable chair is only one part of a solution. Moving from time to tome and changing positions is important in general for lower back health (e.g. don't sit/kneel all the time - get up and walk around the room every 10-15 minutes and/or get for a longer walk after lunch). I highly recommend the "Back Mechanic" book by McGill: https://www.amazon.com/Back-Mechanic-Stuart-McGill-2015-09-30/dp/B01FKSGJYC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2T3452809ELSY&dchild=1&keywords=back+mechanic+mcgill&qid=1617841459&sprefix=back+mechanic%2Cgarden%2C242&sr=8-1
For me none, I absolutely hate them. My issue was if I had a spasm it was like being in a trapped in a cage. Normally my body would fall naturally into a position to get out of the spasm and pain with a back brace, medical or other, I was forced to stay in a position that my body did not want to be in at that moment.
What I did like, when I had a lot of pain in my leg from sciatica is a sciatic hip brace, I guess you would call it.
BODYMATE Compression Brace for Hip, Sciatica Nerve Pain Relief Thigh Hamstring, Quadriceps, Joints, Arthritis, Groin Wrap for Pulled Muscles, Hip Strap, Sciatica Brace/SI Belt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5FVD4U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_iLgZFb2QP7CXW
That’s the one I used and it worked well.
For days my back hurt I went with compression wear, shirt and pants. It gives some extra support without restricting mobility particularly in situations you need them.
I have a new bout of pain with sleep, but there are are few tools I use to keep the pain at bay. Definitely check out your mattress and move sleep positions to find a firmer spot. If it’s sunken in, your back is likely in flexion all night causing your pain in morning. I use this back pillow under my lumbar for support throughout the night. It’s awesome and adjustable with an air bladder. I also use a wedge pillow similar to this one, but mine is extra long so my feet don’t dangle down (causing nerve pain). It’s good to have a couple tools at your disposal because I find one may work for months and then I’m experiencing pain again and a different one will work.
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Start taking this. You can get it on amazon. It’s an enzyme that breaks down scar tissue. Also start taking arnica as well. That will prevent it from coming back.
Really sorry to hear this. This is my first bout with sciatica. I've had it for 3 weeks and I have the intense pain radiating down my left leg every day. I have a pretty high pain tolerance but this is a whole other level and I'm really frustrated. I've been sleeping on my back with a pillow under my left leg. It's been okay but I don't get a full nights sleep. I tried sleeping on my right side last night with a pillow between my knees and that was actually pretty comfortable. I've been wearing a back brace (Back Support Belt by Sparthos - Relief for Back Pain, Herniated Disc, Sciatica, Scoliosis and more! – Breathable Mesh Design with Lumbar Pad – Adjustable Support Straps – Lower Back Brace [Size Small] ) during the day that I found on Amazon. It's pretty good. I just ordered a long heating pad and hemp cream to see if they helps. My sciatica is really bad in the morning...I can't even bend down to feed my dogs. I'm going to start doing the McGill Big 3 core workout & I'm going to start doing my treadmill again to see if that helps. I had no idea how bad this is. Hope you can figure out a solution for yourself.
I use a herman miller aeron chair both at work and at home, but just the chair alone is not enough. You can order a lumbar attachment for the chair, but it hardly does anything. I recommend getting a lumbar support such as this one to go with the chair.
https://smile.amazon.com/LoveHome-Balanced-Firmness-Designed-Computer/dp/B00D5J7SL2/
My workplace ordered one for me, and it makes a huge difference. My wife bought one for me for home use since I liked it so much at work.
I highly recommend this work book on pain management. I was in therapy specifically to deal with my mental health struggles from dealing with chronic pain and it really changed my perspective on everything.
Were you twisting when it reherniated?
I got a TP holder and use a peri-bottle as a bidet to avoid any twisting. You can use put a walker by the toilet backwards to help you stand up.
Fanwer Toilet Aids Tools,Long... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1M6PGR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It is this one:
We drove 7 hours the week after surgery and it helped a lot. I still use it in the car.
Here's a good little blurb about how to tell the difference: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/herniated-disk/expert-answers/bulging-disk/faq-20058428, but effectively a "bulge" is squashed disk where the inner nucleus has not ruptured the outer anulus. Once the nucleus protrudes through the anulus, you have a herniation. To your second question, as far as I understand, "ruptured", "slipped", and "herniated" are used interchangeably.
Yes, wearing a band around my thigh helped somewhat with alleviating pain. I initially thought I had a hamstring injury, so that’s why I wore the band. But I saw a difference in pain levels. It might not work for everyone though. FYI I had to make sure the band was soft and not too wide/big because otherwise it was uncomfortable / dug into the nerve area. It’s funny but I used the band from this product: Medvice 2 Reusable Hot and Cold... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083NJ6F5J?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
These are the ones I bought that fit well in the low spot where the couch cushions meet. I didn’t buy them for that specific reason but It seemed to work. At least for me…
Good luck!
ComfiLife Orthopedic Knee Pillow... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MZSTC1J?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Cooling Gel Lumbar Pillow for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PQ9YFD7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
To be honest, beds hurt my back for the longest time. I slept on the floor for about a year. Eventually I picked up a thick yoga mat to sleep on. And I still use that if my back is giving me trouble.
This is the stuff my Doctor recommended and I take. Supposed to absorb better. Seems to work for me.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G2FHVJL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Something like a squirt bottle bidet can be really helpful.
Well, if you are really depressed and desperate: https://www.amazon.com/-/es/John-Sarno-ebook/dp/B000FA5SGG/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_es_US=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3R9C5K3IC7LPE&keywords=back+pain+book&qid=1659282521&sprefix=back+pain+book%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-3
Read all the reviews, read it, and well, if it works just let us know
Try one of these:
Good for building core strength if you're not in a place to do straight up planks, push-ups or situps. Helped me a lot after my first surgery and I had a lot of weakness after no physical activity for the better part of a year.
You can purchase this foam roller on Amazon. I bought it a few months ago and it comes with a pamphlet that shows you all the exercises you can use it for.
This question can’t be answered without a thorough understanding of your history and the activities you did in PT. I recommend asking them instead of internet randoms.
If you are interested in learning for yourself instead of relying on others please refer to the below texts.
Day after day I am amazed by the uneducated masses seeking advice on their own unique problem from the uneducated masses with entirely different problems. This is truly the blind leading the blind.
Please educate yourself.
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Mechanic-Stuart-McGill-2015-09-30/dp/B01FKSGJYC
https://www.amazon.com/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McKenzie/dp/0987650408
Yes, that sounds like a ripoff. The injections mentioned in my comment above are applied on your buttocks not your back and they helped me a great deal. Go talk to your GP again and explain how much pain you are in; if he/she doesn't listen or blows you off then find another doctor who will take your pain & suffering seriously.
The reason I suggested avoiding the gym is because any minimal false movement or accident can aggravate the condition and lay you out for good. Give your body a chance to heal.
One last suggestion, the only ointment that was powerful enough to give me some sort of relief is Tiger Balm if you are in the USA and want to try it. Apply it with light massage before going to bed or early in the AM before starting your day.
Wouldn't it be wise to avoid the gym for now? Take it easy and do some stretches for your back and walk as much as possible. There are several YouTube channels with plenty of stretches and exercises recommended specifically for sciatica pain.
For me, it went away after a few months although it isn't gone 100%. What helped the most were a couple of steroid shots from my regular doctor although I had been to the ER where pain injection was given plus prescription drugs for muscle relaxer, pain, and inflammation management.
Completely agree that this condition is horrible and tough on one's mental well being. Most people do not understand the level of uncomfort and pain it causes unless they have had it before. Your loved ones will try to be helpful but there is only so much they can do. Not even passing kidney stones (which I had) is as painful as this condition.
Best of luck and know that this will pass. Lots of folks around here also recommend the following book: Back Mechanic by Dr. McGill.
Good chance it’s Sciatica.
Can you give running a break for a few months and see what happens? Maybe dial it down and take this opportunity to diversify your training?
Swim laps. Do yoga. Light weight training.
I haven’t read it, but I’ve heard good things about this book:
Back Mechanic by Dr. Stuart McGill (2015-09-30) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FKSGJYC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JD4FG8HXHKTRTFBE4NKM
Perfect thanks for sharing. By any chance, was standing any issues for you. I work remote so I’m trying to figure what to do after my first week post op.
I bought these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085W6LHT9/ to stay in a good position in bed and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081DY2FM7/ do some work. Will be walking around every 30min but you think it would be okay to work in that position? I do have a stand up desk I will be using as well.
Not a machine but an eight dollar stretching strap can do wonders.
Trideer Stretching Strap Yoga Strap for Physical Therapy, 10 Loops Yoga Straps for Stretching, Non-Elastic Stretch Strap for Pilates, Exercise, Dance, Stretch Band with Workout Guide for Women & Men https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092MJ621Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2XXKXPBP66Q0SYFFQCKZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
"They" don't really do anything. But over the years I learnt stuff myself and followed the odd PT's suggestions.
Are your feet or legs numb numb from spine nerve irritation or did you get a concussion?
I use these techniques.
Vibration platform (oscillating type, lower frequency). https://theconversation.com/standing-on-a-vibrating-platform-could-deliver-some-of-the-same-benefits-as-exercise-177771
A balance cushion thing. Looks like this. Therapist’s Choice Inflated Air-Filled Stability Balance Disc-Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VTWIJZ6/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_T2BS51DPQCKSJNCF7MKV
Calf stregthening exercises.
Massage or rub the numb areas. Mive different things over the skin like tissue, cotton bud, ice, crinkled up paper, cloth etc.
Practice picking stuff up with toes. Sit in a chair and or standing up.
Mirror therapy can be tedious and mentally hard. But you can look it up.
Be careful in dark places - makes balance issues worse.
You can get shoes or shoe inserts that slightly tip you away from falling sideways.
There are socks for indoors that have little grippy things on the bottow.
If it is your head that is dizzy, that takes time to go away. It took 6 months for my concussion vertigo to go away.
Disclaimer. Talk to your medical professionals. My advice is from experience, I'm not a medical Dr.
Aylio Coccyx Orthopedic Comfort Foam Seat Cushion for Lower Back, Tailbone and Sciatica Pain Relief (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AE9V3WQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_A02SWE8PHJ2NQ7G1Z4BH
This cushion provides great relief in the car for me, get one, thank me later.
I found that having a toilet seat riser was a godsend for at least a week after my MD, especially if you have a low toilet.
This is the one I got but I hear the ones with handles are better.
I completely feel your pain. I started throwing my back out at age 16. Back sciatica. Now I’m 25 and still have issues. For years I was hopeless, but I found Dr. Stuart McGill, essentially one of the best modern back doctors. His book, “The Back Mechanic,” was a game changer. I’ve also been to a certified McGill Method practitioner. For us who have chronic issues, it’s important to find something that you see progress with, and I have seen that with the McGill Method. Linking the book, it’s an easy read when taking notes.
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Mechanic-Stuart-McGill-2015-09-30/dp/B01FKSGJYC
Body Vision IT9825 Premium Inversion Table with Adjustable Head Rest & Lumbar Support Pad, - Heavy Dutyup to 250 lbs., Gray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GF8C61J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0K0FHYNN61KZZ568WSF5
I use a standing desk and also this desk for when I want to lay down in bed. I also have a wedge pillow to elevate my legs in bed too. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2FH41S?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details
There are two positions I am able to do comfortably. First is prone with the laptop in front of me on the floor. I use one or two pillows under my chest to make it easier on my shoulders. Second is supine in bed with this laptop stand to tilt the keyboard up, which makes it easier on my wrist and neck. DESIGNA Metal Mesh Ventilated Adjustable Laptop Stands Computer Notebook Holder Stand Riser Compatible with Apple MacBook Air Pro Dell XPS HP Samsung Lenovo More Laptops up to 19"- Black https://amazon.com/dp/B0792YFVWZ/
office/kitchen chair, I have a set of Everlasting Comfort seat/back cushion that's been great: https://www.everlastingcomfort.net/products/seat-cushion-back-cushion-gel-infused
I gave up on my recliner, haven't really sat in it for ~2 years. It's either the floor or the above mentioned kitchen chair.
I don't have a travel pillow, when I was flying and in pain , I tried to plan my flights so no leg was longer than 2-3h. Driving we just stop about as often.
Sleeping, I have an Epabo pillow for when I was having shoulder pain, and a generic half-moon bolster for under either my back/knees as needed. We also have a memory foam bed.
I missed some of your previous questions:
- I'm usually 7-8/10 on the pain scale when standing for 3 minutes, which gradually increases from 0/10 after standing. The change of position doesn't really hurt with proper spine hygiene. I'm usually pain-free when lied down (except during some nights) or suspended. So instant 0/10 relief from the inversion table.
- I bought this one for home. Works fine and seems sturdy enough. I'm 90 kg, 6-ft. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B09GFFBNJ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
P.S. Make sure that the cause of your sciatica is known before going all-in with an approach.
I bought this one from Bob & Brad. Helped out a lot. Wish I would have bought one of these a long time ago. I was having some bad leg pain after my fusion and this thing helped so much. The one I got is on sale on Amazon right now. With a coupon they have I think it takes it down to like 90 bucks.
I will say spend the extra money to get a name brand unit and avoid the cheapo crap on Amazon. Spend a few bucks more and get something that's going to actually last.
I bought the TENS 7000 and it’s a total workhorse. No need to overspend.
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Tbh - I’ve spent the last several days/evenings attempting to notice this phenomenon with the boys but I really don’t. Maybe when I was younger I would have seen the movement, but at that time I just though I had two strained groins. I spent a long time misdiagnosed and healing the wrong stuff.
Now I’m mostly better if I keep up with the exercises. I’ll still get the nut pains as part of overall lower body discomfort associated with the sciatica, but I use arnica around my lower back, hips and groin which eases the discomfort. arnica info
I don’t actually buy it from Walmart, but that’s one of the brands I use.
Hope this helps. If you haven’t had this checked by a doc I would really recommend it. That’s where I started to get to this point.
You could try a combination of the following...
Read Dr Sarna's book healing back pain and visit the forums for the 40 day program. tmswiki.org
Find a chiropractor that isn't cracking backs for disc bulges. I actually found a good one that had a decompression table, and another table for manual flexion/distraction. He also had a TENS unit, laser therapy, and used manual massage.
For the next 8 hours from this post this table is on sale for $284.99
https://www.amazon.com/Teeter-FitSpine-Inversion-EZ-Reach-FDA-Registered/dp/B08H5R8C7L
Shower chair was key for me. If her shower doesn't have a wand attachment, something like this attachment might be helpful. A squeeze bottle similar to these might be helpful for toileting; you could also look into baby wipes, just so long as she's clear they can't get flushed.
On the back, legs elevated. I don’t have one (yet) but Amazon has these and I know they work well.
Leg Elevation Memory Foam Pillow with Removeable, Washable Cover - Elevated Pillows for Sleeping, Blood Circulation, Leg Swelling Relief and Sciatica Pain Relief - Pillow for Back Pain and Pregnancy https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07KFPQTM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_9NGAENGJ8TF4GX43EH4W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I was sleeping on the regular side of this mattress for a few weeks but felt no improvement. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7EVAXO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I kept feeling it was too soft, even though it was a medium firm mattress. The moment I flipped it over and started sleeping on the wrong side(that was much harder) I started recovering. I basically started feeling better in the morning.
Everyone's body is different. As long as you feel good in the morning/the bed makes you feel good, don't bother changing it. But the wrong bed can significantly impact recovery time, so that's just something to keep in mind.
Try to do the cobra pose few times whenever possible.
Don't sit for more than 20-30 minutes. Get up and walk for 5 minutes.
Use a lumbar pillow for support while traveling. This has been really helpful for me. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1N2CRA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
I would advice meeting your friends and boyfriend, but not exerting yourself while you are there. It can exacerbate your pain. I've gone for a 1-2 months with friends visiting at home when I'm in bed. It's still good to chat even if I can't do things/travel!
When I was visiting my parents I visited an Active Release Therapist who deals with all the injuries for our local NHL team. He did amazing things for me! I also bought a heating pad that gently vibrates the low back and it was a game changer!!
Comfier Heating Pad for Back - Heated Waist Belt Wrap with Vibration Massage, Fast Heat Pad Auto Shut Off, for Lumbar, Abdominal, Lower Back https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VRBLHMD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_7SW3H0E1XCWDZ0SRJ3CY
SZ-Climax Lower Back Brace Pain Relief - Double Pull Lumbar Support Belt for Relief Sciatica, Spinal Stenosis, Scoliosis or Herniated Disc (Size: M) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07XCPD8CD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_6CVA5FHZ4S9RW0ZJDM0X?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I purchased this yesterday and have been wearing it all day today. My symptoms have been improving recently anyway but I really felt like the support from this has made a difference today. Might be worth giving it a go. I am still focusing on my core strength etc but will be using this to help with everyday relief!
Here's the gun I bought. Feel like I have to do the "always consult with a physician first..." stuff. I'm in no way promoting this massage gun over others. It was on sale at the time, seemed a name brand and not a cheapo Chinese knock-off, but also nowhere near as expensive as the big name guns. Can't promise it will work wonders but it honestly has helped me:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CKWVYMF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hopefully the next injection will give her some relief. We mainly did mine so that I would have some peace of mind that my fusion was going to be in the right area. My disc between S5-L1 was shot so we were fairly confident that was the problem, but L5-L4 isn't the best either and there are still nerves coming out of there that can cause sciatic pain (usually it is S5-L1, however).
Right, but is it the stairs? The doorway? Getting to the shower stall/bathtub? Swinging your leg over the bathtub wall? I take it you're currently sleeping downstairs and therefore haven't gone upstairs?
Stairs you can try the four-legged method, taking weight on your hands as well as your feet. Cane and wall-leaning can help get you into the bathroom. Another possibility is a kiddie pool in the kitchen with a faucet attachment hose like this.
I had an endoscopic discectomy at l4-l5 and l5-s1 5 weeks back. I'm 23 M and a software engineer, can't really sit for > 5 mins. Did you mean you work on a laptop? And is it possible to WFH? I recently bought this desk and helps a lot although typing is a bit difficult. Might be helpful for you. All the best!
Agree with messing around with seats to see what works for you. I used car wedge cushions, sometimes just one and sometimes two stacked, because having my knees higher than my hips was painful; that was for house, office, and car. I also found the back of my old car's seat had particularly uncomfortable side wings so I put a few layers of cotton batting on the seat back and pulled a sweater over it to hold the cotton in place. (Looked creepy, worked great.) I'm a short person and dangling feet are a misery, so I have foot support most locations--I personally have found a yoga block easier to deal with and lug around than an office store footrest.
Although I agree that lumbar support is really helpful for comfortable car rides, i found that a cushion with a cutout for the tailbone was way more helpful for me and decreased lower back pain.
It helps me to sit more upright, engaging my core, and to have a more natural curve in my spine.
I've been using one like this for ages:
No, you must go to the one on Shelbyville Road! ;)
I use a ball chair which kind of shocked me on how well it worked, but I'm sure that the higher end ones are great.
Here is a PDF scanned copy of Stuart McGill's "Back Mechanic" book, I found it helpful and I hope you will as well.
https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/b1049cd8-5e77-47ea-8896-148e978f9f41
This link is good for 30 days, then it will be deleted automatically.
Thanks for your expertise. I think I am seeing some improvements also, but not in terms of pain. My improvements come from a flexibility standpoint, I can now go further down to touch my toes. But the only concerning part is I cannot sleep as well as I use to, the pain onsets quickly once i'm laying down. Here are some MRI pics.
I’m still going through it but the orthopedic doctor recommended physical therapy, manual therapy, and yoga for the time being. He would have recommended injections but I’m allergic to steroid medications. I’ve had it now about three months, it’s started after pelvic/abdominal surgery, probably due to the muscle guarding and tightness from the pain. I hope you find some relief. I did buy this, recommended from my pelvic floor therapist and use it on my muscles. I like it better than foam rolling.
Something to add! The back brace that I ordered off of Amazon has been a game changer. The extra sciatic pain I believe was coming from my piriformus muscle getting tight around the nerve has reduced by 75% with wearing this back brace: BraceAbility Lower Back & Spine Pain Brace | Adjustable Corset Support for Lumbar Strain, Arthritis, Spinal Stenosis and Herniated Discs (One Size - Fits Men & Women with 28" - 60" Waist) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077XJKB5T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_2031PBDG7848VSA590E7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I bought one of these a year ago. It really helped with my posture and standing usually helps relieve my sciatica.
Just be sure to look at the measurements to see if they'll fit your current desk and computer equipment.
I bought a similar pillow a long while ago, in the days before sciatica set in. I had bungled up my shoulder/upper back, and bought a number of "great for every sleeper" pillows since I tend to end up on my side/stomach. But lately I feel like my head rolls too much, so I've been interested in getting the one like you have. It's probably time to replace it.
The pillow I bought: https://www.amazon.com/EPABO-Orthopedic-Sleeping-Ergonomic-Cervical/dp/B07BKVG42X
There is a 95% or greater chance you can completely recover without surgery and there is clear evidence on that.
I strongly recommend reading the book “Back Mechanic” by Stuart McGill.
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Mechanic-Stuart-McGill-2015-09-30/dp/B01FKSGJYC
I have the same herniation. I place 1 tens pad right above my butt crack on one on the side of my butt cheek😂😂 it’s the best spot for me to get some relief. Here is the link to the tens machine I purchased from Amazon: TENKER EMS TENS Unit Muscle... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0936B4X1T?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It’s hard. I actually got it from Amazon on a whim of desperation lol let me link it Zinus 10 Inch Gel-Infused Green Tea Memory Foam Mattress, Queen https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01NH0QVM4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_59VRGCNRSFB4PQV5SWZE
I used a single crutch. Also highly recommend these if you do go with crutches. Crutcheze Premium USA Made Crutch Pad and Hand Grip Covers | Comfortable Underarm Padding Washable Breathable Moisture Wicking Anti-Bacterial Orthopedic Products Accessories (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0049PTOBS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1065JGNCYSQSR3BE0R6F?psc=1
I've got one very similar to this. It helps posture and to put pressure on you to help with spine alignment, actually squeezing you to pull the spine aiding in relief to the discs. I'd talk to a chiropractor before getting one depending on ones individual situation.
Have you tried a magic back? https://www.amazon.com/Back-Magic-Multi-Level-Stretching-Device/dp/B000YHP8HY
Some people drive with it and claim that it helps
I have a sciatica wedge cushion from Amazon I carry everywhere; car, computer chair, dinner table, in boat fishing, bleachers at the high school to watch my daughter swim. It’s amazing. No back, but the shape sort of forced your body into the proper posture position.
Everlasting Comfort Car and Truck Seat Cushion - Memory Foam Wedge Chair Driving Pillow (Black)
Yep. It helped me a lot in terms of standing or walking for longer periods of time with less pain, but I don't think it does much in terms of lying down. Here's one of several I have: https://www.amazon.com/Sacroiliac-Alleviate-Stabilize-Trochanter-Pilling-Resistant/dp/B078K759HK
Yes, you put the larger cups on and it massages the muscles. It’s a bit crazy feeling in the beginning because it’s weird lol but hot damn is it an amazing massage. Meifuly Cupping Sets https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0827P9NLF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_NA7THCYQ1RR2J9GFHBD1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
And this is the mat I got aka heaven on earth. I get really sore sometimes and this melts my pain away like magic. It’s expensive but you can use an FSA if you have: HealthyLine 3-in-1 Mesh Infrared... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSVQBB7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I’m returning to a desk job from home on Monday where I’ll be 10 days post-op. My plan is to work on my computer from a laying position in a zero gravity chair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DCTH8QN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share with a roll-up side table... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0773Q27XB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Going to ensure I get up every 45 min and take a short walk.
If putting on socks really hurts that much please consider getting a sock helper. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U9TWCXU/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_fabc_VSKJWQ3YT86D4NYYK6NC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have this, and a grabber stick (like for picking up garbage) that I use in the mornings when I'm at my stiffest/most pain.
In the mornings I get up, take Ibeuprofen, put on a Velcro heating pad (Ice doesn't work for me), and start walking around my apartment doing small chores with my grabber stick. The walking for sure helps, and the activity keeps my mind off the pain. I also drink a 28oz poweraid during this time, because of comment I read on here about being dehydrated in the mornings aggregating your discs. And then after that it's a hot shower. By the time I'm starting work then, things have usually calmed down.
I slept in this the first couple nights post-op. PORTAL Oversized Mesh Back Zero Gravity Recliner Chair, XL Padded Seat Adjustable Patio Lounge Chair with Lumbar Support Pillow and Side Table Support 350lbs (Dark Green) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B078WQRZMY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_PCZVK3S4PXJ8TW600SXR?psc=1
A moveable side table helped too. Tatkraft Like Portable Laptop Desk with Mouse Pad, Rolling Computer Stand with Adjustable Height, Sturdy and Ergonomic, White https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0773Q27XB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4QF8TXWZXQ059W9EHR9M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
- Hot baths
- Alternate cold packs and hot packs
- TENS machine (can be bought on Amazon or local drugstore for $20-$40). They really work to block/drown out nerve pain.
- CBD (especially at night)
- Anything that keeps you from twisting your back in the way that causes increased pain. Sometimes a compression hip belt can provide immediate relief.
I know exactly how you feel. I would sleep on my side with pillow and all. When I was about to get some sleep on my side it was super painful turning and trying to get out of bed. I tried out this contour max bed pillow and it has been awesome. I am finally able to get sleep. Yes it’s a bit pricey but for rest and finally being able to sleep is worth it. I attached the link so you can check it out. Trust me I never leave home without it when I go camping or on trips.
Contour BackMax Foam Bed Wedge Pillow Support System (20 Inch, BackMax Only) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CA5AG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6XDWT0W09ACD9DQHQ4FB
Solgar Sublingual Liquid B-12 2000 mcg with B-Complex, 2 oz - Supports Production of Energy - Nervous System Support - Promotes Heart Health - Vegan, Gluten Free, Kosher - 59 Servings https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0032MEMNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XQTCNDXPW037G2RXDNJM
This is the one I take, the solar sublingual 2000mcg. I didn’t pick it for any particular reason it just happened to be on the shelf on the vitamin store. Somebody at work told me her doctor told her to take large amount of b12 and d3 for a few months and the drop down the dosage and ever since she did it her sciatica hasn’t come back. I thought I’d give it a try and for me it seems to be the correct treatment.
It's only a negative if you agree with them. They only have their narrow view of life so don't let them set that tone for you. If it's possible to use and find, get yourself some interesting canes, make them wish they had a cane. Swap out occasionally for something different. Make it a fashion assesory as well as a cane. And don't ever, ever be ashamed because of somebody else's bad manners.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y2LXWHY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_HXZMN3GFDXDXJ6YCQP3D
This is the one I ordered.
Carex Toilet Seat Riser - Adds 5.5 Inch of Height to Toilet - Raised Toilet Seat with 300 Pound Weight Capacity - Slip-Resistant https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JPSHDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_X8XK530ZH4RXGNRYGP4R?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Oof good luck: sitting in the car is my primary pain trigger. I use this Mackenzie pillow , which does help (but doesn’t solve it)
Amazon has them for $28. Just get some extra pads and some 9v batteries.
TENS 7000 2nd Edition Digital TENS Unit With Accessories https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NCRE4GO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CM4008HR5N5FKDGDJSD3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I had good luck with my kitchen chair, but I stole my husband's adjustable height foot rest (it's a taller chair) and bought a set of chair cushions (the lumbar + posture/U-shaped seat cushion).
It worked well the last flare up, but this one I haven't quite gotten comfortable. I'm assuming it's because I'm having trouble with that position overall right now.
I would recommend giving this book a read.
Also not sure where you are specifically but might be worth reaching out to another specialty clinic dedicated to the spine if you haven’t already. Maybe they’ll see something.
Also I would recommend this book as well.
Not that you are chasing surgery right now but he makes some connections in that book between stress/emotions and pain. Definitely worth a read.
I got this recently and I think it’s working. A little rough on the legs at first but you get used to it. Definitely makes you not slouch.
Varier Variable Balans Original Kneeling Chair Designed by Peter Opsvik (Turquoise Revive Fabric with Natural Ash Base) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074VXZQXT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_68YAEDVWE9CX3E34P7CS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
If you have money to spend, then Ergoquest has some good options.
I work lying down, either on a couch or in bed. I have a cheap laptop tray that works well in bed, but if you need dual monitors, that probably won't work.
I’m gonna focus on the Title Question. How to mentally overcome sciatic. Take a look at this book “Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection” https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000FA5SGG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Jaj5FbZZW7QYW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This book focuses on the mental aspect of back injury and pain. I had a physical injury that needed surgery but this book helped me deal with my symptoms (pain aspect) for my 2 year wait before surgery.
Good morning. Unfortunately my exact model is listed as unavailable. But I feel like they all kind of do the same thing. I like the choice of having 2 or 4 electro pads and I like the choice of a variety of patterns. Most seem to do that. You don't need to spend hundreds... This is the exact tens that I have: This is the exact tens that I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07STZHD2X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Recommend the TEN UNIT, BLACK FRIDAY Price is very cost-effecttive
I was just dealing with this last week. Icing is so important. I made the mistake of applying heat and it made it so much worse. I also started going to a chiropractor who specializes sciatica pain treatment. I’ve went all last week except sat/sun. I went today and I’m starting acupuncture tomorrow. Monday of last week I was not even able to use the bathroom without being In excruciating pain and crying when I got back to bed. Like your mom the mornings are always worst for me as well. I’m attaching the link of the ice packs that I use the ones that I got from my chiropractor are not available for shipment on Amazon but these are the same brand and I’m sure they’ll work just as well. I have been icing every day since last week 6 to 7 times a day, even waking up at night to Ice as well and it’s helped so much. Wishing her the best this type of pain is complete misery. 😞
Core Products Soft Comfort CorPak Hot and Cold Therapy - 6" X 10" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LVCPJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_11zVFbF1ZTB1W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
After years of dealing with chronic pain I was introduced to something called CryoDerm and it's changed my life. I use this whenever I have a flare up (like right now) and it definitely helps take the edge off and provides relief long enough to fall asleep. They have a cold and a heat therapy and although I have not tried the heat, if it's anything like the cold I would say it's definitely worth a shot. I recommend the roll-on because I find it's less messy and way easier to apply to yourself. You can get it off of amazon for around 10 bucks.
I can't sit down at all, so this is a challenge I understand.
I do most of my work laying down, either on a couch, or on a bed in my office.
I have to be sort of careful, because propping my head up on pillows sometimes causes neck pain. Now I use this little laptop tray, which allows me to work with my head at a comfortable angle.
I also have a treadmill desk, and rigged up a standing desk, but if you have plantar fasciitis that probably won't work for you.
In case you're interested, I have photos of my office setup at: My New Home Office Is Sitting Disability Approved.