No, realize that all of your traffic goes through the VPN, and the connection is only as secure as the host. I would not use a google or amazon vpn because they would be monitoring that connection for every bit of data they could get.
Paying for a VPN that guarantees the connection is private is the best route. and express vpn both have total private contracts.
"PCMag is owned by j2 Global, a company that also owns many software/service products including , IPVanish, and StrongVPN"
No mention of that in their glowing review of IPVanish
It’s worth it if you want what it provides, and don’t want to manage stuff yourself.
Ad blocking replaces a Pi Hole.
1Password and now cost less overall.
Plus will naturally have more partnerships later.
Most importantly, it’s a great way to support a great small team. These subscriptions are where the majority of their profit as a company will come from. Hardware is expensive. Distribution is expensive. Advertising is expensive. Eero Plus is how Eero stays alive.
If you like Eero, pay for Eero Plus as a donation, and consider the features as nice-to-haves.
is my email as opposed to google or yahoo.
is included with my Eero plus subscription for $99/year.
It’s not so hard as you think. Duck duck Go and shopping from distributor shops and online stores is rather easy.
Finally, I’m only using apple products.
I already use Google DNS. As for the adblocker, I use this but not on mobile devices. My router has an adblock feature that I use but these ads are getting around that somehow (I contacted the router manufacture for help with this).
And yea I have for VPN access which is normally pretty fast. Someone else in my family uses a text-to-speech device that you can't install a VPN client on. And my router doesn't support full home VPN access (and I really don't want to do that).
EDIT: I actually use the DNS of my router manufacture. Normally I would be against this but the company is pretty reputable (Eero) and it is used for home networking filtering.
Also, adding a VPN will reduce speed, and can possibly cripple your streaming services. I’ve had Hulu (and others) refuse to start when using (part of eero+) because it can’t verify my country.
My $.02, don’t knee jerk, it’s unlikely changes will be seen immediately.
Depends on what you use VPN for. I use VPN to keep myself protected on public WiFi, for this works fine and the logs don’t bother me as that is not what I’m trying avoid. However, if you are using a VPN for anonymity then isn’t for you.
Apple is great, but third party products can create experiences that enhance the apple ecosystem as well.
I have 3 eero in my home and subscribe to eero plus. This means i get 700mbps over the air all over my home with built in security and ad block from eero plus.
Bonus: eero plus comes with 1Password, malwarebytes, and family plans for free. Woot. I doubt apple could top that, honestly.
I got it alone for the 1Password and , the other items were just a bonus. I already subscribed to 1Password for $5 a month, so adding another $4 was a no brainier. So far it's been really great.
is fine, especially being bundled with eero plus. Never had any issues with it; I use it on both iOS and macOS. Auto-connect and transporter are nice features. Performance is good. It works great for personal use, I have no desire to seek a replacement.
I misstated that. They aren’t watching everything I’m doing per say but they are logging it.
- PIA absolutely does not keep any logs, of any kind, period. We can unequivocally state that our company has not and still does not maintain metadata logs regarding when a subscriber accesses the VPN service, how long a subscriber's use was, and what IP address a subscriber originated from. Moreover, the encryption system does not allow us to view and thus log what IP addresses a subscriber is visiting or has visited.
I just feel better about using a VPN with no logs.
My quick take...
Every home needs digital security if you have a bunch of connected devices — I like buying new gadgets so I have a bunch and our network-based security is really helpful.
I travel a lot and also use my laptop at coffee shops, so having VPN via is really helpful.
Even Macs get sick sometimes, so having Antivirus is important.
Lastly, everyone should have a password manager and 1Password is great. It works across platforms and I’ve had an account since the early days.
All of this is worth well more than $100 a year to me (and on the open market). Hence eero Plus. Any feedback on the feature set we’d love to hear. There’s a long road ahead and we’re working hard to make it better and better.
I agree that eero Plus could definitely benefit from some improvement. I think if they did incremental improvements to the service similar to the app or firmware. I hope they aren't storing up all the eero Plus changes for some big bang release.
I originally had my eero in bridged mode with a EdgeRouter X but I found that I really missed a lot of the manageability features from the eero app.
I'm sure eero Plus will improve, they've mentioned multiple times that there are improvements coming. They did add the 3 services you get for free in December (1Password, MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, and ). While these didn't actually improve the eero Plus service, it added a lot of value to owning the service and if you take advantage of these now included 3rd party applications you'll most likely increase your security posture.
I think it's a great deal. I had already been using a 1Password family account, and had been considering a VPN service. is great — really easy to use and, on iOS at least, can automatically connect when you connect to a new wi-fi network. I don't use the VPN service at home, though I can understand that being frustrating for somebody looking for a router-based solution.
I'm sure it's been submitted as a feature request, but there is a link in the sidebar to make the request yourself.
One thing I should note is that you'll need to contact 1Password support to switch your existing account over to the eero plus billing. It's really painless, but if you are on an existing plan with a bunch of time prepaid, you might consider waiting until it's just about to expire so as not to lose any of it.
Agreed. Until Eero and/or Amazon specifies their plan, we need to raise concerns.
Amazon's ad business is one of their rising stars, and it stands to benefit the more they know about you.
I am hoping data harvesting would come in the form of "opt in". Could be cheaper Eero similar to Kindle Special Offers or discounted/free Eero Plus subscription.
Speaking of Eero Plus, I worry about its fate. Malwarebytes and 1Password might be safe (although they probably will be subject to renegotiation), but I am not sure VPN ( would be in the best interest to Amazon. It might also be rolled into umbrella home subscription that includes Ring and few others.
Having said that, I strongly doubt existing Eero units will be affected (in terms of data harvesting and/or advertisement).
eeroPlus has a few nice options
I don't see any way to make configuration changes like that in the iOS app, but I can't speak to the other clients. With that said, I don't think is really the best option for avoiding Imperial entanglements...
I was testing out , which will automatically bring up a VPN on non-trusted networks. You can easily whitelist networks that it should leave alone. It doesn't have the configurability that some VPNs have, such as specifying which country you want to route through, etc., but that might not be an issue for you.
We have a VPN partner () through eero Plus for securing your connection when you're on the go.
In terms of getting back to your home, we're exploring some options. Basically, 99% of our customers have very limited upload speeds and if you VPN'd back to your home, you're going to have a lousy experience.
What I did personally is I have an RPi that I can establish an SSH connection to in case I need it.
We had somebody recently have this issue and their devices ended up being connected to their cable modem that still had it's wifi on. Any chance that's the issue here?
The constant network security is great for keeping other connected devices safe. You also get 1Password, Malwarebytes, and VPN
All of that said, if you're really looking for privacy and anonymity, then this isn't the service you should be looking for to provide that.
The terms of service should certainly be sufficient to protect you from behavior-based profiling, but if you really want to keep what you're doing from anyone's eyes, then you want to be looking into solid VPN service providers and/or solutions like the Tor project.
eero Plus is providing a service, but not that service. :)
EDIT: Also, doesn't provide that service either. They provide some basic (and pretty good) protections when connecting to open / potentially un-encrypted WiFi networks, but they do not claim to provide complete privacy and anonymity like you can find with other solutions.
eero is a mesh wireless router system. You’ll still need Internet from an ISP and a modem.
eero provides a great home network experience by allowing you to add additional eero to the network to continue to increase the distance that your house gets wifi.
They do a fantastic job in the hardware, software, security, documentation, customer support etc.
I recommend this company to everyone.
eero Plus is a yearly subscription service they offer which also does things like blacklist / protect you from malicious websites, block-ads at a DNS level so they don’t load on your devices and give you access to 1Password password manager, MalwareBytes Antimalware software, and VPN service.
explicitly states that they log everything and keep it for up to 16 days. From their website:
> When you use to secure your connection, we collect:
> * The number of bytes sent and received
> * The amount of time been connected
> * The IP address connected from and the (virtual) IP we assign
> * The source port of the outgoing connection with start and end times
> We keep this information for at most sixteen (16) days, after which we permanently delete it.
While it's good that they are open about their logging policies, they do keep some logs, so that's worth keeping in mind.
I never used much in the way of deep router settings - I had Apple Airports before switching to eero (the Airports couldn’t get decent coverage once we moved from a condo to a house) so I can’t really weigh in on the security settings aspect of things. But....
I had 1Password on my iDevices and Mac, but merged it to the shared vault plan once I upgraded to eero plus because why not. No issues there; I always liked 1Password a lot before anyway and now password sharing with the wife is easier.
is where it really shines for me; there’s no secure WiFi at work, as everything is hardwired for security. I end up using public WiFi the entire workday and ’s auto-on is seamless. I had NordVPN before, but would often forget to turn it on and off, so the makes one less thing to remember.
Can’t weigh in on the malwarebytes; haven’t experimented with it yet.
tl;dr: haven’t found any issues and think eero plus is worthwhile
It’s really about security more than anything. If you want total privacy you need to pay for a service that doesn’t log and is based outside of the five eyes. mainly provides the protection on public WiFi.
Here’s what they say they collect:
>The number of bytes sent and received
>The length of time connected
>The IP address connected from and the (virtual) IP we assign
>The source port of the outgoing connection with start and end times
So they’re not logging the URLs or domains you visit, only your IP, how long you were connected and when, the number of bytes sent and received, and the source port of the outgoing connection.
This would be useful if, for example, a server owner reported abuse from an IP address within the last 16 days. They could figure out which user did it and ban them.
But they do not keep a record of the sites you visit, which is what most are concerned with when taking about logging.
If you’re willing to switch VPNs, already does this. You add your trusted networks in the app as you connect to them and it will always then the VPN on when you’re connected to a network it doesn’t recognize
Adding to this, eero is tri band while beacons are dual band. The pro package comes with 3 eeros and is what I recommend for 3000 sq ft. Beacons are easier to place (no wires to hide), if that matters to you.
The content filtering, in addition to pausing, allows you to filter out adult, illegal and criminal, or violent content. You can apply these filters to a group of devices you choose under family profiles.
I agree, eero plus is a great value for network wide protection, alone. It also comes with 1Password password manager, malwarebytes anti malware, and vpn services.
Sounds like a peering issue with your ISP.
Turning on the VPN eero offers basically transports that device from your houses' network (including internal), and acts as if its sitting in a datacenter where operates. So if that data center doesn't have a peering issue, you get it faster.
The only caveat to a VPN, is if your ISP has a peering issue to the datacenter is 'moving' your traffic to. Then, all traffic, not just some websites, will be slower.
In conjunction with , I have a subscription to ProtonVPN. I definitely like how on , I can have an unlimited number of devices, and it works decently well. I always have it connected on my devices, since I’m 90% of the time on public WiFi. I use ProtonVPN when I’m having problems with (sometimes it’s just way too slow), or, when I need to use a no-logs and better privacy-focused VPN. Sadly. Proton limits you to like 5 devices at a time. So takes the bulk of my VPN use. I would highly recommend ProtonVPN if you’re looking for speed and better privacy focus (ie. no-logs policy, country hopping, etc), but if you’re just fine with basic VPN service, and works well, stick with that.
There have been a few other threads about this but the short recap is that is fine for providing basic privacy protection when you're connecting to untrusted / public / open Wi-Fi, but it's not the right solution if you're looking for robust privacy and anonymity.
The fact that it turns itself on automatically when you connect to an untrusted network is really nice. You don't have to think about it, it just happens.
If you want more robust privacy and anonymity (or better performance, especially at high bandwidths), then some of the other suggestions folks have already made are better options. I personally use .
I use . Amazing UI on mac, and easy to send traffic to a particular country (e.g., USA).
Also, Cloudflare's new 22.214.171.124 apps for mobile look amazing. They encrypt DNS traffic on cell phones, which addresses a big security + surveillance issue. I think this is a good middle-ground between full VPN on phone and no security. [link]
eero Plus protects your DNS requests from your ISP's prying eyes, by which I mean deep packet inspection. It does not protect the content of those sites from your ISP, but if you use HTTPS Everywhere or a similar browser extension, then that will help with that.
It does not provide (and is not intended to provide) anonymity or privacy against governments or, of course, the sites themselves.
provides a higher level of security against inspection on the wire, but similarly does not and is not intended to provide anonymity or protect against government examination.
Do you have access to wifi?
Consider installing Sudo (webrtc), and a VPN (mini plan from is cheap and competent).
Think that VPN runs $3US/mo ....
Your regular 911 PSTN phone system would still work.
Check out US Mobile (they may serve Canada too).
Kindle Unlimited is worth it in my opinion at $10. The others are definitely debatable. My wife swears by Audible but in that atleast you get to keep the book(s) after your subscription runs out.
I do agree with you generally speaking. To me the only Eero Plus feature I truly use is 1Password. I use NordVPN for my VPN so do not care about and installed MalwareBytes for no other reason than I got it as part of Eero Plus.
What I can see happening is actually Eero Plus adding more functionality and features with the Amazon buyout but keep the cost about the same. Sure, bundling it would help them sell more Eero's but in a world where everyone is going subscription based I think Amazon would actually prefer to keep that as a more steady source of revenue.
Definitely no other WiFi here. I replaced my Ubiquiti gear with Eero and have a “plain” cable modem that does a single function.
I definitely see the value for many in the other services, but MB and 1PW have no value to me (reasons noted above). The labs features and seem to be the biggest value add to me at this point.
Carrot weather- $0.83
Apple Music- $8
Eero plus- $8 which includes 1password and VPN for free.
Total per month= $58
Total per month for just apps- $13
With all of that, the answer was right in front of me. Somehow had changes to an older account Of mine that had expired. Back to normal now with the newer account.
Sometimes the simple solution is right in front of our eyes. Thanks everybody for your help tho.
I'm as up to date as can be, but I'm also just a dumbass. I use , and, well, my Eero wasn't a trusted network, so I was on VPN without knowing or thinking about it...
I'm now getting between 65-90 mbps, which, while considerably less than my Pixel 2 XL, is about what I was getting before and is lot better than 20 mbps, so I blame the the computer (and it's also now having me on 2.4 at the moment, so I think that's pretty good for that, personally). :)
A non issue. No one should ever use public wifi without a VPN. We have 3ea subscriptions (plenty of available seats) but prefer the mini plane from because it's less obtrusive. When we're home - VPN automatically fades away. Anywhere else - we're protected.
Probably 95% of our phone traffic goes through wifi because cellular coverage within buildings is so poor.
Yea we're not really sure what's up with the VPNs. Many (like NordVPN and AirVPN, we've seen before here) seem to be messing with the 1Password app's secure connection to our servers.
A few quick questions if you're up for some troubleshooting:
How's your internet speed (a number in Mbps would be perfect) with Proton VPN going?
How are you connected to your router—ethernet or via WiFi?
Are you able to connect to and use your account just fine online with Proton VPN running?
I did test NordVPN on my Windows 10 PC and couldn't break 1Password for Windows and its connection. Also, I use on all my devices on a daily basis, so if you're in the mood for a switch of VPN providers you can switch to them and all your connection problems (should) go away magically.
Eero just announced a great partnership with 1Password, , and malwarebytes. It’s $99 a year for all that plus eero plus, which is a security watchdog and ad block for your home WiFi.
I signed up immediately. The part were hip will go into effect in December.
Anyone else interested?
Has anyone else ever seen partnerships like this before between hardware and software subscriptions?
I’m a HUGE fan of the ad blocking. Even redid some wiring to get my Ethernet network under the eero umbrella to make sure all devices are covered. They were previously separate due to some things being in poor locations.
My 1Password Families subscription is now free because of it, and I stopped paying for my VPN and began using the free service instead - it’s really great, especially the feature to only turn on the VPN when connected to networks you haven’t marked as trusted.
The only con I’ve found is that it is $99 a year. 1Password cost me $50 a year, and my VPN was $40 a year and I’d totally pay $9 a year for ad blocking so I consider it an easy wash. The malware blocking is an added bonus, too!
I use both. I like the automatic protection on unknown networks feature of , which has been available for quite some time now. PIA just introduced this feature, too, but I find it quite buggy. It often doesn’t turn off properly and chooses weird servers to connect to. I’ve lost internet connectivity only to discover that PIA’s protection feature has left me connected to the VPN, which has stopped working for some reason. never does this. PIA works fine when toggled manually, however.
I like the benefit of automatically protecting me on public WiFi, but when I’m looking for anonymity I use PIA.
Thanks for your reply. Here are the answers:
Based on , VPN speed is maxing out my connection download speed (150 Mbps) and upload is 12 Mbps.
Yes I can. Also, 1PasswordX works fine too.
While I have not tried service, I do know that they keep logs and emphasize that their primary focus is security rather than privacy.
We're using Wifi a lot these days via (formerly cloak). It's apparently just an automatic shell for the iphone's built in VPN. Believe you can buy passes for their system through itunes , but I'd recommend their $3/month plan directly billed instead. YMMV.
We only use VPNs for protection from open wifi (keeping stuff out) really for hiding traffic - since our phones only support Signal. Never email or browsing.
Other VPN suppliers might support more advanced features, but this one works reliably and automatically. "Automatic" is their focus. We have OpenVPN on one phone with a reliable supplier - but never use it.
Go this route and your cellphone data use drops to near nothing. Believe last month my personal phone consumed 25MB :) Allows me to fund that phone with $4/month (Not counting that $3/mo VPN spread over 4ea phones).
Yes, disabling the beta ad blocking feature of eero Plus works, but it doesn't kick in immediately... You have to leave it off for a while (I haven't bothered figuring out how long, exactly), but then the CNN app connects just fine.
Also, (or any other off-network VPN) works because it basically puts your device on another network, and outside the scope of the eero network.
Similarly, connecting to the eero Guest network works, because the eero Plus filtering doesn't apply to that network.
True. I'm not saying they're bad for doing it -- just pointing out what their particular logging level is. Depending on your VPN needs/desires, that level of logging may or may not be acceptable to you. You can get enough data to maintain your service with minimal, anonymized logging. There's really no reason to log the end-user's IP address or account name unless you want to use it for billing/tracking/support purposes. Since bills based on bandwidth, it sounds like they may just use that for billing purposes.
I’m using iOS, personally, so not Android in my case.
I do think it might be switching back and forth from OpenVPN and connections though.
Last night I tried disconnecting WiFi (via the Control Center) before enabling OpenVPN. As soon as I disconnected from OpenVPN and re-enabled WiFi, lost its mind.
Guess I'll see what support has to say!
I mean 1Password on its own would cost $60. I though that iCloud Keychain would be good enough since thats free on my Apple devices but then I tried 1Password and it’s very nice. As long as Malwarebytes, , and 1Password come with it I will buy eero plus every year. Which I’m sure is what they want for reoccurring income to keep developing software for eero.
Yeah, that could be. I saw your comment on the question as well, and I’ve seen similar glitches with connections getting stuck in some funky “semi-connected” state.
On the side at least the connection usually stops passing traffic — which is irritating but, I think, preferable. I’d rather have a VPN fail to blocking traffic than fail to letting me think communications are private when they’re not. :)
I'd also highly suggest Eero. Insanely good customer service, constantly active in /r/Eero, regular updates, tri-band, Eero Plus service (active threat scan, ad blocking, family-safe browsing, VPN, 1Password, Malwarebytes), and more.
I use PIA and . PIA is hands down a better service in my opinion but they serve different purposes.
PIA is for true online anonymity. Can be used for purposes that are strictly prohibited by .
is more of a protection of your personal data from open networks and other snoops on networks you may frequent.
If you haven't already, try signing out of and logging back in.
I doubt that will help if you're experiencing issues across all devices but it's worth a shot (it usually solves that issue on a single device at least).
Thank you for sharing a paritcular tool/setup when using a VPS such as DO. Definetly something I'll take a closer look at if I do the VPS route. At this moment however, hoping in particular to determine the differences in speed (in general) when using a hosted service (like , vs a local vpn. If you have any thoughts on those different types of setups based on experience with each would love to hear. Thanks again!
Well first, I try not to use anything google for privacy reasons. Secondly, eero is tri-band and google WiFi is only dual band. So better communication between access points and more bandwidth on the furthest hop. The setup seemed easier too and eero updates their software regularly. I saw performance among users was better on eero then google WiFi so ultimately I chose eero. So glad I did the user experience and ease of use is awesome. And their security suite of eero plus also includes , one password, and malware bytes along with their on network security. I really encourage you to go to their website. Eero is very “Apple-esk” if they were to make a mesh system. This was my perspective coming from an AirPort Extreme and express for the network originally. I also like that eero is not affiliated with any kind of phone or software. So I felt they would play nicely with my mostly Apple device home.
I use , but I think it’s not available for Android. Other good ones I’ve used in the past (not order) is NordVPN, VyprVPN, PIA (Private internet Access), ExpressVPN, TunnelBear, and IPVanish. PIA is common cheap one, never used it not sure on the speeds. But most of these VPNs are common and well used. Ive used NordVPN and VyprVPN. Both are very good, but I’m not sure if they have a refund policy.
Speed tests: they do drop about 10%, but I don’t think you’ll notice it too much. I’m sure they’ll do find for YouTube and browsing the web
Interestingly, uses OpenVPN on Mac, but on iOS they say they use the iOS native IPsec stack. I've switched OpenVPN on without disabling WiFi and it seems to be ok, just auto-switching between the two VPN configs. I'm trying to get an easily reproduced scenario before I reach out to support, but haven't nailed it down yet.
It does have an impact (like any VPN) but it usually isn’t noticeable to me, at least when using the “fastest available” server setting.
I only use when I’m away from my home WiFi though, so the speed and latency is more dependent on the network I’m connected to than the VPN. To me knowing that my traffic is encrypted at all times on public WiFi networks is worth any bandwidth reduction.
Yes, uses the native Cisco IPSec client on iOS, or so their Website says. I have to say this client is ROCK solid -- Cisco worked with Apple on it years ago and I was a beta tester for it. (It is the old Intraport/Cisco 5000 VPN technology.) I still use the iOS IPSec client almost every day (with another VPN server) and it remains very solid.
Will try that. FYI -- I have been running and OpenVPN at the same time on my phone, for fun. It seems to work -- I guess they operate at different network layers?
Good luck with support.
I just downloaded it and started playing with it. I have my own OpenVPN server at home I use so is really
more of an experiment. So far, though, it has been very seamless and automatic. It has been completely stable with iOS 10.3.3. I've been messing with all the settings and so far have been unable to get it to crash or not work when it should. I like it!
Maybe the issue is the Android client?
Get an eero system. It’s the apple of router makers.
Also eero plus is a security software for $100 a year that blocks bad sites, hacks, and botnets. It includes a network wide ad blocker, and free subscriptions to 1Password, malwarebytes, and .
Really it’s the best thing out there.
You seem to be talking out of your ass here. Lol but what can I expect. I’m on reddit.
In order for a service to run in the United States, they must abide by our laws. Both of these companies have several servers in the US.
is stationed in the US, and is in the British Virgin Islands.
I don’t need to sue them anyway because they are trusted companies. I currently use and it is a great service.
Using and SparkMail caused a week's worth of sent messages to completely disappear from two Gmail accounts (personal and work). They are nowhere--not in the trash or anywhere else. They were sent because I can see them in threaded replies to my original messages. Help would be appreciated--this is a serious issue.
Well, apparently in my case, it's definitely something to do with the eero network, or with the fact that the eero network's hanging off another network / double-NAT'd.
If I connect directly to my ISP router's WiFi, the streaming works.
If I connect from the eero network with off-network VPN enabled (, or OpenVPN to AirVPN), the streaming works.
If I connect to my home network from LTE via OpenVPN to the eero network, streaming doesn't work.
Isn’t a vpn? I’m new to it but I think that’s what it is. Somehow the interplay of it and Spark are causing the issue. Spark is totally non-responsive so thought I’d try in this forum instead.
I have been using Vyprvpn for a couple of years now, and the service has been pretty good. It's reliable and speed is fast enough that I don't notice a difference. Does anybody have a comparison between and Vyprvpn? Both in performance and terms/conditions? I know vyprvpn isn't torrent friendly but that's not a concern here. I am more concerned about how many servers they have scattered, the speed and reliability.
Well that was easy! Might be a good idea for the Eero folks to clarify that. It isn't obvious that an existing customer should do the "Create Free Account".
Looking forward to the refund. :)
Jacob from here! We do enable BitTorrent, after a period of time, and that's all automated. We disable BT by default to discourage signing up and abusing the service - as, /u/MAscooby pointed out by the link. It is worth noting that this, even if not using
To answer your question though - if you want BT enabled, drop us an email and we'll get that handled.
I personally use . Mostly because it turns on automatically when I’m connected to a WiFi network that is not listed on my ‘trusted’ networks. I travel for work and always use the hotel WiFi so this is a deal breaker for me. I believe that Tunnel Bear offers the same functionality but I haven’t tried that app yet. Besides it was included as part of a package through Eero
Ran another test but this time used TunnelBear as the VPN client. This time only one server was reported - Digital Ocean.
Trying to figure out if there should be a concern that when using it reports the 6 Google servers. Trying to stay clear of all Google services if possible.
is a full fledged VPN service. There’s nothing pseudo about it. :)
When installing certificates needed to access a WiFi network you’re actually installing the certificate used to accomplish authentication. So, in short, no they wouldn’t see where your data is going except random gibberish to one of our IPs, with no actual data being exposed.
Some networks block VPNs, which in that case it’s going to be protocol specific. We see some cases of this, but, not too widespread. In some work environments using third party VPN services can be against the agreement you have with them. Those are typically the times we see specific networks enforce blocking VPNs with more scrutiny at their firewall. As mentioned above, we don’t see this widespread but admittedly have seen it.
I’ve been using Eero Pro and it’s been pretty good, especially with having 1PW families baked in, but I set up a Raspberry Pi with Pi-Hole, re-upped my sub to PIA for three years on a great discount, and I don’t use MalwareBytes.
I used for the times where PIA wouldn’t work, mostly some public WiFi spots, and the connect on demand feature is nice. PIA has all that now and works better on my usual hotspots.
At this point, with gone, idk why I’m still using Eero Plus.
We subscribe to three VPNs. All handle the iphone, but the last one was purchased expressly for iphone use. The $3 monthly plan from .
The other VPNs work fine. is just more convenient. Very automatic.
Try US Mobile. They are not the cheapest, but they are easy to deal with and you can buy more capacity in small chunks. Buy only data, then install a webrtc app to your iphone (). Then install the mini plan from ($3/mo). Install Signal too.
Forget about using LTE regularly. Try to maximize your wifi use. Buy more LTE capacity only when you are cornered.
If you were out and about all the time this would not work. But as you mentioned - you have wifi. My bet is that you could easily (without pain) cut your cell bill to nothing.
When your situation changes - you'll need to switch from wifi back to cellular.
. I get it as part of an extra service with my router. I like it because it automatically connects on any wifi network that I haven't set as trusted. Though even without that, google vpn would kick in on some (I have a Pixel).
is very reputable and a quality service. It has cool features like automatically enabling and disabling itself.
However, if you’re willing to get a bit technical, you can make your own VPN with OpenVPN. I have one on my Raspberry Pi that I connect to if I really don’t trust the network I’m on.
Red Pocket $60/yr plan through Ebay
VPN (Recommend - we have access to 8ea seats on other providers, still subscribe to their mini plan $3/mo). was bought no idea how long we'll feel this way :)
Get in the habit of using Signal Private Messenger. The Sudo app, soon Mysudo would be a good option to gain Twilio webrtc lines IF Sudo ever gets their act together. They have great ideas, but right now appear to only be a way to separate VC investors from their money. Plenty talk - no do.
There are so many players in the field and so many factors that go into a decision that it’s hard to make a solid recommendation. I’ll point you to The Wirecutter’s VPN review.
Personally, I’ve used PIA and because they seemed easy, relatively inexpensive, and established enough that they probably aren’t run by a guy with a server in his basement hoping to blackmail you. has a nice feature where you can identify “trusted” WiFi networks and if you joking anything untrusted, it will automatically flip on and block all your traffic until the VPN is established.
has been super solid for me (it’s included with my Eero Plus subscription). I don’t bother to use it at home unless I want to spoof my location for whatever reason, but I DO NOT CONNECT to other peoples’ or public wifi without one. You don’t know what they’ve got on their network.
TL;DR: Any wifi network other than your own: yes.
Cryptostorm isn't bad, and has much going for it. But when we had it some years back - it never could keep up a connection 24/7. And while their client has isn't up to others. Still - may try it again if I can find a token reseller.
AirVPN's client is rock solid. Linux too. And their service can keep up a connection for months.
IBVPN is what we use in libraries. One of the few services supporting softether. They are now including shadowsocks on their primary client (which I don't much like) and are supposedly still getting out of China.
is the best iphone VPN I've found. Quite seamless transitions between LTE and wifi. It uses the standard iphone VPN - nothing special there. Just seems to make better use of it. I've tried others - keep going back.
No drama VPN clients are important. Most are poorly coded.
Right now I’m getting 180-250 mb/s speeds. If I want to stream video with my VPN on (Eero+ gives me VPN) I am going to need speeds that are relatively quick. Can you recommend a little router that packs enough punch for this and would support VPN protocols?
Agreed. Eero can do a lot better than , features, and privacy. If Eero offers a better VPN, I would subscribe to Eero Plus in a heartbeat.
ProtonVPN & Mullvad are the best VPNs I have come across when it comes to privacy. NordVPN is on the second tier for me as so is all
and laptops. You download, login, then whenever you connect to an unknown network it automatically kicks in. I can vouch for it having excellent speed/coverage worldwide as well.
My company gives us licenses for . Overall I’m happy with it, though there are a few public WiFi spots that it can’t connect to and it cause issues (airplane in flight WiFi and certain hotel chains)