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Don’t use Google DNS unless you’re comfortable with Google tracking all of your internet activity. Cloudflare’s DNS (1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1) is a better option for privacy and performance. An audit by a 3rd party in 2020 supports their claims about privacy (full report here).

It’s worth it if you want what it provides, and don’t want to manage stuff yourself.

Ad blocking replaces a Pi Hole. 1Password and now cost less overall. Plus will naturally have more partnerships later.

Most importantly, it’s a great way to support a great small team. These subscriptions are where the majority of their profit as a company will come from. Hardware is expensive. Distribution is expensive. Advertising is expensive. Eero Plus is how Eero stays alive.

If you like Eero, pay for Eero Plus as a donation, and consider the features as nice-to-haves.

Haven't found one that doesn't work.

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Currently using this one... https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Splitter-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=8+port+gigabit+hub&qid=1568396764&sr=8-3

You want to just use an unmanaged switch. I've had really good luck with TP-Link switches. I have 3 of them in my house and I have no issues with them and my eero.

Example: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Ethernet-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1548218004&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link+8+port+gigabit+switch

Looks like a cool product. Not to be a Debby Downer, but I checked out your app, and the first review I saw was from Jordan:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eero.android

> Wow! eero changed everything! This has been a huge improvement in my home WiFi! Also a really nicely designed app.

A trip to linked in shows: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-jozwiak-77a9a770

> I'm eero's first full-time Android Developer!

> The first home WiFi system, eero blankets customers’ homes in fast, reliable WiFi. Instead of a single router, eero uses multiple access points placed throughout your home to create a wireless mesh network that covers every room. eero seeks to fix home WiFi once and for all. Based in San Francisco and founded in 2014, eero is privately funded by First Round Capital, Shasta Ventures, Redpoint Ventures and Playground Global. For more information, visit eero.com.

If you've got a good product, you shouldn't need to BS the ratings system. Tell Jordan to knock it off.

Run https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm and see what DNS servers are fastest for you. The defaults are pretty good. I don't remember if a few OpenDNS or some other opensource DNS are on there or not. I spent like 20 minutes finding "best DNS servers" online and adding to the test list. I removed all dead servers, and redirecting after running the test.

Then you have to be comfortable with who owns the server and if they log your requests. I have 4 of my favorites for ipv4 and ipv6. It seems pihole whittles down to its favorite 1 or 2, though.

Depends on what you use VPN for. I use VPN to keep myself protected on public WiFi, for this works fine and the logs don’t bother me as that is not what I’m trying avoid. However, if you are using a VPN for anonymity then isn’t for you.

Also, adding a VPN will reduce speed, and can possibly cripple your streaming services. I’ve had Hulu (and others) refuse to start when using (part of eero+) because it can’t verify my country.

My $.02, don’t knee jerk, it’s unlikely changes will be seen immediately.

Run https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm and see if any DNS server is faster, or if there are better options than google. Others have similar uptime, but can have better privacy if you want.

Answers based on my own experiences with eero. I moved to eero from AirPort.

1. Should be able to cover everything an old AirPort can cover, but antennas and interference can have an effect. You may have to change placement.

2. Apple devices work fine these days and with one eero, it shouldn't matter.

3. eero is plenty fast enough to handle pretty much any internet connection, short of gigabit fiber (and you won't handle that wirelessly with anything).

4. You can use a third-party DNS with eero like OpenDNS Family Shield or OpenDNS Home. https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/ Pausing a set of devices (a profile) is part of the base eero functionality.

Bonus. You can keep your Time Capsule (turn WiFi off or join the eero network) and still use it for backup.

On Amazon, if you click on the listing for the single eero Pro 6, you should see an option for a 2-pack.

Link for reference: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KXCKC4Q/ref=twister_B08NQZ12WV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I think at $100 Eero Plus (Secure +) is still a solid deal. But I have been using Dashlane, NordVPN as alternatives to 1Password and for a bit. Need to find an alternate to Malwarebytes and will just switch to Eero secure when my current subscription of Eero Plus finishes in December.

https://www.intuitibits.com/products/wifi-explorer-pro/

I’ve had this running on my test network for several weeks already. The new drivers and firmware make a clear difference in how the network “feels” when you’re using it. DFS channels are used if they are cleaner so you’ll also have more airtime to yourself.

First off he’s an engineer from Eero so he would know proper orientation or the unit and how it should be setup.

You should use one these so the radiation pattern of the antennas is at least horizontal as they should be

WALI Wall Outlet Shelf Standard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C757SSY

Speaking of products, I can say these little adapters work well for those of you that have non-standard plugs and need to rotate your Beacons to the designed-for orientation. No association with Amazon or the product maker; just a customer. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Z7EDCC/

The white color of the swivel adapter is an excellent match with the Eero Beacon and and the offset from the wall of maybe the thickness of the Beacon itself looks quite bespoke.

I misstated that. They aren’t watching everything I’m doing per say but they are logging it.

• The number of bytes sent and received
• The length of time connected
• The IP address connected from and the (virtual) IP we assign
• The source port of the outgoing connection with start and end times
• We keep this information for at most sixteen (16) days, after which we permanently delete it.

PIA - PIA absolutely does not keep any logs, of any kind, period. We can unequivocally state that our company has not and still does not maintain metadata logs regarding when a subscriber accesses the VPN service, how long a subscriber's use was, and what IP address a subscriber originated from. Moreover, the encryption system does not allow us to view and thus log what IP addresses a subscriber is visiting or has visited.

I just feel better about using a VPN with no logs.

is fine, especially being bundled with eero plus. Never had any issues with it; I use it on both iOS and macOS. Auto-connect and transporter are nice features. Performance is good. It works great for personal use, I have no desire to seek a replacement.

I got it alone for the 1Password and , the other items were just a bonus. I already subscribed to 1Password for $5 a month, so adding another $4 was a no brainier. So far it's been really great.

Sadly not purely with Eero. The simplest way to achieve this (the least technically involved one) would be to use OpenDNS, which lets you sign up and configure filters, then you can set that as your DNS in Eero. That doesn’t let you filter on one network but not on the other, however.

The more technically involved option, which would probably enable you to filter on just one network, is to run your own DNS resolver locally. Pi-hole is super popular for this kind of thing, so you’ll find plenty of tutorials and documentation for it.

IIRC, you need GG45 or TERA connectors to be Class F compliant. You'll often see "Cat 7" cables use Cat 6A connectors if the data sheet gives the full details (example), as I don't think there's a Cat 7 spec. that is compatible with the vast majority of home use cases.

I whole heartedly agree with the subscription and I’ll say this about it - I was using Express VPN. Since I’m not a pirate and don’t care about torrenting, the included works perfect. I don’t care about Malwarebytes and I don’t care to change the password manager I’ve already been using for many years to One password. So the tossup with spending money to subscribe to eero+ just to get, the should be standard features of, making profiles to pause certain things came down to solely saving money on a VPN. If they decided to unpartner with . I will re-evaluate this whole experience.

I’ve been subscribed to what’s now called Secure+ since shortly after my first eero purchase, and I’ve stuck with it. The subscriptions to and 1Password alone pretty much make it worthwhile, and I occasionally take advantage of Malwarebytes as a scan-based backup to my normal antivirus software (Webroot).

I’m actually a little less impressed by Secure alone (as opposed to Secure+).

Historically, Secure has caused me some headaches when the service provider (Zscaler) had what appeared to be capacity issues shortly after eero was acquired by Amazon. They seem to have worked those issues out, but be aware that if Zscaler goes down and you have Secure enabled, your internet goes poof until they’re back.

The ad blocking has been touch and go for me — better lately, but it’s been known to block things that it shouldn’t, and there’s no way to whitelist specific sites.

The malware protection hasn’t caused me any issues, and I assume it’s doing me some small good — meaning, it’s blocking access to things from time to time, but chances are good those things wouldn’t actually impact me, either because of other protections or because the users on my network are (fortunately) pretty savvy and not likely to click on bad stuff. That said, a little extra protection never hurts. :)

I actually run ad/malware blocking on a local Pihole server but certain devices (especially Google devices) hardcode DNS and bypass Pihole, so Secure still provides some backup ad-blocking for devices like that.

tl;dr Yes, I think it’s probably worth it for a little piece of mind, but it’s not the best offering ever, it won’t block all ads (or as many as Pihole from what I’ve seen), and it may break some sites leaving you no option but to disable it or live without those sites.

While not an expert on fish-keeping or wifi I suspect the lack of lebensraum for the fish would be more harmful than their exposure to wifi signals. (Now if you have a 10,000 gallon natural tank with a few hundred Tetras and other small species and replicating their native environment I'm happy to withdraw the lebensraum comment)

Seriously though..I suspect the aquarium is more harmful to wifi than the other way 'round.

best,

BDA (former fish-keeper)

P.S. My bible back in the day - highly recommended: https://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Aquaria-Building-Living-Ecosystems/dp/0123706416

A refurb eero 2nd gen is about $120 right now on amazon and would work fine.

https://www.amazon.com/eero-Home-WiFi-System-Refurbished/dp/B07JF6SKRW/

You often see people on here selling used eeros for less.

A v1 would work too, but not the beacon, since it doesn't have ethernet ports. Super easy you just add it to the network and plug your tivo into ethernet. We do this for our security cam NVR in the attic.

My quick take...

Every home needs digital security if you have a bunch of connected devices — I like buying new gadgets so I have a bunch and our network-based security is really helpful.

I travel a lot and also use my laptop at coffee shops, so having VPN via is really helpful.

Even Macs get sick sometimes, so having Antivirus is important.

Lastly, everyone should have a password manager and 1Password is great. It works across platforms and I’ve had an account since the early days.

All of this is worth well more than $100 a year to me (and on the open market). Hence eero Plus. Any feedback on the feature set we’d love to hear. There’s a long road ahead and we’re working hard to make it better and better.

I agree that eero Plus could definitely benefit from some improvement. I think if they did incremental improvements to the service similar to the app or firmware. I hope they aren't storing up all the eero Plus changes for some big bang release.

I originally had my eero in bridged mode with a EdgeRouter X but I found that I really missed a lot of the manageability features from the eero app.

I'm sure eero Plus will improve, they've mentioned multiple times that there are improvements coming. They did add the 3 services you get for free in December (1Password, MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, and ). While these didn't actually improve the eero Plus service, it added a lot of value to owning the service and if you take advantage of these now included 3rd party applications you'll most likely increase your security posture.

I bought this and it works well (although I'm sure just about any switch would work well!).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N99BBC/

There's also an 8-port version if you need the extra ports. I didn't. ��

I’m a subscriber just for 1Password, MalwareBytes, and . With that being said, I spent $30 on a Pi Zero kit and installed Pi-Hole. I just set it as a custom DNS server on all my WiFi clients manually. I really like the reporting and configuration possibilities in the Pi-Hole and it continues to be improved.

Wow!

So with a yearly subscription I can get back some of the standard features most other routers have, with a paid version of what's basically AdGuard DNS filtering, and a discount on other paid apps that have perfectly functional free versions or open-source alternatives?

For only $100 a year? Awesome! For that price you could barely afford to get a New Router plus Mesh Node every year with those features included. Eero is so easy!

Although i liked my provided eero network cables i ended up using these which worked out wonderfully.

Cat 6 Ethernet Cable White 3 ft ( 6 Pack ) - Flat Internet Network Cable - Jadaol Cat6 Ethernet Patch Cable Short - Cat6 Computer Lan Cable With Snagless RJ45 Connectors - 3 feet White ( 6 Pack ) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IQWGRPU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_Re0fAb879WQVT

Dont remeber if i bought them at Amazon or monoprice. I found that eero' s ethernet cables were a bit stiff for some applications.

Agreed. Until Eero and/or Amazon specifies their plan, we need to raise concerns.

Amazon's ad business is one of their rising stars, and it stands to benefit the more they know about you.

I am hoping data harvesting would come in the form of "opt in". Could be cheaper Eero similar to Kindle Special Offers or discounted/free Eero Plus subscription.

Speaking of Eero Plus, I worry about its fate. Malwarebytes and 1Password might be safe (although they probably will be subject to renegotiation), but I am not sure VPN ( would be in the best interest to Amazon. It might also be rolled into umbrella home subscription that includes Ring and few others.

Having said that, I strongly doubt existing Eero units will be affected (in terms of data harvesting and/or advertisement).

We have a VPN partner () through eero Plus for securing your connection when you're on the go.

In terms of getting back to your home, we're exploring some options. Basically, 99% of our customers have very limited upload speeds and if you VPN'd back to your home, you're going to have a lousy experience.

What I did personally is I have an RPi that I can establish an SSH connection to in case I need it.

We had somebody recently have this issue and their devices ended up being connected to their cable modem that still had it's wifi on. Any chance that's the issue here?

The constant network security is great for keeping other connected devices safe. You also get 1Password, Malwarebytes, and VPN

I think it's a great deal. I had already been using a 1Password family account, and had been considering a VPN service. is great — really easy to use and, on iOS at least, can automatically connect when you connect to a new wi-fi network. I don't use the VPN service at home, though I can understand that being frustrating for somebody looking for a router-based solution.

I'm sure it's been submitted as a feature request, but there is a link in the sidebar to make the request yourself.

One thing I should note is that you'll need to contact 1Password support to switch your existing account over to the eero plus billing. It's really painless, but if you are on an existing plan with a bunch of time prepaid, you might consider waiting until it's just about to expire so as not to lose any of it.

All of that said, if you're really looking for privacy and anonymity, then this isn't the service you should be looking for to provide that.

The terms of service should certainly be sufficient to protect you from behavior-based profiling, but if you really want to keep what you're doing from anyone's eyes, then you want to be looking into solid VPN service providers and/or solutions like the Tor project.

eero Plus is providing a service, but not that service. :)

EDIT: Also, doesn't provide that service either. They provide some basic (and pretty good) protections when connecting to open / potentially un-encrypted WiFi networks, but they do not claim to provide complete privacy and anonymity like you can find with other solutions.

eeroPlus has a few nice options

• Malware protection by redirecting your DNS traffic and blocking known bad sites
• Adblocking (beta) blocks most ads from showing up on every device on your network
• Included Subscriptions
  • 1Password for Families (5 family members can get access to a free password manager)
  • MalwareBytes (3 computers can get MalwareBytes premium)
  • VPN service lets devices you install the software on automatically connect you to a VPN when you're not a trusted wifi network.
• Safe Filters (if you enable it) prevent certain types of websites from being viewed on your wifi.
• VIP Support: eero already has amazing support with low hold times but this apparently jumps you to the front of the line when you call.

I don't see any way to make configuration changes like that in the iOS app, but I can't speak to the other clients. With that said, I don't think is really the best option for avoiding Imperial entanglements...

I think all this stuff varies dramatically by the device. Few devices can actually access high speed wifi.

Side note, Apple's OS now has its own network test programmed in.

Go to the "Terminal" app. (Yes, you have it. But it won't be a visible App since Apple doesn't expect most users to ever use this interface. That is where you type in your commands.) Type in: networkquality You will get something like Speedtest and fast.com

Try pingplotter https://www.pingplotter.com/ to see if you can see where the latency is. You'll need to figure out the IP address of the game server.

I doubt it's the eeros causing this -- I get a pretty constant 35ms to the World of Warships servers.

Not necessarily true...you could manually set your DNS to the adguard servers:

176.103.130.130 176.103.130.131 for "Default" servers;

176.103.130.132 176.103.130.134 for "Family protection" servers.

You can use 2a00:5a60::ad1:0ff 2a00:5a60::ad2:0ff and 2a00:5a60::bad1:0ff 2a00:5a60::bad2:0ff addresses respectively for Internet Protocol Version 6 instead.

It’s how I have mine setup.

I've had moderate success with PiHole for both ad blocking and DNS. It does have a pretty nice interface and good logging.

Never had any issues besides occasionally blocking a site I actually wanted to go to. Very easy to whitelist/blacklist domains and I even caught iOS spamming the shit out of ntp.ios.org for some odd reason.

I noticed the location options in the iOS app kind of work. Choosing UK London allowed me to trip BBC Iplayer but it doesn’t seem to do anything for the Netflix app, on the surface it offers some reassurance since for me as far Private Rely is a bit pick and choose when it’s going to be activated.

It kinda depends on your internet speeds you pay for. If you aren’t locked into the Pro 6 and have speeds less than 500Mbps then I would consider the eero 6 with Extender. Great value, up-to-date stuff, and suits up to 3k sq ft. Should cover your home with some to spare.

So do I buy this Pro 6 and something else or should I order is it better to get the 3 pack router . Since I have Verizon Fios + tv. Don’t want to buy the wrong thing or over spend

I have tried WeMo and Meross smart plugs. Both gave me problems. These VOCOlinc plugs work perfectly and work with WPA3 enabled.

https://www.amazon.com/VOCOlinc-HomeKit-Assistant-Required-Smartbar/dp/B0915RS7XN

I've been using this TP link for a while now. Works just fine. They also have a 5 port version for $14.

Agreed, I have this one works like a champ.

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-5-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07S98YLHM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=DIFFU6TW5L6&dchild=1&keywords=netgear+switch+5+port+gigabit&qid=1624964244&sprefix=netgear+sw%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1-spons&psc=...

It can improve your protection. However, it would be helpful if you understood the basics of how that would happen.

What the Eero VPN does is allow you to install on your phone and laptop that you take with you, and if it's configured properly it will transfer risk of some information theft from random hotel and public WiFi operators to a single VPN provider (who I'm not implying is untrustworthy). That's all.

It may help you a little, but gaining some understanding of the more common ways financial data is stolen would probably help you more. Examples: good passwords, avoiding phishing attacks, updating your browser and safe browsing habits, etc.

I can't promise it will fix anything, but I would get the two pack of the previous models.

Centrally locate the pro that you have now and put "cupcakes" (previous models) on the edges. Stagger them horizontally and vertically. You can use a "cupcake" as your gateway and let the pro just handle the backbone of the network.

If you want to keep wifi6, then you could add a wifi6 extender or two instead of the "cupcakes".

For 2000 sq ft, the pro should be able to handle things, but I like to have more than less coverage. The eeros shouldn't be more than 50 feet apart. I have most of mine about 30 feet or so. They broadcast more horizontally than vertically, so keep that in mind.

Assuming that you have two floors, I would put the pro centrally on one floor and the two cupcake/extender nodes on the opposite ends of the other floor. (Kind of a wide V pattern or inverted V)

Are you past the time period you can return them?

Honestly, I just checked, I can get a beacon and eero gen2 for $250 on Amazon. Looks like you beat that by $5 and whatever tax would be... which I would take Amazon since they have a return period among being a trusted seller.

Might have to take a hit buddy and sell them for less.

I have 3 Gen 2 eero’s using PoE+. I got the adapters from eero. I purchased the following Gigabit Port with PoE from Amazon, and it’s worked perfectly with no issues.

TRENDnet 8-Port Gigabit GREENnet... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BJEQL72?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

No, it just gives you a free subscription to the service. You have to use an app on your phone/computer to actually use the vpn. supports windows android macOS and iOS.

It doesn’t enable anything on eero.

A little clarification here! VPN is a partner service offered as part of your eero Plus subscription, but their VPN software does not live anywhere in the eero infrastructure. Their VPN is included as an additional security option for your devices when you're on unsecured WiFi networks (e.g. at the airport, hotel, coffee shop, etc.), and requires the use of their app. At this time, eero does not offer a native, network-level VPN integration, but we have other router-level security features to keep your family safe, including content filtering, ad-blocking and malware blocking.

Please feel free to PM this account if you have any other questions or concerns, or reach out to our Support team directly at 877-659-2347 or . Thanks for being awesome!

Doesn’t work in my use case, unfortunately.

Edit to expand: I used Unblock-Us/Unlocator DNS services on my AppleTVs. My family also uses the AppleTVs as AirPlay displays for Macs, phones, iPads, etc, and I’ll occasionally run Steam Link to stream a game from my PC. None of those work if the AppleTV is on the eero guest network.

So when turning the VPN on (meaning actually activating it) via my Pixel phone, it can't talk to my Shield TV, even though the Shield TV is connected via Ethernet? So in order to use the VPN on my Shield TV, I would need to turn on the "VPN tunnel" via the Shield TV? Sorry, this is all new to me. I thought turned on a VPN for all connected devices on the network. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Welcome! Bought the same set up as you almost 1 1/2 years ago now and I’ve been super happy with my Eero. I am also coming from an AirPort Extreme with Airport Express range extender. First, customer service is fantastic. I had my eero for a little over 2 days and one of our cats chewed through the power cord. I called eero and was honest about what happened. They requested a picture of the offending kitten to put on their wall and sent me a new power cord free!

I’ve tried the eero plus service and really didn’t see the benefit personally. I already subscribe to a two different VPN’s that I have grown use to and I already had a 1Password account. I can’t say this definitively, but I did have non stop trouble with my VPN Unblock-Us that I use on my Apple TV for the sole purpose of getting around blackouts with NHL Gamecenter. When I turned that feature off it worked flawlessly again. I will admit I didn’t dig in to confirm it was the cause, but when I enabled I couldn’t watch in market games, and when I turned it off I could.

Enjoy your new Eero!

There have been a few other threads about this but the short recap is that is fine for providing basic privacy protection when you're connecting to untrusted / public / open Wi-Fi, but it's not the right solution if you're looking for robust privacy and anonymity.

The fact that it turns itself on automatically when you connect to an untrusted network is really nice. You don't have to think about it, it just happens.

If you want more robust privacy and anonymity (or better performance, especially at high bandwidths), then some of the other suggestions folks have already made are better options. I personally use .

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In conjunction with , I have a subscription to ProtonVPN. I definitely like how on , I can have an unlimited number of devices, and it works decently well. I always have it connected on my devices, since I’m 90% of the time on public WiFi. I use ProtonVPN when I’m having problems with (sometimes it’s just way too slow), or, when I need to use a no-logs and better privacy-focused VPN. Sadly. Proton limits you to like 5 devices at a time. So takes the bulk of my VPN use. I would highly recommend ProtonVPN if you’re looking for speed and better privacy focus (ie. no-logs policy, country hopping, etc), but if you’re just fine with basic VPN service, and works well, stick with that.

Sounds like a peering issue with your ISP.

Turning on the VPN eero offers basically transports that device from your houses' network (including internal), and acts as if its sitting in a datacenter where operates. So if that data center doesn't have a peering issue, you get it faster.

The only caveat to a VPN, is if your ISP has a peering issue to the datacenter is 'moving' your traffic to. Then, all traffic, not just some websites, will be slower.

Adding to this, eero is tri band while beacons are dual band. The pro package comes with 3 eeros and is what I recommend for 3000 sq ft. Beacons are easier to place (no wires to hide), if that matters to you.

The content filtering, in addition to pausing, allows you to filter out adult, illegal and criminal, or violent content. You can apply these filters to a group of devices you choose under family profiles.

I agree, eero plus is a great value for network wide protection, alone. It also comes with 1Password password manager, malwarebytes anti malware, and vpn services.

Here’s what they say they collect:

>The number of bytes sent and received

>The length of time connected

>The IP address connected from and the (virtual) IP we assign

>The source port of the outgoing connection with start and end times

So they’re not logging the URLs or domains you visit, only your IP, how long you were connected and when, the number of bytes sent and received, and the source port of the outgoing connection.

This would be useful if, for example, a server owner reported abuse from an IP address within the last 16 days. They could figure out which user did it and ban them.

But they do not keep a record of the sites you visit, which is what most are concerned with when taking about logging.

eero is a mesh wireless router system. You’ll still need Internet from an ISP and a modem.

eero provides a great home network experience by allowing you to add additional eero to the network to continue to increase the distance that your house gets wifi.

They do a fantastic job in the hardware, software, security, documentation, customer support etc.

I recommend this company to everyone.

eero Plus is a yearly subscription service they offer which also does things like blacklist / protect you from malicious websites, block-ads at a DNS level so they don’t load on your devices and give you access to 1Password password manager, MalwareBytes Antimalware software, and VPN service.

It’s really about security more than anything. If you want total privacy you need to pay for a service that doesn’t log and is based outside of the five eyes. mainly provides the protection on public WiFi.

I never used much in the way of deep router settings - I had Apple Airports before switching to eero (the Airports couldn’t get decent coverage once we moved from a condo to a house) so I can’t really weigh in on the security settings aspect of things. But....

I had 1Password on my iDevices and Mac, but merged it to the shared vault plan once I upgraded to eero plus because why not. No issues there; I always liked 1Password a lot before anyway and now password sharing with the wife is easier.

is where it really shines for me; there’s no secure WiFi at work, as everything is hardwired for security. I end up using public WiFi the entire workday and ’s auto-on is seamless. I had NordVPN before, but would often forget to turn it on and off, so the makes one less thing to remember.

Can’t weigh in on the malwarebytes; haven’t experimented with it yet.

tl;dr: haven’t found any issues and think eero plus is worthwhile

eero Plus protects your DNS requests from your ISP's prying eyes, by which I mean deep packet inspection. It does not protect the content of those sites from your ISP, but if you use HTTPS Everywhere or a similar browser extension, then that will help with that.

It does not provide (and is not intended to provide) anonymity or privacy against governments or, of course, the sites themselves.

provides a higher level of security against inspection on the wire, but similarly does not and is not intended to provide anonymity or protect against government examination.

I have bonded Moca and Eero Pros on ethernet backhaul throughout the house.

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I used Holland brand moca splitters of various types on every cable split in the house.

I used Motorola bonded Moca adapters as they were significantly cheaper than their Actiontec counterparts, used to be $170 for a 2 pack. Since they've been out Actiontec was forced to lower their pricing.

I have gigabit speeds everywhere.

Wow. I finally see someone with my same "issue". Though I was an outlier.

My config: In Mexico, ISP provides me with 100/100 Mbps symmetric fiber connection. And I pay for the 100Mbps. My speed tests always test at the advertised 100Mbps so I really don't have any grounds to complain about. https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/4054368015

But my Eero reports speeds 8X the 100Mbps I'm paying for! https://imgur.com/gallery/Og78Xje

Conclusion: I have no solution nor any idea of why this happens, but from my personal experience, this is another indication that this might be on your ISP like other replies have indicated.

Rather than rely on Eero's opaque blocking mechanism, I'd recommend looking into Pi Hole. It's quite easy to set up, and assuming Sidewalk traffic is funneled via DNS it will be an easy and effective barrier.

I am not using FIOS, but I am using AT&T Fiber; our config goes:

ONT -> EdgeRouter 4 -> eero pro -> switch -> my desk

jim@gentoo ~ $ speedtest

Speedtest by Ookla

Server: AT&T - San Antonio, TX (id = 5107) ISP: AT&T Internet Services Latency: 0.92 ms (0.10 ms jitter) Download: 913.45 Mbps (data used: 782.3 MB)
Upload: 932.35 Mbps (data used: 762.4 MB)
Packet Loss: Not available. Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/f1fb89e6-af4d-488d-8a3e-36636db4a344 jim@gentoo ~ $

Speeds bounce around as they do on residential connections, but I can pull full gigabit from my desk through the eero living between our router and our switch.

The only reason we have an EdgeRouter is that AT&T gateway was causing us issues even in passthrough mode. Personally, I wish AT&T would just let me provision the eero mac against the ONT and call it a day, but such is life.

So now things are even worse... Eero app says I'm getting 457 Mbps. Laptop directly connected to main eero is only getting 68 at fast.com, and only 30 according to speedtest.net

In either case, earlier it was getting nearly 200 (which perhaps still isn't great since it's directly connected). I just can't recall if I normally get closer to 400+ or if 200ish was normal. Regardless, something is wrong... :(

Also, just ran a few from speedtest.net using the eero servers in us-east-1/2 and us-west-1/2 and they're all within 10Mbps of each other, so fairly consistent. fast.com is showing about a 20Mbps delta.

Hello u/jimrvaughan,

There could be a few things going on here. I will list out some stuff to check below.

- Check the ethernet cord on the eero 6 Pro.

- What is the speed you're receiving while connected to the eero 6 Pro?

- Test with multiple speed test servers: fast.com / google speed test / speedtest.net

- Try connecting the eero 6 Pro at the other eero Pro's location that is connected to the switch.

- Is the switch unmanaged?

Hello u/skibikerunfish2020,

I would also suggest running at least speed tests from different speed test servers roughly 2 minutes apart from each other. Also, try downloading a large file and see what the speed gives. Below is a template you can use as well. If you can run the speed tests below and share the results we can help you identify what might be happening here. Are other devices also experiencing this slower speed?

Device Type:

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Wired / WirelessSpeed Test Server 1: speedtest.net

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Device Type:

Connection Type: Wired / Wireless

Speed Test Server 2: fast.com

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Device Type:

Connection Type: Wired / Wireless

Speed Test Server 3: google speed test

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Speed Test 4: Downloaded file

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Ok, apologies. I’m trying to recall from memory, not regurgitate detailed research. ESNI is part of TLS 1.3, which is automatically enabled by, at least, all Cloudflare sites (and that’s a lot) - https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/encrypted-sni/. It’s also supported by every major browser, when available - https://caniuse.com/#feat=tls1-3

https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

Run this. Look around for "top free dns servers" and take like 10 minutes to add a bunch of them. Some will already be in there, and only worry about the primaries.

Let the program run. I remove any redirecting as I don't need to be babysat, but I understand when people use them. I don't like dnssec, but again, if you do, great. Make sure your isp and any competition are reachable, and see what dns servers are fastest for you.

Independent tests showed that they had the best performance at blocking, and even with that success explained how even the independent test could have been skewed in their favor. They’re also a non-profit so they don’t have a commercial motive like the others and do not charge a fee to use their service. NextDNS charges a fee for their blocking services after 30,000 queries IIRC. Secure+ also has a fee attached. Cloudflare would be my second choice.

https://www.quad9.net/dns-blocking-effectiveness-recent-independent-tests/

I second the recommendation for Quad9. Fast and reliable, and they block known malware sites. https://www.quad9.net/faq/#How_does_Quad9_protect_me_from_malicious_domains

My experience was they block port 53 so regular DNS did not work however DNS over https did and they use DNS over TLS for their blocking solution. I ended up going with nextdns.io for more control and features in the end.

You need to do some packet captures. If there's another DHCP server on the network, the packet captures will be able to reveal that.

https://www.wireshark.org/

Wireshark is a free packet capture tool, and also the best one.

Direct link to the photo: https://www.notion.so/front/tools-and-craft/andy/andy-02.jpg

There's also an AirPort Extreme / Time Capsule peeking out from the bottom of the frame :P

IMO, 1Password and DDNS makes it worth it. is meh especially with iCloud Private Relay ( doesnt allow you to change locations so you can watch Netflix in other countries for example), and antivirus is a scam (just use built-in WIndows Defender if on Windows, and you don’t need it on Mac or Linux). With DDNS especially, now I can access my HOOBS box remotely.

Yeah something like ExpressVPN or Nord VPN or some other provider that consistently ranks near the top would make this was easier for more people I'd imagine.

Plus as you mention running services in the cloud isn't free and neither is development.

I have all my gear (Eero, MacMini running pfSense, etc)... on one of these in my closet.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-NotePal-Ultra-Slim-R9-NBC-XSLI-GP/dp/B005C31HC0

I installed and ran this. Confirmed Eero UPNP is working. 3 services are showing including L3 forwarding and WAN IP etc.

So definitely seems like a UI bug

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tjjang.upnptool

Ahh got it. All I can give feedback on, is that I have a cheap 8-port unmanaged switch, with my Hue hub connected to it and I’ve never had an issue. Hopefully you’ll be able to figure it out. Maybe try a different switch if you haven’t already.

What actual device are you using out there that you have labelled as 'Beacon'. Is it the actual, beloved, Beacon (https://www.amazon.com/eero-Advanced-Wireless-Nightlight-Networks/dp/B077CDGS9S/ or something else? I ask because that device doesn't have RJ45 connectivity which the diagram implies.

Regarding your issue, it sounds as if the device never lost link to the 24-port switch but the eero SW, correctly, recognized the path as down and went wireless. I wonder then if the app is keying off of the device's link.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PBP581J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

They run on usb and you can adjust the speed of them. They’re really quiet. I’ve been sticking them around my network gear for a while now.

I have one of these, Limited-time deal: TP-Link TL-SG108 | 8 Port Gigabit Unmanaged Ethernet Network Switch, Ethernet Splitter | Plug & Play | Fanless Metal Design | Shielded Ports | Traffic Optimization | Limited Lifetime Protection https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_T6BPNN1T92T7BGH63KBZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Been using it wired with eero pros for 18 months without a single glitch. Cheap and reliable.

> NordLynx is a technology we built around the WireGuard® VPN protocol.

(yay)

Unfortunately, while it looks like Firewalla works with NordVPN, it uses the slower OpenVPN protocol.

pfSense is not easy to configure, there is a tall yet rewarding learning curve.

I don't have personal experience with Firewalla, but unless you are after specific feature it has that eero lacks, I would personally steer clear. Seems like a waste of money if you are only going to plug it in and not configure anything. I don't personally use pfSense in front of my eeros either, the eeros do just as good a job with way less headaches to get it working.

"Edge device" referred to a device at the edge of your network (what is plugged into your modem?). Could be eero, Firewalla, or pfSense.

The US power adapter accepts current from 100-240 volts, so I think you merely need an adapter rather than a converter. Should only be a few dollars.

Something like this

Unidapt US to Australia Plug Adapter - AU/NZ Power Plug Adapter converter - USA American EU European to AU Australian New Zeeland Outlet Plug Adapters (2 piece) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077WJ3VN5

Hello u/wase471111,

The security from and Malwarebytes is installed on the device level not the router level. So, when comparing those services on a router level to other security on a router level as well doesn't work out correctly. That being said, if you have any questions regarding the security of the eero system I have provided a link to our FAQ below that should answer most of your questions.

Thank you, eero Support

I have this exact same setup. I use a Linksys WRT3200ACM with ExpressVPN firmware and 3 eero Pro 6’s. What tech support described is exactly the set up. Set up your eero, change it to bridge mode, turn off the wifi from your ExpressVPN router.

The beacons are essentially the same as the regular eeros (commonly referred to as "cupcakes"). I think they have the same radios and processors. The pros have a third radio, which can help with things like backhaul. (Eero to Eero communication and to the internet). It doesn't dedicate the radio, but it has more capacity for it. My guess is that it would help, yes.

It's hard to say exactly whether downgrading your internet would have an impact. It really shouldn't. It is most likely just the wifi. I only have 200/200 though and my family are pretty heavy users. The ISPs like to make you think that anything less than gig is barbaric, but it's simply not true. I stream movies/TV, work remotely, have kids on zoom all day, and download all sorts of digital media from steam and apple. For years, I had 100/100 and was fine. I finally went to 200/200 because it was the same price.

I personally have 2 pros centrally located in my house and a regular eero at my ISP connection in the basement and a regular eero in my attic. My house is four floors. I have the pros connected to ethernet, but I don't think it's necessary. The idea is that the pros are the core of where most of the devices are and the regular ones are on the edge. The only reason that I don't buy the beacons is that I prefer to have a ethernet port on the device in case I want it.

If you like the beacons, I would move the pro to the main floor and add a cupcake in he basement as your gateway. Or maybe get a two pack and put one in the basement with the pro on the main floor and one upstairs. Move a beacon to the office and the other beacon to an edge location somewhere else.

If you prefer, go ahead and get the pro three pack. I was just thinking out loud.

If you have the wifi 6 models, there may be some other options.

> For instance, I have my media area (TV, soundbar, Xbox, Apple TV, etc) by one of the coax lines that was activated. I would just use the goCoax to plug in the line, then Ethernet to an unmanaged gigabit switch and then Ethernet to all the devices?

Yup. I do this using MoCA to get a switch providing ethernet to the media center, and an Eero on the upstairs floor.

The one thing I don't see you mention is a Point of Entry Filter. Something like the above linked would help prevent signals from egressing from your home and messing up your Cable Companies signal. They really don't like when folks do that.

I did the setup you’re talking about, but with a four port switch. Cheap and easy. NETGEAR 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch (GS105NA) - Desktop, and ProSAFE Limited Lifetime Protection https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000BVYT3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_dbO9FbZHG05GE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I don’t know if if has an actual name. I think it’s just the “eero” (not pro). A lot of people call it the “cupcake”. I would get the cupcake unless you already have the wifi 6 stuff and want to get the eero 6. Either way, the cupcake would be fine. It is essentially a beacon that also has two ethernet ports. You can plug the playstation into either port. It will figure it out.

eero “cupcake”

All of the 6’s have two Ethernet ports as long as you don’t buy the package that comes with extenders. Get 3 of these

I think Amazon is still selling a 2-pack of Pros (wifi 6) for $319 (if you're in the US), at least for a couple more hours. I can't see you needing more than that for the space you're wanting to cover. One might do the trick, but I don't know your layout or obstructions that might exist.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KXCKC4Q/ref=twister_B08NQZ12WV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Well you're in luck, they do :-). However looks they'll be back in stock Nov 29th and deliver in early Dec if you can afford to wait for delivery then. $80 off right now, or $319 for a two-pack of Pros 6 at Amazon. Not sure if these prices will last through Friday, but availability may be pushed out if you wait too long to buy, since I am sure there's a lot of demand. I think these are what the Black Friday prices will be. All the new Eeros appear to be on sale right now.

Glad to help and good luck whichever route you choose to go! See link below for the two-pack of 6 Pros:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KXCKC4Q/ref=twister_B08NQZ12WV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I have this NETGEAR 16-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch that is wired to all my room's Ethernet ports. Each room has two Ethernet ports. in two of the rooms, I also have a four and an 8 port switch in there. It all works perfectly with my eero pro three pack.

Gig Cable Model --> gateway eero pro --> 16-port switch --> rooms and other pros